#travis: kill her

[lingeringscars]

she nods a little when he praises nat. "yeah." she says softly. "it's not like any of us were thinking." it's what she's been telling melissa this whole time, after all. she frowns a little, though. "yeah..." her brows furrow. "you used to hunt together. i'm not surprised." she was thinking about how when nat came back, he wasn't with her, but he knows his own way around these woods and how to get back to camp. they were in that together for a long time. she nods a little at his recap. "that was smart." she acknowledges. "he still could have shot you." and she spent the entire night with the image of what that looked like. "i'm glad he didn't shoot you."

she closes her eyes, trying to will away the frustration. it works, partially. "yeah, yeah. i know." she blows out a stream of air. "i'm sorry." she knows what he's been through, what they all have. her own head is fuzzy, and it's making her less empathetic than she would typically be. she knows why he would have kept going, even if he did think she was hit. he needed to get them back so they could be freed. "good. good, i'm glad." she wants to give him that. she doesn't know if she deserves it, but it is what she wants to provide. she snorts, actually snorts, at what comes next. "i think she'd be glad if she did do that, actually." she sits in his next words for a minute. "we're so fucked." before pulling away to look at him. "yeah. she's fucking unpredictable right now." she doesn't know if there was ever a time she could predict shauna, but she has no idea what to expect next. "i don't know what happens next, travis, but...we gotta keep the pressure off nat. not that she'll let us, but...they're distracted right now. people are here. they've forgotten. but...it won't take anything to get back there. especially with shauna." she won't let them forget that nat threatened everything first. she keeps her voice low, knowing that if anyone overheard they'd be just as screwed. "she actually wants to protect everyone. shauna...i don't know what the fuck she wants, but it can't be good." she let's out another breath. "and lottie...i don't know what to do about her, either."

travis scoffs,   shaking his head.    ❝  i guess that’s fair,   it was probably fucked to just go after them like that,   with no real plan yet,  but nat—-   ❞    he glances around,   instinctively wondering if he should be quieter about following her lead.   he doesn’t want to,   though.   she’s still the leader he believes in.   ❝  she’s still good at this,  you know.   tracking,  listening,  knowing where to go.   that’s how i knew we’d make it back.  ❞   in some ways,  anyway.   but when he saw his opening with kodiak,   he took it,   even if it meant leaving the rest behind —   travis has always made his decisions based on what will keep him alive,   no matter what.   he has to.   he has to bring something home for his mother.   he has to make javi’s sacrifice worth something.    he glances over to akilah,  who’s still holding the crossbow as she talks to mari.   ❝ yeah,  we trapped him by the cliff.   he kind of didn’t have a choice once we got him. ❞    he did,  technically.   he could’ve let himself die and not helped.   instead,  he chose to take travis’s offer to get them home.   he wonders now if kodiak is going to rat him out,  or if travis’s performance when they all got him back to camp we believable enough to him to indicate that travis was always on the girls’ side.    

he frowns,  shaking his head.   ❝  okay,  harper,  i’m sorry.   my head’s fuzzy,  ❞   he insists,   and it’s only gotten worse over the night,   especially after they actually started moving towards a rescue—  only for it to fail.  his brows furrow and he nods at her as if it’s obvious.      ❝  yeah.   you do for me,   ❞   he admits,   but he assumed she knew that—   though maybe he spends too much time being shocked by her care that he doesn’t make it obvious.    he thinks for a moment,   then rolls his eyes.    ❝  she should be glad shauna didn’t immediately take a knife to that woman’s throat,  ❞   he mumbles,   afraid to talk shit about her of all people,   but it comes out anyway,   because he feels safe enough with harper.    ❝  she’s going to try to make decisions about what happens next.   right?   i don’t—  i don’t think it should be up to her.  ❞    she doesn’t seem willing to give them a choice,  though. 

[anyfire]

jeff sadecki loves to be like Ugh my bitch wife has been so paranoid and high strung ever since she killed the guy she thought was blackmailing her friends over the stuff they did during the 19 months they spent stranded in the canadian wilderness. Something that has nothing to do with me at all

[consume-me-you-coward]

YELLOWJACKETS THEORY: (pretty much unconfirmed canon tbh)

JACKIE FAKED HER DEATH TO GET OUT OF PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR CALLIE AFTER THEY DID IT RAW

My evidence: >>>

She is clearly JackieShauna’s love child, the casting department honestly made it a little too obvious if I'm being honest, like she has Shauna’s colouring but that’s Jackie’s face

[unadulteratedloathings]

Oh my God, are you seriously doing magic right now? You do know that girls are not into that, right?

[nataliescatorccioapologist]

I can’t get over the implications of this deleted scene from 2x07. Javi is running away from the group, presumably because he senses how dangerous they’ve become, and because his mysterious “friend” warned him to stay away. But then Nat stops him and convinces him to come back with her, unknowingly sending him to back to the people who will let him die. In trying to protect Javi and keep him safe, she unintentionally sends him to his death and ensures her own survival over his. There’s such a heartbreaking pattern on this show of good intentions causing the most harm.

[sukibenders]

Me, watching some YJS fans justify what Shauna did to Mari by using clips of Mari and Jackie giggling in s1 (normal teenage girl things), or Mari speaking the truth and trying to take Jackie's jacket (even though it was the middle of winter and the group were already sharing clothes), with said fans saying that they've would've done worse to Mari in response, acting like that makes them any better:

[trekkie-polls]

I limited options to regular cast members, before nutrek. From there I tried to think who got the least character development / fewest story lines from each series. But it’s all subjective, you could want to see more of any character!!

For bonus points tell us what you wanted to know about that character or what stories you wanted about them. I always thought it was unfair that we only saw Geordi’s parents on a zoom call, and Beverly’s grandmother as a corpse. Every other tng character got at least one episode featuring their parents.

Also, we never even learned if Chakotay is mononymous, or if he’s not, if Chakotay is his first or last name. (*Side eyes prodigy season 2 👀* I got high hopes for you kid.)

[nataliesscatorccio]

Shauna and the baby were probably both going to die. depending on your interpretation of the dream realm, maybe for a time Shauna did die. something brought her back, or kept her from staying there. but it wasn't Mari's "wilderness, I hope Shauna doesn't die" or Travis' well intended but useless blood magic (recall Lottie "can't this just be enough? please?" it was never enough) or even the baby's death covering the symbol on the blanket in blood. those are futile hopes and bargains. the baby was already doomed. and the wilderness doesn't trade, we know this. it chooses. someone has to die. it took Crystal and spared Shauna. Shauna thinks she's been snubbed by the group and by extension the wilderness when it takes Javi and Nat is crowned, but what she fails to see is that she was chosen first. she keeps being chosen! not to die, to live. Coach Martinez dying to put her oxygen mask on. Jackie dying to later feed her. the wilderness taking Crystal (where is her body? it belongs to the wilderness now) to get Shauna through a dangerous labor. Nat dying in her place as the queen of hearts twenty-five years later. maybe it always did like Nat best, but it killed for Shauna first. and it kept killing for her. for girls like Shauna (and for girls like the Wilderness) isn't that just the shape love makes? a knife wound.

[fadeintoyou1993]

[bugwolfsstuff]

If i had a euro for every time I gave a Stoll a godly mother in law that does not like them I'd have two euros which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice

I'm referring to Tratie and Malconnor

Demeter doesn't like Travis because he's a son of underworld Hermes, plus he's a thief AND he keeps making jokes about being Hades and Persephone (little does she know he doesn't intend on being Hades in his relationship)

Athena doesn't like Connor because he makes Malcolm less loyal to her and both would let the world and the gods die for each other— Connor is basically Percy 2 electric boogaloo and it concerns her

AND he's a thief

[assblastergaster]

as much as i completely understand the shauna haters, we HAVE forgotten what happened in s2. to compare her to natalie—who is by and large an angel despite what happened to her—she is not a perfect victim. she's shitty, mean, and vindictive. . .but the worst thing that can happen to ANYONE happened to her and I'm not talking about jackie. it's easy to move on from it bc it was intentionally made to "go away" (the YJs knew dwelling on it was not an option), but Shauna's baby dying and her delusion making her believe (for even just a second) that her teammates had eaten him is what drives the story.

i'm not trying to get at a trauma olympics type thing here w/ a reference to natalie, but we should recognize that shauna was only a shitty best friend/wife before her baby brutally died—she is not evil for evil's sake. she's been experiencing a severe mental health episode for half a year, and it gets worse as it approaches the anniversary of her son's death, as they find someone she compartmentalized as complicit in his death.

it was only after that that she became violent and vengeful. it's why she allowed melissa to cling on to her. it's why mari ran away and found coach. it's why she wanted to hunt coach, and then condemn him to death, and then force him to live with "what he had done." it's why she couldn't ever have a healthy relationship. it's why she tried to force natalie to see what she'd been going through, only to drive her away to seek safety instead.

[novelconcepts]

like, there’s literally a scene in s2 where all the adults are finally together and there’s no distractions and no outsiders present. they’re even a little drunk and loose with their words! and yet van still shuts it down when misty tries to bring up their time in the wilderness! that’s her first instinct, even when they’re all together, and there’s assumedly no judgement! like yes she doesn’t want the mood ruined, sure, but it’s also a perfect summation of it all: they don’t think about it, because they can’t, because they’re always having to re-write! nat literally two seconds later in the very SAME scene asks what they all remember, and it’s made clear they can’t??

Yes! This is not new, and it wasn’t new in season 2, either. The Taissa running for Senate and the Taissa in the woods going “this place will follow us forever” are two different women. She remembers it was bad enough to warrant making sure no one would talk, but do we think she really remembers all the details and still ran for office? No way. Shauna would not have the reputation for being a soft, boring housewife if she recalled in vivid detail setting up a teammate’s murder and then demanding her hair as a trophy. Nat remembers the most, I would guess, but she’s also been dulling those memories religiously for two decades. They remember the big picture, the vague awfulness, but the specifics of who they were? They’ve been running from that for YEARS.

[demadogs]

i am so upset about lotties death. i have been since episode four. i was just hoping it would pay off somehow but oh my god they fucking blew it.

she died so early in the season. they revealed her death through a text message in the last ten seconds of an episode. then they revealed who killed her through casual dialogue in the first half of the last episode. and then SHE DIDNT HAVE A DEATH DREAM. WHEN SHE WOULDVE AND SHOULDVE HAD THE BEST ONE OUT OF ALL OF THEM.

she was the only spiritual character who was still alive. why on earth would they not give the most spiritual character a fucking death dream. it could have been something different, it could been beautiful. it SHOULD have been BEAUTIFUL. they created an incredible character and then just threw her away. she doesnt even have a song playing over her death. it genuinely feels so disrespectful.

she deserved a death scene that makes you bawl your eyes out. instead youre just left like “….thats it?”

[puppeteerpoet]

Watching Yellowjackets rn when do they kill Shauna?

[bulldog-butch]

I just saw someone saying Travis had it “way worse” than Shauna and yet he’s not going off the rails and while I think trauma isn’t a competition, I don’t think people understand how fucking bad postpartum depression/psychosis can be and how long it can last. And on top of that shauna’s baby didn’t even make it

[atlasisntdead]

!Yellowjackets spoilers!

So you're telling me that in order for them to get rescued Mari had to be the one to die in the hunt instead of Hannah (cause of her helping Nat get away by swapping places)? Mari really is THE doomed by the narrative character...bro...