#human/vulcan hybrid

[m0rbs]

God i think about spock and saavik every minute of every day. Mr spock you and your kid drive me insane

[ai-art-ocs]

OC- Lyra/T’Lyra

As a human: she’s raised in a mixed community on earth where she is influenced by many earth and alien cultures that have settled in the big city she grew up in. She attended inner city public schools for her entire education which gave her a quick eye for social cues and how to avoid a fight and tread carefully. Despite not going to the most prestigious schools as a child, the education system overall in the world has improved in the 2300s allowing for personalized courses and access to higher learning methods with better ease. It many not be on the same level as the Vulcan learning pods, but Lyra advances through courses and finds her way through math and science much faster than her peers, somewhat of a prodigy. She begins computer science and engineering courses as soon as they are available to her and finds her niche in theoretical transwarp physics as a junior in high school. She begins to research and learn all she can about the subject and explore all she can. Eventually, this curiosity leads to questions about the impact of warp on life and her interests turn back to the blue sciences rather than the reds of engineering. By the time she enters Starfleet to conduct further research (because every one of the best papers she’s read has come either from the VSA or a tenured Starfleet officer) she is ready to do whatever it takes to find the answers to all her burning questions about space travel. How to improve it, how it changes humanity, what it means to be human, what it means to be alien, what it means to be from somewhere at all. She wants to expand the known universe and her mind - to confront the stars and herself among them as she ventures into the great unknown.

As a Vulcan/Human hybrid: she’s raised on Vulcan until it is destroyed when she is six. She remembers the day clearly with her eidetic memory. Her family was together in a park in ShiKahr when the attack started and when the evacuation began, they were able to board a shuttle and get off planet safely. They became some of the only surviving Vulcans. Post-destruction of Vulcan, T’Lyra and her family moved to earth, her father’s home world (her mother being her Vulcan parent). Despite growing up mostly on earth, her family lives nearby the Vulcan embassy and her mother is very devoted to retaining her Vulcan roots, especially in light of the destruction of Vulcan. T’Lyra does her best to emulate her mother in every way, including being as Vulcan as she can be, despite her red blood and how tempting it is to smile or blush or tuck her hair behind her ear and respond to the social cues of the human boys around her as she ages. Her mother has less difficulty conceiving a human child than Amanda did conceiving a Vulcan child, and T’Lyra has a younger brother, V’Luk who was born after the family arrived on earth. Her brother is much more human in his tendencies than she is, though she does all she can to encourage him to act in the Vulcan way. They are both more biologically human than Vulcan, somewhere around 60% Vulcan in large part due to their blood being human rather than the green of a Vulcan, though their hearts are still located where they would be on a Vulcan. It seems that though there are now more Vulcan/human hybrids, the data does not help cross-case. Even the siblings are dissimilar to each other in their biology in some ways that make their health distinctive. As T’Lyra gets older, she goes to school with the other Vulcan children who stay on earth at the embassy. She spends her life looking up to Commander Spock who was part of the command team to save the Vulcan high council and Earth from its destruction and who is notably one of the only other Vulcan/human hybrids. Inspired by his efforts in Starfleet, she makes strides to follow his path and join Starfleet someday.

Process/Results:

I started initially just wanting to do a Starfleet officer, hence Lyra. Then I decided to see how the ai could handle a Vulcan with the ears and all. It did not do well with prompts to copy Spock’s facial pattern or Vulcan ears. It struggled with the idea of Vulcan eyebrows and I gave up. I eventually had to use a prompt with elf ears instead, which is why the shape is off - not quite to my liking but close enough when given context. I realized halfway through that Vulcans have green blood and Lyra had a red blush so I tried some prompts to see if I could get a green tinge to the skin instead and…. AI was super confused and only did like one slightly correct generation of the prompt. AI still struggles with fantastical ideas. It can do normal skin tones, but not odd ones. Maybe it doesn’t have any samples of that? Makes sense if it doesn’t have access to that kind of imaginative art to sample.

[quecksilvereyes]

the appeal of dr mccoy is that hes fundamentally a very good person who cares very much about the people around him and is incredibly invested in their wellbeing but he acts like everything is a chore and an imposition and he will bitch about everything he does for his loved ones and his job until he dies thank you for coming to my ted talk

[myblankyearmission]

I’m at the final episode of enterprise and I am not okay. First they kill off an adorable baby and now Trip is dead and I am flipping out. I hate this so much.

[a-most-beloved-fool]

makes me a little sad when star trek ignores IDIC. like. vulcans are logical. that is true. But 'logical', for vulcans, does not amount to 'without compassion,' and it definitely doesn't amount to 'racial superiority.' Belief in 'infinite diversity in infinite combinations' should NOT result in the weird racist/speciest stuff we're getting in some of the newer treks. It does make sense that some vulcans are discriminatory. They're still flawed. But that should not be common or expected, like it seems to be in SNW. If it is, then it's a race of hypocrites, which. doesn't seem very true to Star Trek's message.

I think TOS Spock does a pretty good job of embodying this. Not always, it was the 60s, after all, but mostly. He was often trying to find non-violent routes, and get by without killing - even if they were in danger or had already been attacked. (See: the mugato, and the horta (until Kirk was the one in danger, lmao. t'hy'la > IDIC), the Gorn ship). Kirk, in his eulogy, calls him the most human soul he's ever known, and I've always read that as Kirk calling out Spock's overwhelming compassion.

It's just so much more interesting when Vulcans get to be radically compassionate. I want them to believe that everything and everyone has value. I want them to respect all ways of being. I want them to find ways for even very non-humanoid aliens to exist unfettered in society. I want them to see hybrids and think that it's amazing. Also, like, disability rep. I want Vulcans to have The Most Accessible Planet and available resources because they want everyone to feel accepted and valued. It makes for better characters and more interesting stories.

[spocks-husband]

Just thinking about the fact that Spock didn't just not fit into his culture-- he was never going to.

At the time of his birth, he was literally the first Vulcan/Human hybrid ever conceived. There was not a single other being in the entire fucking universe who was anything like him. Not one; and especially not one on Vulcan.

He literally experienced a kind of loneliness and sadness and unexplainable agony and no one else could even possibly begin to comprehend.

Jim was the first person who he ever understood as being truly safe.

[reginaldqueribundus]

the Sarek family is hilarious to me because you have so much drama in one place. there have got to be at least 3 like, holo-documentaries or whatever about them. how could you not?

you have Sarek, the patriarch: one of the UFP's top diplomats, who knocks up a Vulcan princess then goes “hrm I am ambassador to Earth therefore I should marry a human” and he does, upsetting all sorts of the worst kinds of people on his home planet and causing racist hate groups to try to blow him and his family up multiple times, and seems honestly more put out by his son joining Starfleet than his other son becoming Vulcan Moriarty

Amanda, the matriarch: an accomplished educator and quite possibly the only well-adjusted member of the family, but when her son Spock shows up on her doorstep after growing a beard, having a mental breakdown and apparently murdering several medical staff she still shrugs and hides him in the family mausoleum

Sybok: Amanda's stepson from the aforementioned princess fling, who becomes an antiestablishment criminal mastermind with an edgelord fake name, hooks up with a hot space pirate, finds religion, starts a cult, takes an entire colonial government hostage sparking a diplomatic incident involving three galactic superpowers, and hijacks a Starfleet ship to the galactic core to find the Vulcan Garden of Eden, where he dies fighting god in hand-to-hand combat

Michael, a traumatized human girl Sarek brings home from a work trip, who joins Starfleet, becomes their first-ever mutineer, goes to prison, saves the Federation from a war most people think is her fault and gets “killed” in a highly classified, very suspicious incident involving an experimental starship and a series of red lights that appeared across the galaxy like a divine omen (oh, and returns 900 years later to solve the dilithium crisis, kill the head of the Emerald Chain and save two entire star systems including her siblings' homeworld)

and last but not least Sarek & Amanda's one-of-a-kind hybrid baby. Spock, who gets accepted into the Vulcan Science Academy, tells them to go fuck themselves when they're racist about it, runs off to Starfleet instead, gets so famous his arranged marriage falls apart resulting in him publicly strangling his own captain to death except not really, steals the Federation flagship twice, invents time travel, saves the entire planet Earth, dies and comes back to life, goes into his dad's line of work and achieves peace with the freaking Klingons as his opening act, then after a long successful career suddenly dips to go do extremely dangerous underground activism on one of the most paranoid authoritarian worlds in the galaxy to unify the Romulans & Vulcans who've hated each other for over a thousand years — and he isn't around to see it but it eventually works. then he fucks off with the VSA's high-speed prototype ship full of the most dangerous substance known to science and gets sucked into a black hole of his own creation, never to be seen again. and this is just the stuff that's public knowledge!

then you dig into the novels where Sarek's ancestor basically makes out with Zefram Cochrane 5 seconds after meeting him and Amanda tells the press her husband has a huge cock

I love them

[trekkingthroughthestargate]

Spock has spent his entire life being an outside - different from everybody around him. His Vulcan-human hybrid nature means that while physically he appears Vulcan, he's completely different right down to his blood pressure.

And that has been a thorn in his side his entire life.

But then he meets McCoy, and their slightly-antagonistic friendship blossoms and grows. And suddenly, he's delighted in being different. With McCoy, he gets to be different in a way that's engaging, that's delightful, and that allows him to embrace the parts of himself that he desires the most.

"And as for my anatomy being different from yours, I am delighted." (The Naked Time) "The fact that my internal arrangement differs from yours pleases me no end" (Mudd's Women)

Like before McCoy, did he ever have a reason to think that?

His antagonistic relationship with McCoy is just as important as his accepting relationship with Kirk. Kirk accepts him for what he is. McCoy allows him to be what he wants to be, and delights in their differences as much as he does.

If Kirk and Spock are the embodiment of two different people coming together and finding commonalities, Spock and McCoy are the embodiment of Surak's words "I am pleased to see that we have differences. May we together become greater than the sum of both of us."

[odekiisu]

Vulcan Eyebrow Pointiness is governed by gene(s) in an imprinted region of the genome.

Imprinted genes are expressed differently depending on which parent they're inherited from; either the maternal or paternal copy of the gene is suppressed. On Earth, this can be seen in some human genetic disorders such as Prader-Willi/Angelmann syndrome (both caused by a large deletion on chromosome 15; which one presents is dependent on which parent the mutation is inherited from).

Another case where genomic imprinting causes noticeable differences in phenotype are lion/tiger hybrids. They have the same complement of genes, being 50% lion and 50% tiger, but ligers (male lion/female tiger) are absolutely heckin massive, being larger than both parent species and the largest feline in the world, and are lighter in base colour (more the colour of a lion than a tiger).

Fig. 1: Liger

Tigons (male tiger/female lion) on the other hand are about the size of a tiger and more tigery orange in colouration. This is because of growth-suppressing genes that are active when inherited from a female lion, but not when inherited from a male one, and corresponding growth-promoting genes that are only active when inherited from a male. Female tigers do not have the required growth-suppressing genes to counteract the latter, so ligers get huge, but tigons don't.

Fig. 2: Tigon. Note that both are stripey.

In the case of Vulcans, the maternal copy of at least one gene that governs eyebrow pointiness is suppressed, whereas the paternal one is active. Behold:

Fig. 3: Spock, half-Vulcan with a Vulcan father, has pointy ears and pointy eyebrows (obvious usage of eyebrow liner notwithstanding).

Fig. 4: Lorian, half-Vulcan with a Vulcan mother, still has pointy ears but round eyebrows.

As you can see, the eyebrow pointiness phenotype differs depending on which parent it is inherited from, whereas the ear pointiness phenotype appears to be dominant, much like stripeyness.

tl;dr: Spock is a liger and Lorian is a tigon.

[charlottespeaks]

thinking about Spock and the loneliness & sadness that accompanies being the first & only known Vulcan-Human hybrid in the universe…and then along comes Kirk whose main character traits are his empathy, his compassion, & his need to protect everyone—especially Spock.

also thinking about Kirk and his singled-minded focus on his career that inhibits his ability to form deep relationships. he can’t (won’t) love anyone more than his ship…and then along comes Spock who Jim ultimately loves more than anything….soulmate behavior, honestly.

[i-actually-post-stuff]

One more quick thing that I just whipped up for @sponeszine's Spones day.

A baby.

This is Sem'rik.

Various thoughts in no particular order:

·From my rarely shared TOS AU where Spones are married in the first year of the 5-year mission, and pregnant in the 5th.

·The pregnancy is accidental. With the consistency of sterility in hybrid species, they were caught completely by surprise when Spock woke up with certainty that he was pregnant.

·His curly hair is from Spock, who straightens his. It turns wavy as he gets older.

·McCoy never lets him out of his sight. Spock and him quarrel over the impact of how often he holds the baby.

·His ears stay huge. He might be mostly human but it doesn't make him look any less Vulcan.

·He gets more and more freckles as he gets older.

·I've never drawn a baby before.

[favvn]

Spock + Duty

It's about how he is torn apart. Half Vulcan, half human. One parent expects a Vulcan, and the other expects a human. Of course, Spock will throw himself into his work. Of course, he will claim Starfleet, the Enterprise, and Captain Kirk as his only obligations. They're the only things he could choose for himself, without expectations attached. His life is a self-made purgatory because he has chosen a third path away from his parents and away from Vulcan, but his parents can't understand it or choose not to understand it. (Technically, they do. Amanda herself says Spock is at home nowhere except Starfleet. Sarek understands that Spock ought to be respected simply for being Spock, not as an ambassador's son or as the first Vulcan-human hybrid. But they fail to tell this to Spock, so Spock is still caught between the life he has made to get away from the expectations his parents still carry.)

[bibones]

Here, have some unedited, stream-of-consciousness ideas about transmasc Triumvirate for Pride Month 🏳️‍⚧️

McCoy came out the youngest - when he was around 7 or 8, and started HRT young enough that top surgery wasn't necessary for him, any chest growth was negligible. Apart from keeping up with his hormonal implants, being trans hasn't much affected him; his family are modern, 23rd Century people goddamnit, they ain't gonna throw a fuss at their tween naming himself Leonard if that's what makes him happy.

He never bothered with bottom surgery, and he donated his eggs when he and Jocelyn went through IVF. Jocelyn carried Joanna, but McCoy wouldn't have been fully opposed to being a seahorse dad if it was more convenient for them at the time - needless to say, he's still relieved when it's not something he needed to go through to be a father.

All the same, he is very reticent of sharing the fact that he's transgender. It don't matter one bit to nobody but those who share his bed, thank you very much.

Kirk came out as a teenager, sometime around the age of 16. Overcoming the trauma of Kodos and Tarsus IV was something he had to make some sort of peace with first before he realised the discomfort he felt in his body and the perception of himself by other people wasn't any sort of lingering dysmorphia related to childhood food insecurity. He has what some would consider the stereotypical tomboy-to-butch-to-FtM pipeline. He's always been charming with the ladies, and gaining confidence in his identity as a trans man just made him all the more magnetic.

He had top surgery prior to joining Starfleet, and bottom surgery prior to his first posting on a starship.

He's more open and causal about his transition than McCoy is; if other people happen to bring it up, he'll proudly talk your ear off about his gender journey, but he wouldn't disclose at the drop of a hat, either.

Spock came out the latest of the trio. He was an adult, he was already in Starfleet Academy, and it took him a few years after realising his gender identity to start any sort of medical transition. He's on HRT, but hasn't had top surgery or bottom surgery.

Being transgender isn't stigmatised on Vulcan, however Spock was more reluctant to explore his experience with gender incongruity than he would otherwise have been due to being half-Vulcan - either because of internalised shame at deviating from the norm and having these feelings, or as a result of prior medical trauma from being closely studied and monitored as the first human-Vulcan hybrid.

McCoy gives him the what-for the first time he realised Spock binds unsafely during away missions ("And no, sir, it is not 'logical' to purposefully put yourself at risk because you happen to have more durable bones than a human! You still have lungs that gotta breathe, man!")

He is, however unexpected, the most candid of his status as a transgender man.

[abardnamedreginald]

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[wowevenmoreloveonearth]

So if Spock is half Vulcan and half human then that means Vulcan physiology can’t be that different to humans as they can reproduce but are they different species and if so does that make Spock a hybrid and thus infertile? Or do alien genes bypass that so it doesn’t matter or are Vulcans and humans the same species but separated by space and culture?

I don’t know if this is old fandom discussion and I’m just new in town and unaware but I was wondering

So the question is:

[agent-troi]

the terra prime guy was really fucking stupid for a lot of reasons but especially bc he seriously believed with his whole chest that if he showed everyone an adorable little vulcan-human hybrid baby, literally the cutest baby anyone has ever seen, that everyone would think “ugh, what a horrible disgusting abomination that is”