you know what's funny about the "dean is always defensive about being called gay bc he is so very repressed" crowd is that at least two times he IS very comfortable with being perceived as gay to the point where he's the one who doubles down on the assumption. but those two times happened to be when ppl assumed he was in love with sam. so do with that what you will.
it's so funny to me that caleb and veth really did just trade off the job of intensely pining for the other at like the halfway point of the campaign. like, imo, nott in the early days did not behave in any real romantic or even romance-adjacent ways toward him--I imagine it would be very hard to even think in that way when you hate what you look like so much, have such low self-esteem, and are actively lying about your entire past, including a secret husband. caleb, on the other hand, is kind of diving directly back into the sort of relationship he had with astrid and eadwulf. very close, very intimate, we-huddled-for-warmth-together-and-oops-it-led-to-something-else sort of thing. he is the one who expresses that he's fine with it if people think he and nott are romantically together when they're talking to keg. nott is the one who pushes back on that. he calls her his life partner. unknowingly, he compares his feelings for nott to nott's feelings for yeza. his behavior only really starts to change after he finds out about veth's husband because suddenly all of that other stuff is rendered inappropriate in retrospect. but even then he compliments her to yeza over dinner in the most awkward of ways, he admits to being jealous, he calls yeza "a lucky man" to have her, he stares at veth and yeza closed bedroom door for far too long, he creates an entire arcane tower with room for her family just so she'll stay with him. in general, his behavior is not, um, totally and completely platonic about it, you know?
like, veth's feelings for caleb are canonical and therefore indisputable in their existence, but caleb in the early days was not that dissimilar to how veth was acting near the end of the campaign. it really paints a picture of "right person, wrong time" in the way things just didn't line up for them. or, as veth would say: "in another world, maybe"
Laes really does not stop breaking our hearts, eh?
Earth's words especially struck a cord of me.
Eclipse feels like he's never been in control, because he wasn't.
He was abandoned by old Moon.
In both their heads, he was the problem.
Every single day he had to watch through Sun's eyes, as another him got to live the life he wanted.
And even that wasn't enough for old Moon, considering the star exists.
And once it all got too much, he decided to take control, and even then he felt rejected.
He made himself his own brother, but never actually got close to him, because he was afraid of being abandoned again.
And he was, but this time, the problem was himself.
The only time he really had control was, when he got that damn star, and even then, he couldn't do anything.
He didn't know what he wanted anymore, this grand dream suddenly didn't feel worth it anymore…
And even now he's not in control!
He thought, he could at least rest in death, but not even that is given to him!
My damn heart can't take this…
-Stardust
RIGHT??? RIGHTTTTTT?????? 😭😭😭
ECLIPSE HAS LITERALLY NEVER BEEN IN CONTROL AND IT KILLS MEEEEE.....
From body to body, losing person after person, and now being brought back every time he dies??? It's so insanely sad to me that, even during his most "in control" moments, he isn't really. Like you said, with the star he ended up not knowing what he wanted to do anymore and it started to gnaw at him from the inside out!! During the october takeover, even though he had Lunar under his thumb, the bodies they had weren't theirs!! It's so fucked up!!!!
I wish Eclipse wasn't so terribly emotionally constipated bc holy shit I would have adored to have that touched on more. Even through all his walls and masks and edge, he told Earth that waking up outside his own body was "horrifying" and that just gutted me. And what gutted me even more is that when Earth sympathized with him he just totally backpedaled!!!
He was almost, like, embarrassed at having said anything even remotely honest! Like he opened up the tiniest bit and it wasn't handled in a way he liked so he immediately shut it back down.
He drives me up the WALLS I love him so much. He's like the trauma and issues georg of the show 2 me </3
(U don't have to publish this) Just wondering if you've seen this atrocity that's making the rounds recently https://www.tumblr.com/gift-of-prophecy/731700689410064384 I don't bother with Destiel shippers but this is like, actually offensive to Dean. Lol What do you think?
This is what that post said:
"anyways my biggest proof that dean was trying to get out of heaven is when you watch Dark Side of the Moon and Cas tells him that the way he can get out of the personal heaven they lock him in is to get in his car and follow the road. and what’s the first thing dean does when he gets to “heaven” in 15x20…?"
Anon you're so right. What the hell is this take. I respect people's headcanons, have fun and all that, but stating this as a fact is crazy when it's just simply... not true.
But the funniest thing is that that moment they're referring to in Dark Side of the Moon proves the opposite of what they're saying - Dean wasn't looking for a way out, he was looking for Sam.
The first thing he thinks of when he realizes he's in heaven is where is Sam and how can I get to him.
This ties in beautifully with 15x20. When Dean learns he's in a literally perfect heaven, he says: "It's almost perfect". Because Sam is not there with him. And then this happens:
So, just like in Dark Side of the Moon, he gets in the impala hoping, knowing, the road will lead him to Sam. Because that's all he wants. Even in heaven that's all he wants.
(This reminded me of this edit that parallels precisely these two scenes)