#your style is so toony!

[salpho]

@dictatortirah HATE this guy !!! (in a silly good way)

[quirkycritters]

*Frantically ripping my window open and throwing these to y’all like feed to pigeons* I FIGURED OUT HOW TO REWORK MY TOON STYLE I’M SO READY FOR ART FIGHT

[c0ttonberries]

Hi so my commissions are open because i need to scrape up $2000 to move out of my current house and into a new enclosure with lots of enrichment. Who wants some art.

Have some prices & examples!!!

(For these, I charge per character. So 2 sketched fullbodies would be $60 for example)

And some fandom-specific stuff!

Tantalized? Entranced? Curious, even? Heres a bit more info:

Terms & Conditions

I reserve the right to refuse a commission for any reason.

I reserve the right to use finished commissions as examples of my work (I will NOT be taking credit for the character, just the art!)

Commissions arent allowed to be used for commercial purposes, including Blockchain/NFT transactions. Personal use only.

Customers are not allowed to “finish” a commission. If you want a sketch lined and colored at a later date, I’ll be willing to do so for the remaining price (EX. If you bought a sketch bust ($15) and asked for it to be lined and colored, I’d charge the remaining $15 for the full color price)

Will Draw

Humans/Humanoids

Furries & Feral animals

Light gore (like some limbs chopped off or a couple guts. im not art the clown im more like a saw trap you feel me)

Self insert/selfship

WONT Draw:

Complex designs (can offer to simplify but my style is very toony)

NSFW

Complex backgrounds

Designs from descriptipns (i need some form of visual reference, and a digital color palette if youre getting a colored piece)

IRL people

All that spond good to you? DM me so we can work things out!! Thanks for reading ^-^

[tired-hellowl]

here' a comprehensive list as to every problem I have with the current *unecessary characters known as 'Glitz and Glam'

Do they expand the story/worldbuilding in any meaningful way? Do they explore a new hidden dynamic/past conjunction with a differing character and is that explored meaningfully? What was the point of having them animated when Mammon can portray the same level of humiliation/degrading/on stage lack of positive reinforcements. 😐

I'm so sorry but I view these characters as necessary garbage that caused some animators arthritis via too many patterns, not enough screen time to have meat and potatoes worth of dialogue, or really any pretense within the story whatsoever and yes this extends towards every female character on screen but let's not worry about that !!! Even if they are IMPLIED to be from the ring of envy-a color or ring we haven't seen nor meaningfully conveyed to the audience that it even is possible to go in/exists- it isn't conveyed to the audience well enough besides the visual implication of colors???? Instead of having shitty b-plots that go nowhere via Stolas and Blitz goofing off in seeing stars, Moxxie and Millie getting C-plots for no reason, or loona getting a rabies shot- all of that time could have been exploring hell, going to different rings, focusing on other characters besides the main 5, literally I would prefer a quiet episode like BoJack Horsemans 'Fish out of Water'where we can actually see the personalities of the main characters be appreciated and shown to us but that's never gonna happen :/

What I've been worried about is not even the on screen racism/out of touch 'rap/hip-hop parody' leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, if that isn't enough then the sexualization/implication of an incest type dynamic and nothing else besides fetish bait with these characters constantly grabbing one another and not really acting like siblings moreso someone who has never had siblings attempting to write sibling banter and failing terribly :/

Why do you have a problem with 'Klown Bitch' it's so catchy! Uhm, no??? I feel bad for anyone who attempts to defend helluva/hazbin as good modern musicals let me grit my teeth in silence as to the glorification over white people dominating black culture

HERES A HISTORY OF FEMALE HIPHOP ARTISTS: X

Pictured above is very old concept art about twin characters and its the same hairshape viv kept to transfer over to glitz/glam- despite clearly being over designed and way too much going on Alá vivzie style. It just goes to show she recycles even from herself and not every design is always new hot and fresh :/ AND SPEAKING OF CONCEPT ART-

Also also don't forget salems' concept designs thst got passed even though they loon toony, loony, clown enough, and definitely majorly way easier to have animated besides the mess that is the current design meta ???

Love how you can clearly see the silhouettes being so easily identifiable comparably towards the actual amalgamated mess that is their current limbs attempting to hold onto their toothpick body for their head.

All this screams to me is viv using the artists thst try to come onto helluva and they try their best with what their given, viv only picks the best bits SHE thinks is worth her time rather then thinking about the audience or animating anything else besides overglorified white people rap 🤔

Also the episode literally presents its full internalized misogyny/racism within this episode because vivzie herself literally admitted to typing into script with a full chest that

'Women just ain't funny'

. . .

why present misogyny within the series if you as a creator aren't willing to tackle the subject matter? Why write about it or present it as if you're smart over including the joke in your script when it isn't even funny because it just further pushes women out of the entertainment/comedy business which mind you IS ALREADY VERY WELL MALE DOMINATED SO PUTTING OTHER WOMEN DOWN TO PUT YOURSELF UP ISNT HELPING YOUR CASE VIV???

So then what was the point of adding female clowns if all you were going to do with them was make fun of them out of their expense and then profit off of the fact that they are incest coded????????????

?????????Are we watching the same fucking series????????

[mintysaurs]

Please reveal your secrets for how you drew the demon dragon because I can't draw it to save my life 😭😭😭

(totk spoilers)

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- I'm not very good at explaining please forgive me, but I try to really express the undead features. The Demon King looks very much like a corpse, so I emphasize a skull like shape in the face! But I also like to add a silliness to my fanart to break away from the dark themes of the game, so I also exaggerate the bulging/bug eyes like a lizard. ALSO I really simplify the design to fit my toony style. I haven't been drawing all of his jagged uneven horns in his mane(?) because I feel like it would take away from the face in my simple style. (smol edit note: the nose looks like a fusion of a skull nasal cavity and the nose of a boar which I feel is intentional bc.. obvious reasons. He also has a very reptilian looking underbite)

So think... skull lizard thing? Also here are some refs that helped me a lot with my sketches

The dev notes on the dragon designs are such a blessing for how I draw them!

[maximilliansblog]

How to build your first fursuit head for ~$100 USD (2023)

What’s good furries? I’m sure a lot of you have a fursona and want to make your first fursuit. I recommend starting with a partial just in case you mess up or fall out of the hobby. It’s also less expensive!

This tutorial will only cover the head. I haven’t made any of the other stuff and I’m probably going to buy it online premade because I’m lazy.

1.) Have a reference sheet for your fursona.

If you are an artist, draw (the best you can) a reference sheet of your fursona from the front, side, and back. I made a little turnaround animation for mine, but this is not necessary.

Not an artist? Don’t want to draw? Commission someone to do it for you. I recommend Etsy, but you can find furry artists with open commissions all over the internet.

No money for commissions? You might be out of luck. Ask a friend or draw it the best you can. Alternatively, you can edit someone else’s fursona reference sheet to make it look like your fursona. Yeah, it’s stealing. Just don’t post it and act like it’s yours 👍

You can also go into the Roblox game, Catalogue Avatar Creator, and assemble something that looks kind of like your fursona. Take a screenshot of it from the front, side, and back, then go into a photo editor (I recommend IbisPaint or MediBang Paint, they are both free) and add in your special details.

I recommend not making your first fursuit super complicated or some kind of rare species. But you do you. It will just be really hard.

Also determine what style of fursuit you want. Toony? Kemono? Realistic? (I don’t recommend realistic for your first fursuit but you do you). This will be important later.

2.) Find Shit to Build It With

Once again, I recommend Etsy. You’ll need:

+ all the fur colors you need (try 2-3)

+ eye mesh

+ 3D printed mask

+ hot glue gun and hot glue sticks (dollar store)

+ needle and thread (dollar store or Walmart)

+ balaclava

+ styrofoam head

+ fabric scissors

+ extra foam pieces for ears or horns

Assemble all of that. It should be around $80-120 USD.

Your 3D printed mask is the most important thing. Another reason to get a relatively common species. Mine was a dragon. Remember the fursuit style you picked earlier? Search on etsy “3d printed [style] [species] furry mask” and you should be able to find one. You can also get pre-made foam heads. I don’t recommend trying to make your own head base, because A) it’s hard and B) those materials cost more money.

This shit will take a while to come in so don’t get too excited about it. My mask took like a month because it came from Germany.

3.) Mark the Color Spots on your Head Base

Basically just take a sharpie and outline the different color regions on your headbase. You can also use a pencil if you’re a pussy /j

4.) Uhhhh Eyeball That Fabric Pattern and Hot Glue the Pieces to Your Headbase

Some people use duct tape to make a pattern. That did not work for me! So I eyeballed it. Made some mistakes. That’s okay.

5.) Trim Down the Fur Length

Most people use clippers for this but I didn’t want to buy any and I didn’t know how to use them so I did it VERY CAREFULLY with scissors.

6.) Fill in the Cracks Between Your Hot Glue Seams With Loose Fur

Look at all this damn fur on the floor! If only there was something to do with it!

Put hot glue between the super visible seams where you hotglued different pieces of fabric next to each other, then pack in some of that loose fur. Cut it down if it’s too long. The seams will be less visible.

7.) Hot Glue the Eye Mesh Behind the Eye Holes

VERY CAREFULLY hot glue this so your character isn’t cross-eyed. You can try follow-me eyes but I didn’t do that with mine.

8.) Add Your Extra Details

You know like whiskers or plastic teeth or a tongue or anything else you want to put on there.

Now you’re done with the mask part.

9.) CAREFULLY Hot Glue Your Balaclava to the Inside of the Mask

The eye hole should be where your eye mesh is so that you can see out. Also make sure some of the balaclava is glued to the top of the mask.

10.) Weigh Down Your Styrofoam Head With a Heavy Rock

Or put it on a stand. Or hot glue it to the table. Whatever works.

11.) Put the Balaclava that you Glued to the Mask on the Styrofoam Head

Pretty simple. The reason we weighed down the styrofoam head is because the front of your mask will be heavy and make it fall over while you’re trying to work.

12.) ????? Put Fur On the Balaclava

You’ll also need to like add some fur connecting the sides of the mask to the balaclava. Hard to explain. You’ll probably figure it out?

13.) Trim that Fur and Put the Trimmings in the Seams Like Before

14.) Take it off of the Styrofoam Head

You may need to cut a slit in the back of the neck of your fursuit head. Not only will it help get the styrofoam head out, now your head can get in and out too!

15.) Put it on

Edit it if something is wrong. It might feel crooked but it’s probably not.

16.) Enjoy!

Hopefully this was helpful! This is how made mine.

[chubunited]

If you don’t mind my asking, how do you go about drawing fat? :3

Honestly, just Being a fat guy helps a lot w that. I have a lot of personal experience just living in my own body, and as I love my shape, I spend a lot of time observing it/trying to understand how it moves and works! So, character studies/model studies/IRL examples are ALWAYS helpful! there are a ton of gorgeous xl models on tumblr that share their beautiful pics, so if you're able (and theyre agreeable) then i'd use that resource! if more toony is your style, then referring to artist whose styles youd like to emulate is always a good strategy.

and also, just.... try shit! fuck around! make bad sketches! 3-d model in a cheap ass software! practice practice practice and have FUN with it! collab with other artists!! There's a PDF online of that 'drawing fat and skin folds' book that I havent used personally but ive heard its very helpful.

[girlymatsu]

do you think osoeri would work a job well together? theyd be so sad to work different departments or sections in the store and have lunch at the same time and be so mushy and lovey dovey together theyd disgust customers and coworkers alike but theyre so focused on each other they never notice <3 i think they could run a cute little mom and pop shop in their later years, jus the two of them :]

YES!!! waaa i always think about erina hating her current job because shes just working at a computer all alones... if they were to work together I think they would be so distracted and go out of their way to see each other... Osomatsu hates work but it could be worth it if he has his wife... and it helps Erina get through the day (she also hates work)... I also like thinking of office co workers au.. and youre totally right... having a shop down the line... its so cute they get to live at their own pace... I've imagined Osomatsu as a mangaka like Akatsuka because I hc him being decent at drawing and draws toony showa era style people... hes just lazy but Erina would be his assistant... they sell them on the side of their eclectic knickknack store of funny and cute looking things * sets self on fire*

[da-owo]

hope this helps someone haha or it just doesnt make sense XD idk everyones style is so different so drawing anthro legs is so different for everyone! i just saw someone having trouble with goat legs which the same stuff apply's too an as someone who draws furries full time i thought id throw my thoughts out an hope that someone gets help from it on the note of the mlp effect it can be very cute if that fit your style ! an if you want a more toony look! but i know when i first started drawing anthro characters i was victum of hating my style becuase i was drawing the wrong type of anthro legs on my characters

[cathalbravecog]

Hi! I'm kinda shy but I love your vintage finish on your work. Would you consider offering pointers for how to achieve that vibe?

oh, absolutely!! i love that sort of style and i think more people should be able to achieve it if they want!! shouldn't gatekeep art stuff ^^ i don't really do vintage style stuff a lot, and i take more comic book/print/retro inspo than anything. but, these go hand in hand!! please know i am still learning, too! this is just how i do it.

also, there's a lot of guides for this online and tools... that you have to purchase. i can assure you everything listed here is free! (including my pirated SAI2 copy!) some things have donations available towards the artists that made them, so you can do that if you want to support an artist :D

i'll go over basically everything i know, so this WILL get long! i also spent hours going over several days searching for resources, so i'll list everything so you don't have to ^^

(PART 1/2 BECAUSE OF IMAGE LIMITATIONS!!! PART 2 SHOULD BE WRITTEN SOON AFTER THIS ONE!! reblog THAT once it's done!)

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THE ART ITSELF / INSPIRATIONS:

for the ARTSTYLE and WHAT you draw: you can just draw whatever!! really, do your own thing! twist this style in your own way, it doesn't have to be a 100% accurate!! i literally used these same vintage look effects in a drawing drawn in my usual style of high roller. you can draw anything you want and you don't need to copy comicbook styles or all that!!

or - you CAN take inspo from vintage comic books / artwork or other printed comics! (for me tom and jerry comes to mind as something with a toony style, since it's what i read as a kid. also donald duck comics! no need to follow this but if you wanna be extra you can! ^^ looking at inspo is good.)

however you will need to look at examples aside from just the Artstyle, to achieve the actual Look!!

here's some examples pics i took of some comics i own laying around in a shelf. these are mixed ages, the asterix and ducktales comics being older and the tom and jerry comic being newer. i have some oldies since i got them passed down! czech text + asterix jumpscare, sorry.

to move on from the artstyle talk fully and more to the general style/look part - notice how the tom and jerry has brighter colors, less dirt, and an overall better quality!!

one thing i want you to note, in older prints there's obvious color misprinting and imperfections! you may chose to do this, or don't! depends what kind of era or printing you wanna reference. of course, also keep in mind the veeery limited CYMK colors they had Back In The Day. also note the dirt!!! how some parts are lighter and more chipped and how it isn't a full block of color!!

a lot of this does parrot posessedpasm's own guide, which i HIGHLY recommend! it's where i got a jump-start on things. there's other things listed on their post, which you should give a read! goes over history of some things that will let you have a better understanding of stuff.

speaking of inspo and on the topic of posessedpasm, before we move on - they're one of my biggest inspirations for this! their art is incredible and i think it's important to look at other artists' take on these styles. go out there and look at other artists who draw in a similar style achieving the same retro look!!! (no but genuinely i could look at posessedpasm's art forever... i love just looking at it and studying it!! i want what they have... but i'm not gonna gush now!)

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ACTUAL TECHNICALITIES / HOW THE FUCK DO I DO IT ???:

FIRST, LINEART!!: i choose a brush that's somewhat fluttery and resembles ink at least a little bit, instead of a basic round brush. here's the brush i used, for any sai2 users. i'll show my krita faves after!!

(note brush size, gets fuzzier the bigger it is)

and the krita alternatives! i don't do inking / lineart in krita in 99.9% of my art unless i'm experimenting. but there's some great brushes you can find online to use! here's links to the ones on screen

tomb of null

buck a. brush

ramonm inktober (he just presents it but since it's his post i named it that) (download link is on the video!)

that alone already gets the lineart look just a bit. but it's not all! krita is especially useful for this, as sai doesn't have this function. (but i find my way around it

here's a WIP screenshot i took while drawing that piece VS the final piece!

you may notice the lineart is "chipped" away in some spots. printing always wasn't perfect and created some imperfections, that may smudge and chip away as time goes on.

HERE'S A GUIDE FOR IMITATING THAT!!!!

what i do, is simply create a clipping layer on the lineart. (typically i do the lineart, then color, THEN do lineart effects, but this is just for show) (i also usually have a set, typically orange/yellow background color picked already, but i haven't done that here for Whatever Reason)

set it to "erase" layer mode... (and click the little "a" to actually clip it to the layer. you could also just make a quick clipping group that does it for you!)

and draw over the lineart! (preferably with a highly textured "dirty" brush!) the erase clipping layer will only erase the lineart, and nothing underneath it. you can change the opacity up and down to adjust the erasing... you can add more erase layers to play with the effect a little!

what i then do (sometimes), i ctrl+e the lineart group to one layer. i copy it. i ctrl+z to go back to keep the group if needed. i paste the copied lineart underneath it. i add a blur filter, shift it to be slightly off from the lineart by a few pixels, and set it to "burn". i may change the color to be a very dark orange-ish brownish color. gives an effect of the lineart bleeding a little!

COLORING!!:

color: okay so for this part i just kinda bullshit it and either pick whatever colors i want, or i color pick them from this image below then slightly alter if i need a different color. i do not have the patience to do my own cymk layer management digitally, just adding my effects can take OVER an hour and i have a way that looks nice Without It. i either fake my color misprints later or i just don't do it. still stuff to consider!

(taken from posessedpasm's guide! this is how i colored my sticky lou drawing. usually i will just pick my own colors and yellow them/dim them slightly.)

how do i do it: i color in sai using my usual brush or the one i showed previously. if i color on krita i use a different fuzzy kind of brush...

some colors i do on different layers and i move them slightly to make the misprinted effect. then i may erase small bits of it to make it look a bit better if i want.

if you really want the funky color mixing that may not be Extra Accurate anyway - draw using different colors on different layers. the layer overlapping with the bottom layer... set it to "multiply" and eyedrop the color where the two colors overlap. set the layer effect back to "normal". lock your opacity so you draw only on the Already Colored Parts and color the overlapping area using the eyedropped color! neato !

ONE THING TO NOTE!!! if something is white, you should leave it uncolored/transparent. unless you stylize it to be a different color entirely, if so... go ahead! but if it's WHITE white - just don't color it at all!!!

and now, to my Favorite part - the halftone overlay effect!!! here's where things can get fairly convincing already - plus, i use this effect / similar even in my normal art!

before ANYTHING!! at least, for krita - to achieve the best look i use the newspaper plugin!

newspaper plugin for krita

FIRST, i merge the color layer into one layer and then add it into a clipping group. i then copy the color layer and paste it OUTSIDE the clipping group.

then, select your PASTED color layer (named on the screenshot so u know what i mean) and go to tools>scripts>newspaper (once you install the plugin!)

i then play with the settings a bit. i typically don't touch everything - i just change the mode to Four color (CMY+K Pictures) or Four color (CMYK - Pictures) (this one usually looks better imo)

i also change the size to be smaller, usually around 4.00px.

click OK! it'll generate cymk halftone layers IN a clipping group! don't worry about the black, you can rid of it easily ;]

just close the group and move it to be inside of your color group below! clip the whole cmyk group over the color layer... and BOOM!

but that's not it! set the newspaper group's layer effect to luminosity (or whatever you find works best...!) adjust the opacity to around 50%-30% and BOOM!!

though, that's not all! do the same things we did to erase up the lineart earlier to the coloring, too. same steps! in the same clipping group! just make sure it's above the cmyk newspaper group.

you can then group both lineart groups and color groups into ANOTHER group that will contain them both. with that you can then make an erase layer over them both so they both get affected by it and make it look like both got chipped away, and not like they're separate entities. ^^

you can then use this for backgrounds... text... other things!

one important thing is also getting those papery, dirty effects... which i'll cover in a reblog! (image limit :,]) alongside that, i'll list all my resources for download there!!!

[doxiedreg]

Did the evil art style challenge (aka opposite style from your usual style challenge) with wienerdragon as my test subject!

Restrictions i was dealing with: -No vibrant colors -No shading/rendering/textures -Thick lines instead of thin ones -No background -Full toony instead of semi realism

I think I pulled it off! I hope you guys think so as well! I was going to do this challenge with an anthro character of mine (specifically thorn) as well but I am not confident enough with humanoid anatomy yet to heavily stylise it and find a good pose at the same time so I had to give up on that because i was getting frustrated to hell rip Anyway I hope you guys like it! I think he came out quite cute!

[juney-blues]

honestly maybe i'm missing something, but the way that one artist (rcdart i think?) was clowned on for like, "going backwards in art style" or whatever, feels a little *too* mean spirited to me

like

yeah one of these looks not great, you got me there

but like clearly they're trying out something *new*

they're trying out a simpler art style, and simpler art styles are really hard to get right without a solid grasp of the fundamentals they're built on

like wow it's almost like they were, taking inspiration, from a show with an art style that focuses a lot on shapes that flow, with a lot of simplified details so it's easier to animate, or something

like yeah no shit it looks worse, because that's a hard thing to imitate

if suddenly i decided i wanted to try imitating the simplified toony style of craig mcracken

you fucking bet it'd look like garbage, atleast at first! that shit's hard! even if it looks easier to draw than something more complex!

the simpler something is, the more noticeable it is when something looks off

ghfdjghdfjkgh i mean looking through their catalogue they have drawn some Questionable Things (i am not going to attempt to defend that Finn From Star Wars drawing, jesus crust.)

(or like, any of the specific content of their art, this is purely about art style lmao)

(.did captain america successfuly utilise Curvy T-boy swag by becoming an icon of the military industrial complex, to secure 9 quadrillion united states pesos in pentagon funding for the marvel cinematic universe?) i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with trying to do new things with your art, even if it DOES looks worse, 'cause like, if you don't try anything new how are you supposed to get better at new things lol

[ironicsoap]

I wanna be able to make custom avatars for Vrchat of some of my more uncommon species characters but tutorials for how to use blender absolutely kill me (I do better learning if it's written down with some pictures, or entirely hands on with someone guiding me in person) how did you learn to make your own models? Do you have any recommendations for instructions or any YouTube videos that might be easier to grasp and follow along to? I really love your work and I'm actually saving up for one of your bases for my kitties <3 my only experience with avatars right now is texturing, and even that is subpar unfortunately.

Written down resources for beginners on how to use blender are scarce, because it's such a big program with so many things, and you really need visuals to know where things are when you're learning (Very possible with written guides, but very tedious to put in Enough pictures to show everything) Every time I've used a written Blender guide, it was for some really high level niche thing I needed haha I learned how to make my own models by figuring out projects I wanted to do, then googling/youtubing every step/aspect on how to do them, and repeating! After the first low poly model I made though I just kinda went straight into attempting to make pixar models and they took me FOREVER and looked horrible but I had so much fun in the process of doing and learning I kept throwing myself at these huge projects and got better over time. Then I discovered toony models, and then vrchat, and I was like wow this is way easier and extra fun *permanently changes the course of my career and artistic style*

What I recommend to everyone who asks me how to learn, is pick a project you want to do (start small! very important so you don't lose motivation) and google/youtube how to do it I haven't kept up to date on newer beginner tutorials, there might be something better that's more recent than these! But I think they teach you applicable knowledge to making character models (vs the donut..lol) Froggy | Bunny | My 3D tutorial playlist | Great overview of the pipeline

Motivation is the most important factor on if someone learns 3D. Attempting smaller stuff before moving onto slightly bigger things, then slightly bigger, etc, means you don't spend a billion hours on 1 REALLY hard project only for it to suck and demotivate you so much that you don't wanna do 3D anymore. (Or have blender turn into an obsession like me and do that and not get demotivated, judge for yourself :P)

If a tutorial feels like its taking WAY too long to get to the point, it probably is, don't feel bad about needing to put it on 2X speed or looking for a different tutorial. (Donut tutorial sucksssss) Blender is probably the most heavily documented and tutorial'd 3D program out there so you're in luck x) most of the other ones you have to pay money to properly learn them

[plasma-packin-mama]

HELLO MY COMMISSIONS ARE OPEN

I'm officially offering two things right now, but if you'd like me to draw something else please free to message me about it and we can chat!! :]

Sketch Headshots: a shoulders-up drawing of whoever you want, with loose marker-style coloring. 10 dollars!

Toony Style: a full-body drawing of whoever you want in my silly toony style that I use for doodles and comics. 10 dollars for one character, +5 for each additional character in the drawing. (I may add a limit to how many characters can be in one drawing) They will be standing in a blank void/simple abstract background unless requested otherwise. I can do simple short comics and stuff in this style, so if that's something you'd be interested in let me know and we can talk about prices!

I take payment upfront thru PayPal or Venmo!

Please have reference images ready. This can be your art, photo collages, video game screenshots, whatever! As long as I have something to work from.

Turnaround won't be more than a few weeks. I'll let you know if and how many people are ahead of you in line when you message me.

(thank u to my besties @luvlorne and @thebigolbee for letting me use their OCs as examples hehe)

[webcomicreads]

The Issue with "Foefic"

For as long as humans have created things, others have looked at the fruits of their labour and thought, "I can do that better." Drawing inspiration from something you see and think you could improve upon is not wrong, it is how innovation works when it comes to creating tools, art, cooking. However, some people mean it in a malicious way. A way that teeters on jealousy and, if I may, clout-thirsty.

Lore Rekindled is a "retelling" of the (unfortunately) Eisner award winning webcomic Lore Olympus. From what I saw on the post introducing it, it is "better drawn and better written." I, like many, have issue with Lore Olympus. The writing is lacking and absolutely not award-worthy, and it even misses the mark as a cheesy harlequin romance. Persephone's characterization has no consistency. The art, while striking and easily recognizable, leaves a lot to be desired, especially when it comes to backgrounds. I don't consider it noteworthy, but it is heavily pushed by Naver's Webtoon, and that is probably why it keeps winning awards. With how low my opinion of Lore Olympus was, I dived into Lore Rekindled hoping to find something with more substance.

I did not find that substance.

LR suffers in different ways than LO. It assumes that you have read or are at least familiar with the major characters of Lore Olympus, which is understandable. The characters are re-written and interact strangely. Many of the characters in LO are meant to come off as "old money," and this shows in their lifestyles, fashion, and way they speak. The characters in LR all appear to have the same voice. If I were to print out a transcript of this comic and read it out loud, they would all be indistinguishable. LR is "better drawn," but what I think they meant is it is less toony. The backgrounds are better most of the time, but the panelling is boring and lacks the dynamicism seen in the original work. The plot is, if I'm being honest, just AU fanfiction (derogatory).

When I also learned that this creator had an original comic, I was very interested to see what it brought to the table. As I understood it, LR was a side project. So you can imagine my surprise when I looked at both the old and the new Project Reaper and it is just objectively a worse comic. The the majority of the cast has same-face syndrome, and seem to live in a cool-tone hell with no furniture most of the time. The concept of how to dress and style characters seems to be locked into what a 15 year old thinks is badass, but that fits for the story. The plot and dialogue reads like something a middle-schooler would make as an RP scenario with friends. The colouring is lazy dodge and burn, which just emphasizes that the author does not care about cultivating a space or atmosphere or world for these characters to live in. They are just toys to mash together to make your angsty super cool comic that you're going to pitch to Dark Horse for REAL, GUYS. And the first comic for this series is written right to left. In the author's defense, they were a teen when they started the original comic.

So how does someone whose average panel looks like the example above come to the conclusion that they can make a better comic? It's simple: Project Reaper is original, but LR has base material you can go off of. Anyone can read a comic and think "I would do THIS for this panel, and I would do THAT for this character introduction." I did it reading both of these comics. But if I were handed only the script for either of these projects, it would not come as easily. Lore Rekindled only looks "better" because it has Rachel's work to build off of. This goes back to what I was saying at the beginning, that the "I could do that but GOOD" view isn't doing you any favours, especially when you aren't doing your own IP well.

I think writing a little hate piece once in a while is good. Draw a hate piece if you really need to (though I would just show it to friends, personally.) Consuming a little media you hate is also good. As a creator, it is important to see and understand why you hate something, what you would change, and what little glimmers of good are in an otherwise pile of garbage. It helps you grow, to realize your tastes, and what not to do in your own work. Critically acclaimed writer Alan Moore agrees! But to have a whole comic with a regular update schedule redrawing something you hate is... It's giving "look at my sonichu comic redraw!" It is loser behavior.

Plenty of people create media out of spite, and I encourage it. I do it too. But the work should be your own. You need to put this energy into your IP. If you keep being a "hater," you'll never guess what you attract. Other haters! And those haters will like you, for now. But one of these days, someone will go through your list of essays and think, "oh, but I don't see any fat people in YOUR work that aren't plus-size model attractive." All it takes is one comment or take that a similarly-minded reader doesn't like and there could be a master list about you!

I am, of course, not saying you can't make derivative works at all. The doujinshi market is full of fan creations, and every art site you go to will be full of fanart. But the difference between LR and these works (generic sexy flavour of the month artists aside,) is that they are made with love. With passion for the original work. I think back to Homestuck AUs because, while I may not have liked them, these creators were doing it out of love for the characters. I follow a few guys on twitter who have been drawing a picture of their anime wife every day for over 10 years. That's love! Then you have more transformative works like Hello from Halo Head, of which some of it's characters are off-brand animal crossing characters. I love that. I think it's neat that the creator loved that little cat twink enough to bring him into their comic in a new form.

I think the point of this post is that you can use spite as a motivator, but it should be for your own creations. We have a limited time on this planet, and even less time where our hands are still able to pick up a pen. Put this towards your passion for the medium, for the stories in your heart. It's rough out there for creators, and it can be hard to find an audience in the ever-churning seas of the internet. But, please, don't put all your effort into "foefiction." That is cringe. And, if you're going to anyways, it'd better actually be good.

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This is me, reposting my commission sheet because I had a brain fart and completely mispriced the halfbody section, oh wow. If you have my old one reblogged and can find it un-reblogging it would be great.

Written versions of the prices and stuff can be found here: https://bittlebatus.carrd.co/#commissions

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Selfshipping commissions have a discount for two characters now listed on the price part of my carrd above.

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COMMISSION INFO

I will draw almost any species, ocs or canon character, selfships, scenery, etc as long as it isn't the following:

Anything that goes against my " I do not support or endorse " list. I refuse to draw offensive or illegal/borderline illegal stuff. This means I WON'T draw pedophilia content, zoophilia content, incest, etc. Remember to check my " I do not support or endorse list " for what I won't draw before you ask.

Intense gore.

The following characters: Anyone from BoJack Horseman (trauma-related) and Dr. Habit (trauma-related)

Anime characters, live-action characters, non toony CGI characters. None of these translate well into my style, so I prefer working with characters who are more cartoonish. However, if you are entirely fine with testing the waters I can toonify whatever realistic character you want.

Fetish content and NSFW commissions are not taken on this account so respect my boundaries.

Buying from me you accept ahead of time my style is extremely toony and your character's shapes will be over-exaggerated, especially for anthros and animal-like characters.

I have the right to refuse any commission that makes me uncomfortable.

I'M SUPER WELCOMING TO SELFSHIPPING COMMISSIONS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PROSHIPPING TOPICS.

I only take Paypal and work through invoices. Commissioners get very basic thumbnails to choose from before the entire rest of the commission process begins ( Thumbnails - Clean Sketch - Color - Shading - Backgrounds )

I will look characters up first to be sure you're not lying to me about ages, etc. So please don't try to get around it.

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⛔I do NOT support or endorse: Pedophiles and " MAPS ", cub porn artist, racists, zoophiles, LGBTQ+phobic people, sexist, people who ship disgusting content constantly seen in proshitter communities, people who draw disgusting content like hate art/incest/typical proshitter stuff/etc., or people who are just horrible types of people like morally wrong sympathizers/nazis/etc. ⛔