I think it’s funny how Nintendo bends over backwards to say that Zelink isn’t canon when TOTK especially proves that statement wrong. The writing on the wall pretty much all but says that they’re an established romantic couple. I mean I get why they’re denying it, I really do but like come on.
This is not a perfectly direct response to what you said, but something I've always wondered is what the people who played tears of the kingdom but not breath of the wild thought.
If we hadn't seen link lose his memories, or zelda get angry with him, what would an objective view of their interactions in totk see?
Obviously the past is important and has impacted their relationship a ton. But I've always just kind of wondered: without botw, what would we think of totk zelink? What would we think of Zelda ranting and being super excited about discoveries if we didn't have a memory of her not wanting to share her research with him. What would we think of her talking about him being a knight originally appointed for her protection if we didn't know she had resented that at some point.
If we were to forget what we know about the harsh and difficult parts of their past, and look at their present interactions objectively, would we truely see love there?
And if we were to look back at the past after only looking at the present, what would we think then, about the progression?
Anyways yeah as far as Nintendo's statements is concerned it's a combat video game about saving the world they don't care for confirming any ships but we DO get DRAGONS so anyways
What are your thoughts on women romanticising or fetishising gay men via shipping. And when you draw the line when this happened. (Sorry for bad english)
Anyone who's been following me since I started this blog knows that I'm personally annoyed with the fetishization of gay people that has run rampant in fandom spaces for decades. Shipping on its own is completely fine, but I think it becomes something of an issue when people use it to implement harmful stereotypes or to hurt someone directly.
One way I often see is when some people will take two male characters and change their appearance and personalities to project heteropatriarchal standards upon them, essentially turning them into a stand-in for an abusive straight couple. This is, of course, an extreme example.
One related form of it is,via headcanon, the association of body type, personalities, and sexual positions (i.e., making the shorter or curvier male character more feminine, weak, and submissive). This oftentimes overlaps with fandom racism (making a darker-skinned character aggressive and abusive) and transphobia (people who have a trend of making all of their transmasculine-headcanoned characters soft, submissive bottoms exclusively paired with cis-male-headcanoned characters).
One of the most obvious indicators of someone doing this is if they are obsessed over whoever is the top and who is the bottom in a way that's one step from asking "But who really is the guy and who's the girl in the relationship?". This becomes incredibly apparent when a multishipper exclusively headcanons submissive/feminine bottoms and dominant/masculine tops, devoid of any variety or versatility. It's a telltale sign that someone may not care what gay people are actually like in reality.
This doesn't necessarily mean that top and bottom headcanons are inherently fetishizing, but rather, when there is an amalgamation of it being a fandom member's main priority in shipping alongside reinforcing heteronormative stereotypes.
I personally think it's fine for someone to be primarily focused on shipping characters in fandom. It's extremely common for lgbt+ fans to project their experiences onto characters or to otherwise feel connected to them through shipping-even if they're of a different gender/ orientation. (Cisgender, heterosexual fans can be avid shippers as well without harming gay people!) A fan lusting over a character and shipping through projection is not inherently problematic, either. Perhaps my stance is biased as I am guilty of both. There could be a grey area or situations that may seem suspicious if taken out of context.
The perpetrators of fetishization are not exclusively women, nor should they be blamed for it as a whole. Just as some gay people are homophobic, and some trans people are transphobic, there are occasionally members of our community who treat gayness and/or transness as an "othering" quality- whether they separate themselves from the rest of us in doing so, or if it's a form of internalized bigotry.
There are, of course, plenty of cisgender, heterosexual men who display a similar, dehumanizing attitude towards lesbians and bisexual women - whether through media or in-person. In its entirety, this is not a fandom-exclusive phenomenon.
Fetishizing behavior has been weaponized in harassment and abuse towards gay people. Essentially, the preconceived bigotries and assumptions one may have fuel harmful stereotypes cast upon fictional characters, which in turn reinforce one's beliefs and can result in one holding the same assumptions about actual people. I won't go into much detail, but I have personally experienced and witnessed sexual harassment from self-proclaimed allies and fellow members of the lgbt community due to fanfiction-influenced mindsets.
In many aspects, I think the fetishization of gay men in fandom runs parallel to the patriarchal gaze prevalent in similar spaces - although it can absolutely converge at times. It can definitely make someone who would otherwise participate as a fan, or even as a shipper, feel alienated.
the stickers look absolutely adorable!! <33 I'm definitely going to get them in a get the chance!
I wanted to ask, who is your favorite brother??
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Hello plant anon ! Always nice to see you !
Glad to know you like the stickers ! I had a lot of fun.
Assume i played most of the well known free otome, because i did.
I always been into obey me since it first came out, but it's not my favorite game and i stopped playing for real last year. This is one of the rare time where i mainly enjoy an otome just by watching the content and not really feeling a need to draw stuff about it, the game is already too moe. I still read fanfic tho, the fandom is great for those.
My favorite bros are Mammon and Beel, i first started playing BECAUSE of Beel lmao. I also have a soft spot for Diavolo and Barbatos.... Also the asmo simps got me but i only like the fanon version.
Since you got me to talk about om, lemme reshare here some stuff i made with my mc Sierra !
since this was sent in over 3 seconds ago I sorta forget what I was talking about but while you're here that reminds me!! have you heard about this funny joke about the goldfish? I think it starts off with them having three (3) seconds of memory, they don't actually but it's only for the joke only for the bit
kady i want to present an important question to u. i consider conte a hag because of both his looks and his general hag energy....... like i think of something like a swamp hag and there's drippy gross hair involved but maybe i simply consumed a lot of fantasy books as a child fkhefkkjrkof BUT i wouldn't consider pep a hag because........ the looks and energy aren't aligning in a hag direction for me SO my question is - what parameters must a man meet to be a hag in your eyes
ok so being a hag has a little to do with age... it is a state of being... sometimes you see a man and you are like Wow! why do they make me feel weird? why do they have this weird aura and energy around them? why is it that if their aura was a smell, it would be mothballs? like maybe some hags have swampy energy.. men in football may be different from men in other areas of life... but what hags in the football world have in common are: 1) being washed 2) mothball energy 3) being delusional (derogatory) 4) stuck in the past 5) are often like 40+ but it mainly depends on their energy… i may have forgotten a couple of criteria but yea. pep does not give off hag vibes.. yet!
new fun challenge for selfshippers who want to feel the fear of god: mentioning selfship content around irls who absolutely don't know what the hell selfshipping is
i used to travel the Descendants discord every day, always eager to look what people were saying and seeing what they posted-and now i practically avoid it...so fuckin fun