#Victor Vale

[ghoulorghost]

Something fascinating I've just found out about certain numbers in the Bible.

Eli has 32 scars on his back, and the English word "God" appears 32 times in Genesis 1, the meaning of genesis being "inception."

He's accumulated 32 scars since the beginning of his life, in the name of God, until the day he had his NDE and acquired his regenerative ability.

Victor Vale died 132 times over the course of Vengeful, and the Greek word "nekros" appears 132 times in 123 verses in the Greek New Testament.

The word was used to refer to people who were dead, either literally or figuratively, and sincerely, I feel like both meanings might fit this specific situation.

[parched-chaos]

(old art) they're reading monster y'all

[discountsoysauce]

I don't understand the idea that Victor has no backstory. Like- yeah, his backstory isn't as horrifically tragic and detailed as Eli's is, but we do know a good bit about him from what he's said so far.

His parents are pretty successful, so we can assume he grew up rich. Victor states that they write all of these books about family but have never taken time out of their day for him, even saying something along the lines of the last time they put aside time for him was his birth (not exact quotes, I don't have the energy to look back through the books rn), so we can assume that they were incredibly neglectful, most likely leaving him at home for days, weeks, maybe months at a time and probably not paying much attention to him even in times when they were home. Whether they paid someone to take care of him in that time or he had to learn to be self-sufficient is debatable.

I personally don't think they were physically abusive, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence at present that supports that idea. Verbal abuse is more likely, but I still don't think it was the case. It doesn't seem like they were around him long enough to do either. I don't think those things really need to be a part of his backstory to make it interesting or compelling. His parents were neglectful, and it shaped pretty much everything about who he is.

The biggest and most obvious one is Victor's obsession with attention. There are multiple references throughout the books of Victor craving attention from those around him, namely Angie and Eli. More than anything, Victor wants to be seen. He wants to be a part of something. He wants to be remembered and acknowledged and thought about. He craves the attention his parents never gave him. He doesn't want to be left behind or forgotten.

Being left behind is another big fear for him (I'm mostly speaking about Lockland here, as he becomes a bit less dependent after he becomes an EO, though there can still be an argument made about him latching onto Mitch and Sydney and Dol and Dominic in a kind of makeshift family he never had). He hates seeing Eli succeed because it feels like he's being left behind. He wants to be so intertwined with another person that they can't possibly forget him. He wants to form a connection so deep that it's impossible to sever. To Victor, there's a connection between 'success' and being left behind. He doesn't want to just be an expendable sidekick or an accessory. He wants to be an integral part of someone. Victor's life revolving around Eli is a symptom of his upbringing.

His social skills and general demeanor are also something that can be analyzed. From the beginning, he's set up as the antithesis to Eli, from social class to backstory to appearance to demeanor. They're the same at their core, but opposites in nearly everything else. Compared to Eli, Victor is a total recluse. He hates being around people, he avoids parties, and we barely see him interact with or pay attention to anyone except the people he genuinely cares about unless he absolutely needs to. His demeanor is off-putting, and he doesn't really make an effort to hide that, although he does just enough to make sure he isn't a complete social outcast. Victor grew up in one home with no siblings and parents who were hardly around. Compared to Eli, who was carted from home to home, meeting new people and learning how to blend in all the time, Victor likely doesn't have much in the way of social experience. He didn't have to hide who he was nearly as much as Eli did because there was no one there to see it anyway.

This being said, he is described as being a good liar and able to fool those around him, although notably worse at it than Eli. This one is more of a longshot, but I don't think it's improbable. Victor's parents were successful published authors who garnered their success based on the books they wrote about family. It's possible that Victor had to make press appearances at some point when he was younger, and learned how to lie for the cameras, or he just spent so long out of the company of others that he started seeing other people as more objects to use and less real living people, making it easier to learn the motions of manipulating them. Either way, Victor learns how to do or say the right thing to get someone to believe him, but he states that Eli is much better at actually faking emotions than he is. This is because while Eli spent his life following his father's death surrounded by people and thus learned how to change his entire self to appear more presentable to the general public, Victor only learned how to manipulate people through speech or actions. He can tell you exactly what you want to hear, but he can't put on a fake persona the way Eli can because he never needed to.

In conclusion, Victor does have a backstory, and it informs every aspect of his character, including his relationship to Eli.

[glendover]

“your babygirl just killed people” yes but my babygirl is also a man who has given everything to protect the ones he loves. so I think he’s allowed to go a bit insane, as a treat you know.

[shoukohime]

dads in fiction <<< guys in fiction who see a kid in a fucked up situation without a guardian to take care of them and asks is anyone gonna look after this kid? and don't wait for an answer

[bvrtysbvtches]

the “best friends who had plans of changing the world together but then one of them betrayed the other and now they’re on opposite sides and the one who betrayed the other is now morally grey and kills people but they still can’t bring themselves to kill the other because deep down they’re still in love with them” trope>>>>

[chaoticmiserablelover]

Two people who understand each other deeply. The power they hold over each other's hearts. the trust between them. That's why I keep reading books. It fascinates me.

[i-needserotonin]

The problem with Eli and Victor's relationship is that they are best friends, ex-best friends, rivals, nemesis , mirrors, narrarive foils, a weird college situationship that neither of them can get over. They haven't seen each other for years and they still think about each other's minds. They can't live with it. They fall into madness when the other is dead. They can't live with the thought of the other being dead as if a part of them was ripped away and burned alive. They are obsessed with the idea they have of the other. They were the only people who completely understood each other in this world and it scared them. They haunt each other even though they are alive in the same room. They could never separate themselves from the idea of ​​what could have been. They are already dead in the same fucking grave.

[magnoliaribs]

the funniest part of Vicious is when Eli isn’t giving Victor enough attention so he decides to electrocute himself

[cupofearlgreytea]

nothing can come in between a girl and her obsession for complex complicated fucked up toxic deliriously in love relationships

[sillysynopses]

The phrase ‘and they were roommates’ finally finds its origin as two men enacting scientific war crimes rather than fuck one another, encounter a pair of sisters who need therapy, a dog that really just needs to go to a better home, and the most innocent cyber criminal slash hired muscle you’ll ever encounter. Watch as this group of people burn through a city that might as well be New York but possibly isn’t for legal reasons, and murder a bunch of innocent people who probably had it coming anyway because they were possessed by the devil- or at least that’s what the traumatised religious man keeps telling himself- anyway, join in on the rom com of the century as these two crazy kids prove you need a lot more than good chemistry to make a relationship work- you also need a defibrillator!

[parched-chaos]

I still find it funny that victor killed two of out of three of Eli's gfs kjj

[queer-book-character-tournament]

Character, book, and author names under the cut

Victor Vale- Vicious by VE Schwab

August Landry- One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston

Daja Kisubo- The Circle of Magic series by Tamora Pierce

Neil Josten- All for the Game by Nora Sakavic

[romancefairy]

girls be like "this is my comfort character" and then they're either dead or a murderer

[clarkesyd]

“sydney, look at me.” he rested his hands on the car roof and leaned in. “no one is going to hurt you. do you know why?” she shook her head, and victor smiled. “because i’ll hurt them first.”

[fuckvictorvale]

🚨 SHE’S WORKING ON VICTORIOUS. THIS IS NOT A DRILL 🚨