I don’t think the harassment is acceptable. I think people are really out of pocket doing that, but I do think him establishing what is and isn’t part of his job is fine. And maybe did need to be said, because clearly people didn’t know.
As for using Buddie as promo… idk. The marketing team is gonna do whatever ABC feels will garner the most viewers, and right now it’s Buck being bi and the long held desire to see him and Eddie become canon. They’re gonna milk it however they can, which falls back on Tim, thus him feelings like he needed to explain himself, presumably.
I do agree it could be toned down though, because Buck is now canonically dating someone else, and I don’t recall them teasing Buddie for real when he was with women. So doing it now the way they are is purely because they’re banking on Buddie fans, while also currently not committing.
Plus, everything Buddie related from before has to now be assumed not canon, so it’s putting everyone in a messy spot. Because we have canon, fanon, show runner confirmed but not on screen, and canon jokes that are now floating in the in between because no one knows if the they’ll be acknowledged in canon or get scrapped.
I think people should just calm down and wait to see what the season brings, anyway. Once it’s over and we get an idea of where all the characters are at, then start asking bigger questions or letting out the more angry frustrations.
Hi! Sorry for the late reply. The sheer amount of work that goes into television hasn't often been well realized in fan spaces. The writing, how it translates to screen, the process of acting, all the work by the crew, the pressures from moneymen, managing the expectations of the audience, the long hours and repetition of scenes. How multiple people working on a creative project means multiple interpretations— all of which bleed through. The showrunner has every right to protect himself and the people who work for him. I was mainly trying to draw on my own experiences in how these harassment campaigns happen, how they continue, and how they can be mitigated.
US TV production has a long and rocky history when it comes to queer narratives. That doesn't really end now that there are canonically queer characters on screen and this fallout is part of the response to that tension.
For example, if I engage in the whole Buddie vs. Bucktommy thing (sorry), I'd say both perspectives have a point they don't realize they're making about queerness in television storytelling.
The thesis I feel like Buddie fans are making is there are two queer coded main characters who love each other, who have seasons of build up in their individual characters and in their relationship. Why can't they be together? Because they're two male main characters on network television? Be bold, be brave. Wouldn't it be amazing if they did commit to that story? Wouldn't it be game changing? Sexuality and friendship and love is not set in stone, it's okay to be flexible. M/F relationships are allowed that space to develop within a story and you know if one of them were a woman they probably would be together already.
The thesis I feel like BuckTommy fans are making is that Buddie was never going to happen, realistically, and it's amazing enough that they committed to Buck being canonically bisexual. Why do you want to rock the boat? Don't you see that if you can't embrace this development it could be snatched away at any moment. The show is its own thing within its own context and not the blinkered interpretation you have of two characters. This queerness is canon.
Those two thesis's (thesi?) are rubbing up against each other and building straw men of the other to attack and tear down. A showrunner wading in was only ever going to combust that tension further and that's what happened. What keeps happening.
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24. “Two against one? No way!” For HEARTSTOPPER
I can just see Nick and Tao teaming up against Charlie to see ‘who’s the better tickler’
Proving a Point
~A/N ~ Here we go for another heartstopper fic!
I completely agree! I see the VISION from your MIND and I hope I conveyed it on paper properly lol.
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"You guys want anything?" Nick offered as he stood from the couch.
He was about halfway through a movie night with Charlie and Tao, which meant the snacks were in desperate need for a refill. The other two boys shook their heads, with Tao pausing the show politely to wait for Nick to return.
Innocently, Charlie shifted towards the controls and hit the play button. The act alone was probably enough to clue Tao in on Charlie's mischievous demeanor, but the cheeky grin on Charlie's face made his intent obvious.
"You in a mood today or something?" Tao quipped, undoing Charlie's menace.
While usually that alone would shut Charlie up with a blush on his face, today was not one of those days. The boy gave a sneaky laugh to himself, before reaching over to play the movie again.
This time it was Nick who caught him.
"Oi!" Nick half-chuckled, giving Charlie a soft pinch to the ribs before sitting down next to him.
Charlie yelped out a singular giggle before resting his head against his boyfriend.
"You know what really gets him?" Tao asked with a smirk. "His-"
As Tao gave his answer Nick interjected at the same time. Determined to show off his Charlie knowledge and bond with a potential ally in the 'Tickle Charlie' task.
"-armpits." //// "Hips!"
As Charlie's cheeks burned and he hid his face in his arms, Nick and Tao stared at each other. While Tao was wondering what on earth Nick was on about (cause nothing was more ticklish than Charlie's armpits), Nick was shocked at the mere idea that Tao had come to any other conclusion than Charlie's hips being his death spot.
"Do you not know about Charlie's armpits?" Tao said breathlessly.
Nick let out a noise halfway between a gasp and a scoff. "Have you never tickled Charlie's hips?"
The boy in question could feel butterflies tussling in his stomach at the talk.
"I've never had to! His armpits do the job just fine!"
"Well you're missing out, he can't handle his hips."
"Fine, I'll prove it to you!" Tao sat upright from his slouched position and pulled Charlie towards him.
"Tao wait no!" Charlie screeched with a smile.
"Not now Charlie the adults are talking." Tao shushed him, a teasing tone effortlessly slipping it's way through his words. "We'll try both spots and see which is worse."
Nick grinned with a nod. "Alright. You go first."
Tao gave an indignant look. "So you can capitalize on all my hard work? I think not."
"Guys plehehease!" Charlie giggled, squirming in Tao's hold.
"Fine, we both go at the same time." Nick offered.
Charlie's eyes widened. "Two against one? No way!"
"Works for me." Tao grinned, swiftly swapping his hands from holding Charlie's arms to squeezing under them.
Charlie squealed, kicking his legs against the couch cushions and throwing his head from side to side.
"Interesting..." Nick hummed, a sly smile on his face. "I still reckon this is worse."
As he spoke, Nick rubbed smooth circles on Charlie's hip bones. No matter how much Charlie begged or laughed, Nick let his thumb push continuously against every sensitive nerve around the joint.
Poor Charlie was already halfway to losing it at this point. His usual bubbly giggles of early-stage tickles were full blown cackles already, and it didn't look like things were going to get any easier.
"That's definitely getting to him, but if you want to make him squeak-" Tao began, maneuvering his hands lower.
"Nononono Tahao!"
"Shush Charlie, I'm trying to educate your boyfriend!"
Nick pulled a face of playful outrage while Tao began clawing against poor Charlie.
"NAHAHA TAHAHAO!" Charlie squealed, high pitched yelps breaking through his laughter.
"-you've got to go for his ribs." Tao said loudly over Charlie's desperate begging.
Nick chuckled, retracting his hands from his boyfriend's waist. "That's great and all, but I know Charlie has a real weak spot juuuust-"
"NIHIHIHICK!"
"Hey!" Nick grumbled, spidering a hand up the side of Charlie's neck playfully. "Don't interrupt me when I'm winning the argument."
Tao rolled his eyes. "Anyways, what's this about Charlie's weakness?"
Nick grinned as Charlie began begging once more. "It's riiiiight... here."
Nick let his fingers ghost under Charlie's shirt, right on that torturously sensitive spot between his bellybutton and pantline.
With the agonizing claws on his ribs, and Nick's unbearably gentle whisps against his stomach, Charlie dissolved. His energy was sapped away by the fingers of his two favourite people, and he barely had the breath left to laugh.
"Guhuhuhuys plehehease!" Charlie giggled out, gently twisting away from whichever of Tao's hands felt particularly ticklish at that moment.
"Hmmm..." Tao muttered to Nick, completely ignoring the mess beneath him. "It seems to work alright, but I still maintain my role as superior tickler."
"Tahahao!" Charlie blushed, a flustered grin plastered on his face.
"Pfft." Nick scoffed playfully. "Look at him, he's jelly beneath these hands."
To illustrate his point, he wriggled his fingers menacingly at Charlie - who practically combusted at the sight.
Finally, after an age of tickling, 'accidental' teasing, and begging, Tao and Nick released their little guinea pig and let him flop against them on the couch.
"So Charlie, who's the best tickler?" Tao smirked down, wiping some of the hair from Charlie's forehead.
Charlie giggled in response, covering his face with an arm and shaking his head.
"No answer huh?" Nick laughed. "I guess it's a draw..."
Tao nodded. "We'll have to try again next time."
Amidst the high of post-tickle bliss, Charlie felt his stomach flip at the concept of another round of torture. Yes it was absolute agony being at the mercy of the two people who know him (and his ticklishness) the best, but he also couldn't deny just how happy it made him feel.
Would he survive another session? Who knows.
But that was a problem for future Charlie.
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