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DSB WRW BLF WL RG?
#gravity falls#bill cipher#the book of bill#thisisnotawebsitedotcom#dead parents lol#traumatised triangle#silly little triangle#bill cipher is consuming my braincells#flipnote studio#flipnote#nintendo ds
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getting ready for a date with fordsy!!!! (ie chaining him down and singing to him)
#gravity falls#bill cipher#the book of bill#the book of bill spoilers#tbob#billford#im back on my bill cipher bullshit i love this gay ass loser traumatised triangle#boxy art
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I'm so glad this resurgence of Gravity Falls has resulted in the rise of Fidds/Ford and the Mystery Trio again
#bridget.txt#gravity falls#fiddauthor#I'm especially loving all the art of them older and wiser#I adore college fiddauthor but you have no idea how much I crave old men yaoi#yes yes ford fucked a triangle we've all seen that#but I love these traumatised old men
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That Olivia Loved Jake
The idea that Olivia didn’t love Jake because she never said the words is such a remarkably simple take on such a complex character that it's astounding. I’ve never been so frustrated with part of a fandom for on-the-whole missing something blatantly obvious just because it wasn’t explicitly spelled out for them. I'm not asking all of you olitzers to convert, just be willing to open your eyes, because I was an olitz fan that just saw how attached the writers were to not committing to what eventually ended up being the better option.
Disclaimer: I haven't watched the last two seasons, only looked into specific plot points, so I might have missed some small detail in a scene or episode. If there's anything that proves what I've said wrong, I would genuinely love to know!
Firstly, we’ve seen what Olivia is like when she doesn’t really care about someone she’s seeing. Edison. Russell. It’s a STARK difference. Enough said.
Secondly, I choose to believe that when Olivia chooses not to correct things that are stated, it is very relevant. Going beyond the numerous times that “Olivia loves Jake” has been thrown around (that Olivia has never once disputed), near the beginnings of Olake in 3x12 we have these moments between Olivia and Fitz where she doesn’t try to assure him that nothing serious is happening with Jake. Of course, there’s Olivia’s “Jake by my side is for me”, but they’re both amped up—especially Olivia—and it’s political. But in a quieter moment, when Fitz calmly asks her if she has feelings for Jake, all she has for him is:
[O]: “Honestly, I don’t know.”
I wouldn’t usually put much stock in it considering it’s so ambiguous, but saying that to Fitz? The island hasn't even happened yet. He’s literally the one person she should deny anything and everything to, considering he was fairly convinced at times that he was losing her to Jake, and she wasn’t exactly proving otherwise. In season 4 when she's looking for Jake, she freely claims him as her boyfriend when speaking to Quinn, and later when she calls Fitz he refers to Jake as her boyfriend and she just…doesn't correct him.
Jake too outright calls her his girlfriend to Fitz's face (after she's done everything she can to exonerate Jake + figuratively and literally threatened her relationship with Fitz by refusing to believe that Jake killed his son and her close friend based on nothing other than her faith in him, and also saying that true harm to Jake would be the end of their relationship) and she doesn't so much as shift in Fitz's direction. She is completely focused on Jake in those moments, maybe because it's the first time she hears him say that. Up until this point it's repeatedly always been:
[J]: "I'm not your boyfriend, Olivia." [O]: "I know."
Beyond that, the fact that Olivia didn’t explicitly say “I love you” to Jake doesn’t mean much in my opinion when she’s continuously demonstrated that she’s probably the biggest commitment-phobe on the show. She’ll chase the dream of love and happiness when it’s unattainable, but balks in the face of it when it’s within her reach. She does it time and time again with Fitz. She’s endlessly waiting for when they can be together, but seemingly never ready when they actually can be. Fitz himself comes to that realisation when she seems to be climbing the walls of the White House after moving in:
[F]: “Before. I was unavailable before. You liked me unavailable.”
And in another instance again:
Part of the clip’s transcript: [O]: “…so why did you do it (propose)?” [F]: “Because I love you. Because you are what I want. But obviously you don’t feel the same. Some fantasy, right?” [O]: “We’re not ready.” [F]: “You’re not ready, and you know what I think? You never will be.” [O]: “That’s not fair.” [F]: “Then answer the question, Olivia. What is it that you want?”
And when asked, she’s silent. Not because she doesn’t love him. But because for whatever reason, she can’t let herself be happy. Olivia herself knows this (points for being self-aware, I guess):
[O]: "When I was with Fitz, I was happy you [Mellie] were around too. With you around, I didn't have to…I had an out. You, you were my out, Mellie. You kept him unavailable. So I left, for the same reason you stayed. Because I was scared."
One incredible user on here @zalrb does a good job of explaining, among so many wonderful things, how there were no real obstacles to the Olitz endgame beyond Olivia herself, simply because of how often Fitz was completely committed to being with her, at which point she'd double down on something being in the way. She will go all in and be open about being in the relationship, declarations of love and all, until she actually can afford to be. Then, she turns to self-sabotage. That’s been the dynamic: Fitz pushes, and she pulls away.
And when else do we see that habit of hers in the show? Enter Jake Ballard and the relationship she can actually be in and doesn't realise she's chasing.
From the absolute start the BIGGEST difference between the relationships, romantic or otherwise, is that Jake is available. He’s present, and he can be. He and Olivia have a connection that could actually be taken further. Any moves she makes will lead to results. She’s not “stealing” any moments with him that he “should” have with someone else, they’re just…being together. She only knows him available, and progress with him probably snuck up on her as a result. Knowing her at this stage, the realer their relationship got the more scared she'd be, and she'd increasingly want to run.
[O]: "I thought we could have some dinner and talk about how our days went."
Despite this though, even when they aren’t together, they’re with each other. They're a team, a 'you and me', a 'we'. Fitz might have been her lover, but Jake was her person. They have a foundation to their relationship that stays steady, regardless of if they’re actually involved at that time or not. She confides in him. She trusts him. She brings her walls down with him. She turns to him for comfort and advice. She literally keeps her place stocked with beer just because he drinks it when he’s there. Only him. I ask this genuinely, has she ever made any attempt to accomodate literally anyone else in her life by making room for them?
[O]: "Whatever happens next, we will figure it out."
[O]: "We are very, very good together."
It’s not to say she never opens up like this with Fitz, but who else besides her "great love" is she consistently willing do this with? And not just be caught in the moment, actually initiate it, like when she actively calls Jake and opens up about them, her mother, and her associated fears about love. Let's not even get started on the number Olivia's father did on her ability to seek and accept love she doesn't need to break herself to pursue, or view as "weak" and mediocre. At one point she's actively concerned about marrying Fitz, and whether she has the ability to be "a married person", and instead of talking about it with, I dunno, Fitz himself, she calls Jake:
[O]: “I need to know what to do, you’re who I talk to.”


There's this small moment at Harrison's funeral that really struck me. She's understandably upset, and just before had been grieving Harrison's death with the rest of OPA. But throughout it, she keeps herself composed, instead acting as a rock for Abby. But once they all leave she's stuck in it for a little bit, until Jake simply reminds her that he's there with a touch, and she suddenly loses it completely, and turns to him for support. She allows him to be her rock in that moment. Truly, how often does she just surrender to someone else without it being a battle of wills, like it so often is with Fitz?
"Olivia used Jake." In a way, yes. She was definitely selfish with him, and half the time she was fighting her own defensive instincts to not get too attached. It was so unhealthy for them both for her to continually try to lean on him and keep him close, and hold herself back in often the same breath. But to say that she didn’t care about him just undermines their relationship, in all its forms. I mean, it’s not like the things she used him for were easy-breezy for her, at times it took something out of her.
Sometimes she pushes through her own walls though. I consider it such a big moment when she talks to him about her kidnapping in season 4, because I literally cannot think of a single other instance that she truly opens up about it (bonus, when she was kidnapped, who was it she pictured rescuing her?). The scene is also such a good example of her avoidant tendencies kicking in, because she stays only long enough to say her piece, be vulnerable, then is immediately gone when the recount ends (Jake literally barely says her name before she’s up and leaving).
They had a relationship that was rooted in the day to day moments, in the reality of life, and it was always reality that broke Fitz and Olivia, whose relationship comprised of ephemeral, stolen moments where they were in their own world. She not only lets herself be upset or lost in Jake’s presence (and that’s a huge concession for someone who wields confidence, control and intelligence as weapons), she lets herself be happy. In the absolute midst of another go-around with Eli, she does something we haven’t seen her do, ever: let loose, smile widely, and dance. And it’s Jake she does it with. While they BOTH are actively beefing with her father, they make a moment of joy together. And then we never see them this happy again because she’s traumatised and generally becomes colder.

So many times throughout the show, Olivia puts Fitz on the pedestal of being her great love, the one for her, she can’t be without him, and on and on. BUT throughout the show, Olivia also happens to place Jake in a position congruent to Fitz, and makes it known to BOTH of them.
[O]: “I felt something with you last night, and that feels like betrayal.” To Jake
[O]: “I know about him the way I know about you.��� To Fitz
[O]: “I want Vermont with Fitz. I also want The Sun with you.” To Jake
Not only does she group the two of them, she also establishes that some aspects of her relationship with Jake are exclusive to only them, and that no one, not even Fitz himself, can touch them. The fact that Olivia—who is always so quick to remind Jake that she loves Fitz—gets offended when Jake implies that and says:


is not talked about enough. Especially the fact that she doesn't correct his assertion to Fitz that she loves him, but chooses to correct simply referencing someone else with the sun. It’s her putting Jake and The Sun, in a position apart from everyone else (imo “another man” is an insane way to refer to the apparent love of your life, but that’s just me) in a way that almost seems she feels Jake should know better.
Fitz himself makes an observation literally just after this when she's extremely reluctant to kiss him despite them being completely alone:
[F]: "You don't want me to kiss you because of Jake. This is interesting. No, really, it is. You don't know what to do. Is it disloyal to want me or is it disloyal to want him?"
In the same way that Fitz was in the middle of her and Jake's relationship, Jake was often in the middle of her and Fitz. Ultimately though, what people (olitzers) forget is that she chose Jake. She literally makes an active decision to be with him in 5x18 when she says:
[O]: “I’m ready to be happy.”
That Olivia could admit that? Not only to herself, but to others? Keeping in mind that she started that season with Fitz? It's huge progress.
And the only reason she doesn’t go through with it is because the narrative doesn’t give her the permission to. It’s also not lost on me that the one and only time we hear her discount her feelings, actually say she doesn’t love Jake, is when she’s doing everything in her power to make him believe it so that he isn’t killed. She was devastated as she walked away, visibly sick to her stomach to have done that to Jake, and correcting his understanding was her first priority when she sees him again afterwards. It's also another time she's latched onto him when letting him go would be easier for her and Fitz, but hey.


Towards the end of the show though, the writers truly switched up or went off the deep end or started doing drugs or something, because the 5x18 erasure from the narrative and Olivia's mind was very real. There's jealousy sometimes, sure, but not the kind you'd think would follow a big decision falling through (and she's lowkey highkey always been possessive of Jake). They both stray so far from "the sun", as a pair and individually, despite how much stress they had put on standing there together. The biggest admission I can think that she ever makes to him again is in season 6, when they are far from being a couple. It's an acknowledgement that they both lost something in sacrificing their relationship:
[O]: "There has to be a reason, or else why did I do this to you? Why did I do this to myself?"

Look at the way she's looking at him. The way she always looks at him.

'Looks' are one of the biggest ways that Olivia tries to communicate with him, because so often in the place of speaking, she'll just be looking at him. And he gets it. He can read her so very easily.



I don't think anyone else in the show has the same claim to the "partner" title that Jake does, however you want to take that word. We never saw her rely on, trust and open herself up to someone quite like she did with Jake.
Whenever Olivia spoke about "standing in the sun" with Jake, she's talking about the lived experience of their fantasy. Like, yes, Olitz got the big sweeping speeches and the verbal declarations of love, the constant waxing poetic about Vermont and jam and the vague outlines of a future, but truly not the substance.
Would Fitz recognise the taste of the '94 du Bellay, or even know the name? Know what to get Olivia from Gettysburger? Has he even seen her natural hair, or her in anything close to this state of ease?


It says a lot that in order to stop Jake from being a viable option for her future, the writers wiped the closest that Olivia has come to finally settling on either of them from the narrative, basically assassinated his character and their partnership, and literally made him inaccessible to her by imprisoning only him out of everyone involved.
Yeah, all that they were and could have been haunts me.
#i'll shut up now#didn't realise it bothered me this much#late to the party#but to be fair I just got here#your honor they are in love#the love is requited they are just traumatised#doomed by the narrative#soulmates#character assassination#scandal#olitz#olake#jake ballard#olivia pope#fitzgerald grant#scandal abc#anti olitz#parallels#love triangle
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Tropes Tier Tag
tagged by @shivunin to do this tiermaker! ngl I actually had to google some of these HAHA
idk if it’s my ace brain but I just don’t seek out smutty works akddjfkdkd if a friend writes one though damn give it to me, I love to support you guys <3 as you can see I hate sad endings LOL I am easy to please
tagging: @vakarians-babe @bitchesofostwick @nabulsi @siennamain @laz-laz-ace-pilot
#tag game#this is what I get for being a fan of the hobbit#sorry no sad endings allowed#everyone can be extremely traumatised along the way#but no sad ending xx#also I think love triangles would be higher up if it was a 3 way unrequited situation#or it ends up being poly#i'm not a fan of the classic love triangle one must choose between two people
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Rewatching THG in honour of the fandoms second resurgence between Royai fics and still cannot fathom how differently Roy Mustang and Gale Hawthorne are treated because I will defend that boy until the day I die. If you’re an FMA fan who hates Gale I’m gonna need you to take a fucking seat bc WHAT???
#admittedly I haven’t read the books in years#but I genuinely will never understand the hatred of him#yes he’s done AWFUL fucking things#but he’s still a child being constantly traumatised#and just trying to HELP#idc about the love triangle
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MASTERLIST
Kyle "Gaz" Garrick
Dark Kyle
Layover in London (NSFW)
Regency Gaz
Change my mind
John Price
Seducing Price (NSFW)
Advice from Price
Layover in Liverpool (NSFW)
Headcanon
Brat daughter
All too well
Pussy inspection
Bridgerton crossover
Rodolfo Parra
Sweet as cinamon
Jealous Rudy
Alejandros sister (NSFW)
John "Soap" MacTavish
Mrs. Mac Tavish (Angst)
Sauna Soap (NSFW)
Layover in Glasgow (NSFW)
Take me to church
Simon"Ghost"Riley
Jealousy Jealousy (NSFW)
Stripclub visit (NSFW)
Speak now
Layover in Manchester (NSFW)
Regency Simon
College Ghost
Traitor
Makarov
Makarov x Price daughter
Alex Keller
work is right now in process
POLY
Mai festival
Randome headcanons
Introducing Boyfriend
Birthday Girl (NSFW)
Fighting for you
Pregnant reader
POLY 141 and how it started
POLY 141 reaction of being the father
POLY 141 if they are not the father ( Angst)
POLY 141 x postpartum Depression
POLY 141 reaction to someone flirting with them
POLY 141 Reader on period
POLY 141 When you die because of them
You're losing me
Tf141 and their kinks
POLY Tf141 wedding
Barbie Drabble
COD Porn links
Other characters
Nikto ( heavy angst)
Longer fics
The selection
Traumatised reader who is a living weapon in a team with the tf141 (pairing is not confirmed at the Moment)
Mission save the human race (NSFW)
A fanfiction about being the last Woman in the Zombie Apocalypse
Highscool Au
Nightmares become true solider
Love triangle between Cap, Kyle and Reader with Ghoap Elements and Drama Drama Drama
Other fandome
Passenger
Eddie Wells x Reader
#cod#cod mw2#cod mwii#cod x reader#call of duty#tf 141#tf 141 x reader#captain john price#john price#smut#ghost fanfiction#simon ghost riley#rodolfo rudy parra x reader#soap x reader#kyle gaz x reader#price x reader#makarov x you#makarov x reader#alejandro x reader#captain price mw2#soap mw2#gaz x reader#kyle gaz garrick#rudy cod#ghost fanfic#ghost cod#soapghost#soap cod#captain price#call of duty modern warfare
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How Stan+Ford+Bill refer to each other
Stan
Ford:
Childhood: Stanley (9)
Teen: Stan (2)
Pre-Portal: Stanley (15), my brother (5), S (2)
Post-Portal: Stanley (33), Stan (13), my brother (7), my hotheaded brother, idiot (2), knucklehead, [Dipper's] uncle Stan, hero, stubborn mullet-haired frostbitten vagabond, wrinkly carnival barker, irresponsible shortcut-loving overgrown child, cheater, fraud, "looks like me if I gave up on life"
Post-Weirdmageddon: Stanley (16), Stan (5), my brother (2), Stanley Pines, hero (2), the man who saved the world, "selfish jerk", the most selfless man I’ve ever met in any dimension
Lost Pages: S (5), Stanley (4), my brother (3)
(S is a pre-portal incident Journal only thing + pre-portal incident Journals only has "Stanley" mentioned in code, tends to call him Stan when talking to the kids)
Bill:
Pre-Weirdmageddon: Stan Pines, Stan (6), old man, [D+M's] uncle, you idiot, Stanley
Post-Weirdmageddon: Stanley (7), Stan (10), Stanley Pines (2), fat grandpa, fumbling idiot con man, weaker copy of Sixer, Bootleg Sixer, mouth breathing carnival barker, gambler, lifelong loser, goofus, PTSD Barnum, side character, co-dependent, stupid, tacky, smug, unworthy, resume-inflating cheap trick loving past-denying overgrown child, pathetic excuse for a 5-sensed three-dimensional one-life spanned skin puppet, carbon-copy of a better genetic duplicate, conman clown, Lucky Stan
Non-canon shorts/Reddit AMA/That cut perpetual machine nightmare: Stan, Stanley, Stan Pines, slick
Lost Pages: inferior clone, brother (when pretending to be Ford)
(Most of the post-Weirdmageddon Stan mentions are for the "fun" facts in the Wheel of Shame, Bill spends the How not to Draw short never directly acknowledging Stan which I find hilarious)
Ford
Stan:
Childhood: Sixer (5), Stanford, Ford, Poindexter, bro, buddy
Teen: Sixer, Stanford (2), nerd robot
Pre-Portal: Stanford (5), pal, you jerk
Post-Portal: Stanford (3), Ford (8), Poindexter (2), my brother (11), brother, bro, the Author of the Journals, you ungrateful-, my nerdy twin brother, my dumb brother, know-it-all, dangerous-know-it-all, world's nerdiest old man, show-off, that jerk, stuck up son of a gun
Post-Weirdmageddon: Sixer (5), Ford (3), my brother (5), Stanford, Fordsy, bro, my nerdy bro, Brainiac, Mr Goody Nerd-Shoes
(Tends to use "Stanford" when shit's serious, yes i'm including the two getting traumatised by thrist comments clip come and stop me)
Bill:
Pre-betrayal: Sixer (2), Stanford, smart guy, Stanford Pines
Post-betrayal: Sixer (5), Stanford (2), Ford (4), Stanford Filbrick Pines, Stanford Pines, ol' Six-Fingers (2), Fordsy (2), my old pal, IQ, Mr Brainiac, Brainiac (2), [Mabel's] uncle, our friend, old man, kid, tough guy, pal, Mr Serious
Post-Weirdmageddon: Sixer (20), Ford (7), Fordsy (2), drama queen, fella, sad nerd, genius, idiot, partner, Mr Tabletop Gaming, backstabber, gallant, perfect pawn, pet human
Lost Pages: Sixer (7), Fordsy, Slick, pal, my old pal, my property
Bill
Stan:
Pre-Weirdmageddon: Bill (3), all-powerful space demon, you one-eyed demon, wise-guy
Post-Weirdmageddon: Bill (3), Bill Cipher, little wise guy, Pointy, jerk of the week, narc
Non-canon shorts/That cut perpetual machine nightmare: you creepy triangle, guy (3), nacho, cop
Ford:
Pre-betrayal: My Muse (19), a strange being from a higher plane, being (3), strange whimsical creature, true friend, Bill (2, however!! this is from Dreamscaperers long before J3 was properly written)
Post-betrayal: Bill (default way of referring to him), My "muse" (3) Bill Cipher (10), Cipher (10), the demon (2), my enemy (3), you insane three sided--, The Beast with Just One Eye, the devil, liar, monster, angular psychopath, nightmare in disguise, king of nightmares, the Triangle, a has-been, a needy theater kid
Lost Pages: Bill (17), my Muse (11), Cipher (18) , Bill Cipher (2), extradimensional deity of knowledge, Cill Bipher, this Bill guy
#uh don't tag this as any type of ship pls thanks#anyway know that im mx 'always sobbing over stan reclaiming the childhood nickname bill tried ruining for them'#yeah i definitely missed some and messed up the numbers but whatever#i will continue to half arse things!!!!#gravity falls#stan pines#stanley pines#ford pines#stanford pines#bill cipher#a bunch of these were said sarcastically but eh can't be bothered checking which ones#the lost pages are in the separate category cos i still find them sketchy as hell#lp!ford flip flopping between using s and stanley is real weird#especially when him calling him 's' and mcgucket 'f' is to keep them anonymous#since ford no longer keeps that up post portal#lp!ford calling bill by name before the betrayal too#wait does stan only call ford poindexter 3 times???#felt like he said that way more lmao#....there's a very real possibility that i'd have to update this for chibiverse stuff#......dunno what to feel about that tbh ashdksajdhak#was this post mostly an excuse to compile insults? yeah#(...and maybe cos i dont care for the lee hc kashdksjahd)
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In Defense of Cassie Hobbes
Cassie Hobbes is so underrated in her own book series.
Everyone is always talking about the love triangle but never talk about Cassie's individual character.
They'll talk about everyone's else's traumatic backstories but never mention how Cassie had found her own mother's murder scene and spent years not knowing what happened to her. They'll just say that Cassie wasn't as traumatised as the other Naturals, so her pain isn't as valid.
They'll talk about how Cassie was being rude to Michael for not answering his question at the end of Killer Instinct, but fail to mention how Michael only cared about her getting with Dean and not that she'd almost been killed. They'll just say that she was being a "bitch" for not picking him when he could've been so good to her.
It's rarely brought up how, when her "mother's body" was found, Lia (not slander) told her to not make a big deal about it because it "wasn't her turn" to be having issues. The person Cassie had been searching for was "found dead" and she was practically told to just "suck it up".
And even after finding out her mother was still alive, and being held captive by a murderous cult, Cassie ended up having to kill her just so she'd be free. The person Cassie had been searching for, thought had died, found out was alive, still ended up losing her in the end.
And yet, people will tell you that Cassie Hobbes is nothing more than a "whiny bitch" who couldn't pick between two boys. But when she did, it wasn't the boy they preferred, so they still hated on her for picking the "wrong" option.
Cassie Hobbes is not a "whiny bitch" who was mean for not choosing Michael. She's a strong-willed person who'd been traumatised from her mother's disappearance and joined the Naturals program in hopes of finding her/helping others so they didn't experience the pain she went through with her mother's disappearance.
Her pain was just as valid as the others in the program. Don't downplay it just because you personally don't think she suffered like everyone else. EVERYONE in the program had experienced something traumatic, and downplaying any of them is just terrible.
All in all, I love Cassie with my whole heart. She's a brave person who, despite everything she went through in the series, still managed to be a compassionate, loving person. All she wanted was the best for those around her. She's not the evil person that people make her out to be.
Love you, Cassie Hobbes <333
#the naturals series#jennifer lynn barnes#cassie hobbes#dean redding#lia zhang#michael townsend#sloane tavish#jlb#the naturals#cassie x dean
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my biggest cure to Byler doubt is the simple fact that if Byler wasn’t supposed to be endgame, the writers would’ve undoubtedly given Will a love interest in S3/S4. if he ends up getting his heart broken in the last season by Mike, they just wrote a story about a closeted kid who is traumatised, has been possessed, abused mentally/physically, bullied, called slurs, hopelessly in love with his best friend who has a girlfriend, and doesn’t end up getting the boy in the end.
why would the writers/directors insist so much on this love triangle, just so that in the end, the straight couple ends up back together like they always have been, at the expense of the queer boy’s feelings?
that would be such a disappointing message to the audience, especially since the show is literally about outcasts, people who don’t fit the norm of society. so having a two main characters in a queer relationship would actually be pretty fitting for the concept of the show.
#stranger things#byler#byler nation#byler is endgame#byler endgame#byler s5#mike wheeler#will byers#byler is real#byler is canon#byler doubt#bylerdoubtcure
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About Keenry and how the CK writers ruined one of the best relationships of the show...

I'll try to keep it short.
These are the reasons why I think Tory and Robby shouldn't be endgame in Cobra Kai anymore:
Their miscommunication will only lead them to more heartbreak.
Back in season 4 I became a fulltime Keenry shipper, especially after the Prom scenes. And the main reason was because we could see how they understood each other, talked things out and worried about the other... After the season 5 breakup nothing was the same for them anymore.
With Tory wanting to solve her problems always on her own and with Robby escaping and assuming things before talking with her properly... They made it pretty clear they have communication and trust problems. And I get it, they both have had hard lives. But I hoped that after they made up in the last episode of season 5, they both had learned their lessons...
Flash forward to season 6 and instead we had more of the same but a thousand times worse.
Their SECOND break up
Listen. I know many couples go on and off for years and then end up getting married anyways, especially when they started their relationship pretty young... But I don't think that's healthy at all.
If you feel the constant need to resort to a break up or pause to fix your problems then that probably means you don't actually go well with that person.
And that's fine. That doesn't mean one of the parts is a horrible person. Just means it doesn't work and even if it's hurting it will be for the best in the future.
And yeah, I think the same about Sam x Miguel in case you're wondering.
The "love triangles" they used to kind of made them up again
They really run out of ideas in the writing room. We already had the drama: Tory mom died and she had to fix her relationship with the Miyagi Dos. She could have been forced to fight Robby in the tournament because of the rules, not because she was angry at him.
Why did Robby had to go through literal SA with that freak of a girl while thinking his second girlfriend had also cheated with another guy??
Why did Tory had to be captain with a guy that was made to be just a cartoon villain instead of an actual companion? And why did she also had to experience watching the boy she loved kissing another girl for the second time??
Kwon and Zara were such a wasted potential it makes my blood boil. They had multiple time Taekwondo champions with really good acting skills and they just went with the psycho gang freak and the superficial jealous bitch (ahem, abuser). But that's for another post...
The solution to these "misunderstandings" was... Pushing their respective freaks to defend each other
I'm talking about Tory pushing Kwon in the hall and Robby throwing Zara like a potato bag during the brawl.
"You really choose her over me?"
"It's not even close"
WTF was that?? It wasn't a choice in the first place!! Robby was drunk to the point of unconsciousness. Who on earth wrote that?
And are Tory and Robby supposed to be back together just because he said that?
He also said: "I know you better than that. I shouldn't have let Kwon get into my head" Well........ Your actions didn't show, honey, you immediately accused her of hooking up with him during the last fight.
Kwon's death and its impact in both their lives
Even if they didn't like him and Kwon made things even more difficult between them, he was still a teen like them.
Look at Tory's face in the picture above. Do you think she can handle any more death after what she had to go through with her mother? Do you think she will be magically cured by the power of Robby's love and fight Zara to "get revenge" in part 3?? Please, don't.
Even if a year has passed between the Sekai Taikai and the new tournament, this kid is traumatised. I don't think she should be fighting at all for a long, long time.
Robby, I can see him fighting, but I'm really disappointed on how his character arc went... Yes, he has finally gotten over his second place complex and understood he is a good leader if he wants to... But I can't see how that can improve his relationship with Tory.
So, lastly, I hope this is what one of the CK creators meant when he posted that "some high school relationships last forever, other don't". It makes me sad if it has to be Keenry the one that doesn't end up being endgame. But at the same time is the only solution I see to this poor writing...
#cobra kai#cobra kai season 6#cobra kai part 2#tory nichols#kwon jae sung#cobra kai kwon#robby keene#zara malik#keenry#ship#heartbreak
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@missfroggish - GLUE TRAP DREAMCATCHER && TRIANGULATORTOP || TWIN PEAKS POSTER makes the WEBDRESS. Completely internet-enabled and made of 100% synthetic materials. Now you too can be traumatised and wrapped in plastic!
@vriskadyke - DREAMCATCHER && BLACK LODGE: THE GAME OF DOMINATION create the SWEET SPIRIT CATCHER TABLETOP BASKETBALL GAME.
@ackedack - WORLD BEATER GAME || GLUE STICK combine to make the BALMYKNOCKER. For "sticking it" to the landed gentry of the world, I guess?
@lizardanya - WORLD BEATER GAME && TRIANGLE make the GEODESIPHONE. Back in the mid-century a guy named BACHMINSTER-FULLER had everyone convinced that this was the absolute future of all percussion instruments.
@n4ut1lus - WORLD BEATER GAME && X-MEN OMNIBUS creates the WORLD UNITER GAME (below right). A highly cerebral game of skill based around the aim of uniting the people of the world, hand in psychic hand.
@odddaysgeorge - CEREBRICK && WORLD DOMINATION: LICENSED ALTERNIAN EDITION combine to make the MUTANT WARFARE GAMEBOOK (above right). This actually used to be a completely normal digital warfare gamebook - containing not only all the rules but the necessary resources for a riveting afternoon of strategy with your friends - until it was changed by the mutagenic rays of a dangerous alien sun. I'm not sure I'd recommend putting your fingers in there now.
@zignifier - ELECTRONIC TRIANGLE || CEREBRICK && WEAPON DELTA creates the WEAPON ALPHABET. Wirelessly connected to the vast database of mutant powers contained within your Cerebrackpack, these finely-tuned vibrating metal rods can simulate a vast array of unique special attacks in combat.
@sylph-o-life - WEAPON DELTA || TRITOP makes the BUBTOP. Compact, pointy, Canadian-made -- this ain't your grandpappy's Blackberry.
@bottleoscrumpy - WEAPON DELTA && WORLD BEATER GAME make the WORLD BEATERS. Even though this clearly doesn't constitute a game anymore they still come with this weird half-globe for some reason. You're sure that doesn't have any weird or mystical properties at all.
@wolygan - WEAPON DELTA && GLUE GLOBE combine to make the HONEY BADGER PAWS. These no longer really seem like very effective weapons, but they'd probably be great for reaching your fat fuckin Pooh Bear mitts for some mother fuckin snacks.
@knuckleduster - DREAMCATCHER && WEAPON DELTA creates the WEBBIN' DELTAS. All the frozen north's centuries of science and magic combine so that the user can grab some stuff from a little further away and have it be a little bit sticky and unpleasant when it gets back to them.
This arsenal of deadly new triangles(?) is enough to bring the lapis imp down to just 1 (ONE) HIT POINT. Can we put our heads together and come up one really good idea to knock this little fucker down?!?
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Everyone saying they’ve “butchered Dina’s character / writing” hasn’t had a late teen situationship lol.

Okay jokes aside here’s my thoughts:
I think the changes they’ve made are brilliant. It feels innocent and funny to watch. I think y’all are completely misinterpreting it. I think it’s supposed to be a typical messy late teen situationship.
Similar to the other love triangle in the games, humans and relationships are messy. We lie and we manipulate even if we do it unintentionally and out of innocence.
Sincerity is scary, so Dina and Bella both think it’s easier to play it off and be all “pfft i dont even care that much”. It can literally be someone you are deeply in love with, but you’re just too scared to actually confront that and be sincere and admit it. Because that fear of rejection kinda outweighs it. Like I said it’s easier to downplay your feelings and “play it cool.”
Pay attention to details like after the vote, Dina didn’t just show up to Ellie suddenly to say hey let’s go and do it this way. She had to have got the maps, spoken to Seth etc. and planned all day and chose the right moment to confront Ellie before she left without her.
In the tent scene there’s clearly a tension. She’s dropping little hints. But is still too scared to say anything confrete. It’s like “ohhh wouldn’t it be so terrible if you kissed me again.” And laughing it off, Is so much easier than “I have feelings for you want to kiss you.” Lol.
And with her implying she slept with Jesse again, come on like we don’t all know someone who’s stupidly gone back to an ex lmao. The whole of Jackson was in mourning after the events that just happened, Dina herself must’ve been incredibly traumatised. Ellie was in hospital, and she was emotional and lonely and had a moment with Jesse lol. It makes sense?
And it feels like both Ellie and Dina are kinda battling with eachother mentally to keep control. They’re both trying to manipulate the situation for themselves. It feels grounded and I love it. It’s awkward but it’s human.
And I’m not glorifying it, I look back on how I was as a late teenager and cringe so hard at how stupid I was, but that’s just what teenagers do I guess. And that’s why I think the writing is brilliant. It’s relatable, it’s real, it’s human.
#the last of us#tlou hbo#dina tlou#Dina#ellie tlou#the last of us 2#the last of us season 2#ellie williams
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The last comic is so funny but also, uh, if Bill survives, imagine being him. One moment you see cool new people from the same way as stars (yay maybe you can be friends) and next moment your mom is dead and maybe nothing good actually ever comes from up there. Maybe stars were not your friends either.
I’m already drawing stuff for evil cipher parents AU, DON’T DIVE ME MORE IDEAS💥💥💥/silly
Aw glad you liked the comic ❤️
But yea
Imagine the traumatised edgy Bill, who’s motivation is to destroy the stars to revenge his family
This guy would have trust issues, no, Trust Issues, those deserve capital letters
And a survivor syndrome too (*insert yellow triangle blaming himself for surviving and having consistent panic attacks*)
God the angst potential is immaculate 👁️
#bear answers#I love how you guys start imagining more stuff based on my comics#golden AU potential right there☝️#also the tragedy here will be so strong#the thing that inspired you led to the destruction of everything you love#another scenario bill just won’t remember anything 💀#he’s too baby to have conscious thoughts yet 👶#but that’s boring I want more angst 💅
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yeeeeah, RIGHT. suuuuure, buddy! like, im totally convinced right now. definitely.
i dont need YOU telling me im.good at what i do! i already know! and im so not telling you any of my secrets. but i WILL tell you that you SUUUUUCK at this whole trickery thing. like... i guess thsts just a universally law for bills or something? but still!
HELLO THERE SHOOTING STAR!!
- your friend @matchmakerbillcipher
hi, so, like... haaaate to tell ya, but we are NOT friends. suuuuper sorry. i know thats a mega bummer for you, cuz you know, im awesome. buuut yeah! no. no bill ciphers are my friends.
also, like, jeez. did you NOT SEE THE SIGN? ANTI. CIPHER. ZONE.
so much for being "all knowing" or whatever.
#hes just trying to be matchmaker buddies.... :.(#← WEEPING. IM SO SORRY MATCHMAKER BILL.....#she might have some tryst issues with triangles#hashtag slightky traumatised#mabel pines#gravity falls#bill cipher#matchmaker bill
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I saw that in one of your posts, one of your tags said “#Also Mako is experiencing some sort of strange brand of reverse misogyny and idk how to even touch that” I haven’t seen Korra yet due to being busy but I’ve heard that he was just a bad boyfriend that “made his exes gay” so can you elaborate on why you think he’s experiencing “reverse misogyny”? Thank you!
Honestly those tags were meant to be a joke, to an extent. I don't really know how to describe the Mako Effect in fandom. Tlok is genrally a bit of an odd fandom to be in, because most of it seems to be so weirdly focused on Korrasami, to the point where the artist who made the recent comic about Mako and Bolin was getting harassed for only putting in one panel of them. Like there is a bit of a weird "my way or the highway" mindset. I assume its because the tlok fandom has had to deal with a lot of pushback and unfair criticism due to people not liking Korra and le homophobia, so now some people tend to overcorrect.
But going back to Mako, I guess what I'm trying to convey is that he reverses a lot of tropes that are usually given to female characters? Like first off, while men in centres of love triangles aren't unheard of, it's usually the other way round, with a female character being pursued by 2 men.
And I think people do give him at least some of the shit female characters in his situation get. People don't like that he's struggling to make a decision and dont think he 'deserves' the attention.
A turning point in Mako's perception by the fandom seems to be Korrasami going canon.
I think then Mako started getting the reversed version of ye ole "female character getting in the way of yaoi" treatment. Like I remember the weird 'headcanon' that Mako would be somehow against Korrasami, or be downright homophobic, which is odd because his canon reaction is "a little surprised but extremely supportive".
Mako also very explicitly takes on a caretaker role with others, Bolin, Korra and Wu specifically. And while that shouldn't bd gendered, this is something once again often assigned to female characters. There's a reason people joke about Mako having 'eldest daughter syndrome'. And people seem annoyed by this set of traits he exhibits too. People will constantly rag on him suddenly doting on Korra (after she was kidnapped by an unknown party and turned up battered, bruised, exhausted and starving) while he was dating Asami, or having 'no personality'. But idk man I just think he's doing his best.
People will also like... constantly discredit his skills, despite him being an really talented bender. Though this also applies to Bolin, so who knows.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that a large chunk of the tlok fanbase likes to prop up their female characters by putting down a male character who only committed the crime of being traumatised and awkward, and I have seen this so many times with the genders reversed. It's odd lol.
#makos parallels to katara might also put him on the chopping block idk#i need someone with a degree in like gender studies to look at this or smth if#ig#mako#korra#asami sato#avatar#legend of korra#tlok#the legend of korra#avatar the legend of korra#atlok#lok
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