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scaryspears · 1 month
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The What If timelines
I really wish MK1 expanded on the what if scenarios and timelines. We know of their existence, but we don't know them intimately like we've seen with Liu Kang's timeline, or even momentarily with Shang Tsung back in mk11.
I really wanna see more Good Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Kano-Sonya and Janet Cage. Hell, even Ninja Meme Johnny. We never hear most of the other versions speak, we only see glimpses of them or just have them on screen for like a minute.
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The fact that there's a version of Johnny that showed up in the final battle dressed as Ninja Mime means that he is literally a ninja mime, and I kinda wanna see a story behind that. Maybe being talkative annoyed everyone so much that it made him feel bad and study the art of silent kung fu or something.
I want to see some Janet Cage in a story mode, I get a vibe from her that she feels more inclined to prove herself. Is she the only genderbent version in her universe or is everyone genderbent? Is she trans? She's an action star, but she didn't want to be the sexualised female heroin or sidekick, so acts cocky and obnoxious to prove that she's more than a sex symbol, her ego as some kind of defence mechanism against the sexism in Hollyweird. But that kind of takes away the point of Janet's character (because she's Johnny).
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I would really like to see Shang Tsung interact with good Shang Tsung, see how many versions of himself he can hate. Is good Shang Tsung's Liu Kang evil too?
Why does Shang Tsung have clones of Kitana if he has an evil Kitana working for him? Why would evil titan versions of the heroes help Shang Tsung? Wouldn't it be a hassle to try over throweach other because of greed and stuff?
Why are evil versions to begin with? What is their backstory? Cross-over characters... I have so many questions (genderbent ninjas, character with another's aesthetic for example: Lizard Queen).
We have evil versions of the characters, but no evil Johnny (except John Khaner). Missed opportunity to have an evil Johnny, could've made it a Jill Roberts situation where there's a timeline of evil Johnny that only cares about the fame because of some deep rooted issue. In fact, I've already mentioned John Kahner, I want to know how he became Kahn.
Back to the Mileena clones of Titan Shang Tsung, re-watching the fight I saw that they were all colour coded (red, blue, yellow, pink), so they have a rank or Shang Tsung cares about differenciating them so that they're not so much mindless killers that just do his bidding. Do they have other names? Do they all secretly want Shang Tsung's approval? Do they conspire against one another? Is he their father figure now that Shao Kahn isn't in the picture? Do they have a sister bond with each other? Is Kitana their mean older sister?
Now that our timeline has Mileena and Kitana as actual sisters, is there a timeline where Mileena and Skarlet are sisters? A timeline where Shao Kahn is a good, loving father and husband? I have so many questions.
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nxrmanreedussy · 2 months
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Damn… hate this game
nyways, JOHNNY TIME
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Drew this during math class so idk what da lesson is about oh hell nah
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Yaoi
okey bye
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feralsimp2005 · 11 days
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I SAID TO YOU CAUSE SOME ENTITLED BITCH GOT OFFENDED THAT I SUGGESTED THAT JOHNNY CAGE IS NEURODIVERGENT AND HE DIDN'T KNOW IT AND THEY HAD THE FUCKING NERVE, GAUL AND AUDACITY TO SAY THAT THEYRE FED UP WITH "ANNOYING CHARACTERS" BEING LABELED THAT CAUSE AND NOTHING ELSE BEFORE BLOCKING ME
YOU CAN'T HAVE A FUCKING INVADER ZIM PFP WHEN YOURE ACTING LIKE YOU DIDN'T FUCKING COMMENT ON A POST YOU COULD'VE SCROLLED PASS
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spengzzz · 8 months
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Do you like:
-DC Comics
-Marvel Comics
-Mortal Kombat
-Animation (mainly western, still getting into anime)
OR:
-Are you neurodivergent?? (Autism/ADHD)
-Are you Black???
-Are you an adult??
-An artist?? (Any medium)
If you said yes to any of these questions, go ahead and be my mutual😁🫶🏾
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jellyjays · 7 months
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initial thoughts after my first MK1 playthrough:
(disclaimer that i didn't actually play the game, i watched a full no commentary playthrough on youtube!!)
i fucking love this game so much holllly SHIT- expect sosososo much MK1 posting from now on. i will be on brainrot for a WHILE.
i have so many thoughts and observations and feelings, from the story to the characters to the gameplay.
all of my silly words will be below this cut
(SPOILER WARNING !!!!)
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my fav characters are these, in no particular order:
johnny cage
kenshi takahashi
raiden
mileena
syzoth
shang tsung
baraka
liu kang
kuai liang
smoke
sindel
ashrah
my least favs are these:
quan chi
rain
bi-han
thoughts on specific characters, if i have them:
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JOHNNY:
he's literally so audhd. so silly <33
his spinterest is definitely film and acting
he's so very much transgender to me.
reiterating, reading his character as neurodivergent/aspec gives him so much depth that i love
(hes my fav btw. just so everyone knows.)
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MILEENA:
sososo pretty <3
CANON LESBIAN I LOVE IT SO MUCH
so very badass. slays so hard
she's the kind of character i just love on instinct. i have no words about her. just so much love
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SHANG TSUNG:
i hated him at first but his flamboyant and unintentionally silly ways entranced me
my only note is that he would look so much better covered in blood and dirt and slightly beat up. i would pay to see that.
he is so silly and flamboyant that i cannot take him seriously. he's the kind of guy i hold like a disobedient kitten and show you and say "look at my dog"
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LIU KANG:
no notes. phenomenal
the type of character i would show you and say "this is my favorite. he is very sweet and well-behaved."
just a good guy. i want him to be my uncle. he has very good uncle vibes for some reason.
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QUAN CHI:
ugly as shit. next question
how did sindel fall for this guy he's like. a carbon copy of those evil timeline destroying monks in dr strange. the two are no different.
not even silly to make up for being criminally ugly. can't believe this.
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BI-HAN
i knew he was fake from the beginning. just saying.
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RAIDEN
beautiful sweet country boy. perfect in every way. no notes. next.
my thoughts on the story and worldbuilding:
this game absolutely blew me away with the level of detail and intricacies- i've never been so immersed in a game before. it really felt like i was brought into the story right next to the characters, and everything felt real and tangible in so many ways. outworld felt like a real, tangible place i could visit if i wanted to, thanks to the careful additions and placement of every last piece of detail, down to the costumes and cultures and worlds.
i loved the political world-building we got throughout the whole thing, down to the cultures, the peoples, their biases, their afflictions. the virus, the conflicts behind the scenes, everything- it was so fucking cool.
so many of the twists i did NOT see coming, i think because of the incredibly careful world-building- we never got clear, obvious exposition. it all came through the story itself, the beats and events, and that was sosososo fucking cool. i., ksdjgfkajshgef
the gameplay:
the story and the gameplay just blend/lead right into each other seamlessly, and it's so. LK:JEFG HLQW$UG ITS SO FUCKING COOL.
the fact that all the characters connected to sindel had similar movesets and animations, showing how they clearly learned from each other, there's a clear connection there.
there was also some connection i didn't quite understand between a bunch of characters who had this one move where they. barf blood on your face?? which was baffling but also, despite me not fulling understanding WHAT connection there is, i know there is one, which is what's important.
there are a LOT of instances of this in the game, where characters with connections to each other will show it in how they fight. it's so fucking cool to me and such. KLJG FLQ FKLJGQW ITS SO COOOOOL KJGF ARGGGHHGHG
summary:
im so fucking insane. i will be doing more MK posting soon. thank yuou for your time.
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zoetheneko · 2 years
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Zoé
First name: Zoé
Last name: Unknown
Name analysis: "Life"
A.K.A.:
💖The pink witch💖
Nicknames:
💖Zo💖kid/kiddo💖Catlady💖young one💖
Johnny Cage announcer names:
"Bubblegum"
"Quite the handful"
"She's got a knife"
"Neighbor"
Date of birth: April 22nd
Zodiac sign: Taurus
Age: 17
Height: 5" 6
Blood type: Unknown
Species: Kemonomimi (neko)
Origins: Earthrealm
Nationality: French Canadian
Current location: Earthrealm
Affiliation: Special forces
Status: Alive
Alignment: Chaotic good
Sexuality: Aroace
Gender: Girlflux (she/they)
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Hair colour: Dark blonde
Eye colour: Blue
Hair style: short
Physical health: Good
Mental health: Neurodivergent (Autism)
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Favourite colour: Pink
Favourite shape: heart
Favourite food:
Grilled cheese
Poutine
Vanilla ice cream
Nature potato chips
Bananas
Sour gummies
Spicy stuff
Favourite drinks:
Water
Pepsi
Coffee
Apple juice
Favourite hobbies:
Drawing
Video games
Swimming
Cooking/baking
Eating
Sleeping
Travelling throughout the realms
Hiking
Collecting cool stuff
Cheering people up
Favourite things in life:
Rain (pluviophilia)
Windy weather
Quiet spaces
Oversized hoddies
Pink roses
Seeing people smiling
Memes
Beds
Children
Confy places
The moon (Selenophilia)
Insects
Hot baths
The sent of lilac
New horizons
Kissing couples
Hearts (Both the shape and the organ)
Fire (Pyromania)
Black cats
Crows
Least favourite things in life:
Toxic people
Very long conversations
Being bossed
Impoliteness
Seeing people close to her getting hurt or crying (she will cry too)
Being alone for a long amount of time
Popping balloons/fireworks
Lies/lying
Raw veggies
Social status:
Apprentice of Rambo
Cadet in the Special Forces
Siblings: 4
Family:
Father | Alive
Mother | Alive
Younger sister | Alive
Younger brother | Alive
Yongest brother | Alive
Yongest Sister | Alive
Friends/Allies:
Special Forces
John Rambo
Ethan (by me)
Cassie Cage
Jacqui Briggs
Takeda Takahashi
Kung Jin
Sonya Blade
Johnny Cage
Jax Briggs
Mitsuko @saito-mitsuko
Arien @saito-mitsuko
Ombra @theelderhazelnut
Sienna @loverofthewindgod
Henrieta @bar10du
Lady Xuna @bisexualjohnnycage
Varian @middlechildwhoescapedthebasement
Stinger @takiisieju
Huntress @chadillacboseman
Megan @scentedcandleibex
Iris @scentedcandleibex
Rebelius @scentedcandleibex
Giri @licoricelump
Dia @darialovesstuff
Zain @loreoflemons
Blyght @loreoflemons
Milo @loreoflemons
Tora @tora-lotus
Baraka
Kuai Liang (Sub Zero)
Hanzo Hazashi (Scorpion)
Lumine
Ennemies:
Kronika
Geras
Cetrion
Shao Khan
Shang Tsung
D'vorah
Frost
The black dragon
Kano
Erron Black
Kabal
Neutral/complicated:
Shaolin
White lotus
Raiden
Fujin
Kotal Kahn
Sheeva
Mentor:
John Rambo
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Love interest: None
Speed: 9/10
Agility: 8/10
Intelligence: 8/10
Strength: 8/10
Stealth: 10/10
Stamina: 10/10
Flexibility: 7/10
Cooperation: 9/10
Durability: 9/10
Fighting skills: 9/10
Reflexes: 10/10
Instinct: 9/10
Wardrobe:
Accessories/weapons:
Toeless/heelless socks
Dark blue gloves (optionnal)
Black face mask (optionnal)
Powers/Abilities:
Martial training
Energy blows (Just like johnny or cassie but pink)
Fire manipulation (the fire is pink)
Reading the energy and aura of living things
Healing the wounded (including plants somehow) (but not herself)
Teleportation/Portal manifest
Levitation
Wardrope:
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Personalty:
Zoé is a very socialy awkward person, but once she has the time to get to know some people, she can be a funny and loveable person. She is also very calm and patient when needed.
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seven-oomen · 3 years
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There’s a specific group of Scott Stans (the Scott McCall Defense Squad bunch) that desperately cling to this idea that “if anything happened to Scott, Stiles would immediately drop everything and fly himself home powered by sheer rage on his alpha’s behalf” and only tolerates Stiles when they rewrite him as Scott’s own personal attack dog. The most hilarious thing though – besides Scott fans using a neurodivergent character they are clearly unhealthily obsessed with and claim to despise to make Scott “relevant”, that is – is that I never saw Stiles being angry, or full of rage, or attacking anyone on Scott’s behalf in the actual show.
Stiles is very protective of werewolves in general and threatened people over Lydia, over Malia, over Allison, over his father, over his mother, over Cora, over Isaac, Erica and Boyd, and he openly confronted the Argents on what Kate and Gerard did to Derek and to the Hale Pack/Family. But he NEVER expressed rage, or hatred, or resentment on Scott’s behalf specifically in canon.
When Theo murders Scott in Teen Wolf Season 5, no one even notices (nor gives a shit) that Scott died. And when Liam brings Theo back from Hell in Teen Wolf Season 6, the only one who shows any kind of hatred, rage, resentment, contempt, and still holds a grudge against Theo for playing Scotty like a fiddle and for successfully putting Scotty into an early grave is… Scotty himself.
Everyone else either didn’t particularly care about Scott and put saving Stiles above Scott’s bruised ego and temper tantrums, or was angry at Theo for what Theo did to them and to their loved ones – Malia on Stiles, Lydia and Kira’s behalf, Liam on his, Mason and Hayden’s behalf, Stiles on Lydia, Malia, Kira, Liam and his father’s behalf, etc.
Meanwhile, Scott McCall…
(06x06, “Ghosted”)
SCOTT [to Theo]: I hope you realize it’s taking all of my strength to not tear you in half right now!
(06x07, “Heartless”)
SCOTT: [furiously] He’s going back into the ground!
LIAM: You can’t! He remembers Stiles!
MALIA: Scott remembers Stiles. Lydia and I remember Stiles.
LIAM: The Dread Doctors knew all about the Wild Hunt. He can help us.
SCOTT: [yelling] Or he could kill us!
LIAM: Theo is my responsibility. Noshiko gave me the sword.
HAYDEN: You both are right. If Theo tries anything, we’ll send him back to the Skinwalkers. But, for right now—
SCOTT: [yelling] He goes back now!
THEO: [smug] Except Liam’s the one with the sword.
*Scott grabs Liam and drags him into the living room to talk, leaving Malia, Lydia, Hayden and Theo in the back room*
LIAM: What? You don’t trust me?
SCOTT: I don’t trust him! Do you?!
LIAM: No. But I think we can use him.
SCOTT: [yelling] Remember who Theo is! He got into your head and you tried to kill me! And when that didn’t work, he did kill me! And Tracy, and Josh, and his sister!
LIAM: But this might be our only chance to get Stiles back.
SCOTT: [whiny] Can’t we just try to find somebody that we at least trust?
LIAM: This might be a mistake, but you don’t know that yet. And you made a lot of mistakes when you were learning to be an alpha.
SCOTT: Yeah, I made a lot… But we don’t have time for mistakes! I can’t lose Stiles!
LIAM: So we should try anything we can to save him. Right? Even Theo.
SCOTT: Convince me.
LIAM: I can put him back in the ground any time.
THEO: You also need a transformer that can handle five billion joules of electricity. I know where to find one, and I can show you how it works. I’ll tell you if Malia promises not to kill me.
LYDIA: She promises.
MALIA: No, I don’t.
MALIA [to Hayden]: We’re really gonna do this? Trust him?
HAYDEN: You got a better idea?
MALIA: I’ve got an idea. It may not be better… But at least it’s not him.
So yeah. Scott/Posey extremists’ “twue alpaha Scott is the center of everyone’s universe and their main priority, and if Peter Hale killed Scott, Stiles would be utterly devastated and should despise Peter and the Hales on Scott’s behalf” self insert power fantasy has 0 basis in canon.
I mean, yes, if Peter Hale had actually succeeded in killing Scott in Teen Wolf Season 4, Stiles would have been sad (because Stiles is a good, empathetic Bambi eyed hero with a heart of gold who keeps putting up with Scott’s bullshit even if he doesn’t have to.) But then Stiles would move on just like everyone else and finally realize how much better and happier he is without such a toxic, abusive friend in his life.
Lydia, Stiles, Malia, Liam, Kira Jackson, Danny, Chris and Mason would definitely join the Hale Pack. Cora has made it absolutely clear that she despises Scott and wants to be Stiles’ new BFF; and Peter is just waiting for the right, vulnerable moment to offer Stiles the Bite again because, as Peter Hale shamelessly admits in S6, he literally NEVER stopped fantasizing about turning-Mate biting Stiles. All the Cora, Stiles, Lydia & Kira’s ride or die friendship, Hale Pack feelings, and Spark/Emissary Stiles and Dark Stiles/Void Stiles’ unleashed potential ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I can’t really comment on S4-6 since I didn’t watch it aside from some clips of Peter, Noah, and Chris. (Noah going to town and bringing out the Johnny Cage??? Hello Sheriff!) But yeah, I can’t really give much insight on those seasons but I think characterisation went downhill after 3B anyway, so I’m not surprised by inconsistencies.
I will say this, I don’t believe Peter would give Stiles the bite without consent. For all Peter’s faults, he’s not someone who would force himself on people like that. I honestly think Scott was an outlier, maybe even an accident in a way. But that is merely speculation.
Would he manipulate Stiles or try to convince him? Yeah, let’s be real, this is Peter. So he would try and convince him. But if Stiles continually says no? It stays no.
It is an interesting thought though, what would have happened if Peter had turned someone else that night?
I think my favorite speculations are Noah Stilinski (the Sheriff) or even Chris Argent. And Chris hiding it because he doesn’t want to leave his daughter behind. I think that would be extraordinarily interesting.
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scaryspears · 8 days
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Havik Rant + Wasted Plotential and Theory
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Warning: This is a long post, so read if you have the time.
I love Havik in the 3d era, and I guess it's because there's so little of him that sets him up for mystery, but I mainly love his face. The way half his face is ridden of flesh and his eyes glow as if he's some kind of Skeletor adjacent creature. I always look at him and go "How did it get to this point?", but in a way where I'm laughing about it, 'cause what did bro do to his face?
I hope Titan Havik will be a great break from the cartoonish evil that is Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi and the others. (Don't get me wrong with Shang Tsung, I love him, but his belief system is equivalent to a power ranger villain. He's basically Valtor if he was successful. I'm not talking about MK1 Shang btw.)
I also can't picture Havik working with or for villains like Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, and Shinnok. Havik wants to spread chaos, yes, but I don't think he views this as enslavement and feeding off misery. Another thing I'd like to note is his voice and delivery, courtesy of George C. Cole. Havik is calm, patient and almost kind. Shao Kahn actively sounds dominant, Shang Tsung is calm but cruel and impatient, with Quan Chi being condescending.
In the small glimpses that I've seen Havik through the later games (before MK1) he seems like a pretty chill guy. Now get this, Chaos is his way of life because that's the world he comes from. Chaos is basically the equivalent of freedom, so Havik wants to share that freedom. In Deceptions Konquest mode he describes water in a way you only expect from a scholar with a love and sense for nature, and I interpreted this as him believing everything should go naturally. In a Christian perspective, humans are naturally evil, and it's in our nature to be attracted to wicked things. Havik wants us to embrace who we are, and our deep desires.
In Noob Saibot's MK9 ending he meets Havik and shares an 'understanding' with him. Havik helps him with taking over the Netherealm before saying goodbye and returning to the Chaosrealm, no back stabbing or anything. Next there's Joker's ending in MK11, and we all know how Joker is. But there's also Mileena (before NRS let fans bully them into making her dlc), whose bloodlust is fuelled by her Tarkatan blood, a trait she cannot help because it's instinctual. Finally, in MK: Deception's Konquest mode he agrees to train Shujinko if Shujinko helps him in return, and he does but in his own way. Experience instead of practice. Havik doesn't come off as evil but chaotic neutral.
Wasted Plotential
I try not to complain about anything these days because I know NRS are gonna disappoint us anyways, but if I was to really complain about things then I'll start with the storymode, and with the previous games.
MKX could've just been about Sub Zero and Scorpion finding out about Quan Chi and stopping Shinnok. How? Idk, Johnny uses the amulet to trap Shinnok, the Special Forces find Sektor's files and reveal them to Scorpion, who gets his revenge and yada yada. Helps them free Sub Zero and Jax, blah blah.
Scorpion defeating Shinnok is more believable since he's stronger and cooler (sorry Johnny), and has more familiarity with the Neatherealm. (What was the point of building up Johnny just to nerf him in MK11?)
Johnny and Sonya get divorced earlier on because of their differing views on the world (and parenting), so Cassie becomes a UFC fighter or a pro wrestler (as a reference to Johnny's quote in his MK9 chapter about possibly winning a belt in the tournament). I remember coming up with an idea where Jacqui leaves the Special Forces and gets trained by the Shirai-Ryu, but saw an AU fanart design where she was trained by the Lin Kuei, which sounds so much better since it separates her from Takeda. Jacqui shares strong ideals with her father but his overbearing reluctance caused her to be more rebellious and find another way to defend Earthrealm without him possibly intercepting. Instead of being a Jax variant she shares more similarity to Human Cyrax (technology + ninjutsu assassination), and that can introduce a little beef with Frost and have them both deliver lines that feel more personal since they have the same teacher, but have different morals that make them butt heads. Johnny ends up leading the Kombat kids with the Wu Shi instead of the Special Forces, edging Sonya to check on Cassie more often by trying to be involved with their missions. (During MK9 Johnny was glued to Raiden's side and his focus was more on the tournament than on Sonya. After Cyrax defeats him it's Raiden that checks on him.) Instead of Cassie saving the day, have Scorpion save the day because Shinnok is Quan Chi's master, and Scorpion needs to fix his mess. Also because Scorpion would have better control with his powers and has more experience.
The next game can introduce Havik, with the chaos happening in small ways at first, like trees slowly decaying and technology acting against them. Havik is a lesser evil than Shao Kahn, Quan Chi and Shinnok, but he's nothing Scorpion or Sub Zero have handled before since he's less predictable and isn't paranoid about someone threatening his power. Bro just wants to spread some joy and laughter (sarcasm). I'm pretty sure Havik wouldn't even have an army, and I doubt his minions will be anything like the aggressive jobbers that are seen in Outworld. With Shao Kahn it's power and being served, but with Havik it would be everyone serves each other, meaning they will inflict pain on each other and themselves = This game can be about the heroes and villains turning on themselves, by being more honest and less co-operative.
The Special Forces start being wary of the Wu Shi, Sonya interrogates Dark Raiden on information he could be withholding about the realms, Raiden counters back with how she is trying to enlist the Kombat kids behind his back when they are already content with their current positions.
Frost has stolen Sektor's body parts from the Special Forces, and plans to cyberise herself with them. Jacqui and Cassie are sent to stop Frost's cyber initiation plans. Cassie defeats Frost, but Jacqui has the need to rehabilitate her, which sets her at odds with Cassie who doesn't believe Frost is worthy of it, and that they must follow Raiden's orders.
Noob Saibot is working under revenant Liu Kang, but just like his MK9 ending, he starts plotting against him and the other revenants. Noob confronts Hanzo about his loyalty to Quan Chi, and how Hanzo worked with him even after Noob was killed. Noob's revenge is forcing Hanzo to shift between himself and Scorpion, ensuring that the Lin Kuei and Shirai-Ryu will never have peace with Hanzo continuously reliving the past and trying to kill Sub Zero.
Kung Lao reports that the head of Shinnok is missing, and Liu Kang accuses Kung Lao of having something to do with it, and so the revenants turn on themselves. A civil war begins in Neatherealm.
Hotaru meets up with the heroes and tells them that Havik is behind their plight, and offers Seidos help if Earthrealm helps them with the resistance in Seido. Kung Jin and Takeda are sent to aid and they witness the injustice and lunacy of Seidos rules. Kung Jin being Kung Jin speaks against this, and Hotaru has a problem with it, Takeda tries his best to keep the peace. Kung Jin defeats Darrius, Dairou and whatever. Although Hotaru keeps his word about the help thing, he is overbearing when it comes to the rules and their strategy, even getting in the way of the Special Forces.
Skarlet teams up with Tanya to find Mileena's soul (Because why not?They're sisters). Ermac doesn't have it, so they must find it through the Neatherealm. They meet Noob, who admits that he consumed it, but points out the location of the Flesh Pits for a calling of clues. Skarlet combines her power with Noob's to give life to the clones encased in glass (blood + shadow). The clones unleash chaos throughout Outworld, but Skarlet is not finished in her revenge.
Johnny reveals to Dairou that Darrius is behind his family's murder, and sets him free to let him get revenge. Sonya argues that he's made a terrible mistake, but Johnny says that she let Kano live and how that keeps screwing everyone over.
Johnny decides to get a drink at a bar, and Havik will show up, calm and collected. Johnny compliments his costume, and Havik expresses that his fake-ness is an interesting weapon.
I don't know what else.
Theory
I think Havik's hero equivalent would be Johnny Cage, which is where he would come in as the hero instead of defeating a former elder god. Havik isn't Godlike, I'd say his power level is identical to Edenian/Outworld, and if Sonya can handle defeating Kitana and Jade at the same time, then Johnny can handle his own against Havik. Just like Havik, Johnny has a separation from the other heroes concerning his traits and/or beliefs, even sometimes clashing with Cassie, who is always noted to be much like him in personality. Johnny has an easy going attitude that pisses off just about everyone around him, to the point . I think he would be the first to pick up on the odd energy surrounding everyone.
First off he likes to give everyone a nickname, much to their displeasure. Very adamant on giving them those names, but Havik would arguably (probably) be more accepting. I'm quite certain that Havik's name is a title given to him or a name he's made up himself. There are some fans who speculate that he doesn't even have a name given at birth and made up 'Havik' to be his name, suggesting that the name is somewhat earned through experience.
Chaosrealm doesn't have a real name, like Edenia and Seido, it's simply called Chaosrealm. They don't have a name for themselves, simply a representation of what they embody.
"Grandmaster Blueberry Ice, eh?"
"Only Johnny Cage may use that name and live."
Johnny's humour is fuelled by his insensitivity, even while fighting on the side of good he is self-serving, superficial and has a self confidence that almost everyone is eager to stomp on (he's basically a normal person). Even when he clearly doesn't mean to be insensitive (speaking the truth or what's on his mind), people still get offended by what he's said and express some form of aggression. Hell, Bi Han kicked the hell out of him just for touching his arm in MK1.
Now I'm going to get really technical here: In MK11 Skarlet was present and you could tell she was a stand-in for Mileena, which is shown in her sibling rivalry with Kitana. Now let's say Joker was a stand-in for Havik, and in his ending he voices his displeasure about the roster "But these nincompoops? They didn't really get me. Not even that pretty boy, Ninja Mine. Goodnight, sweet Prince!" meaning Joker saw some potential in Johnny Cage. Saw something that suggested that they are similar.
Johnny Cage's humour aside, there has to be something else.
Now let's get into Johnny's MK9 ending: Johnny starts to have spasms where a burst of energy would escape him and destroy everything around him, so he is sent to Seido to learn how to better control it.
Next, to Havik and Johnny's Armageddon endings: Johnny becomes enlightened, freed from vanity and leaves the acting business. What seemed like the joys of life before became meaningless to him, and wanted no part in the shallow lifestyle. Then there's Havik, whose dream for chaos becomes absolute.
(As a bonus let's compare Johnny's ending to Hotaru's, where everyone was forced to bow to Hotaru or be changed into someone they're not. Havik gets the worst end of it by being turned into Hotaru's 2nd in command. What's even funnier is that in the Armageddon intro I can spot Hotaru as the one who impaled Li Mei, but Li Mei is on the side of good while Hotaru is suspiciously on the opposite, despite being against the forces of evil. Why would he be on the same side as Havik when they are enemies? I would also like to point out that Johnny was fighting Darrius, a man resisting the Order of Seido.)
I already wrote something similar to this in another post I made like a year ago, but I'm gonna say this anyway. Johnny found out by himself that all the luxuries and fame that he sought in life weren't worth it. In his MK11 ending he ends up going on adventures with Cassie after coming to this realisation, choosing a life where he can always spend time with those he loves, not ruling over the world or being a dictator. There's chaos within Johnny, but there is a want or need for peace and stability.
Johnny should've been the one that was super pissed about being in a death tournament. Up until that point Johnny has never killed anyone, yet suddenly is expected to in exchange for his own life. How does he, a Hollyweird actor, fit into all this? He got tricked into this yet was able to adapt. He's fine with it, or pretends to be, handling it better than everyone else around. The "Sure, let's go and ruin someone else's life." quote from MK9 always runs through my head when I think about his dedication to defending Earthrealm and trusting Raiden.
When the tournament took place Johnny didn't really know Raiden personally, but Johnny trusted him. Johnny had no reason to be loyal to Raiden, yet he was, unlike Liu Kang who ended up losing faith and rebelling. Johnny has all the recipes to let his ego get to him and potentially betray Raiden, but he never does so.
If Havik and Johnny were to have anything in common, I would say it's a strong sense of faith in what they believe in. Johnny fights for the betterment of Earthrealm, Havik fights for havoc.
I'm very certain that even though Johnny changed over the years, the people around him still hold a dislike towards him to some degree. My first candidates for this are Sonya and Jax.
Read this if you can be bothered: [No matter what, Jax cannot stand Johnny, even at an age where they're more familiar with each other.]
Sonya and Jax are basically the order to Johnny's chaos. Being around them has also influenced (turned) him into someone he wasn't, which was a self hating Special Forces aid (What are is credentials?). It was Hotaru's Armageddon ending but slower.
The reason I haven't listed Kuai Liang is because... I think Kuai Liang has a bit of a friendship with Johnny. He's fond of him, but he won't admit it. He even helps Johnny in sending the Kombat kids into a fake mission with the Lin Kuei.
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scaryspears · 10 months
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Johnny: Opinions and Thoughs
These are my thoughts and opinions on Mortal Kombat that a bunch of people probably won't care about, but I thought I should post them here. Now I will be using past games as reference, even though every character's interpretation/counterpart is different, they still play part to the canon storyline.
[Warning: This post is very long. Slight mention of sexual oral practise.]
I think every single character in Mortal Kombat is prideful and egotistical, the best example would be Jade in my opinion. With that being said I think the way they treat Johnny is a bit unfair. A lot of these will fall in line with my Neurodivergent Johnny headcanons and theory post, I suggest checking that out for context. I know the intros aren't canon and are more what if scenarios, but they mean something.
I have a lot of things to say regarding his character, for starters he gets invited to a tournament and sees it as a chance to show people he isn't just some actor but is legit in his martial arts. Good for him, (I've seen posts that demonise this and say it's pretty selfish as if we shouldn't be allowed to be selfish when situations call for it. Bro didn't like that people were calling him a fake and wanted to prove that he wasn't, there's nothing wrong with that.). When he shows up at the tournament half of the contestants are wearing costumes, can't blame the guy for not thinking it was real at first. There's a lady dressed as a hot soldier (I understand that it gets retconned), a bunch of ninjas standing around, and his opponents are wearing alien makeup.
First of all Johnny doesn't know about the existence of other realms, second of all it's the 90s and he's a Hollywood actor meaning he's no stranger to makeup and practical effects not to mention stunts. He probably figured it was something comic con related (as I've said in another post) and while questioning it he went along with it. He had no reason to think that Reptile and Baraka were real creatures.
When Johnny is told to finish his opponent he responds with "Yeah, right.", and I gotta say, it took me years to find out there was a sexual innuendo to that. Dude straight up thought they were demanding him to perform 'you-know-what'. That was just an example of what's to come (I'll be using the word 'example' lot). (Hollywood must be a wild place even in fiction).
First I'll start with his interactions. He's not very good at bonding with people. In mk9 we see a lot of this. I get that Johnny has his problematic moments, but in comparison to the other characters he's an angel. I'm the sort of person to sweep them under the rug, but I have to address them.
Examples:
"And I'm taking you down. I'm taking you down. I'm taking you out. I'm taking you out. And I'm taking you out... for dinner." I genuinely interpreted this as Johnny being playful. To be fair, I first saw this interaction when I was a child (say 7-9) so the fact that I could see myself doing that probably had to do with my immaturity. But everytime I rewatch it I only have fondness and not annoyance because I found it adorable just how proud he was of himself. I also appreciate how open he is about how he feels towards Sonya, I stan an honest man. However, it seems a lot of viewers saw this as him being stupid or something along those lines. If this was any other character they would be told to go to horny jail, but Johnny is met with hostility from most of the fandom.
"Nice hat :)." Johnny to Raiden in mk9. "You should be more respectful of Lord Raiden!" Liu Kang says to Johnny right away. SonicXD commented on this in his mk9 sucks video, I don't need to say anything. Johnny wasn't interested in saving Earthrealm at first, he straight up told Raiden and Liu Kang that they should call the military if Shao Kahn was that much of a threat (he was speaking facts tho). Also, I think he was still questioning what he got himself into, so Raiden and Liu Kang approaching him probably made him think he was surrounded by insane people. And then he finds out that it's all real and that he's not allowed to leave.
There's also when Johnny saved Sonya from Kano. How that went down was that Johnny was trying to escort her. By the way, this is minutes after he realised that he was in a death match and not some comic con related fighting tournament, everyone was waiting for him to kill Baraka and it dawned on him just how serious they were. So Johnny got worried for Sonya's safety by that alone. But it's also understandable on Sonya's end: here comes this guy trying to chat her up (get into her pants) and not getting the hint that she's not interested, and then tries to convince her that he needs to be by her side.
Cyrax got annoyed just by hearing him talk, you can see it on his face. I saw it as friendly banter on Johnny's side but Cyrax didn't. "Not everyone gets to rumble with a celebrity. Ready for a beat down, Sunshine? Here it comes." I think Cyrax was gonna kill him by that alone if it wasn't for Raiden's disapproving dad stares. Every single Lin Kuei is super serious so I think Cyrax didn't take it as banter.
Next is Jax. Johnny Green, Jax Purple: "So what's the deal with you and Sonya anyway? She is smocking hot." "It's not like that. I'm her CO." "Honey like that under my command-" "You'll wanna stop talking now." "...So if it's not like that- Then you won't mind if I-" "That's it!" And then Jax proceeds to beat him up.
Now I understand that Johnny was talking too much, and was a tad bit slimy about his hornyness, but he didn't want to get between her and Jax if they were a thing. He just has no filter. Now following my Neurodivergent headcanons for him this may have an occasion where he wasn't reading the social cues. Jax says "You'll wanna stop talking now." but Johnny has no intentions to stop talking nor does he want to stop talking. Johnny doesn't answer immediately, perhaps confused about the reply and ultimately deciding to ignore it. I too choose the wrong times to start talking to people, and most of the time I don't realise it unless it's pointed out. Happens way often than I'd like to admit.
I know that a lot of the characters call Johnny a clown or see him as a joke (Spawn, Kotal, Shang Tsung) due to how he operates, but I don't see that as the case. There's one specific quote in mk9's story mode that he says to Raiden: "Sure, let's go and ruin someone else's life." This is why I think Johnny was very aware of what was going on. He's also very open about his ego, he doesn't hide it like everyone else, and yes they are hiding it.
Now don't get me wrong, he does randomly antagonise people, but he's in a tournament so he can do that. And it's not like he was getting personal for most of them. I think the only time he says something personal is when he feels like he's being personally attacked.
"We have something in common?" - Johnny
"I too was once young and foolish." - Nightwolf
"But I looked good doing it." - Johnny
What Nightwolf said sounded like a backhanded comment to me. Uncalled for. This is the same guy that intentionally risked the invasion of Earthrealm just to teach Scorpion a lesson or something. Johnny can tell that Nightwolf is like the others, very serious and tolerant, so he's surprised that Nightwolf can even manage to see himself in him.
Relationships: Even in the intros it's shown that he has a better chance at friendships with the villains than with the good guys. It's more like they (good guys) are tolerable of him, especially Jax. I think Sub Zero allowing Johnny to get away with calling him Grandmaster Blueberry Ice is out of respect rather than fondness. This section can extend to interactions, as I think a lot of people misinterpret him as a person, which extends to a lot of things he says such as statements and nicknames.
Johnny asks the other characters if he can make movies based on their stories, meaning he's (in a way) asking for permission. Johnny could've easily made a movie about their lives without asking them, make money, and get away with it because it's not like they would even watch his movies (they hate him), especially non-Earthrealm characters. But he's respectful. So I guess he understands boundaries to a certain degree.
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"Heard you gave Cage a shiner." - Young Jax
"He pushes every damn one of my buttons." - Old Jax
"You, me and everyone else." - Young Jax
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"Not surprised I have a kid, but you." - Jax
Why can't he have a kid, Jax? He's so condescending about it too.
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"Actions speak louder than words." - Liu Kang
"Yeah, that's why I make action movies." - Johnny
"With fake fighting." - Liu Kang
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"We come from different worlds, Johnny." - Liu Kang
"Aren't you from Earthrealm too?" - Johnny
"I mean I come from the real world." - Liu Kang
Liu Kang is such a bully.
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"The answer remains no." - Scorpion
"But you'll be co-starring with yours truly." - Johnny
"Exactly." - Scorpion
I think a true friend would consider it.
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"What kind of name is Kabal?" - Johnny
"Got a better suggestion, Cage?" - Kabal
"For now on you're Carlos." - Johnny
Never change, Johnny. Kabal clearly finds Johnny annoying, but was able to humour him enough to answer with a question of his own, perhaps encouraging Johnny's curiosity.
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"Looking forward to a kindler, gentler Outworld." - Johnny
"Why? Because I'm a woman?" - Kitana
"Well that, and you're banging Liu Kang." - Johnny
I have a lot of opinions about this one. On Johnny's part I interpreted this as him giving her a thumbs up on becoming the new Kahn, and since Kitana is supposed to be on the good side she is expected to rule fairly. You know, like a good person. But then Kitana made it about feminism, so Johnny delivered a line to counter it. I honestly think Kitana was reaching at something that wasn't there and Johnny picked up on it. I'm probably making excuses for him, but that's my take. Her response annoyed me so much.
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"So you were to defeat Shinnok." - Kitana
"What is with people? Is it so hard to believe?" - Johnny
"Yes." - Kitana
Kitana this is literally you:
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"If it's tail you want I can get that." - Kano
"Johnny Cage doesn't pay for it, Kano." - Johnny
"A scrubble? Note the date and time :D." - Kano
Kano is so pleased.
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"You stole my face for Ninja Priest!" - Kano
"Art imitates life, Kano." - Johnny
"Taking my cut outta of your hide." - Kano
A call back to what I stated in the relationships, Johnny didn't ask for Kano's permission for inspiration on a character.
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"Why a Russian fan club?" - Johnny
"Just going where the fans are." - Kano
"You have a showman's instincts there Kano. :D" - Johnny
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"I won't play your lackey, Cage." - Baraka
"Really? 'Cause I'm feeling a BFF vibe here." - Johnny
So this one is pretty wishy washy, but thought it would be beneficial to this post. I would lowkey enjoy a storyline where Johnny is buddy buddy with Baraka, who is reluctant to accept friendship but slowly gets used to it. 
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"Oh, dude! I love westerns!" - Johnny
"The bullets are real, Cage" - Erron Black
"So are my fists." - Johnny
I'm pretty sure Johnny was just admiring Erron for what he is, kind of like meeting a nun in real life after years of only hearing about them... something like that. But Erron interpreted it as Johnny not being in the real world and treating everything as a joke.
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"Where is your fear?" - Noob Saibot
"Must've left it in my other pants." - Johnny
"We will find it." - Noob Saibot
Aww, Noob Saibot is so nice~ [Delusion] I love how Noob doesn't go out of his way to insult Johnny or belittle him, unlike some other characters.
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"Hey there, Tall Dark and Gruesome." - Johnny
"An apt description." - Noob Saibot
"Do you not get I am mocking you?" - Johnny
I headcanoned that Noob/Bi Han would take things literal, but he's also very analytical. I'm sure he was able to pick up on Johnny mocking him but didn't mind it, meaning he might have interpreted it as a nickname, which Johnny gives everyone. Wishful thinking, there could've been a lot of banter between these two.
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"You are more smug than usual." - Fujin
"I'm the new assistant thunder God." - Johnny
"Raiden should not have healed you." - Fujin
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"You know the evil overlord bit's played out." - Johnny
"What would you suggest?" - Shao Kahn
"Right now it's all anti-heroes." - Johnny
Is that kindness, Shao Kahn?
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I think they did Johnny dirty in MK11, not gonna lie. To be fair, his storyline also didn't make sense in mkx thanks to discovering his new powers even though he's shown using them in mk9. If he was playable in mk9 story mode and his powers were usable, then the mkx part where he mysteriously saves Sonya because of the green light doesn't make sense. I think he should've been able to always use his green glow, that way Hollywood critics thinking he's fake has another tone to it. His green glow can be spotted in his movies, which is why viewers think he uses special effects, which led him to try to prove himself in the tournament.
I think the problem should've been that he couldn't control it, also as a call back to his mk9 ending. I think it's even referenced in an intro with Raiden. "Seek out the Wu Shi for instruction."
It also would be funny if everyone else was aware of it, but only Johnny wasn't. Like they all assumed he could use the green glow out of choice, but he didn't know or notice that he would go green. The fact that it happened during fights means it would only ignite in stressful situations or on instinct. He was also wearing shades for the majority of mk9 (because he likes shades), in fact he always wears shades so I think he's the only one who didn't notice the glow.
Johnny says "Yeah, those things are real." when referring to Baraka's blades, meaning he didn't feel that they were real. I'm not sure what that means, but it gives insight to his power level. Johnny defeated Shinnok. I get that Johnny 'softens him up' but he still defeated Shinnok, so I think he should've been able to at least handle Sindel. The reason Shao Kahn was defeated in mk9 is because the Elder Gods possessed Raiden which is how Raiden defeated Shao Kahn. They nerfed Johnny's character and I am not happy about that.
Now, with his upbringing and history. I think Johnny had narcissistic parents, and depending on who he got his powers from it was an inherited narcissism (don't know which parent had the powers, someone will probably say his father but let's not assume).
I think there was taught narcissism on Johnny's behalf. The thing about growing up with narcissistic parents is that you grow up thinking that their behaviour is normal, so he must've not seen anything wrong with the behaviour he learned. We also need to take a good look at his personality. He's a bit childish in terms of maturity, and this is common in individuals who grew up with a narcissistic parent. Johnny talks as if he's a teenager rather than the average 25+ year old man. To his credit he doesn't throw tantrums or lash out when his odd behaviours are called out (unless I missed something), but dude is childish. Only lashes out when his face is even slightly ruined and even blindly attacked some Black Dragons for getting a scratch on his face. However he is also very independent, from what I know. And he's a bubbly man, even when he changed, that's a character I can appreciate. I think him and Joey from Friends would be friends, even though I haven't watched Friends to confirm this.
Morality wise Johnny doesn't have wicked intent. In his mk9 story mode he says he's not gonna kill anyone when told to kill Baraka, realising that it's not an everyday tournament. He's okay with fighting people for sport (let's establish that tournaments are basically a sport) but not killing people. The tournament is like a perverted form of kill or be killed, one Johnny was forced into participating in some form (I'm talking about the killing and fighting for Earthrealm part). I don't think Johnny likes killing people or anything dead related. In mkx story mode he rolls a head off the helicopter in a fit of heeby jeebies and disgust.
"Have you killed anyone?" - Terminator
"Yeah, but they were all bad." - Johnny
"Why make that distinction?" - Terminator
Like a rationale of what he's experiencing.
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"Discard your jesters mask." - Kotal Kahn
"What you see is what you get, Feather Head." - Johnny
"I thought you merely played the fool." - Kotal Kahn
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"You revel in childishness." - Kotal Kahn
"Gotta stay sane somehow." - Johnny
"How are you a warrior?" - Kotal Kahn
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"He was insufferable. Just like you." says Fujin about Johnny's great-great grandfather. Dude might've been a mega narcissist. Narcissism is taught and learned. Another example would be old Johnny and young Johnny: 
Young Johnny - "Dad always said "Hungry people eat lunch, humble people serve it."
Older Johnny "Dad was an a**hole, Hollywood made us an even bigger one."
So based on those facts alone, Johnny comes from a long generation of egotistical people. Then we have Hollywood. I think Johnny got into Hollywood not just because of creative thinking, but I think there's also a sense of longing there. Narcissistic parents, ignore, abandon and degrade their children. Along with making movies being a hyper fixation, their abandonment played a part in his need for spotlight. Johnny divorcing Sonya for her neglect might be more personal because it was a reminder of his parents.
I heard that there's a lot of narcissists in Hollywood, so with Johnny surrounding himself with people like that...(yikes!) The thing with narcissists is that they are always out for themselves. An autistic person struggles with social interactions, while a narcissist will manipulate the social interaction. Johnny (and Kung Lao) doesn't do that. He very much cares about the people around him and doesn't see them as tools.
Now back to his family.
"Grandma Carlton told you my secret?" - Johnny
"(Snicker) Johnny pee pants?" - Cassie
"I had one accident! One!" - Johnny
Judging from how Johnny both asked the question and responded, I theorise it came from a place of trauma. For his mother to tell Cassie the story as if it's a funny story and give him a nickname is suspicious. I think I already mentioned this in another post but I would like to elaborate. Me personally, I don't think anyone pissing themselves is a laughing matter. People don't piss themselves for no reason, or at least most people don't. Humiliating their child is a narcissist's past time. While his mother may not have played a part in humiliating him, she still found it funny enough to tell Cassie, who also for some reason found it funny.
(I have mixed opinions on Cassie and I might get in on her in another post. I don't know how many of these I'll be making.)
Going back to the interactions between young and older Johnny, I think older Johnny hates his younger self. Movie making is something Johnny loved, cash grab or not creative thinkers like doing creative things. 
I think I mentioned in another post that it's something he learned, so I'll like to continue that theory. Johnny wasn't that much of a bad person, sure he has flaws, but he's not evil or anything. So older Johnny's reaction to his younger self eagerly trying to convince him to make movies and stuff was kind of unnerving. 
It should've been something he could smile fondly at, but instead he reacts as if his passion has been beaten out of him. He finds his younger self annoying, just like everyone else. Everyone else = Sonya, Jax, and pretty much everyone else. As a person who likes coming up with stories and wants those stories to be known, I feel crushed by this conclusion of analysis. Poor Johnny.
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Another fact about Neurodivergent people is that no matter what they will always be the same person no matter how much their opinions and belief change overtime, they will still have the same personality. Johnny still likes making his jokes and still gives people nicknames, but he lacks creativity in creating things. I guess applying his need for action into training the Kombat kids and working with the Special Forces counts as a slight change.
I'm coming close to an end so I'll sum it up by saying that Johnny shouldn't have got back together with Sonya. I don't ship them and I'm making it clear that I hate them together. Even before mk11 I thought the ship didn't make sense and it needs to be a character that doesn't tolerate him but actually enjoys his company from the beginning. It took me everything not to write that Johnny is a national treasure that should be protected.
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feralsimp2005 · 5 months
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I was on Reddit cause there's other "nerds" I can infodump and be autistic to and I came across this post
And if this fucking side by side photo of Johnny Cage wearing a fucking outfit prove he's not Neurodivergent/Autistic/Adhd/AuHD idfk what is
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I just thought he was mainly riddled with ADHD cause him and my boyfriend irl act so similar which my boyfriend has ADHD and thinks he's cool while I simp for Johnny Cage
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scaryspears · 11 months
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Neurodivergent Johnny Cage headcanons and theory
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Hear me out, since there's a lot of people who don't like him.
I'm going to headcanon Johnny on the spectrum.
I believe Johnny was fully aware of what was going on around him regarding the tournament, but his upbeat personality is either a coping mechanism or is just his way of communicating. I genuinely think the guy likes thinking positively but he's surrounded by negativity (for obvious reasons). I'm pretty sure he stumbled into the tournament thinking it's a fight where people are dressed up for comic con related reasons and then got roped into what was actually happening and was like "Welp, I guess I'm doing this now." I don't think he was prepared to be dealing with people who could get easily angered.
However, he sometimes shows the inability to read the room and accidentally says something offensive. Or somehow offends people even though he means no harm. I'm sure his intentions are simply to be fun and playful, even towards his enemies, and I think that's beautiful.
Something I found out is an neurodivergent trait is being sarcastic but everyone thinks you're being 100% serious. I tend to joke a lot but people think I'm being literal even though I made my voice and tone sound playful. I also think his ego is just him being confident. If it is vanity then it's giving popular girl vibes, and I think that's lovely. I think future Johnny's dislike towards his younger self is actually a form of self loathing because of learning what's okay and not okay overtime. The other side is due to the influence of others, since they have a lot of negative things to say about him and to him.
It's quite obvious that compared to everyone else he's not very good at socialising. Something his older self learns to be better at, but his difference in communication still shows. He's still the same Johnny, just a lot more restraint and responsibility.
Showing interest in creative related stuff, such as acting. That counts as a check, right? Speaking as a person who was interested in theatre.
Lack of interest in training? Could be the need to procrastinate until he's very close to the due date. Like chronic procrastination. We learn about Johnny's lack of training through his intro with Raiden.
Also, is bro not allowed to show that he finds someone attractive or interested in them? Dudes being straight up honest about how he feels.
"We come from different worlds, Johnny." - Liu Kang
"Aren't you from Earthrealm, too?" - Johnny
"I mean I come from the real world." - Liu Kang
The sense of otherness and the random bullying.
"Why wasn't I your chosen one?" - Johnny
"Do you have all day, Johnny Cage?" - Raiden
"Yeah. I do." - Johnny
I feel you Johnny. That sense of exclusion.
"Stop reaching for my hat, Johnny." - Kung Lao
"You hiding a rabbit in there or not?" - Johnny
"Only my friends know for sure." - Kung Lao
Difficulties with social boundaries
Conversational self restraint problems
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