#POC brony

[nylon-glowstix]

You know you black if you've heard this a few times 💀💀

[fortheloveofpiggy]

Edit: the YouTuber contradicts their self in a different post so I no longer am sure their info is valid. But I think the info on the origin of the word is true based on other things I’ve seen

I put in the energy and I decided my stance on the word “tupla.” Before anyone gets mad at me I want to say I am not gonna block or get mad at you for using the word tupla. I don’t know your race or religion and frankly what words you use is none of my business. And I’m not gonna go all “dni tupla” or anything because It’s not that deep. Also I support the idea behind tupla just the name for it is flawed

But, I do suggest especially white and non Asian people to do your research on where the term came from and the racist use of it online before it became a popular plural term.

I’ll site my source at the end but I’ll also do a tldr of my source:

Tldr: Before popular in the plural community, tupla was a demonized and often racist term usually used to describe creepy pastas for example slender man was called a tupla. Then the term was picked up by the brony community who were still using it in a racist way where it was popularized as a plural term. “Tuplamancy” also isn’t the practices name. It’s a combination of “tupla” (Buddhist practice) and the root word “mancy” which is Greek. The way our community uses tuplas are also different then the way Buddhist did/will so we essentially took a word, demonized it, then used it incorrect

Source:

Anyways just keep it in mind I’m not your dad I don’t control you but listen to Asian people and poc please :)

[opinated-user]

Ppl need to stop covering for creeps who just happen to be in the same group as them. You had this with bronies or furries too, where ppl refused to acknowledge the weirdos in their community bc it's a "stereotype". You should always be the person who calls out the creeps in your own community, otherwise the only ppl who do so are the bad faith actors who most ppl in the community will never listen to anyway.

for the record, being skeptical about allegations levied against members of a community that is commonly vilified is completely reasonable. not only because we can't be jumping the gun and throw to people all the expected consequences of a guilty person without knowing if they are guilty, but also because by doing so we could be just contributing to that vilification that in the real world causes real violence, systematic and otherwise, to happen to those marginalized people. if you see someone accusing a trans woman/POC/queer person/disabled/etc person of being abusive, the wisest thing to do is to look into the evidence and see what is happening. in general, this is a good practice. ... the thing is with LO specifically pretending like she cares about other trans woman and how they're perceived, when not that long ago she was more than glad to weaponize transphobia against them. especially when so many of the allegations are coming from other trans people. most of us who criticize LO are trans people. we're calling out the creeps in our communities because we don't want people to get hurt and also we call out transphobia whenever we can see it. LO had the absolute easiest call out in the entire world when asstrid started misgendering and deadnaming Sunny. even if she doesn't believe that sunny was raped, at least she cares about explicit and obvious transphobia, right? wrong. she couldn't even do even that. because doing so would paint Sunny as a victim and in LO's mind, none of her "stalkers" can be victims of anything or anyone. it disrupts her entire narrative about how victim can never be to blame for anything, which in turn is how she wants to portray herself, just a victim, never an abuser.Sunny said that LO was a racist creep, therefore he can't be a victim. and Courtney and Brittany and you know the story. the only thing in LO's mind is how she can be susceptible to more people finding out about her sex pest behavior, so by hammering hard with the "trans women are always just victim of smear campaigns and you need hardcore evidence to lawyer up so then take those allegations seriously" she makes sure for her audience that they'll also hesitate to believe everything we say about LO. even if we have video evidence of LO doing the thing we accuse her off. even if we have archived evidence. even if she herself admits it on the most rond about way possible.

[angelnamedcreature]

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Hi! I’m Angel :)

I also go by Demon & Creature.

I’m (a(n))…

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✧ neurodivergent person

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✧ 19 years old!

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Preferred pronouns:

✧ He/Him

✧ Ze/Zem

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[cowboylikedean]

You don't understand it because you are not a poc person that was targeted by his disgusting behaviour. She is in a romantic relationship with him. Despite knowing the things he said/did. Her values should be questioned if she is willing to date a man who made multiple racist/misogynistic comments after saying things like "there is nothing worse than white supremacy". She talked about our community yet she is giving a platform (yes she is doing that by letting him perform on the stage every night) to a known racist who harmed the community. And there are a lot of POC people like me who was hurt by the fact that she would do this. Her tour was supposed to be a safe space for us but having a racist there is far from that. If these are the things he would say out loud imagine the things he would say in private. After saying she cares about poc fans not giving him a platform is the bare minimum she can do. And before you bring up his friendship with phoebe, idc about her. I was fan of Taylor not her.And before you ask where this energy was when they were friends, I believed that in entertainment industry you have to be on good terms with everyone even if they are shit people. But getting romantically linked with someone who goes against everything she said she stands for is certainly a choice and makes you question how much of her activism was real and how much of it was performative. Fans have every right to be upset

"But getting romantically linked with someone who goes against everything she said she stands for is certainly a choice and makes you question how much of her activism was real and how much of it was performative."

No. like...

Obviously you have a right to be hurt! obviously you have a right to hate him, and hate that she's dating him and hate that he's there. but like..... dating someone (and btw, Tree has made it very clear, they're just sleeping together) does not mean that you sign off on all their values and everything they say and do.

My beautiful partner whom I love dearly dated a brony. a real life honest to god brony. and she didn't absorb his values! and she long term dated him too.

people are complicated so its not as simple as "if you associate with this person, you agree with everything they've done and obviously didn't mean anything you said before."

taylor can hate everything matty does on stage and still like having sex with him. and the hell of it is, there is not a damn thing any of us can do about that.

And also, this is not without context. as I've said many times, Matty has said that this outrageous controversial shit is a performance. I know plenty of men like that. they're racist and sexist and disgusting because they think that harm isn't real if it's a "joke." often, they don't... mean the harm they say... they just like the power they get from others being upset. and that's objectively bad. but it's not the same as actually believing the shit.

and then there's taylor. taylor just got out of a 6.5 year relationship, broke an engagement, and just bought a house with this man. matty has spent the last 9 years talking about how he should have been nicer to her every chance he gets. so her sleeping with him... makes sense.

i hate it. i hate him. i wish he was not around. he actually fills me with so much gross dread and i HATE seeing them together. my heart drops when i see a picture of them and the shape of his name makes me want to vomit.

but i get it. he talked for years about how he did it wrong and should have done it right and he doesn't actually mean the harm, he just doesn't understand he is still harmful and is a man who has a thing for power, as white men do... and taylor is not in her right mind right now.

i hate it. i hate him. this is objectively a mistake, something i wish she was not doing. but i can't just... not think about this with empathy and also, i'm not going to hold her accountable for his actions.

[cupidsintern]

back in my lesbian mlp era bronys dni (jk hello to all my queer and poc bronys in the trenches im sorry your fandom went tits up w the white supremacists)

[taylorslovesswifties]

BABYDOLL EP. 5

June 8, 2014

According to the news I heard from my brother, some more of Charles' friends are coming. I can't even get along with the Leclerc brothers, how can I get along with their friends! I was hiding in the kitchen and sitting in a corner away from everyone else. I was at the most exciting part of the book I was reading when I heard a knock at the kitchen door and I looked up. They were about to kiss!

"Are you really hiding here, Bronie?"

"Are you invited too, Gasly?" He came over and after a short hug he planted a wet kiss on my cheek. That's the kind of kissing I hate the most.

"You're disgusting."

"I love you too, Belle." I giggled and gave him a light punch on the shoulder.

"Do you know that a close friend of Charles is coming?" I looked up from my book and closed it with a huff.

"What friend? "What close friend?" Oh, God, please don't let it be a girlfriend, please don't let it be a girlfriend.

"I think a very, very close friend of him is coming. "You know." I blinked my eyes, time had stopped for me. I was like, "What friend?

"A very, very close friend? Like a lover?" I must have stayed with my eyes open for a long time because Pierre waved his hand as if to wake me up from hypnosis.

"Are you okay? I was scared, Anna, because you were staring at the wall without blinking." I shook the jumbled thoughts from my mind and closed my eyes tightly to regain my composure. My eyelashes seemed to stick together.

"Go back to this close friends thing." He must have been confused by my harsh tone because he suddenly threw his hands up in surrender. I giggled and stretched my legs out on the chair I had pulled up next to me.

"So it's like a flirtation. Her name is Alexandra, they moved here from Italy. "She wants to study art history or something." Fuck! Fuck! Fuck you, literally!

"Flirting? So it's like a flirtation, which is a step before a relationship?"

"Bella, seriously, what's wrong with you? Are you jealous?" I couldn't help myself and gave a big laugh to cover my embarrassment.

"Is it so obvious?" I whispered quietly.

"Of course it's obvious. Don't be so obvious that you're madly in love with him. Besides, I'm sure he and that girl are just flirting. She's not even Charles' type." What was Charles's type anyway?

"I'm not blindly in love with him, for one. We don't know what's going to happen with her yet, two. Charles doesn't even know what type Charles likes, that's three."

"Charles doesn't know what Charles' type is, but I do. You're his type and he doesn't know it yet."

"Don't make silly word games with me and get to the point."

"I'll be right there. He's an idiot, he's interested in you, but he only sees you as the little sister of his best friend. You have to change his mind, you have to get yourself out of this little sister mold. And don't be so obvious that you like him." He liked me, but at the time I didn't like him. Now things had changed.

"Okay. Don't show you like him, be unattainable, change your mind. I'm all for it. I'll try. I just, I don't know. If he's flirting with that girl, won't he choose her over me?"

"Sooner or later she'll choose you, trust me. We'll work on it together." So I trusted him, nodded and we dropped the subject. I left my book on the counter and followed Pierre out of the kitchen with my eyes. Had he really given up on me or was this just a simple ploy to make me jealous? Unfortunately, I didn't have an answer to these questions. All I know is that Charles doesn't like me one bit anymore. Leaving my book on the wide counter, I left the kitchen and walked around the yacht, hoping to find my friends. Uncle Herve was gathering the men around him, giving them the yacht learning tests he did every summer and never, ever tired of. The middle-aged man looked up and addressed me coming up the stairs.

"Would you like to join us, Anna? If Charles gets any more of my questions wrong, I'll go mad." Charles looked at his father quizzically and folded the map back into the pocket of his khaki green shorts.

"Yes, you'd better come here, Anna, because I'm getting really bored with my father's questions. I feel like strangling myself." Had he called me to join him? It was slightly windy and I was already starting to feel cold. God, I couldn't even think about the evening. Besides, I'd been waiting for a chance to be alone with him since we'd gotten here, but it had never come. And on top of that I found out she was flirting with someone! A thousand daggers in my heart, friends, that's the only way I can explain this pain. When Uncle Herve asked me, instead of Charles, the questions that Charles didn't know, I listed the ones that remained in my memory without difficulty.

"Good, good. Charles, why don't you take lessons from Anna, son? She answered them all correctly." Charles exasperatedly let out the breath he had filled his lungs with and fixed his lush green eyes on my contrasting blue ones. Everyone on the deck moved away, leaving Anna and Charles alone.

"Wow, you managed to impress my father. I have no idea how you did it, but she was proud that you remembered the things she taught you. I'm sure she feels like a teacher." I was still staring at Charles, trying to understand what he was trying to say. It was as if what he was saying was going in one ear and out the other and I couldn't comprehend it. Why was I so nervous around him?

"I remember these things because I listened to what your father said, unlike you." Charles couldn't hold it in any longer and started laughing.

"You've got teeth, Cherié, calm down. I was proud of you too. It's so sweet of you to take this seriously. Well done."

"I don't need you to be proud of me, but thank you." Still, my cheeks were flushed, and I couldn't stop the blush no matter what. After fixing my hair and top, I called out to Charles.

"Isn't this close friend of yours coming?"

"What close friend?" Charles looked at Anna for a while and repeated in his head what she had said. Anna gave an exasperated sigh.

"That girl. Alexandra or something." Oh God, please, please tell me she's not coming.

"She's coming. "She's already here." There were some girls standing where we entered the yacht. Charles left me alone and walked over to them. Charles walked over to the blonde girl standing in the center, it had to be her.

"Welcome girls, and welcome Alexandra. You look beautiful." I'm going to be sick. I walked over to Charles and leaned into his ear, resting my elbow on his shoulder.

"You're really, really bad at flirting, you know that?" In fact, I was flirting with her now, but again she didn't understand. As always.

"I flirt just fine, it's you who can't flirt. "What was that guy's name at the restaurant we went to last time? Lucas?" Jake and I knew each other from school and we went for coffee at the weekend.

"His name is Jake, and I was flirting just fine, don't make it up." I forgot that Alexandra is still in front of us. We're here flirting with each other, hopefully with each other, and she's standing there listening to us. Alexandra took Charles's arm and walked away with him, showing who belonged to whom, and I was alone again, as always. When would he see me? I was trying to get over him, I was seeing other people, but it wasn't helping me get over him. It allowed me to find flaws in the people I met, but he didn't have any flaws. You couldn't find a flaw in him. He was... He was so wonderful that sometimes I even put him in the place of the men I was talking to and I was well aware that I shouldn't do that. I wasn't well, I wouldn't be well until he was mine...

[bellmo15-blog]

I apologize if this comes off as the most boomer shit I've ever said in my life especially if you know about my history and how I was largely a 2000's kid growing up but the more I look back on the 2010 the more I start to personally see it as the worst decade I have ever had to live though for various reasons.

This isn't me saying "Oh, there was NOTHING good about the 2010's at all" because that's not true. I mean this decade I got to go over seas three times, I got my drivers licence and graduated from high school, started making my own money, got a job I love and some of my favourite games I've ever played came out in this decade alone.

But as I look back on this era more and more I sadly tend to find more stuff I hate about it than really love. Not even just for personal or IRL reasons. Those do play a part in why I've grown to hate the 2010's looking back because my life was actual Hell at certain points (you can thank my step mother being the main cause of my depression at certain points for that) but also some of the trends and issues that popped up.

From people becoming way, WAY more toxic and entitled to the point where your opinion is instally written off if you even like anything someone doesn't (I can tell you from personal experience that being a Brony in this decade and having a pony PFP was rough,) media literacy being killed off quicker than the buffalos, everything being seen as "woke" or "SJW pandering" just for daring to star a woman or trans person or POC, shit like reaction channels on Youtube which even ignoring how they are more or less built of other people's content aren't very interesting to watch to begin with when you could just watch those original videos yourself and give them the views instead, click bait, all of the trends in gaming from this decade that have only really gotten worse as time has gone on like with Live Service, Battle Passes, Microtransactions and ports/re-releases of old games somehow being worse than there original releases as well as how all these issues have only gotten worse going into the 2020's.

And spoiler alert, I'm not having a positive opinion on this decade so far either. Look, I'm not going to pretend like the 2000's was perfect just because I have better and more found memories of it because it wasn't perfect and I usually hate when people act like one decade or the other was the best ever while also ignoring all the issues those decades did have (there's a good reason I've grown to hate the saying "It's not just nostalgia" recently) but I'd be lying if I said I sometimes didn't wish I could go back to the 2000's sometimes just because of how much happier I was then.

[shrimppee3player]

The Great and Powerful TRIXIE ‼️‼️‼️….. has totaled her caravan :l

[candicoated]

If I had a quarter for everytime a fictional character named Luna visited people in their dreams, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[antluvspath]

Some mlp fan art I drew at the lake because they’ve been on my mind lately

[opinated-user]

Based on what she did with Stockholm, Lily’s next step after deleting the Violate story is to try and gaslight her audience into believing it never happened, or that it was written by someone else.

i wonder what will be the story. did we keep hostage the family of MO to force her to draw the comic? did we brainwash her in order to do it and then used the memory erasing device from Men in Black so she doesn't remember it? are we extremely skilled artists who can mimic her style to perfection so there's no difference at all or commission someone to do it? did we used AI to make those panels? and what will be the excuse? are we still Bronies bothered about her reviews or we're just racist hating on a native trans woman? maybe just nazis who of course would make a fake pokemon fancomic just to make LO look bad... because that's a thing nazis are notorious for doing, i guess?* since we have access to time travel and advanced AI technology, the possibilities are endless!

*i mean the specifically creating fake pokemon webcomics while mimicking to perfection the original artist's style, not the harassing of POC/LGBT+ people.

[fozmeadows]

race & culture in fandom

For the past decade, English language fanwriting culture post the days of LiveJournal and Strikethrough has been hugely shaped by a handful of megafandoms that exploded across AO3 and tumblr – I’m talking Supernatural, Teen Wolf, Dr Who, the MCU, Harry Potter, Star Wars, BBC Sherlock – which have all been overwhelmingly white. I don’t mean in terms of the fans themselves, although whiteness also figures prominently in said fandoms: I mean that the source materials themselves feature very few POC, and the ones who are there tended to be done dirty by the creators.

Periodically, this has led POC in fandom to point out, extremely reasonably, that even where non-white characters do get central roles in various media properties, they’re often overlooked by fandom at large, such that the popular focus stays primarily on the white characters. Sometimes this happened (it was argued) because the POC characters were secondary to begin with and as such attracted less fan devotion (although this has never stopped fandoms from picking a random white gremlin from the background cast and elevating them to the status of Fave); at other times, however, there has been a clear trend of sidelining POC leads in favour of white alternatives (as per Finn, Poe and Rose Tico being edged out in Star Wars shipping by Hux, Kylo and Rey). I mention this, not to demonize individuals whose preferred ships happen to involve white characters, but to point out the collective impact these trends can have on POC in fandom spaces: it’s not bad to ship what you ship, but that doesn’t mean there’s no utility in analysing what’s popular and why through a racial lens.

All this being so, it feels increasingly salient that fanwriting culture as exists right now developed under the influence and in the shadow of these white-dominated fandoms – specifically, the taboo against criticizing or critiquing fics for any reason. Certainly, there’s a hell of a lot of value to Don’t Like, Don’t Read as a general policy, especially when it comes to the darker, kinkier side of ficwriting, and whether the context is professional or recreational, offering someone direct, unsolicited feedback on their writing style is a dick move. But on the flipside, the anti-criticism culture in fanwriting has consistently worked against fans of colour who speak out about racist tropes, fan ignorance and hurtful portrayals of living cultures. Voicing anything negative about works created for free is seen as violating a core rule of ficwriting culture – but as that culture has been foundationally shaped by white fandoms, white characters and, overwhelmingly, white ideas about what’s allowed and what isn’t, we ought to consider that all critical contexts are not created equal.

Right now, the rise of C-drama (and K-drama, and J-drama) fandoms is seeing a surge of white creators – myself included – writing fics for fandoms in which no white people exist, and where the cultural context which informs the canon is different to western norms. Which isn’t to say that no popular fandoms focused on POC have existed before now – K-pop RPF and anime fandoms, for example, have been big for a while. But with the success of The Untamed, more western fans are investing in stories whose plots, references, characterization and settings are so fundamentally rooted in real Chinese history and living Chinese culture that it’s not really possible to write around it. And yet, inevitably, too many in fandom are trying to do just that, treating respect for Chinese culture or an attempt to understand it as optional extras – because surely, fandom shouldn’t feel like work. If you’re writing something for free, on your own time, for your own pleasure, why should anyone else get to demand that you research the subject matter first?

Because it matters, is the short answer. Because race and culture are not made-up things like lightsabers and werewolves that you can alter, mock or misunderstand without the risk of hurting or marginalizing actual real people – and because, quite frankly, we already know that fandom is capable of drawing lines in the sand where it chooses. When Brony culture first reared its head (hah), the online fandom for My Little Pony – which, like the other fandoms we’re discussing here, is overwhelmingly female – was initially welcoming. It felt like progress, that so many straight men could identify with such a feminine show; a potential sign that maybe, we were finally leaving the era of mainstream hypermasculine fandom bullshit behind, at least in this one arena. And then, in pretty much the blink of an eye, things got overwhelmingly bad. Artists drawing hardcorn porn didn’t tag their works as adult, leading to those images flooding the public search results for a children’s show. Women were edged out of their own spaces. Bronies got aggressive, posting harsh, ugly criticism of artists whose gijinka interpretations of the Mane Six as humans were deemed insufficiently fuckable.

The resulting fandom conflict was deeply unpleasant, but in the end, the verdict was laid down loud and clear: if you cannot comport yourself like a decent fucking person – if your base mode of engagement within a fandom is to coopt it from the original audience and declare it newly cool only because you’re into it now; if you do not, at the very least, attempt to understand and respect the original context so as to engage appropriately (in this case, by acknowledging that the media you’re consuming was foundational to many women who were there before you and is still consumed by minors, and tagging your goddamn porn) – then the rest of fandom will treat you like a social biohazard, and rightly so.

Here’s the thing, fellow white people: when it comes to C-drama fandoms and other non-white, non-western properties? We are the Bronies.

Not, I hasten to add, in terms of toxic fuckery – though if we don’t get our collective shit together, I’m not taking that darkest timeline off the table. What I mean is that, by virtue of the whiteminding which, both consciously and unconsciously, has shaped current fan culture, particularly in terms of ficwriting conventions, we’re collectively acting as though we’re the primary audience for narratives that weren’t actually made with us in mind, being hostile dicks to Chinese and Chinese diaspora fans when they take the time to point out what we’re getting wrong. We’re bristling because we’ve conceived of ficwriting as a place wherein No Criticism Occurs without questioning how this culture, while valuable in some respects, also serves to uphold, excuse and perpetuate microaggresions and other forms of racism, lashing out or falling back on passive aggression when POC, quite understandably, talk about how they’re sick and tired of our bullshit.

An analogy: one of the most helpful and important tags on AO3 is the one for homophobia, not just because it allows readers to brace for or opt out of reading content they might find distressing, but because it lets the reader know that the writer knows what homophobia is, and is employing it deliberately. When this concept is tagged, I – like many others – often feel more able to read about it than I do when it crops up in untagged works of commercial fiction, film or TV, because I don’t have to worry that the author thinks what they’re depicting is okay. I can say definitively, “yes, the author knows this is messed up, but has elected to tell a messed up story, a fact that will be obvious to anyone who reads this,” instead of worrying that someone will see a fucked up story blind and think “oh, I guess that’s fine.” The contextual framing matters, is the point – which is why it’s so jarring and unpleasant on those rare occasions when I do stumble on a fic whose author has legitimately mistaken homophobic microaggressions for cute banter. This is why, in a ficwriting culture that otherwise aggressively dislikes criticism, the request to tag for a certain thing – while still sometimes fraught – is generally permitted: it helps everyone to have a good time and to curate their fan experience appropriately.

But when white and/or western fans fail to educate ourselves about race, culture and the history of other countries and proceed to deploy that ignorance in our writing, we’re not tagging for racism as a thing we’ve explored deliberately; we’re just being ignorant at best and hateful at worst, which means fans of colour don’t know to avoid or brace for the content of those works until they get hit in the face with microaggresions and/or outright racism. Instead, the burden is placed on them to navigate a minefield not of their creation: which fans can be trusted to write respectfully? Who, if they make an error, will listen and apologise if the error is explained? Who, if lived experience, personal translations or cultural insights are shared, can be counted on to acknowledge those contributions rather than taking sole credit? Too often, fans of colour are being made to feel like guests in their own house, while white fans act like a tone-policing HOA.

Point being: fandom and ficwriting cultures as they currently exist badly need to confront the implicit acceptance of racism and cultural bias that underlies a lot of community rules about engagement and criticism, and that needs to start with white and western fans. We don’t want to be the new Bronies, guys. We need to do better.  

[femailment]

Ask Lake Lady how she protects women, gays, and POC from the ex-4channer brony incel nazis who identify as trans women now.

If there were racist and antisemitic radfems then all of radical feminism is tainted but 90% of white trans women online had an alt-right phase but they are so totally sorry now, right?

[cadence-talle]

good night to people who don’t eat rocks, people who buy products from Forbidden Incorporated, Zaldo stans, melves, artists who draw POC Vackers, people who ship Brony, people who send love anons, people who think that Valin deserved better, Alden haters, mortal enemies forged through blood pacts, long-lost twins, and all the siblings who have never read KOTLC but were forced to identify the characters. good night to them and them only.  

[sirenalpha]

the thing people are not acknowledging when they try to criticize purity culture in fandom is that they’re completely ignoring the genuinely crap shit in fandom that actually is extremely unethical and does real harm

like this isn’t about wanting to get rid of cringe in fandom, this isn’t about wanting every fic to be morally black and white and flatten complexity

this is talking about fic that actually promote and legitimize or normalize bad things, I like pointing out the number of porn with no plot fics of incestuous ships because that one’s really easy to see as bad especially with actual victims of incest calling it out, this is the easiest possible version of bad or unethical fanworks for a person to spot

I genuinely think that being a good person means not participating in harmful trends and discussing them when you see them and it’s certainly not censorship or policing to do so (you need to look up what censorship and policing is if you don’t agree)

there is also an overzealous purity culture not just in fandom you see it in other online spaces spilling out into the real world (I haven’t seen it in fandom personally because I do curate who I follow but like saying people are racist and not poc based on which ships they ship is bananas) and yeah I think it can also be criticized

but that doesn’t exclude the possibility of actually bad things happening or being written about in fandom, like if you’re writing fic that can be used by a pedophile or abuser as grooming material that’s genuinely bad, like if you would criticize a brony for it you shouldn’t do it either

how do you tell what’s overzealous purity culture and what’s actually bad? you’re a person with a brain you should use it and figure it out for yourself that’s literally your job as a well behaving adult in public spaces which is what the internet is if you can’t work it out maybe don’t go on the internet or in other public spaces until you can

I don’t think saying authors should have no responsibility or accountability for what they write is a good counterargument for overzealous purity culture, all stories have themes that tell the reader a message and if authors use that ability to say something terrible like incest is ok you actually should have a problem with that work and that author

like I’m not even saying you can’t write incest which would be closer to censorship, but when someone writes incest in a way that promotes it or creates grooming material that can and should be criticized and not just be left to cause harm as dldr because who do you think likes to read that? do you want the people who like that in your fandom? I don’t