#MCU fantastic four

[brainrotcharacters]

It's hilarious how the visceral adoration Wade felt for Captain America was equaled only by the visceral hatred he felt for Johnny Storm

[poppetsisters]

Now that my rage over the Doomcasting has simmered down, I just wanna gush over the Fantastic Four comi con stuff.

I'm not joking, when I heard that Michael Giacchino was doing the score, I SCREAMED. Not only is he famous for scoring The Incredibles, but he also did Speed Racer from 2008 which, if you haven't heard that score, it is one of the best scores for any film I've seen.

The period accurate footage is such a treat. I figured Matt Shakman's work on Wandavision was going to be indicative of what the Fantastic Four was gonna look like and yet it looks even better. I was nervous that Shakman's lack of feature film experience was gonna be a detriment, but his decades of work on TV gives him amazing instincts for character dynamics, which is one of the most important assets when making a Fantastic Four movie.

A lot of what we saw is pre-vis and may not actually be in the movie, but the retro-future vibe of the movie is perfect. The fact that MCU Fantastic Four is taking place in its own separate pocket away from all the bullshit really helps me feel excited for this movie. For once, the disconnectedness is something I'm EXCITED about, go figure.

Again, because it's pre-vis, not a whole lot of glimpses at The Thing's rocky form, in fact none of the powers were shown off for understandable reasons. I have no worries that The Thing is going to look good. As bad as Fant4stic was, The Thing looked pretty good in that film. Korg also never looked outright bad to me either, and they're probably gonna put more effort into how he looks anyway. Sue's powers are probably gonna be represented well seeing as invisibility is a really easy power to do VFX for. Fire graphics have come a long way as well, and that concept art makes me thing they may take a very stylised approach to his flame effects. Reed however is the one I'm really worried about. The only time stretch powers looked good was The Incredibles 1 and 2, but those were both stylised 3D animated filma. Live action has a much higher bar to clear with a heavy risk of uncanny valley Pedro Pascal. If you can make that man look bad, then you know you fucked up.

The Fantasticar is nice. We had the Dodge in Rise of Silver Surfer and the Bathtub in Deadpool and Wolverine, and though I like the Silver Surfer one (despite the shameless product placement) I get that they wanted a car that looked like a mid-century man's idea of what a flying car looks like. The only think is that I wish it could split apart into four sections, it doesn't look like it can do that. Oh well.

The spacesuits look good, the colours are exactly what I imagined they'd be on the concept art, but I'm waiting for the proper super suits to be shown off. Hopefully they have less interlocking parts and resemble the slightly thick and comfy spandex we saw in the concept art.

It looks like Pedro is keeping the moustache, which normally I'm not a fan of Reed with facial hair, but I also think it gives Reed a sorta Howard Hughes look that helps him blend in with the aesthetics of the world. The grey around the temples is good though, and it seems like he's also doing a transatlantic accent which frankly is very surprising.

I thought that Ebon wasn't doing an accent until I rewatched him during an interview. He appears to be toning down his natural tendency to draw out his A's and E's. It was only two lines of dialogue so I don't know, but what is very apparent is that he's not going for the outrageous brooklyn accent The Thing is legendary for in the comics, but something a little more subtle and believable.

Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn are both different flavors of British, and though Joseph only says one word, it's pretty clear both are foregoing their natural accents. That said, Vanessa's choice of, what I can only guess is a slight mid-western accent, is very interesting. I was not expecting that choice.

They added a subtitle to the movie. Fantastic 4: First Steps. I think they didn't need to add a subtitle, but since they did. I'll just give it a cursory analysis. I think you can derive FOUR meanings from the title: First Steps calls to mind humanity's first steps on the Moon, fitting for a space age tale. First Steps also feels like a good title for their first adventure. First Steps works metatextually as their first steps into the MCU (which isn't technically true with those two cameos in MoM and D&W), but the most important theory I have for First Steps is in relation to a baby's first steps. I think that Franklin is going to be in this movie as a major plot point. Serving what purpose, I'm not sure.

To finish things off, we only get a look at Galactus through a window, so not much I can comment on in terms of appearance, but I'm very happy that it's an actual dude and not shadows within a cosmic cloud. He looks very imposing and I hope we get more perspective shots like that to sell how big this guy is.

[charnauk]

fuck offfff they were actually doing well with the recommendations then they had to end it with throwing that life story trashfire in there. Don't you dare inflict that evil onto the unsuspecting mainstream public Marvel.

[bloodyrook]

I know we all knew the doctor doom casting was gonna be bad but jesus fucking christ. I already can't stomach anything with tony stark in it because of the mcu and they're doing it again

[short-wooloo]

I think it would be really funny if Hayden Christensen played Dr. Doom in that new Fantastic Four movie

[omg-gojo]

Making Susan and Johnny Storm POC is a genius idea and I thank you for it

OMG O.M.G. I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD MY ASKBOX OPEN!!!! I'M SO SORYYYYY I DIDN'T KNOW, I'M JUST REALIZING

Thank you! I really liked the idea of them being POC, I was really on a debate for Susan's eyes because I didn't want to put blue eyes to show power. But at the end I decided to leave them to reflect more like her mutation because of the cosmic radiation (reed deforms into slime with fatigue, Johnny's fire it's really mix with his emotions and Ben changed to the Thing), to look even between the four of them.

Susan really misses her dark eyes.

Also for a little headcanon, the Storms are afro-puertorican but his father had a big Nono with letting them speak spanish, only his aunt Jewel taught him a little later in life. In my AU América Chávez first multiversal guardian was Johnny (from another universe) for a long Time (he was the One that gave her her flamed painted jacket) so in the mean time América taught him spanish.

Susan learned it in a volunteering of health care in Mexico (and a little bit of mayan too *wink wink*)

[ironborealis]

I don't for a single second believe that RDJ is playing Von Doom, because why give it away like this for free?

Besides the fact that F4 is consistent underperforming franchise in a larger franchise that is losing traction and please God come see this movie or we're going to have to start putting down the VFX animators because we can't afford to feed them...

Nah, Disney is trying to trick us into buying tickets, and you'll get there and it turns out that RDJ is just playing Tony Stark at a Halloween party dressed up in a green cape and a silly robot mask in Reed's flashback, where Tony asks if Reed really should do the thing because it sounds like a bad idea, like there might be consequences, and at some point he says:

"Reed... You are a fantastic physicist..."

And Tony drops the robot mask and dips from his conversation with Reed because the USA Olympic women's beach volleyball team has just entered the room. Inexplicably in uniform.

Then Von Doom picks up robot mask. End scene.

[soapywankenopy]

Just so everyone knows, I do not like the casting of RDJ as Doctor Doom

Can we actually cast someone Romani as a Romani character for once?

I love Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Johnson, and I like RDJ, but seriously, guys??

Also, it's just weird to cast RDJ

I don't like it at all.

[nerdgirljen]

NOT A DRILL NOT A DRILL!

Joseph Quinn is the new Johnny Storm in the MCU!!!! *squee*

[doamarierose-honoka]

Marvel has given free access to 5 comics to prepare for the ‘FANTASTIC FOUR’ film.

• ‘Fantastic Four #1’ (1961)

• ‘Fantastic Four #48 - 50’ (First appearance of Galactus & Silver Surfer)

• ‘Fantastic Four: Life Story #1’ (2021)

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1775891006736720125?s=46

[fionapplespiano]

I'm excited that Marvel Studios is finally getting off their asses, and beginning to work on the live-action X-Men reboot.

But at the same time, remembered how much of a bloodbath the Fantastic Four casting was, and I can't help but feel like the X-Men is going to be even worse. Like I'm pretty sure the official casting announcement is going to cause World War 3 on the internet.

[webshootersandwingdings]

While I’m not personally sold on the casting, one thing I wanted from a Fantastic Four movie was a 1960’s setting and it looks like we might actually get it! I hope we get an era appropriate animated intro as well.

[poppetsisters]

ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, LET'S ANALYSE THIS!!

So that map shows us some key locations. I was wondering what that tall building was in the pre-vis, and it's confirmed that that's the Baxter Building. The version in the pre-vis didn't have the 4 logo, so it's either going to be added after their rocket launch, or it's just for us to identify the FF headquarters on the map. Cute that their rocket is called the Excelsior Launch Pad, not just because it's Stan Lee's catchphrase, but because Excelsior literally means "ever upward" fitting for a rocket.

Time Square is featured. I can see a world symbol on the main corner building, but I also see a space themed establishment next to an ABC building, so despite taking place in an alternate New York, there will be products and brands from the real world making an appearance. I wonder if ABC is the people recording all that archival footage in-universe.

The Flatiron building is featured, but it doesn't appear to have any significance to the FF in the comics. It did serve as the headquarters for Damage Control though.

Yancy Street is front and centre on the map, I can see a deli, a synagogue, and a few apartment complexes. I'm very happy that Ben Grimm's jewish heritage is on display, even if the star of david is one of those blink and you'll miss it parts of the poster.

Speaking of blink and you'll miss it, right under Wall Street is a label for Subterranea!! Cute reference or foreshadowing to a Mole Man appearance in the movie? I think they should absolutely fight a Kirby monster in the opening of the movie.

The Williamsburg and Brooklyn Bridge are also featured. Other than the scene from 2005 Fantastic Four where they save a fire truck, I can't think of any significance this may have for the team.

We also have the Statue of Liberty, but on Govenor's Island is The FF Clean Energy Complex. I have no doubt this EBCOT looking area is gonna have some significance for the plot of the film. Maybe an explosion caused by a bad guy? Maybe Galactus drains the nuclear fission cells dry? Who knows.

If y'all noticed anything else from the poster, let me know.

[bloodyrook]

I've come to the conclusion that i wont like any casting for the mcu fantastic four cause i don't want it, i want the ff to get a good animated series. why aren't they doing any animated series its the best medium for superhero stuff. they could have it seperated from the overly connected movie verse and give their streaming platform some appeal that won't effect their movies boxoffice success. i mean come on disney was built on animation and now they own all these properties and nothing

[chriscdcase95]

Is it weird that I hope Doctor Doom isn't the Big Bad in the MCU’s Fantastic 4 ?

Like I’m not saying exclude him entirely - I have no doubt with the right writers, they could introduce Victor and build up his presence for Avengers: The Secret Wars...but he doesn’t necessarily need to be center stage in F4.

Let me explain. Doom has been the Big Bad of three of the past live action F4 movies. He was the secondary antagonist in Rise of the Silver Surfer, and even then they pull the “Hijacked By Ganon” card.

And I’m just sitting her like “Why not give the Mole Man a shot?”

Plus with the Skrulls being built up to in Secret Invasion, the Skrulls and Kree were also recurring antagonists to the Fantastic 4, and I doubt they’d wrap up that arc in a miniseries. So perhaps they’d be the main threat in F4 ?

And it’s not like they could exclude Doom entirely. MCU’s Fantastic Four isn’t meant to be an origin movie, so they could establish Doom as being a villain they fought in the past, in some unseen origin story. 

Maybe they establish Victor as being someone of importance, especially to Sue and Reed, without him being the threat they’re up against. Doom could be the Greater Scope Villain, someone who has/had an effect on the, but little to no direct presence in the story. 

Or he could be a supporting character, put into an Enemy Mine situation, so they could directly build his relationship with them, but unlike Rise of the Silver Surfer, he doesn’t betray them by the end of the film...they’d still plant the seeds setting up a villain role in Secret Wars.