#Antigone type

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Tragically Greek

This 1955 edition of Oedipus the King, written by Sophocles, features the original Greek text alongside the English verse translation. Offering a rich, immersive reading experience results from hard work, dedication, and creative minds coming together to create this masterpiece.

Jan van Krimpen (1892-1958), Dutch typographer, book designer, and type designer, designed the two typefaces. The Greek type is named “Antigone,” and the English type is called “Romulus.” The translator for this work was Francis Storr (1839-1919), a British classicist, translator, and teacher.

The paper was specially manufactured at the historic Dutch Pannekoek Papermill, a mill with a rich history that unfortunately met its end in a fire in 1944. This exclusive feature adds a touch of rarity to your reading experience. Printed in the offices of Johannes Enschedé, under the supervision of Mijnheer van Krimpen, it was for the members of the Limited Editions Club. 

Adding to the richness of this edition is the detailed and insightful introduction provided by Pulitzer Prize winner Thornton Wilder (1897-1975), American playwright, novelist, and native of Madison, WI. His esteemed perspective offers an enlightening preface to the classic tale.

The illustrations are black and terra-cotta wood engravings designed by Greek artist Demetrios Galanis (1879-1966). He was the trailblazer of modern Greek engraving and was once touted as one of the greatest living Greek artists at the time of the book’s release. 

Sophocles (c. 497/496 – winter 406/405 BC) was an ancient Greek playwright born in Colonus near Athens. He is one of the three great tragedians of classical Athens, along with Aeschylus and Euripides. Sophocles wrote over 120 plays during his lifetime, although only seven have survived in their entirety. His works are characterized by their complex characters, well-crafted plots, and profound exploration of moral and philosophical themes. 

Among his most famous plays is the tragedy Oedipus the King. The story is about Oedipus, the king of Thebes, who tries to uncover the truth behind a plague that has struck his city. In doing so, he discovers that he himself is responsible for the plague, having unknowingly killed his father and married his mother. The play delves into themes of fate, free will, and the consequences of one's actions.

-Melissa, Special Collections Classics Intern

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tried to squish their names together

The "D" in Lloyd's name works well enough as the "A" in Antigone I think?

yoooo

CAN WE GET A RATING, SCHOLARS?

[cosmicrhetoric]

the funniest thing about the weird spell that wooden overcoats and antigone in particular cast over me for months and months is that i would often rb funny little ironic posts about antigone (sophocles) from lit mutuals completely forgetting that everyone wasn't by default talking about a skeleton of a weird little woman. with a penchant for getting attacked by owls no less

[wabblebees]

never never never in my life gonna be able to beat the weirdo theatre nerd allegations. its midnight and for the last few hours ive been (voluntarily of my own free will At No-One's Behest) doing some character research for the show we're working on (which at a certain level is Absolutely Necessary!! but at *this* level is Absolutely Not. lmfao)(and so... ik for a fact if i mention this in rehearsal tomorrow im gonna get a whole lotta blank stares ((or TERRIFIED looks from the freshmen wondering if they should be doing this much work lmao))

but anyway so about 10 minutes ago i found a fucking essay (just 9 pages out of this philological collection from the 60s) that just the idea behind the Very Simple title made me so excited i had to stand up at my desk to start reading it and fully forgot to sit back down until i realized i wanted to start TAKING NOTES..... WHICH I GENERALLY HATE DOING WHILE READING........ BUT IM TOO EXCITED AND DONT WANNA FORGET ANY OF IT.................. SO IM TAKING FUCKING NOTES

but anyway beyond tHAT the thing that actually made me pause to start typing this post though is the fact that just now, four pages in, this essay finally put something into place that ive been puzzling over in my head since i very first read the play which... made me happystim so hard i almost knocked myself out of my fucking chair. hdkdgsjfkfhdgskdgwrdjfk.

so yeah. never beating the nerd allegations. lmao

[heartyearning]

Antigone in the Amazon is (overall!!!!) incredibly incredibly incredibly good. Theatre is like high school football. The highs and lows.

[annabelle--cane]

I think the first law of being an audio drama fan is that you have to contemplate how the protagonists of every show show you've listened to would react if they wound up in night vale, and I sincerely believe that the funn twins wouldn't even register anything weird with the type of shit they got going on. rudyard sees dead animals falling from the sky and just runs to antigone like "if we can figure out how to bill this cloud then this could be a very lucrative source of income for us."

[facts-i-just-made-up]

Facts about Greek Myths?

There are a great many figures in Greek myth and they can be hard to keep track of, so here is a quick guide to which is which:

Ajax- Warrior who invented detergent.

Antigone- Funeral enthusiast who invented civil disobedience.

Atlas- First winner of the Olympic strong titan competition.

Bellerophon- Plot point in Mission Impossible 2.

Cerberus- 7 headed dog tragically born with only 3 heads.

Charon- Lead rower for Styx.

Cratus- God of strength, but not THAT god of strength.

Cyclops- Inventor of the monocle.

Daedalus- Inventor of the Labyrinth, and thus of David Bowie.

Dionysus- Drank 24/7 but very responsibly never drove.

Eris- Goddess of fighting with each other.

Eros- God of doing something else with each other.

Euronymous- God of Mayhem.

Fates- Least creatively named destiny gods ever.

Hera- Goddess of marriage yet only Zeus's third wife.

Hylia- Goddess of triangles and disjointed timelines.

Icarus- God of disappointing ones father.

Io- Space captain and epic 3D short film, still not on blu-ray.

Jocasta- Originator of Jo Mama jokes, mother of Oedipus.

Leda- Swan enthusiast and feathery-fandom originator.

Medea- Even worse mom than Jocasta.

Medusa- Inventor of reptile-safe shampoo.

Megaclite- LOL her name is "Megaclite." Pronounced like "Clitty."

Narcissus- Basically Trump.

Odysseus- Sailor who refused to ask for directions.

Orpheus- Inventor of impatiently checking the download bar.

Ouranos- Spelling that could've avoided a lot of planet butt jokes.

Pallas- Inventor of weird looking cats.

Persephone- Pomegranate fan, looked like Monica Bellucci.

Prometheus- Stupid fucking movie, especially for using some of H.R. Giger's original designs then putting them up next to a fucking plain white squid. Also let's make the space jockey a tall guy in a suit. How did Scott think that was a good idea? Fuck that shit and double fuck Covenant for somehow doing even fucking worse.

Rhode- Sea nymph yet not technically an island.

Siren- Inverse groupie.

Sisyphus- Limp Biscuit fan who never stopped rolling.

Tantalus- I'll tell you in a minute...

Thanatos- God of dying as easily as snapping your fingers.

Zeus- When the earth was still flat and the clouds made of fire, and mountains stretched up to the sky, sometimes higher- Folks roamed the earth like big rolling kegs. They had two sets of arms, they had two sets of legs. They had two faces peering out of one giant head so they could watch all around them as they talked and they read. And they never knew nothing of love. It was before the origin of love. There were three sexes then: One that looked like two men glued up back to back, called the children of the sun. Similar in shape and girth were the children of the earth. They looked like two girls rolled up in one. The children of the moon were like a fork shoved on a spoon, they were part sun, part earth- Part daughter, part son. Now the gods grew quite scared of our strength and defiance and Thor said, "I'm gonna kill them all with my hammer, like I killed the giants." And Zeus said, "No, you better let me use my lightening like scissors, like I cut the legs off the whales, and dinosaurs into lizards." Then he grabbed up some bolts and he let out a laugh, and said, "I'll split them right down the middle. Gonna cut them right up in half." And then storm clouds gathered above into great balls of fire, and fire shot down from the sky in bolts like shining blades of a knife and it ripped right through the flesh of the children of the sun and the moon and the earth. If you want the rest, see Hedwig and the Angry Inch cuz this is taking way longer to type than I expected.

[madtomedgar]

something i think gets dropped a lot in fandom discussions is the category of stories that both operate within a particular moral framework and are uncomfortable with it. there’s probably a word for this and i’m not articulating this super well but.

i think modern western storytelling, particularly the kind of stories that attract fandom type interactions, either have a morality system that the narrative wholeheartedly agrees with and has set up as “good,” which is being challenged by an outside “evil” (think lotr) or the system is framed as immoral, and our heroes see through that and overthrow the system to establish a reign of “good,” (start wars, original flavor).

And there are other kinds of storytelling around systems of morality. in western lit/media, they usually belong to more serious, high-brow works that don’t work well with fandom. but the kind of framework i’m talking about is one that also shows up in antigone. in that, there is a set way that Creon has to act, as a good ruler. If he doesn’t act this way, he isn’t a good ruler. And there’s a set way that Antigone has to act to be a good sister. And those two goals are at deep odds, so you wind up with Creon doing the right thing but also doing something so deeply wrong, and Antigone doing the wrong thing to do what’s right. And there’s a read here that’s like. Creon was sticking too closely to the letter of the law and therefore couldn’t see what was really right, like Antigone did, and so is a tragic villain. But you can also read them as both being right, and being unable to resolve that.

And in discussions of mdzs/cql, I feel like I see a lot of either people deciding that society and its moral requirements are bad, and the protagonist who rebels against them is good, OR people upholding the societal moral requirements against the protagonist in a way even the story doesn’t. Because what Wei Wuxian does in leaving the Jiang sect and breaking his promise is wrong for the society of the story. But it’s also true that he’s doing the right thing by protecting the Wens, and the problems with his brother are that they can’t resolve the issue of them both being right in incompatible ways.

And like. Taking revenge for your family by killing the entire family of the people who wronged you is socially acceptable, but I don’t think you can say that the story is happy about it. Being a good and obedient child is a social moral requirement, and the story isn’t framing telling your parents who suck to go fuck themselves, or having them fucked to death, as good. Instead it’s wrestling with the question of what happens when your parents abuse that loyalty and affection, or don’t accept it? What the fuck are you supposed to do when you have to both can’t inter a traitor in the city but you have to bury your family honorably? And there isn’t a neat answer!

Like... Wei Wuxian does owe the Jiangs, and also the handling of that debt is disastrous and unfair to everyone. Jin Guangyao is being a very good son, and therefore a very bad man, until he becomes a terrible son and then a good man (as in once he’s out from under his father, he chooses to do things that enhance the common good for no benefit to himself, and puts a stop to the demonic cultivation experiments that used live people, and generally seems to perform the role of a wise and good leader. I’m not saying what he did to his father or the sex workers was good because it wasn’t, though it is fun narratively). Wen Ning is a traitor to the man who took him in and raised him and to his sect, and he’s also a member of that sect with a potential moral obligation to take revenge, and he did the right thing by helping the Jiangs out. But it was also very much the wrong thing.

And so much of this push and pull and discomfort with, but not rejection of, this moral system is bound up in conflicting moral obligations, to parents, to individuals, to sects, to leaders, and what happens when they conflict. But it’s important, I think, that it’s not actually a rejection of these obligations and their weight. Yeah.

[dootznbootz]

Can i be honest. I don't get it when people try to use Antigone as a feminist icon or something, or that "She literally died because she didn't listen to man! That's just like us!" Because it's not and we're not living in the 16th century.

And these people are acting like Creon wouldn't have killed her if he was a man. Or that Creon wouldn't have killed her if he was a woman. Like guys, I'm sorry but "Girlboss" feminism is soo annoying.

I saw a post where it's like "Greek mythology male characters: 'He seems chill... Oh he's being a douche to women. Female Greek mythology characters: 'She seem cool... Oh she's getting revenge on the men that wronged her. She's so cool!!"

And in the tags they were hating on Ody for killing the slave girl and calling Medea an icon. Even though Medea killed her two young children just because she was salty at Jason... double standards at their finest, people

Real.

Also people better be mad at Penelope as well if they're mad at Odysseus for the slave girls. She hated them just as much.

Wise Penelope heard his words and rebuked Melantho, saying: “You can be sure, you bold and brazen bitch, that I have seen your shameless acts. You’ll wipe away the stain with your own head. You clearly know full well, because you heard me say it—I’m planning to ask this stranger in my halls some questions about my husband, since I feel such grief.”

(Book 19, Johnston)

People just literally turn a blind eye when the woman also does violence against other women. (Same with Clytemnestra. like sure, she killed Agamemnon but she also screwed up her kids. (one a girl so a lot of these "girlboss" types ideals are contradictory))

And it's really really tough enjoying Medea only to see people "girlboss" her. I love the play. It made me feel so many things but NONE of them were GOOD feelings.

Old meme from a post I made a while back but it sums up my feelings lol.

I think it weirdly comes from this awful wave of "I hate children. Horrible beings. Hope they suffer. etc.etc." bullshit and the girlboss wave :'(

Also um, yeah, Creon would've killed ANYONE who would have buried Polyneices. I've always seen Antigone more as a story of honoring family and a family's love for one another, not so much of a "feminist story". As Creon is like, the opposite of Antigone in how he does not wish to honor his family no matter what and will even have family killed for honoring family.

I weirdly think there's this phenomenon of people seeing stories/myths that simply have women in them, especially if they are "center stage" and then decide that they're feminist regardless of the context.

Like I guess you could say that these stories simply having complex and driven women is feminist (I mean...moreso than most booktok/modern YA novels ;~; where many female leads are very...bland imo) which is very sad that feminism is just the bare minimum of "Hey a woman is a person who is complex."

But it's also like, these women and their meaningful and HUMAN stories are LOST because they're just painted as "girlboss".

I think Antigone would be more like "I mean...I was just trying to bury my brother because I care about him and didn't want to see him left to rot. I would have done it no matter WHAT told me not to." and less about "YASSSS queen SLAY!" shit.

[uwmspeccoll]

It's Fine Press Friday!

On this Fine Press Friday we present a collection of poems by Sappho entitled Sappho Revocata, compiled and translated by poet, English classicist, and Cambridge lecturer J.M. Edmonds with two drawings printed in collotype by British artist Véra Willoughby, and published in 1928 by Peter Davies in an edition of 350 copies.

Sappho Revocata includes Sappho’s complete and fragmentary poems in two sections; the first half records her poetry in Greek, while the second half has the corresponding English versions of the same works. Sappho is particularly lauded in popular culture for her frequent discussion of romantic love between women. Her poetry was so admired in the ancient world that Plato referred to her as “the tenth muse” in his writings.

This book is the first to use Jan van Krimpen’s Greek type Antigone, with his Lutetia type for the preliminary pages and English section of the text. It was printed by the distinguished Dutch printing house of Joh. Enschedé en Zonen in Haarlem, Holland. The two illustrations by Véra Willoughby were printed at the Chiswick Press in London. 150 copies were reserved for the United States and distributed by Random House.

Our copy, another gift from our friend Jerry Buff, bears the bookplate of Joan Whitney. We're not sure who that may be, but we know this copy was acquired in New York, so we're hoping that it belonged to American heiress, art collector, and co-founder and former majority owner of the New York Mets, Joan Whitney Payson (1903-1975).

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– Sarah S., Special Collections Graduate Intern

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

Most Tragic Character Tournament: Blog Map

THE RESULTS ARE IN.

FULL COMPETITION BRACKET:

[The winner of each bracket will go head-to-head in the finals. If you see multiples of the same name, it’s because several characters share it, such as Orpheus or c!Scott.]

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“Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, fears what he’s created?”

[tylermileslockett]

In 5th century Athens, a festival in honor of Dionysus was held called the City Dionysia where competitions in music, dance, poetry, and outdoor theatre performances took place. Here playwrights perfected three types of plays; comedies, tragedies, and satyr plays. A masked actor(s) would communicate with a group known as the Chorus; who summarized plot points and backstory to the audience. These elegant and incredible plays, not only expand our views on mythic characters and tales, but they reveal insight into the ancient cultural beliefs of Athenian Greeks. There were many playwrights, but the three most famous tragedians are as follows…

Aeschylus (525-455 B.C.) (Eh-skuh-lus) known as “the father of tragedy,” descended from a line of Eleusinian priests, and fought as a hoplite soldier against the Persians. Aristotle credits Aeschylus with first creating conflict between two characters in a play (before this the characters would only converse with the chorus members). His Oresteia trilogy, is the only surviving complete trilogy we have. Out of his 80- 90 plays, 7 are extant (surviving).

Sophocles (496 – 406 B.C.) (saa-fuh-kleez) came from a wealthy family, was highly educated, and well known and respected amongst statesmen. He is credited by Aristotle for the innovation of adding a third actor onstage to propel the plot, thereby reducing the importance of the chorus, as well as adding skenographia, or scene paintings. Out of the 30 competitions he entered, he won 24. Sophocles most famous plays are his Theban plays; Oedipus Rex, Oedipus at Colonus, and Antigone. Out of his 120 plays, 7 are extant.

Euripides (480- 406 B.C.) (yer-i-puh-deez) was a pioneer for portraying mythic heroes as more flawed, as well as developing internal character conflict to new heights with female characters like Medea and Hecuba. He commonly used the plot device Deus Ex Machina; where gods arrive to resolve the conflict at the end. It is said Euripedes socialized with Sophist philosophers, and owned a large library. He only won 4 competitions. Out of his 92 plays, 19 are extant.

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[aliciavance4228]

Greek Mythology Characters And Their MBTI Types

Note: I tried to include as many gods, demigods, mortals, creatures etc. as possible.

INTJ: Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Feeling (Fi), and Extraverted Sensing (Se);

Characters: Athena, Hades, Nyx, Diomedes, Nemesis, Moirai (The Fates), Minos, Ixion, Tantalus, Melinoe, Styx, Graeae, Erebus, Hydra;

INTP: Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Feeling (Fe);

Characters: Pandora, Scylla, Daedalus, Chaos, Urania, Sphinx, Coeus, Aergia;

ENTJ: Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Feeling (Fi);

Characters: Zeus, Helios, Medea, Clytemnestra, Ouranos, Eteocles, Charybdis, Hyperion, Moros, Stheno, Nereus, Perses, Caucasian Eagle;

ENTP: Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Sensing (Si);

Characters: Hermes, Odysseus, Prometheus, Oedipus, Sisyphus, Chimera, Eris, Atë, Enyo, Damocles, Proteus, Momus, Apate, Niobe, Hermaphroditus, Hippomenes;

INFJ: Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Sensing (Se);

Characters: Hestia, Hecate, Psyche, Circe, Oizys, Chione, Medusa, Cassandra, Iphigenia, Selene, Asclepcius, Chiron, Okeanos, Aether, Theia, Harmonia, Phoebe, Asteria, Astraeus, Alcmene, Callisto, Geryon and Orthus;

INFP: Introverted Feeling (Fi), Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Thinking (Te);

Characters: Persephone, Hypnos, Morpheus, Orpheus, Eurydice, Pygmalion, Antigone, Amphion, Plutus, Ariadne, Zephyrus, Euterpe, Hemera, Lethe, Bellerophon, Melpomene;

ENFJ: Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Thinking (Ti);

Characters: Apollo, Gaia, Atlas, Aeneas, Nike, Peitho, Peleus, Admetus, Calliope, Cadmus, Iasion;

ENFP: Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Feeling (Fi), Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Sensing (Si);

Characters: Dionysus, Eos, Icarus, Thalia, Ganymede, Polynices, Tyche, Philomela, Aglaea, Euphrosyne, Phaethon, Io, Iolaus, Clymene, Amphitryton;

ISTJ: Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Feeling (Fi), Extraverted Intuition (Ne);

Characters: Thanatos, Penelope, Electra, Clio, Echidna, Charon, Argus, Adrastea, Geras, Glaucus;

ISFJ: Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Intuition (Ne);

Characters: Demeter, Patroclus, Cyparissus, Telemachus, Ismene, Leto, Mnemosyne, Macaria, Polymnia, Leda, Thetis, Amphitrite, Maia, Euryale, Amalthea, Merope;

ESTJ: Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Feeling (Fi)

Characters: Hera, Poseidon, Cronus, Creon, Cerberus, Agamemnon, Menelaus, Zelus, Themis, Pentheus, Boreas, Zethus;

ESFJ: Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Sensing (Si), Extraverted Intuition (Ne), Introverted Thinking (Ti);

Characters: Hector, Perseus, Echo, Erato, Rhea, Eileithya;

ISTP: Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Feeling (Fe);

Characters: Artemis, Hephaestus, Polyphemus, Typhon, Pontus, Tartarus, Keres, Lycaon, Zagreus, Erychthonius;

ISFP: Introverted Feeling (Fi), Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Intuition (Ni), Extraverted Thinking (Te);

Characters: Narcissus, Achilles, Helen of Troy, Eros, Hebe, Andromeda, Iris, Orestes, Adonis, Triton, Endymion, Danae, Hyacinthus, Daphne;

ESTP: Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Thinking (Ti), Extraverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Intuition (Ni);

Characters: Ares, Pan, Heracles, Kratos, Midas, Theseus, Ajax the Greater, Jason, Orion, Iapetus, Priapus, Tityos, Pelops;

ESFP: Extraverted Sensing (Se), Introverted Feeling (Fi), Extraverted Thinking (Te), Introverted Intuition (Ni);

Characters: Aphrodite, Paris, Calypso, Epimetheus, Terpisichore, Atalanta, Hedone, Hyppolita, Lamia, Achelous;

[loving-family-poll]

Ultimate Incest Tournament - Round 2

Propaganda under the cut:

Antigone/Polynices:

Sometimes a sister just loves her brother a little too much <3

Antigone wanted to be buried thigh to thigh with her brother and her story is so deeply intertwined with his, you quite literally cant talk about her without talking about him. he devoted so much to their family and they're forever together in death

She risked her life defying her uncle the king to give him a proper burial, which did lead to her being sentenced to death!!

The children of Oedipus and Jocasta, incest being a family curse :) the cycle is cycling

"A husband or a child can be replaced but who can grow me a new brother?"

Ginger/Brigitte:

Codependent sisters and werewolves and angst <3

ginger giving into her desire for eating flesh making her horny…. lycanthropy used as a metaphor for gender nonconformity but also… another type of nonconformity…. “we were always considered freaks. there was us, and there was them.” “but you can’t break up with blood. you can’t divorce your sister.” “ginger shoves brigitte backward onto her bed. ginger piles on top of her, playfully pinning her down. GINGER: ‘i want more.’ brigitte squirms fitfully. BRIGITTE: ‘no, it’s too gross! you’ll get caught.’ GINGER: ‘not if you help, bee. i’m starving. tell me you don’t so dig it. tell me you don’t wanna see what happens.’” “SAM: ‘it’s called monkshood [wolfsbane] because people used to think it kept them pure from dirty thoughts. seriously.’ BRIGITTE: ‘make my life easier.’” “brigitte stirs in her sleep. ginger stands at the end of brigitte’s bed, staring at her.” i could just copy/paste the entire original script (such as brigitte masturbating to the sound of ginger having sex). and then it ends in one murdering the other and hugging her dead body. what more can you ask for.

"Out by sixteen or dead on the scene, but together forever."

"I'd rather die than be here without you"

"If I wasn't here would you eat her?" "God, that would be like, fucking her" *later wants to eat Brigitte*

"You know, we're almost not even related anymore."

[dragonfly756]

nobody appreciates antigones work on those embalming fluids at the mortician convention like the scented embalming fluids are actually probably difficult to make work though because the way embalming fluids are mixed is not! fixed! The chemical composition of the embalming fluid in each cadaver is developed based on where it will be shown, (specific formulations depending on whether they're going overseas for example.) not to mention dyes added to make the skin more lively. I would imagine chemical balance for bacteria fighting purposes is delicate and could be thrown off by certain types/percentages of fragrance. Not to mention the fact that with no heat source your fragrance would release differently than your standard perfume! (See mortuary makeup versus regular makeup techniques of you're interested, the blending and coverage are different as there's no blood flow and there are specific mortuary cosmetics though most mortuary makeup artists use a blend of normal and mortuary cosmetics depending on the deceased) like I'm not sure if antigone just scents the individual chemicals (And if so she probably needs to use different techniques for each one, not to mention considering the ways they could interact!) But really nobody in Canon seems to appreciate the level of skill this would take! She's an artist!!!!

[alatismeni-theitsa]

thank you for your response! i was originally thinking of getting “Σαυτὸν ἴσθι”

but i actually really like “Ηττώ υπέρ δικαίου” i think i may wear jewelry with the phrase carved into it firstly and then going from there. and i have seen your post on the misuse of Hellenismos! luckily; i was already made aware of this misuse of the word thanks to a content creator i like. i’ll definitely be keeping up with this blog to make sure i stay in my lane & respect Greek culture, while i’ve been practicing the Hellenic Polytheistic religion for many years i still have much to learn! such as, i had always been told online that modern Greeks don’t believe in or care about the “old religion” so it’s been really interesting to read about how that isn’t totally the case. :)

Ωωωω! Followup on the tattoo ask! :D Hello again! Hopefully you'll find the best way to carry the tenant with you!

Btw it grinds my gears when I see non-Greeks being so quick to say "modern Greeks don’t believe in or care about the gods anyway, why are they even talking".... Like BABE if it weren't for the Greeks who kept alive a large portion of the ancient texts on religion, philosophy, folk stories etc for more than a thousand years, you wouldn't have Greek myths to obsess over. There was indeed a time when Christians oppressed the Polytheists (also as a payback for the Polytheists doing the same to them in the past) but a few generations later people realized that this destruction would only make our ethnic memory and our heritage poorer, so they started copying and preserving the ancient texts.

Not to mention that Greece today has a huge archaeological sector, a ton of scholars, every town and city has its own archaeological museum, and we are taught the myths in context starting elementary school and analyze the epics and the ancient plays and other texts with classics professors and philologists from highschool already. Magazines frequently gift ancient plays, epics and philosophical texts, and you can find these editions pretty cheap in bookstores too, like 5 euros per play.

Our landscape is marked with ancient stories - everyone knows Zeus' mountains in Crete and Naxos, what Delos is to Apollo, what Cyprus is to Aphrodite, people continue living on Olympos as usual and we know it's considered the home of "our gods". (Instead of "Greek gods" we sometimes say "our gods" because... we are Greeks, so "our" and "Greek" are interchangeable in meaning.) Of course we consider the gods to be our important heritage figures. Even if a Greek feels like they don't have basic respect for the gods, they will still roll their eyes when seeing how the gods are portrayed in USAmerican media -meaning they have absorbed a type of respect for the deities through osmosis in Greece without realizing it.

Our public companies, streets, and groups/teams have names of gods and heroes. There are Christian Greeks baptized with the names of Greek gods, muses, and ancient heroes or play characters (Aphrodite, Athena, Ares, Demetra, Odysseus, Akhilleas, Patroklos, Dione, Thalia, Antigone etc) and that's not just a modern phenomenon. We just... kept our names through the ages.

Not every single Greek will be interested in those things because everyone has different passions and hobbies, but Greece as a whole continues to record and safekeep all things ancient. The Ottoman occupation was harsh for us and we lost access to education and the science of archaeology for a while but we started getting educated again on our past as soon as we were able to offer our people decent public education (when we gained our freedom).

Many Greeks see the ancient religion as a level "behind" in human rights and religious philosophy, and like a stage we have overgrown as a nation. However, this doesn't contradict the basic respect one gets for the gods as soon as they do a basic study of the material readily available all around them, and the whole stance that the country keeps toward our gods.

I didn't intend to write that much but, ya know, I get very irritated just thinking how people with no idea about Greece's history make assumptions about us just to win an argument online.

Thank you for making it this far! It's great you are taking the initiative to ask and learn! Gaining knowledge of a different religion and culture is always a difficult but rewarding journey! For your patience, I will leave you with a few verses of one of our classic poems:

As you set out for Ithaka hope your road is a long one, full of adventure, full of discovery. Laistrygonians, Cyclops, angry Poseidon—don’t be afraid of them: you’ll never find things like that on your way as long as you keep your thoughts raised high, as long as a rare excitement stirs your spirit and your body. [...]

Keep Ithaka always in your mind. Arriving there is what you’re destined for. But don’t hurry the journey at all. Better if it lasts for years, so you’re old by the time you reach the island, wealthy with all you’ve gained on the way, not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey. Without her you wouldn't have set out. She has nothing left to give you now.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you. Wise as you will have become, so full of experience, you’ll have understood by then what Ithakas mean.

(Ithaki , Konstantinos Kavafis, 1911)