#secunity

[ihasafandom]

(this is the third time I've had to write this up, with significant time inbetween ＞﹏＜) So!

A bit more in-depth primer:

Moirallegiance, pale romance, or diamonds is a debateably romantic but non-sexual intimate relationship.

It can be presented as somewhat asymmetrical, with one partner being soft and gentle and calming and the other being big and harsh and protecting, but that's not necessarily the case, depending on the relationship and the headcanon: it can just as easily have both parties in both or blended roles.

The emotion stated as being the base for mairallegiance ♦ (and matespritship ♥) is "pity," as opposed to "hate" as the base for the other quadrants in the set: kismesissitude ♠ and auspisticism ♣.

The fanon understanding of moirallegiance is a bit broader than the canon text gives us, generally involving at least a few of the following:

a type of pity that moves you to help or coddle them rather than cull them

emotional intimacy/vulnerability

physical (but not sexual) intimacy/vulnerability

knowing and understanding your partner better than anyone else (including themselves)

balancing your partner (either changing their balance with your presence or being their counterpoint as a unit)

being their complementary opposite

compensating for their weaknesses

calm, soft, gentle, safe feelings

physical/mental/emotional caretaking

being kind of a therapist to them

knowing (truly) what they need to be healthy and/or to improve

being trusted to make the best decisions for them (especially when they are compromised, like in a medical situation)

being the one to take responsibility for their actions/behaviour (especially when they are compromised/otherwise can't be)

being responsible for their mental, emotional, and physical health

being their last defense between them and the world/the world and them

being the one responsible for bringing them down if they go out of control (for their own sake), whether that's calming them down, taking them down, or killing them outright

feeling for them instead of fearing them when they're being scary

protecting them from themselves and the world

being the only one they will open themselves up to

being trusted with them at their weakest and worst and most disgusting/disturbing/embarrassing

emotional/physical support

knowing when and how to push to get them out of their comfort zone and making strives towards productivity/improvement/etc

I tend to think of it from an evolutionary standpoint where ♠ and ♥ relationships are for the genetic component (♥ to get the rare gem back into the genepool from an otherwise dead end and ♠ to perpetuate the best of the best), and ♣ is about keeping a relative peace and stopping fights and such on a social level, ♦ is for the individual component: keeping your partner alive and making them the best they can be on an individual level.

In any case, ART and Mensah definitely both perform many of these functions for SecUnit, and vice-versa, and I definitely ship them both with it heavily in diamonds, especially ART.

So all I know about Homestuck I've osmosed from being on the internet, whereas you've actually read the thing, so I would love to get an expert opinion: I've been thinking Murderbot and Mensah are moirails. Do I have my pale shipping goggles on sideways? I would love to hear any thoughts you have to share about a Murderbot and ART moirailegence!

!!!!!!!!! *excited happy flapping* I would love to infodump about connections between the two things I’m currently special-interest-ing on, thank you.  (This got really long, whoops.  The short answer is “yes, I think both Mensah and ART are Murderbot’s moirails.”)

Okay, so, moirallegiance in Homestuck is a kind of relationship meant for people in a really violent society.  One partner is supposed to pacify the other.  From the comic:

A reasonable human translation would be the concept of a soul mate, but in a more platonic sense, and with a more specific social purpose.

Trolls are a very angry and violent race. Some are more hot-tempered and dangerous than others, to the extent that if left to their own devices, they would present a serious threat to society, or even to themselves. Such trolls will have an instinctive pale attraction to a more even-tempered troll, who may become their MOIRAIL. The moirail is obliged to pacify the other, to function as the better half. The two partners in a strong pale relationship will serve to balance and complement each other's emotional profiles, and thus allow their other relationships to be more successful.

The more dangerous partner also tends to protect the pacifying one.

A lot of people in the Homestuck fandom use a looser definition of moirallegiance, where it’s less lopsided and there doesn’t have to be a one-dangerous-person-and-one-calming-one dynamic.  Basically just queerplatonic partners.  I think both Murderbot/Mensah and Murderbot/ART fit into the official definition, though!  From Network Effect:

I could say it was an accident, I’d meant to take him prisoner and he had tried to get away and— 

Dr. Mensah would never believe that. My accidents were spectacular and usually involved me losing a big chunk of my organic tissue or something; she knew I could stop a human without hurting them, without even leaving a bruise, that was my stupid job. 

She would never trust me again. She would never stand close enough to touch (but without touching, because touching is gross) and just trust me. Or maybe she would, but it wouldn’t be the same. 

Fuck, fuck everything, fuck this, fuck me especially. 

I opened a secure comm contact to Mensah and Senior Officer Indah and said, “I’ve caught a GrayCris agent in the Port temp housing block.”

Dr. Mensah wasn’t even there and that guy wouldn’t be alive without her.  And from Exit Strategy:

I could take over the ship’s SecSystem before this human with the temptingly large familiar projectile weapon could blink. I could get that weapon before that human could blink. I wanted to do it, and it bled through into the feed.

Mensah turned, gripped the collar of my jacket with both hands, and said, “No.”

(...)

I sent, You have no idea what I am.

She tilted her head and looked more mad. I know exactly what you are. You’re afraid, you’re hurt, and you need to calm the fuck down so we can get through this situation alive.

I said, I am calm. You need to be calm, to take over a gunship.

Mensah’s eyes narrowed. Security consultants don’t get their clients into unnecessary pitched battles for control of their rescue ship. She added, Because that would be stupid.

She wasn’t afraid of me. And it hit me that I didn’t want that to change. She had just been through a traumatic experience, and I was making it worse. Something was overwhelming me, and it wasn’t the familiar wave of not-caring.

Fine, I sent. I sounded sulky, because I was sulky.

I hate emotions.

“Good,” she said aloud.

That’s... heavily reminiscent of the Karkat and Gamzee scene (arguably the most important portrayal of moirallegience in Homestuck).  And obviously Murderbot protects her.  Yeah, they’re moirails.  :D

Murderbot and ART don’t fit quite as easily into the comic’s definition of moirallegiance.  I thought at first that ART would be the dangerous one.  I mean, it is dangerous.  (They both are.)  But Murderbot’s usually the one who needs to be calmed down and kept from going through with its bad ideas.  There’s this (from Network Effect):

I was desperate. I sent privately, ART, tell them I need to go alone. Back me up. 

ART said aloud, I concur, it will be safer if SecUnit is accompanied by two certified survey specialists. 

Why am I even surprised. I sent privately again, ART, you asshole. 

ART replied, only to me, It is safer. I’ve lost my crew, I won’t lose you. 

Amena said, not helpfully, “Your face just got really weird. Are you all right?” 

No, it was confusing. I was confused.

And while Murderbot 2.0 did end up happening, ART was against it until it was absolutely necessary.

I do think Murderbot and ART could be considered moirails!  Especially if you use the looser definition that’s basically QPPs.  Still, I like “mutual administrative assistants” better than anything else for their relationship.  :D

I hope that answered your question!  Sorry about how long it got.  (Wow, I wish I could use this energy for things that aren’t my special interests.)

[rosewind2007]

There is no perfect card for a rogue SecUn…

Oh…

Ooooh!

[srtatropicalia]

So, I'm thinking of going back into writing and I had a brilliant idea just when I was about to fall asleep: batfamily and murderbot fusion. More specifically Tim Drake in a murderbot AU. Will include enemies to friends to lovers jaytim.

My idea is, Tim is a specially designed secunit, made by the Drake Industries to spy and infiltrate and protect Janet and Jack. He poses as their son and his identity as a secunity is not public knowledge. He follows Gotham's vigilantees through hacked security cameras and hacks his government module as soon as he self realizes as a person, really.

Gotham is one of the most dangerous space stations in corporate space. Lots of very hostile corporations have centrals there, including Wayne Enterprises, Drake Industries, Joker's & co., etc. Lots of batman villains are there as terrorists against the corporate system, while bruce himself tries to fight the system while staying mostly inside it. This will be a point of contention in the plot.

So, we follow Tim through the Jason Todd returns as Red Hood arc. Tim is acting as Robin while still working for the Drakes (possible because the drakes travel 90% of the time, as usual). Tim's still not in a safe space, though, because Bruce is destroyed after Jason's death and Dick is low contact. Tim is not directly mistreated, but it's like he's serving a function: he thinks of himself as a machine serving a purpose, he's the substitute of Jason Todd and can never compare, but he can try and do good for the people he has watched and loved for a long time.

Maybe I'll write some scenes of Tim from before as flashbacks: watching through the cameras and taking screen shots of batman, having a puppy crush on Jason Todd and stopping himself from stalking him bc he realises it's creepy. The Drakes' mistreatment of him. Jason's death.

Jason survived the explosion because he was forcibly brought back to life with augments by the Assassin's League tech. His body is half machine and he's super unconfortable with that. His humanity was one of the only aspects he could feel was worth something in the cutthroat and crual corporate rim. At least humans are superior to machines, but now he is mostly machine. Who can garantee he's not a machine impostor?

So Jason comes back and he literally tortures and kills Tim in the titan's tower; Tim only survives because he's a construct and is difficult to kill. Then Jason realises that Tim is a secunity, and his own prejudices against constructs start to act up. At the end of the day, Jason lived his whole life in corporate space and is not impermeable to propaganda. Plus, his own self hate against his machine body manifests itself as not thinking of Tim as human.

As usual, Tim was star struck with Jason, and feels the mistreatment is justified; because he's a machine. He doesn't have feelings. He's just there to help. But progressively, as Dick gets closer and he starts making more friends in the Titan's (as a reaction to his destruction). And then he starts to internalize that he deserves to be threated nicely and his hero worship of Jason flies ot the window. He starts to stand up for himself and Jason starts to question the stuff he grew up thinking.

Maybe this all happens through the course of a case fic, some investigation of other. I really don't like to write the joker but maybe another villain? Idk. I'm really exited for it, though.

Feel welcome to throw some ideas at me!

[eazy-peazy54]

secun deez nuts

[luxlightly]

If you're not going to hit the "Laudete eum secun dum multi" AS HARD AS FUCKING HELL then why are you even singing Salmo 150??? It drives me insane. It's so hard to find good recordings of choir songs and the ones I can find are like "oh, all of the voice parts are coming together in this crazy intense moment? Better not change the volume or intensity of the singing in any way. Sforzato? Never heard of her. Crescendos? In a GOSPEL piece? Nononono that would be far too interesting. Also do you want this whole song in staccato for no reason? Why is my high school choir recording from 2009 still the best versions of any of these songs that I can find?

[carealotcuddles]

Im da secun wun :(. An da fiwteenf!

Shoutout to

regressors who can't afford gear

regressors who are too scared to buy gear

regressors who buy impulsively

regressors who need a treat in each store visit

closeted regressors still discovering themselves

regressors who don't have anyone for support so they support themselves

regressors who only regress in their head because they're scared/ashamed/embarrased/etc

regressors who are ashamed of their regression. Your feelings are valid but you deserve the comfort you need c:

regressors with f/os! They love you dearly!

regressors without a serious reason to regress other than to have fun in their grown-up life

regressors whose gear isn't picture perfect!

regressors who make their own gear!

regressors whose comfort shows aren't from 00/10/20s!

regressors who thrift their gear! How sustainable!

[secun]

The people that know me irl and me Secun I can count on my fingers and 5 of those is the government

i think kids online should really get back to making internetsonas instead of whatever fuckshit this is with putting their entire real faces, names, ages, and such everywhere. you're not gonna realize how nice internet privacy is until you dont have it anymore and no chance at getting it back. make up a guy and a name and just be that online. make up conflicting details about your completely made up backstory. make a fursona or something

[qubixo1]

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[mary9777]

Una nueva conducta... ^^ y si a nosotras nos precuntamos en el inglés...??

@mary9777 - your name was tweek, right friend my dear Kit Casey @tweekamami - yes... How do you know my name is as real as that of my times @mary9777 - Of course love, don't worry about that... what year were you born? @tweekamami - I was born in 2024 (tweek jokes with Mary) @mary9777 - For God's sake, friend, are you still a baby or what happened to you? 🤣🤣🤣 @tweekamami - It's not true, it's a joke, I was born in 2008 and what year were you born? 🤨 @mary9777 - I was born since 1998....^^ @tweekamami - oh okay... You are still an adult, before you were a secun teenager and now you are young. @mary9777 - The reality is that I am already young. Before, I was big at school and I grew up again when I was young. @tweekamami - I can tell you something about... I can speak Latin Spanish translated, Mary? @mary9777 - Yes. @tweekamami - Hola Mari... que tal tu día de rutina de belleza @mary9777 - yo igual bien amiga...😊👍 un momento la belleza significa ''Estetica'' a caso que mi cabello me va cortar 😰😰 @tweekamami - No amiga... no dije cortarse el pelo pero solo dije rutina de belleza @mary9777 - A entiendo... Tengo de mis exitos sociales tengo youtube y soundcloud. emm... también Vimeo @tweekamami - Ah enserio? yo tengo un igual que ami pues en DeviantArt y Youtube, todo eso tengo sociales del mismo que tú, Mary 😉🥞🍭 @mary9777 - OK 🥰🥰🥰

[alex51324]

They could come up with some variant that would sound like a human name.

Unita

Seccu

Secun

Roberta Murdera

You get the drift.

secunit would be a beautiful name for a baby girl

[corazondecantinero]

Razones para que no me guste la chica que me gusta.

1. Es blanca blanca como huevo

2. Seguro que cuando se ponga tacones le voy a llegar al cuello.

3. Es muy similar a mi.

4.Es una excelente imitadora de la voz de personas, hasta actúa y les inventa diálogos y todo.

5.Usa expresiones como "estoy acostumbrada a cosas bonitas" y "jamás he rogado a nadie”

5. En la secun usaba su falda hasta los tobillos y aveces la combinaba con un chaleco del mismo azul marino

6. Tiene mil ex novios

7. Tarda horas en contestar un mensaje y aveces contesta puras incoherencias que no tienen que ver con lo que yo mandé.

8.

8. Frecuentaba antros a los veintitantos años. Antros

fresas a los que hay que ir de camisa.

9. Llora cuando vemos alguna pelicula que trate el tema del holocausto

10. Cuando me vio caerme saliendo de una fiesta de noche soltó una carcajada.

Bonus (como si hiciera falta): Me toca con cuidado y miedo, como si pudiera romperme. Es como una adolescente temblorosa e infantil.

La mujer es un horror.

Y me encanta. Me encanta. Me encanta.

Así es esto de la enfermedad.

[lamanitanegra]

12 de octubre

un día insípido le quiero salvar provecho a las dos caguamas que me bebo escribiendo , ya se que mañana tendré una cruda del diablo ,

fue un día horrible, me espejeo con un ser depresivo doliente que tiene sus sentires a flor de piel y lo entiendo, lo abrazaría y le diría te entiendo pero eso al final del día no le serviría porque igual despertaría sintiendo un dolor físico y emocional .

en fin siempre me acordare de la secun escuchando Vago, que buenos tiempos "que no les pase lo que a un pendejo"