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Random thought that could could absolutely be nothing, an over-analyzation of sorts even, but I have always found it interesting that in the Devlin house episode Charles gets sucked into the loop starting from the point he snaps at Edwin about him "Not being the all-knowing expert on all things." It's especially interesting to me because after he does so, Edwin tells Charles that he's "...Not acting like himself at all."

In theory, Charles could have just reappeared when Mr. Devlin turns the corner or when he approaches Mr. Devlin here:

because if the point of repetition here is to show us that the abuse Charles suffered at the hands of his own father is what causes him to get trapped in the loop, either of those moments would have been sufficient in supporting that idea. The dialogue shared beforehand between him and Edwin has little to do with the point at hand...unless...

Charles feeling pain about his own father isn't the whole sum of why he gets trapped in the loop; his fear that he's just LIKE his father, that he's not a good person, that he's "Cruel for the shits," and capable of hurting the people he loves (and thus undeserving of their love) is also what traps him in the loop, and that's why his "loop" starts with him snapping at Edwin.

Even though we as viewers can empathize with and understand why Charles snaps at Edwin given the circumstances, it's very unlikely that Charles extends that same grace to himself. I would argue that we see the multi-faceted layers of his trauma explored in various ways from this moment on. Charles himself even later admits that all he feels is anger despite the fact that he wants to be "a good guy." Charles has yet to understand that it's possible to be good and feel anger, that anger in and of itself is not bad, and that feeling strong negative emotions like grief or anger does not make a person dangerous or abusive like his father was...nor does it guarantee that he would use his anger to harm others. So, with that in mind, of course Charles' loop would start with him lashing out at Edwin, as opposed to it just starting with him lashing out at Brandon Devlin; it's not just about feeling powerless to stop the abuse, it's about feeling like you play a role in it. It's about the deep-rooted fear that maybe you actually deserved the abuse you suffered because you are not good, and just by being related to an abuser you are damned to be just like them, or worse. Charles worries about who he truly is, deep down, and that maybe Edwin is wrong when he says that Charles isn't acting like himself: maybe the darkest parts that he works so hard to bury are actually who he truly is, and his ability to throw careless, harmful, biting words at someone he loves deeper than anyone else may be a reflection of this. After all, his father loved his mother, he loved Charles, and look what he did to them... how he hurt them beyond repair. What if he is the same?

OR: the trauma Charles deals with isn't only the violence his father enacted on him (shown through what Brandon Devlin does to his family), but it's also the violence he feels capable of enacting himself (shown through his ability to throw harsh words toward Edwin who Charles openly claims is the "most important person in the world" to him).

What furthered this idea even more for me (and added a bit of salt to the wound frankly) was Crystal and Edwin's reactions to Charles being pulled into the loop. Out of shock, confusion, and frustration Crystal immediately turns to Edwin for answers but for a moment he is just frantic and uncharacteristically frazzled, only able to say, "Charles was right, I don't know everything..." and OUCH, right? But it emphasizes that 1) what Charles said to Edwin was quite hurtful, 2) that it did have an (unintentional) impact on Edwin, and 3) that Charles himself very well might have realized it was hurtful as soon as it left his mouth thus, again, why it would make sense that his loop began there.

It takes a strong emotional reaction to be pulled into a loop; the possibly that this moment was written to work on two levels of Charles' inner turmoil is quite clever (and extremely heartbreaking).

Again, it could absolutely be nothing... but it's worth pondering!!

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Life without death knows no form - no boundary, without death in our finite nature, it would be stripped of all meaning, left to wander as little more than endlessly rotating gears in the quiet engine of a cold hell. But we do not die because it gives our lives meaning, we die because this is the way of all things. And in the end, is that not all that we are?

Teeth of God Tour Interlude Two

photo by hecetas

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Friendly reminder that Cowboy Hat Nico is cannon and glorious

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DC, you know exactly what you are doing. I can not be fooled

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The way Steph becomes Damian’s Robin and then dies

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I don’t know what kills me more, Jason’s epitaph for Dick or Tim

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The World in the Walls But after A Life In The Day

Anyone wonder what would happen if the Scarlatti Web happened after the Mosaic. Like a much darker version of “Do You Like Teeth?”

like would Q’s dark place still be a mental hospital or would it be the throne room? And would he want to fight like he does in The World In The Walls or would he be too crushed?

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If Nico is Bob’s Star, should Percy have told him, hello?

At the end of The House of Hades Bob says, “"Tell the sun and the stars hello for me.”" But in TSATS, Bob says

““You came, he said. My sun and star. ���Of course I did,” Nico replied, unsure what the other part meant. “We shouldn’t have left you down here.””

And

““My sun and star, he said again. “What?” said Nico. “What does that mean?” It must be both of you.””

I know we all thought in HOH he meant Zoë, but what if he meant Nico?

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I just love this paragraph so much.

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If Jason is the Arkham Knight and Bruce is the Dark Knight, what is the rest of the Batfam?

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Jason: Fucking piece of shit! This gun always does this to me

Dick: Let me see it

(Dick clears spent ammo and fixes the jam easily, handing the gun back to Jason)

Dick: your mag spring was backward. Personally, I prefer a Beretta M9 or a Sig P320, to this Taurus G2C but whatever floats your boat Little Wing.

Jason: Where the fuck did you learn to do that

Dick: Uh, band camp?

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What if Jason's gun jams and Dick is the one to fix it for him. Jason learns that he doesn't know his brother as well as he thought he did, and maybe Golden Boy isn't so Gold after all.

Maybe Dick learned how to fix jamming firearms under Slade, Spryal, someone else?