#JSA 1999 comics

[littlemonstert-blog]

If they contiuned on them being a couple. I would have loved this so much. I wanted to see where they could've go. But Green arrow came back...sigh (JSA 1999 issue 8/16)

I get the reason i guess but to dump him so suddenly.

They were so cute (JSA #21)

Maybe one day we could see these two toether again.

[lunar-sams]

this was funnier in my head

[fancyfade]

Noah fence to the JSA characters, but I feel like the JSA being a huge inspiration for the league only ever comes up in JSA comics

[ufonaut]

We're not escaping. It's illegal. And as a physician, I would prefer you didn't take another pill ever.

JSA Returns: Smash Comics (1999) #1

(Tom Peyer, Stephen Sadowski)

[trust-and-jump]

"...the headlines Batman's lunatics get"

Even other cities' criminals hate Gotham's ones.

Well. It's Gotham. Even Intergang didn't fit there after all.

Identity Crisis - JSA (1999) #67

[zaritarazi]

day after day it is truly impossible for me to tell if i hate comic books or the people that write about them more like

how dare you imply that kendra is the one in heat and not carter

i have known carter hall, sir. i have worked with him. that is barely him at a simmer.

you do not deserve him in heat

[shayerathals]

you know after finding out that geoff johns was trying to hint at carter hall being mentally ill, i kind of don't want to see the 'stalker' thing being used against him (which lasted for three issues anyways) because it really was a severe lack of regard from geoff johns part

[waspredteeth]

Wasp’s Comics Review (more like rambling, none of this is filtered thought)

Here’s some comics I’ve been reading in order to give me more motivation to keep writing the TAXONOMY!verse. Most of these are here in order to inform my personal views of characterization and how I’d write certain people based on their comics pre-2009/Bruce-Death.

Comics I have just recently finished/coming close to finishing:

Titans (1999)

Batgirl (2000)

JSA (2007)

Daredevil (2014)

Infinite Crisis

Battle for the Cowl

Blackest Night

Gotham Central

Nightwing (1999) #51-53

Robin (1993) #183

Titans (1999)

Okay, wow. I wasn’t expecting how good it would be. I started reading it mostly for Damage-Grant Emerson since I heard he had a nice relationship with Roy, and there’s a couple issues where Bette and Gar show up. Despite a few moments where the comic shows it’s age, I’m pleasantly surprised at its overall quality and character writing. Before this, I had only a little bit of prior knowledge of the Titans, so I really got to know them from this. My only gripes with it is that I don’t get to see Grant again (in a speaking/active role) after Roy drops him off at the reservation, and I think that storyline where Argent turns out to be dating a kid is weird. This comic has also given me more appreciation for Roy and Lian. I can understand Arrowfans now, Lian shouldn’t have been killed. Wtf, man. I got attached to her. I also think Roy and Cheshire’s relationship was interesting. Garth is not a huge character in this run, but I appreciate the kind of characters that are little more drama-free. (Not totally) (again, knowing Dolphin/Cerdian from this run, wtf man. Why do so many kids die in the 90s/early 2000s?!?) In conclusion, Roy Harper and Garth are now way higher up on my list of favorite DC characters. I also enjoyed Donna Troy, even though I had no prior context to all of the Dark Angel/mind wipe stuff.

Batgirl (2000)

This was a re-read, since I last read it around 2021. I forgot a pretty good portion of the early issues, so reading it again gave me renewed appreciation for the writers and Cass’s character. It reminded me just how great her character is, and definitely refreshes my ideas about her. I will be taking this in greater consideration when I get into her role in Chiroptera. I’m still not a Cass expert though, so if anyone else has some good ideas about how she would gain the Batman mantle and fight ideologically with Jason over it - thoughts are needed!!

JSA (2007)

Another re-read. Mostly here bc I needed to refresh Grant post-Zoom attack and Tom Bronson in my mind. Now that I’ve read Titans 1999, I can see how some people might take his characterization in JSA as different and a little ooc. My POV is, Grant in JSA is older so he’s gonna be different no matter what - it doesn’t bother me as much. When he shows up in the TAXONOMY!verse though, I am definitely including his familial relationship with Roy & Lian, and maybe hinting towards his brief friendship with Toni. I do think that Roy should’ve made at least one appearance in JSA for Grant.

Daredevil (2014)

My only non-DC read this month. I mostly read this bc I needed to step away from DC content, but also I like seeing the differences in the writing of vigilantes between Marvel/DC. I want to include just a bit of the grounded chaos from this Daredevil run into the au. Also, the utter insane angst that Matt goes through. This man is constantly struggling.

Infinite Crisis/Battle for the Cowl/Blackest Night

They’re…events. Not much else to say. Somehow I need to figure out how to work out the whole “Bette got teleported onto another Earth” in the au. Also, I think I will be keeping Grant’s death. Not because I like it, but because I need the emphasis of loss and grief (for Tom) for the themes of Chiroptera to work. I’m going to resurrect him eventually. No way he’s staying dead.

Gotham Central

Unrelated to the au. I just wanted to reread some Renee Montoya stuff.

Nightwing #51-53; Robin #183

Exclusively read bc it takes place right before Battle for the Cowl. This will inform a bit of my characterization for Dick and Tim. Will give a disclaimer though, I am way more familiar with Dick’s character now than I am Tim’s. I’ve read Nightwing 1996 more than once and I’ve gained further insight from Titans 1999- so hopefully I have a better idea of him. I’ve attempted to read Young Justice (1998) but I’ve never finished it yet. I’ve only read the Robin issues that crossover with No Man’s Land and War Games before this. I have my work cut out for me with Tim’s content *sigh*

[fyeahkendraandcarter]

OK sorry about that realized 1 of the options in the poll was very unclear

[remyreadscomics]

You know that feeling when you finish a series that’s just long enough that you already want to reread it the second you’re done.. that’s a very annoying feeling.

[haveyoureadthiscomic-poll]

Hi, I have noticed a lot of blogs like @haveyouheardthisband @haveyouseenthismovie-poll @haveyouheardthispodcast @haveyoureadthisbook-poll @haveyouseenthisseries-poll @haveyoureadthisseries-poll @haveyoureadthismanga-poll @haveyouseenthisanime-poll @doyouknowthisartist @haveyoueatenthis @doyoulikethissong-blog and have decided to do one for the noble art of print comics runs.

I am curious to see which comics the tumblr comics fandom (as well as anyone outside if you're interested) has actually read, as well as to spread some comics recs because as you may have guessed by my icon I am languishing in rare character hell.

Poll options will be "Yes", "Partially", "No" and "Haven't Even Heard of this Comic" and I will accept comics both from the Big Two and through Indie Publishers. Please submit suggestions through the askbox in the format of proper title and year the run was published, such as JSA (1999) or Batman (2016).

I will be tagging posts with the name of the comic as well as the publishing company to reach a wider audience.

Feel free to reblog with propaganda as to why people should read your niche 80s comic blorbos, I think that would be fun.

Anyway have fun!

[bitimdrake]

Young Justice reading order 👀

Yeah! This one's pretty simple. If you just read straight down the bolded comics, you're good.

Optionally, you can start with the first meetings between the future members. I've only read some of these, but it's:

Robin Plus Impulse #1

WF3: World's Finest Three (Superboy/Robin) #1-2

Superboy and the Ravers #7 - Kon and Bart

Impulse #28, #41 - Bart and Cissie

And then we get into the actual Young Justice content:

Young Justice: The Secret #1 (1998)

JLA: World Without Grown-Ups #1-2 (1998)

Young Justice vol 1 (1999) #1-2

optional DC One Million tie-in: Young Justice #1,000,000

Young Justice #3-4

Secret Origins 80-Page Giant #1 (1998)

Young Justice: Secret Files and Origins #1 (1999)

Young Justice #5-7

Young Justice 80-Page Giant (1999)

Young Justice #8-10

Young Justice Special #1 - tie-in to No Man's Land

Young Justice #11

Heck's Angels crossover: Young Justice #12 / Supergirl vol 4 #36 / Young Justice #13 / Supergirl #37

Young Justice #14 - tie-in to Day of Judgement

Young Justice #15-19

Young Justice had its own event, Sins of Youth, with a bunch of oneshots for various characters. Honestly just pick the ones for characters you're invested in:

Young Justice: Sins of Youth #1

Superboy vol 4 #74

Young Justice: Sins of Youth Secret Files and Origins

Sins of Youth: JLA, Jr. #1

Sins of Youth: Aquaboy and Lagoon Man #1

Sins of Youth: Batboy and Robin #1

Sins of Youth: Kid Flash and Impulse #1

Sins of Youth: Starwoman and the JSA, Jr. #1

Sins of Youth: Superman, Jr. and Superboy, Sr. #1

Sins of Youth: Wonder Girls #1

Sins of Youth: Secret and Deadboy #1

Young Justice: Sins of Youth #2

And then we finish up the series (with a couple extra notes to keep you up to date on the solos):

Young Justice #20-34

Our Worlds at War tie-ins: Young Justice: Our Worlds at War #1 / optional Superboy #89-90 / Young Justice #35-36 / Impulse #77 / optional Superboy #91 / Young Justice #37

Young Justice #38 - tie-in to Joker: Last Laugh

Young Justice #39-44

World Without Young Justice: Impulse #85 / Robin #101 / Superboy #99 / Young Justice #45

optional Impulse #86

Young Justice #46-55

The team ended with Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day #1-3. At that point, half the members faded into the background and the other half moves over to Teen Titans vol 3, found over in my Titans reading order.

[zahri-melitor]

I was discussing this with a friend of mine and I’d be interested to know your take.

We’re both big comics nerds for the batfam, and we’ve come to the consensus that even with the out of pocket moments, arcs that don’t hold up well(fugitive comes to mind), and the slew of other post crisis issues—We think the best version of the batfam would be right before Damian was introduced.

I know how this makes me sound and I’m not sorry, Tim as robin was great and I loved him as the younger brother of the fam but also not bruce’s son let them be weird friends like before identity cri-

I’m getting off topic. I apologize.

Batfam feels very bloated modern day, and I genuinely preferred when Jason was a crime lord, Dick and Tim were close tightknit brothers. Babs was oracle and Cass was batgirl. I’d want Steph to be alive and not taking cass’s job but one thing at a time. (also tim and cass are lovely as siblings/friends)

What is your ideal batfamily composition, what do you have the most fun with?

And I hope you’re doing well!

Oh here’s a dangerous question.

My favourite period of Bat comics is probably, hmmm, 1996 to 2004. Not only are there some great writers doing work during that period, the family dynamics are interesting and complex because there's fun levels of tension between various members, but also there are almost equal numbers of male and female characters and the women are allowed to be messy and complex and flawed while still heroic. You've got Bruce, Dick, Tim, Barbara, Helena, and Jean-Paul, plus Cass from 1999 onwards, with assistance from Steph, Selina and Dinah to varying degrees.

What characters and dynamics do I find the most fun? Well, I like there to be tension in the Bat family. I like every person in the group to be linked in differently, with different relationships with other members, rather than being "Bruce and his kids". There's this concept I have of what is the 'core' of the Batfam in the period between 1995 and 2009: it's not Bruce, it's actually a trio, consisting of Dick, Tim and Barbara, all of whom who have very strong ties to each other, managing and balancing the rest of the family between them.

Dick manages the broader community ties, rather than the Gotham ones. Dick's the one who all the other families know and are most likely to approach for help; he's got the respect of the Titans but also of the Justice League. Dick is basically the public relations guy standing between the Bats and everyone else.

Tim is the glue of Gotham. Tim knows everyone in Gotham and has teamed up with them at some point and knows how to convince them to come and help out, even if they aren't on good terms with the rest of the Bats, and can force people who are normally opposed to work together. Tim's the reason all the Gotham vigilantes aren't six separate bitter blood feuds or a perpetual mafia war.

Barbara is the expertise. She's not only the coordinator and planner who ensures that everything runs smoothly, who has everyone's contact details and the ability to pull in the specific assistance needed, but she also maintains contacts that still see Dick as 'Bruce's kid' with the way most of the Justice League only are familiar with her as an adult hero. She's got the best JSA contacts via Dinah. She can stand up to Bruce and tell him to back down and pull his head in in a way the other two cannot. And she's the only one of the three who has a proper working relationship with Jean-Paul Valley.

The changes in the Batfamily dynamics by firstly removing Barbara from Gotham, and then adding Jason and especially Damian, forced the shape of the dynamics to centre themselves around "Bruce and his sons" and "everyone else", rather than being a spread network that converged on a trio.

My ideal Batfamily? It's Bruce, Dick, Barbara, Tim, Cass and Damian. While I think that Damian is part of a very clear change of direction in storytelling, I think there are worthwhile stories to tell about his dynamics with the others listed here, and on balance he allows for new directions of storytelling.

(Yes, there's an obvious name missing there. It's deliberate. I remain unconvinced that having Jason around as 'family' is a better use of his character than as a ghost haunting the narrative or, if he must be alive, as an extremely irritating villain)

[fancyfade]

Ominar Synn making a dating profile like "height 7.5 feet but more if I increase my body mass with ntt metal. Not looking for anything serious if I'm feeling cute later I might eat your soul."

[ufonaut]

As Per Degaton falls through time in Justice Society of America (2022) #4, his first appearance in All-Star Comics (1940) #35 can be seen, as well as subsequent cover recreations from America vs. the Justice Society (1985) #4 and JSA (1999) #72. Interestingly enough, America vs. the Justice Society has long been counted as erased from continuity!

Art by Mikel Janin, Irwin Hasen, Jerry Ordway, and Alex Ross respectively.

[dcsnextgaycharacter]

what the fuck is ur header lmao

JSA 1999 comic where Kendra kisses Sanderson Hawkins and he responds like this...