#judging functions

[notanotherinfjblog]

Texting habits per judging function

No one asked, but here are some observations I've made in my personal life.

*Note that this probably differs by age, gender, and culture (for instance, I have been told by several Americans that I use an insane amount of emojis, whereas it's not considered weird at all here in Germany).

FJ:

Generally very good at texting, will respond to absolutely every point you make. If you send them a long voice message, they can be found taking notes while listening so that they will not forget to answer any point you made.

Have a very hard time leaving someone on read and if they do, either something happened and they forgot, or they simply don't like you very much. If they open the message, they answer. If they don't have time to answer you right now, they simply will not open the message yet.

If the text conversation is done (i.e. you wrote something like "bye, see you tomorrow!" that does not require another response), they will still at the very least send you an emoji back for no reason other than letting you know that "Yes! I read your message! I'm not ignoring you! I love you!" (Literally every FJ I have ever known does this. Every single one, including myself.)

They will adapt to your style of texting. If you are the kind of person that likes to send a bunch of heart emojis to friends and the FJ friend is not, they will still pepper in a heart here and there. If you generally don't use emojis, they will use them only occasionally. If you reply in wallpaper long messages, so will they. If you break up your messages into several texts one after the other, so will they.

FPs:

Also generally quite good at texting and can actually appear a lot warmer in writing than in person (there have been several instances where I received really lovely messages from FPs who I used to think hated my guts whenever we met in person).

Prepare for emojis. Seriously.

You can have infinitely long text conversations with them. If you are willing to commit, the conversation between the two of you will never end. With NFPs, the conversations usually end up spiralling into nonsense scenarios, while SFPs keep telling you about their day and keep answering you about your day every day.

TPs:

(my texting experience with TPs is unfortunately very limited, so feel free to fill in my blanks)

Fe is very noticeable in the extroverts, i.e. they tend to go the FJ route described above, but in a more nonchalant and more relaxed way. Like with FJs, the focus of the conversation is on you and their dynamic with you.

The introverts (i.e. my dad, i.e. my only point of reference) are bad at texting and prefer to call, so almost all text conversations go something like this: TP: "Hi, I tried to call you, but you didn't pick up. I hope everything is alright with you?" You: "Yes, sorry. Everything's good here, how about you, everything okay?" --- end of conversation ---

TJs:

Generally bad at texting. Also don't really like it and see no point in it, so they usually prefer calling or talking in person.

Will appear colder in writing than in person, especially the STJs. Their answers will be straight to the point. No beating around the bush and no needless extension of a conversation in form of jokes/questions/anecdotes for a bonding experience. If they want to tell you something, they will tell you in person.

Have absolutely zero problem leaving people on read and usually don't mean anything by it.

STJs rarely use emojis, NTJs do but not excessively

If their answer requires them to type anything more than two sentences, they will send you a voice message instead. (Literally every single TJ I know does this, except my INTJ brother who is a complete maniac and calls instead.)

[wickedsmille]

Jason: You've heard of elf on a shelf, now I give you-

Jason with a dramatic arm flourish to Tim in the batchair: Tim Drake still awake!

[girderednerve]

the theory of law that says it matters a lot what the particular text of a given policy says, what loopholes the specific language might leave, &c., is best described as "LSAT prep" or perhaps "wishful thinking." the actual practice of the law is not a rhetorical exercise, it is a power negotiation; these executive orders are written to signal clear intention to judges & create chilling effects for people who are bound by the law but not empowered to interpret it. the viciously transmisogynist executive order signed yesterday says "at conception" because it's a popular phrase among people who oppose abortion, & the violent repression directed at trans women is connected directly to all other attempts to subjugate women as a class, not least by suspending safe, legal access to reproductive care

[lightningthunderstorm]

No Starscream you and your “combat” lackeys cannot win against an overworked single father of 5 who runs on nothing but espresso and sheer will along with a group of construction workers live off minimal wages while busting their afts off on the road 16hrs a day

[markantonys]

i'll be interested to see if this holds true for WOT s3 since the s1 finale had so many extenuating circumstances and can't really be included in the comparison, but based off of the s2 finale, i believe that season finales tend to bear the brunt of "It's Different From The Books!" ire because they are the culmination of all the smaller changes made throughout the season.

this turned into a bigger analysis post than i expected lmao par for the course with my blog! read on for exploration of how the 2x08 conclusion of each season-long arc is the the most emotionally satisfying conclusion and/or the most thematically appropriate conclusion possible based on the show's particular version of the story, plus a bonus tangent on the nature of adaptation.

for a finale episode, the writers' prime concern 100% has to be "wrapping up all the season's arcs in a way that feels satisfying with everything that's happened in the first 7 episodes, using the book version of the finale event as the framework" rather than "recreating the book version of the finale event exactly as it is with all the same scenes and themes". the nature of storytelling inherently means that every single person who tells the same story will focus on different themes (just think of how many versions of the hades & persephone story there are), and a good adaptation knows that being internally consistent with its own Emphasized Themes is more important than copying-and-pasting scenes from the source material without making any changes to account for the specific way this adaptation is telling the story.

(but a lot of people can't even get past this first point because they don't understand that this is how adaptations - how storytelling in general - work. like, person B literally cannot tell the exact same story that person A told without putting their own spin on it. it's not possible! unless they're simply reading out the exact words that person A wrote, which can't be done when putting 14 massive books into maximum 64 hours of tv. so many readers like to meet this point with "but why does the books' version of the story need to be changed at all?" which is just a non-starter because a) medium differences require a ton of changes, and b) even if no changes were *required*, they would happen anyway because that is human nature when it comes to storytelling. when it comes to story-listening too! ask a hundred different book fans what WOT is about and you'll get a hundred different answers. rafe & co can't possibly make an adaptation that captures every single reader's idea of What WOT Is About, and nobody in the world could ever re-tell the story of WOT in the exact same way that RJ told it, not even the most die-hard book fan; all rafe & co can do is focus on making sure the show honors the core of the books' story while also telling a good story in its own right, independent of the source material.)

i was a classics major, okay? it gets to me! anyway, corralling myself back on topic.

for 2x08, it's very telling just how far Minority Reader Opinion deviates from the general audience opinion. general audiences fucking LOVED this episode (it's the highest-rated on imdb out of the entire show, currently at a 9.0; most episodes are in the 7-8 range), but a bunch of readers call it disappointing and one of the worst episodes of the show. if it was actually a poor quality episode of television, the general audience ratings would reflect that too (as they do for 1x08, currently at a 6.4 (i personally think 1x08 gets way more hate than is deserved and i thoroughly enjoy that episode, but i accept that's just me)), but they don't.

so what does that mean? to me, it means that 2x08 is objectively a very good episode of television which general audiences found satisfying, but which some readers disliked because it prioritized the emotional & thematic needs of its own version of the story over the exact nature of the falme events in the source material. which is exactly what a good adaptation should do! if you forget the books and just look at the show (which the vast majority of viewers are doing), then every resolution that happens in 2x08 is the most satisfying resolution possible and/or the only resolution that was thematically permitted for that particular season storyline.

egwene: her season arc was about learning to stand on her own two feet and not cling onto her mentor figures or compare herself unfavorably to others. thus, her freeing herself from the a'dam is the most satisfying possible conclusion to her season arc. nynaeve and elayne freeing her in the books is nice, but in the show version, thematically, it would've undercut egwene's Overcoming Impostor Syndrome arc to go "yeah actually it's true that she's not good enough on her own and when it comes down to it she does always need nynaeve to help her out". that version worked in TGH where she didn't have an Overcming Impostor Syndrome arc, but it wouldn't have worked in the show where she did. (but, yes, egwene learning in 2x08 that she doesn't have to rely on others is a double-edged sword, which nicely sets up her later-series struggles with trying to shoulder too much herself and not letting even her friends or partner help her.)

rand: his season arc was about learning to lean on others and not isolate himself or try to protect his friends by withholding his burdens from them. thus, him failing to defeat ishamael until all his friends come to lend aid in various ways is the most satisfying possible conclusion to his season arc. rand defeating ishy singlehandedly in the books is nice, but in the show version, thematically, it would've undercut his Learning That Strength Is In Numbers arc to go "yeah actually it's true that rand is capable of winning his biggest battles all by himself and thus it's no problem for him to push his friends away". given the themes that s2 emphasized for rand, the only appropriate finale outcomes were either success with his friends' help or total failure on his own, and they chose the former. (that being said, rand pushing his friends away is a continuous issue for him throughout the series, so i doubt he's perfectly learned his lesson after 2x08; we shall see!)

interesting to note that rand and egwene have inverse arcs in a way (foils!) and that some elements of their book falme climaxes were swapped, and that the way the show has done it subverts the expected gender roles. typically, men are expected to be Lone Wolves and women to be Team Players, and the WOT books absolutely play into these stereotypes throughout the series (sometimes intentionally as social commentary, sometimes unconsciously as an accepted truth of the world), but 2x08 and s2 more broadly did the opposite with our yin-and-yang co-protagonists. it's egwene who has the arc about learning to be a Lone Wolf and rand who has the arc about learning to be a Team Player. and imo these subconscious gender role expectations are a part of why some readers (esp reddit) got SO heated about "how come egwene can succeed by herself but rand can't", because it feels Wrong to them and Not How Things Are Supposed To Work (they've never questioned why rand can succeed by himself but egwene needs her friends' help in TGH, or all the other times in the books when men succeed by themselves and women succeed by relying on each other). but it's a totally apples-to-oranges comparison because egwene and rand had totally different season arcs and focal themes (but many paralleling & foiling moments within that), and so they each get a conclusion tailor-made to their individual stories.

mat: his season arc was about realizing he's a good, worthy person, finding the inner strength to overcome his worst impulses and temptations, and coming through for his friends after leaving them at the waygate. thus, him getting his Big Damn Hero moment with the horn of valere, getting validation that he is literally a hero, and overall spending the episode doing all he can to support his friends is the most satisfying possible conclusion to his season arc. (but stabbing his bff just as he was flying on a confidence high and trying to save the day was a downer note to end on, so we've complicated his relationship with heroism and set up some more internal issues for him to wrestle with next season.)

perrin: his season arc was about learning to acknowledge his inner wolf but also coming to regard it with fear and to believe that wolf & human sides can't coexist and he must Choose One (.......suddenly being struck by the bisexuality metaphor of it all. nice!) thus, him giving into violence to murder a human to avenge a wolf is.....well, it's pretty upsetting for him and serves to reinforce his growing belief that his two sides can't coexist, but thematically, it's fascinating and sets him up for some really great internal (and external) conflicts in s3. he's just gotten what he thinks is pretty strong evidence to corroborate ishy's claim that embracing his wolf side means embracing the shadow, so he's set up for a season 3 of deep-diving into his relationship with violence and his inner wolf. it's also a neat parallel with 1x08: there perrin's avoidance of violence allowed fain to escape, whereas here his embracing of violence has traumatized him (again), so our poor guy is really feeling conflicted in the pacificism-or-violence question because both sides seem wrong to him right now. huh, i guess perrin's full-series arc is about finding a middle ground rather than one extreme (pacifism/tuatha'an/human) or the other (violence/aiel/wolf). i feel like i've just had an epiphany lmao this is why i love the show! it tells the same story as the books, but tells it in a different way that makes me think about it differently and gain new insights!

nynaeve: her season arc was about learning that she, on her own, as she is today, is not enough to protect her loved ones. this is a tough pill for both her and the audience to swallow! but it's needed for her character, and we see it in the books too. nynaeve has an incredible amount of power, but she's terrified of having that much power and wants to pretend it doesn't exist. she's resistant to change, she's used to being in charge, and she's very "my way or the highway". these are all things she needs to grow out of (or moderate, at least) in order to be able to step up and do her part for tarmon gai'don. she has to learn how to embrace her power instead of being afraid of it or being too stubborn to let other people guide her and teach her, so s2 shows her what happens if she doesn't, first hypothetically in the accepted test (everyone she loves dies because she's blocked and refused channeling training) and then for real in falme (she couldn't help elayne fully or rand at all because of her block). so her 2x08 conclusion being Total Failure is not emotionally satisfying, no, but it's thematically exactly what she needed and will goad her into facing her block head-on next season. thematically, like rand, nynaeve only had 2 options for falme: break her block and succeed, or retain her block and fail, and it was too soon for the former (we gotta let her cook a while longer, plus the story will become too easy if nynaeve, or rand, reaches supernova capability too soon), so it had to be the latter. if the show had gone with a third option of her succeeding without breaking her block, then that would've taught her and the audience that it's fine to leave the block in place and she doesn't need to challenge herself to grow as a person, because when it TRULY matters she can always get around the block.

other characters get appropriate resolutions too! moiraine and lan get to work together to succeed after being at odds and failing on their own all season (rand foils!). elayne gets validation that she is an essential and trusted part of the friend group after feeling like somewhat of an outsider earlier in the season. ishamael getting vanquished and lanfear betraying him only to be betrayed by him in turn is exactly where their mutual mistrust was leading them (and it shows us why it's so important that Team Light be able to work as a team rather than as self-interested individual operators; the contrast between ishy & lanfear looking at the seals together while plotting to betray each other vs. rand standing on the tower with all his friends behind him makes me cry your honor. imagine hating that ishy's defeat was a team effort, could not be me!)

(it's also worth noting that the characters who had the least individual success/victory in 2x08 (nynaeve, rand, perrin) are the ones who will have the biggest individual storylines in s3 (tanchico & moggy, waste arc, two rivers arc), whereas the characters who had the most individual success/victory (egwene, mat, moiraine, lan) are the ones who will be taking a bit more of a backseat (of course they all have their own stuff to do, but none of them is *the* lead character of their TSR/s3 traveling group). this is intentional!)

so there you have it. 2x08 is adored by the general audience, and it's because of this: it gives us some damn satisfying conclusions to all the season arcs (and some exciting and visually stunning battle sequences to boot), and all the viewers who AREN'T beleaguered by "But The Books!", which is most of them, recognize that for the good storytelling it is. i for one will always care far more about the show telling a good story within itself than the show being identical to the books, and rafe & co will too, as they should.

the only downside to the episode is that, yes, it is quite cramped for time because there are a lot of arcs to wrap up. this should be less of an issue in future seasons when the season finale isn't "every single major storyline converges in the same place at once". for example, judging by the "goldeneyes" episode title it seems s3 might split it up so that perrin's conclusion in the two rivers is in 3x07 while other conclusions in other locations are in 3x08, giving each more breathing room. whereas 2x08 had no choice but to stuff everything in that episode into that specific episode because it's not like perrin could just do his falme stuff an episode early and take a nap while everyone else was doing THEIR falme stuff in the next episode, nor could the full falme sequence have been split into 2 episodes since that would have disrupted the flow of the story. the only solution would be for 2x08 to be extra long, which is nice to imagine, but we all know that streaming shows almost never deviate from their set episode lengths and so there isn't much point sighing about "this episode should have been 90 minutes long!" because that just is not on the table, never has been, and never will be. the first step to being able to jive with an adaptation is making peace with the limits of its particular medium!

plus, the only things i might deem "missing" from 2x08 are non-essential (ingtar darkfriend reveal - that is NOT important fight me, it's only important in the books as our first example of a morally-gray shadow-aligned person but the show has already been doing that in spades) or will likely be included in 3x01 (the gang spending some time together to breathe and process and catch up). at the end of the day, the show is always going to need to be paced very very tightly with not as much breathing room as those of us accustomed to entire books dedicated to reacting to the previous book might expect. and 2x08 did manage to pack in a LOT of character work amidst all the action and did a good mix of resolving s2 arcs while leaving some unresolved to carry into s3 and introducing some new arcs/issues/conflicts, all within 70 minutes, which i find pretty impressive. in conclusion, 2x08 my fucking beloved <3

[runningupthatvecna]

this is a little 18+ so look away, i've been sick in bed since sunday and therefore my fever dream wrote this, not me.

aaaaaa bye

——

to be honest i just want eddie and geta to serve me tea and then because they couldn't care less about getting sick themselves they'd just come and sandwich me inbetween them to keep me nice and warm in our shared lush canopy bed

eddie in nothing but his boxers and geta in a seethrough white flowy robe with golden ornaments (that is loosely tied around his waist)

they'd keep me pressed close between their bodies, eddie in the front, geta behind me, while breathing in my scent and hands roaming everywhere and caressing every inch of skin they can find

and in return to show my gratitude i'd softly moan and whimper at their touches and cockwarm them with kisses to their thick necks until they both get so desperate that they just have to fuck the cold out of me while chanting their own symphony of praise and moans into my ear with each thrust as they tell me how good i am for them to let them just use me like that even though i'm sick

yeah that would be nice i think

[comessasparrow]

It's so much more compelling to imagine the vinsmoke brothers indifferent&oblivious to the weakness of Judge's ideology until the end of wci, when they realize that sanji might be a living proof that being chained as weapons for their father is nor the only way to live. Imagine the guilt of feeling like you're complicit in your own abuse, the reality of being complicit in hurting other people. What if you were angels created to obey the word of God, support his mission, use your conviction, body, mind, faith to any use he finds beneficial. Except god is your dad who is as hollow as his ideology and all along all you've done is spend years as a war weapon

[darkwood-sleddog]

the adopt don't shop peoples lack of boundaries for people online is so....lacking. you can think whatever you want privately but do you REALLY need to go on to a post of somebody happy with their new puppy to express your disappointment? Would you say that to somebody's face in real life?

like "why didn't you adopt? *insert sad face here*" is a pathetic thing to say to somebody and robs them of their joy. Just keep your snark private ffs.

[starleska]

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED GUYS. WE HIT THE F/O BINGO!!!!!! WITH MAD MOD!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

bahahaha ohhh i can't believe this. of course it's him. how could it be anyone else 😂💖 for context: i started up the 'f/o bingo card' a few years ago as a way of identifying characters who would make me nuts, based on some recurring traits that kept popping up with my crushes. based on the old card, Mad Mod was the only one to get nearly a full house, and that record of most 'Star-bait' traits has remained undefeated 🙈💖 tastes shift, as they always do, so i decided to make a new card earlier this month with some updated characteristics...and decided to put an old favourite through to see what's changed. and lo and behold.

Mad Mod. my ultimate f/o 😳💖

[beachyserasims]

Geneva Island Legacy┃Chapter seven┃Mastering the Muses

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[yarrowleef]

I was skimming part of code of the clans today where the Leafpool narrator goes over proposed code rules that were struck down. I was curious why this StarClan rule wasn't implemented because it seems like something the zealot clan cats would go for. The guide does not rly answer my question lol

This is such a weird paragraph. It's like. In one breath Leafpool-narrator is saying they didn't make it a code rule because clan cats can think for themselves, but in the next breath implies that belief in StarClan is in fact necessary for living in the clan, because to live in a clan means you have to follow the warrior code, and belief in StarClan is what makes them follow the code (apparently). If you don't believe in StarClan, she seems to imply that must mean you are planning on leaving the clan? ("it's not a law to stay in the clan" + you can "choose a different path"?) There is not actually any room being made here for a clan cat to peacefully not believe in StarClan---at least not a good code abiding clan cat. And the alternative of leaving the clan obviously means you are no longer planning on following any of the code, so like...how is this meaningfully different from making it an official code rule?

[notanotherinfjblog]

I've been thinking more about this actually. And while I've seen trends in which types flock with which, I do think everyone has their own personal reasons for their preferences in particular judging functions. We choose those functions in other people that benefit us in some way.

And I was thinking about my own dynamics with FJs, TPs, FPs and TJs, and about how I personally feel and behave in their company, when it suddenly clicked for me why it makes so much sense that I gravitate towards TJs. You can think about your preferences in your own life as my reasoning will probably not apply to you, except some other FJs perhaps, but these are my thoughts:

FJs are easy to connect with for me on a superficial level and I like being around them, but they are giving me nothing. When two FJs meet, we always face one of two possible outcomes: 1) no decisions will be made because neither of us wants to step on any toes and instead wants to go along with whatever the other person chooses, but neither of us chooses anything because we are both like this, or 2) they are less timid than me, see my timidity and then go into mother hen mode and make decisions for me because they figure they are doing me a favour in taking the burden off my shoulders. I'm not a fan of either outcome.

TPs are fine, but there is nothing drawing me towards them. All TPs in my life are either family or work acquaintances. I've had some ESTP friends, but we always gradually lost touch because there was simply nothing that kept drawing us together. Their Ti makes sense to me, but I don't feel like I've got much to gain from it except maybe some mild exhaustion, and I imagine that TPs feel the same way about my Fe.

FPs are tricky. There is a certain subtype of Fi that I get on very well with (funnily enough, those FPs are typically the ones that end up in relationships with other FJs). A lot of FPs, however, tend to make me feel like I have to walk on eggshells around them, like I can't speak my mind and have to apologise for being the way I am and thinking the way I do. I'm certain that this is absolutely not their intention, but if you've got both Fe and social anxiety like I do, you need to be liked by other people and so you adapt and adapt and adapt. The thing is, though, that a lot of FPs will judge you specifically for doing that. They want authenticity from me, but that's not something that I can give. They will not tell me that they are disappointed in me for not being "my true self" around them (whatever that is) because they don't want to hurt my feelings, but not explicitly communicating that to me usually makes me feel like I'm simply not worth being around.

TJs, however, are great because they are straightforward with me. They show emotion in a casual way around me, like it's not as big a deal to feel this emotion like a lot FJs and FPs often make it out to be, but it's just like yeah, I'm annoyed by this, yeah, I'm terrified of that, let's work around that and get this thing done regardless. Makes me feel safe. Whenever I need advice, I always end up asking either an ESTJ, ENTJ or INTJ and no one else. They are always the ones giving me honest advice, not shying away from telling me that I'm overreacting or a bit incapable or whatever, but their advice is always solid, and they always respect me if I decide not to follow it. As my ESTJ friend always says "you are your own person, do what you feel is right, but this is how I see it." They are the ones that I feel completely safe openly disagreeing with and I like when they openly disagree with me. This way, we can have honest and interesting discussions. If I wanted someone in my life who thinks everything I do is great, I'd get a dog. I want to be told that I'm being overdramatic or unreasonable. I want to be called out on my flaws, and I can always count on my TJs to do that and I always know that it comes from a place of love.

If we use single combat as a metaphor here, I always feel like FPs are the ones running away from fighting me because they don't want to hurt me, FJs choose to fight in my place to protect me, TPs fight me for fun, and TJs are the ones giving me a sword and showing me how to use it. They are the ones challenging me to become a better person, but they never expect me to change. I do that myself because they are right.

If you want to share your own reasons for why you think it makes sense that you, personally, would gravitate towards a particular function and are willing to share, please do! I'm always interested!

As I've just realised a trend in my own friendships, what are the mbti types of the majority of people that you voluntarily and regularly surround yourself with? So I don't mean people you have to see every day like a parent if you still live with them or a co-worker you wouldn't want to go out to get drinks with, but your actual close friends or partners or anyone else you choose to spend a lot of time with. So:

[vampmcr]

theres this mutual friend of one of my besties who is like genuinely an angel and ray of sunshine btw but like . has parents who are straightedge but not in the punk way . anti meds natural remedy only anti vaxxers and i was telling her abt my mcas that i developed and how i randomly woke up one day allergic to so much n need to see doctors etc etc and she was trying to push me to look into stinging nettle therapy and how its a better alternative to being on harsh meds forever like mama i love u sm but im suffering every day and even my antihistamines dont work sometimes and i struggle to breathe and get out of bed and have fainting spells and cant be in direct sunlight . i dont think u understand x

[dayaar-e-ishq]

they hate you cause they ain't you (idk lol the anon is the only one who idk might hate you) (idk about the rest of desiblr but i love you and I love seeing you on my dash)

Thank you so much. I love you too and I love seeing you on my dash too.

[romanticize-until-you-drop]

2024-02-22

I’ve been having a bit of a rough week. My anxiety is acting up and I’m starting to realized that perhaps signing up for a bunch of large commitment extra curriculars isn’t such a great idea after all.

I felt super overwhelmed and had to pass off some of my responsibilities, but after a hot chocolate and making some to-do lists, it’s not looking like the end of the world anymore.

[exteenpopstar]

The only good thing about it being this humid is that no activity i do is going to make me feel MORE gross