#and how he got killed/gregory got freed

[puhpandas]

what are u guys' dream game after sotm? since itll be the last game centered around the mimics backstory and integration and stuff (hopefully) theres basically a whole world of possibilities for currently neglected storylines lol

[tapenessa]

on my knees very sweetly. vanessa fnaf hcs? perhaps? either ness is fine

I LOCKED IN HERE THEY ARE

VANESSA HCS

GAME VANESSA!!

—she’s tall! about six feet

—she first put rainbow highlights in her hair as a dare, but grew to love them

—she says she loves sweets but will eat one cookie and will spend an hour laying on her side willing the stomach pain to go away

—pre-Glitchtrap she had a decent sense of self-esteem. Afterwards she doubted everything about herself

—even before being glitchtrapped she sometimes doubted what things were real and what wasn’t

—her relationship with her dad wasn’t great but he never abused her. When glitch got into her head however he warped her perception of her father

—she does love kids but she doesn’t know how to interact with them. she gets more socially anxious around them then she gets around people her age

—she’s a lesbian butch TO ME (tapenessa butch x femme mayhaps)

—she was a decent student in school. she attended all her classes because she didn’t have the guts to skip but thought all her teachers hated her. they actually liked her a lot.

—after being freed, she became an extremely anxious and self-conscious person

—she takes care of gregory out of obligation in the beginning. she has no clue how to interact with him. at first she’s very short-tempered with him because of all her stress. she snaps at him a lot and then locks herself away in her room feeling like the worst person in the world. she sometimes feels like he’s the more mature one, because while she’s breaking down all the time, gregory is just… fine. what is actually happening is that greg is just better at keeping his horror over everything that has happened to himself. they gradually learn to open up to each other.

—she never gets back in contact with her dad. she lets him know she’s okay, and that she loves him, but she doesn’t think she can ever be around him again.

MOVIE VANESSA

—lesbian ofc but she’s the embodiment of “im probably into girls but i can’t really think about that rn” or whatever that post is

—actually thinks mike is a huge fucking weirdo. and then she looks at herself and goes ‘okay maybe that’s a bit hypocritical’

—her favorite season is summer because of the longer days

—hates HATES dark and cramped spaces. pretty sure this is canon for game vanessa?? idk i haven’t listened to the therapist tapes in a while BUT she doesn’t like them either

—this is pretty much canon, but she’s a bit morally grey (was ok with the robber guys who broke into freddy’s dying when they didn’t really deserve it)

—is very good with kids but being near them makes her feel sick because they often trust her so much, and she’s taken advantage of kids’ trust before

—MORE ON THAT very very common headcanon that she was the one who led the MCI to william. she was very young and didn’t know that they were going to die, but when they were killed she froze up and didn’t know what to do.

—HATES being a cop. she hates all of her coworkers and everything the badge stands for. is only a cop because william needs a buddy to help him cover up his crimes.

—also a very common headcanon, pretty sure it’s canon?? but william made her kill some of the guards who “got too close” she convinces herself they deserved it so she doesn’t go crazy

—hallucinates the dead kids all the time. kinda like how mike dreams of them, but she sees them all the time, and they’re usually like walking corpses, bleeding and still inflicted with the wounds william gave them

—cleans down the animatronics all the time. she can’t take the bodies out, but she keeps them clean. it makes the kids happy.

—she doesn’t talk to the kids, but they like her. she’s the only adult they trust and won’t attack

[quillsinkwell]

FNAF SECURITY BREACH RUIN SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT

1: I really like Cassie, more than I expected to. One of my issues with FNAF was that the human characters don't really feel like characters in the games, more like prop pieces. But Cassie genuinely feels like a character that I want to see get a happy ending.

2: I went in expecting that if I saw Eclipse, he'd be a bastard, and instead was pleasantly surprised. He's my scrunkly :].

3: I really love the Roxy redemption we got!! She was genuinely kind and gentle with Cassie and I loved it.

4: I kept expecting the V.A.N.N.I mask to turn Cassie evil at some point, tho I did enjoy the return of Helpy.

5: At first I was soul crushed when I saw what had become of Freddy, but I saw online that he was a prototype and not good ol' Freddy, so :]

6: Pour one out for Monty I guess. Dude forgot he wasn't a real alligator.

7: Bonnie enjoyers got fed at what cost

8: Yeah no, I refuse to believe Gregory left Cassie to die.

Why would he guide her to the elevator in the first place if he was just gonna kill her off? He went through hell to make sure Freddy was ok, and he knew that guy for less than a day, he wouldn't leave his best friend to rot.

(maybe this is the inner Gregory fan talking, SO WHAT)

The Mimic wasn't shown to be destroyed, just escaped from, and we don't know how much control it had over the Pizzaplex, especially after Cassie freed it. Maybe it was what sent her crashing down.

Or that freaky rabbit (which I'm pretty sure is Afton) hacked the elevator to keep her down below (will elaborate on)

9: I believe the shot in game featuring Vanessa and Gregory confirms that the Princess Quest ending is the canon ending, and y'know what? I'm ok with that, I like the ending, it's got three stars, and the Encyclopedia said that was Gregory's good ending, so I had a feeling it was gonna go that way.

BUT! In that ending, it isn't made clear if by playing the game we killed Afton, or we simply freed Vanessa.

So, what if that glitchy rabbit is Afton, but his vessel wasn't complete, so he got stuck in the system, and the whole 'Vanny Network' thing he set up to try to replace her.

(we don't know how long it's been since the events of SB, and if the three stars ending is the canon ending, then we also don't know what destroyed the Pizzaplex)

Maybe Afton was in control of the elevator, and used Gregory's voice to trick Cassie (like some people were theorizing before the dlc came out) into believing Gregory betrayed her so he could turn her into his replacement Vanny and get her to make him real again.

Are points 8 & 9 a desperate ploy to not have Gregory be an asshole? Probably

Will that deter me? Absolutely not

Also if there is an answer as to how the Pizzaplex got destroyed in the TFTP books, don't spoil please, I've only read Lally's Game, the main reason I know what the Mimic is that SuperHorrorBro kept mentioning it during his playthrough so I checked the wiki.

Also if there are more endings to the DLC, please be cool about spoilers! I've only seen what SHB posted.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on Ruin.

[osatokun]

Tell us more about Glinda!

the original one, not the tiefling one?

She is an npc in the vampire the masquerade ttrpg chronicle I'm playing with my friends. I play that chubby sweet vampire man.

I put the story under the cut, as it's pretty dark

She is a changeling form the House Balor. Once she was a queen of the changelings of the New Orleans, back in 90s. She was so strong that she even created a wildly strong chimerical creature, a Dragon, who, ofcourse, could take a human form. Glinda always had prophetic dreams and she knew that soon her changeling people will extinct, the era of wonder will be over. Should I mention, that changeling soul wakes up early in kids, and closer to 20-25 years it usually goes back to sleep, resting inside human body unless that human dies. The human doesn't remember they were a fae creature once.

So, the young teen Glinda was talked into the apocalypse. Pentex or nephandi (both?) talked her into giving birth to a changeling-spirit creature, that will destroy big part of the world, but the other half survives and start believing in wonders again, giving strenght to changelings. This way changelings could survive.

Could they make it differently? Ofcourse they could. But they didn't miss on a chance to rape a teen and destroy her child's soul. Plus, the time was right, the Eye of Balor appeared in the sky (or the Red Star, as vampires named it). But the other changeling House, house Beaumayn, who also known to be seers, riot and freed her chimera. The Dragon burned (by that time pregnant) Glinda in chimerical flame, which had to kill her changeling soul and her spirit-child. But the spirit survived and ran away into the depths of the Umbra, and Glinda's changeling soul fell asleep. The connection with this spirit creature helped her changeling part to survive.

Beaumayns took the lead of the changelings of the city, "imprisoned" Glinda and made the Dragon her jailer. For regular people it looked like a marriage(it sounds funny when I word it this way) .The Dragon, Gregory Dequir in human form, did his best to make Glinda feel like she is nothing, a zero, not even a person and tried to control her every step. Time passed, changelings woke up and fell back asleep, and pretty soon Dragon was the only one who remembered this story and had a good chance to shape it however he wanted. Everyone hated her, a lot respected him, but no one knew the reason she made this choice, no one even knew what exactly she made. (Gregory, also known as Dragon)

But despite everything she grew up into a very kind loving person. 20 years passed. She became an art teacher, always caring about her students and protecting them, just as she did when she was a queen. She kept her courage too, and now and then tried to sneak from the Dragon. Even tho she had no personal budget, even tho he tried to control all her contacts, she found ways for sneaking from time to time. Should I say, that's how she met Charlie, who was looking for changelings at this point and..at the same time was hungry and horny ?

They met in the art gallery. Quickly she lured him in a more private place ( don't laugh, it was the rest room).She needed to be quick while Dragon wasn't around. Charlie never bit her, no. He ended up fighting frenzy and crying, trying to ignore his visions. He got scared by the big, never healing scar on her chest. There is nothing he can do about it, he just can't feed on people who has skin problems, its one of his core mental issues that can't be healed. But still he didn't want to upset her too much so he didn't ran away screaming, he put all his fading strength just to cry like a little child. She tried to calm him, but when he started to say that he feels sorry for her, the wound looks so bad it must be really painful (etc etc) it hit her pride and she walked away.

Charlie however tried to figure who she is, what she is. He tried to find a changeling who asked him for help, but poor vampire didn't know how exactly this changeling looks like. So he made a thing that he makes very rare - he looked into her soul to learn her true self. And he fell in love, insanely, in that very moment, as he never seen anyone more brave, more beautiful , just like a little brave robin with her burnt mark over her heart, she fought the horrific Dragon.

I won't bore you with the year long story of the gaming sessions. In short, he found the way to return memory to Glinda and the younger changeling (the one who asked for help, Monica). It requires to go to the umbra and survive in Arcadia's wood, but no matter, he did it.

Other noble changelings seemed to look for the way to get rid of the Dragon without doing it themselves. Dragon had too much power, both physical and social, and he became (or always were) the banal chimera so he hurt changelings just by existing near them. So the conflict of the chimera and the vampire, who seemed to be too stupid to retreat, attracted their attention. Charlie ended up fighting the Dragon on the changeling court, and the king of the house forces another very old vampire to give my dude a sword. That sword contained a demon(which ofcourse Charlie didn't know) and, when Charlie was one hit from gis final death, he made a contract with the creature from the sword. One hour and ten minutes inside his body, for the feath of the Dragon and Dragon only. Charlie knew it was a horrible idea, but couldn't stand the idea of Glinda's death, Monica's death and his firend's, Veronica's death. So the demon turned dragon into a regular human being, this way killing the Dragon and making him a regular mortal, and used vampire's body to run away. Oh, the swords keeper aka demons jailer wasn't happy at all..but Charlie deserved all what he got.

Anyway, lets get back to Glinda. After the death of the Dragon, the jailer, Glinda was free ( so do Gregory). He divorced her and she could start her new life. Charlie gave her the healing that restored broken connections of her changeling soul and ran straight into the Umbra, to restore her memory. Monica and her friends (a werewolf, a ghost, a changeling-satyr and chimera) followed her a day after. Time works differently in Umbra, so Glinda spent a whole month here, the kids spent a week or so. They met to that spirit face to face, they fought, and they escaped. Glinda even managed to steal the symbol of her connection to the spirit, a Golden Chalice. All that time Charlie waited near the portal-painting for their return.

A couple days after Charlie and Glinda stared to date. She told him her story, he told her his, and also shared his true name to show his feelings for her. They quickly moved together and shared bits of their curses: Charlie took a bit if the spirit curse, she took a little bit of his demonic one. And finally, they got married. There are still incredible amount of dangers, the mummy is trying to get their (kinda now adopted) daughter Monica, the spirit getting closer and closer to the surface, Charlie's demon is still walking the earth and, ofcourse, vampiric community isn't happy with changelings at all ( I don't think changelings thinks positively about Charlie too).But they have their little family, their smol house, they even managed to create a new chimerical cat together, they are determined to survive and win. (curse sharing was a pretty sweet scene they both sung a song and put bits of their powers into small bat pins)

They even got the True Love merit!

Edit:

In the end, they worked with the occult council of the city ( vampires, werewolves and mages were there) to slay Glinda's spir. Charlie made a deal with a local settite leader Manon asking to help out with Glinda's ritual in return. Council succeed but flooded the city (not too badly, but still 😔). And Charlie's demon was trapped by other much more powerful vampires and he did his best to resist demon till the end.

Now happily married couple is traveling together, looking for the new deadly adventures x)

[star-going-supernova]

Prompt: After vanessa is freed from ol' peepaw willy's control. One day, Gregory just sorta offhandedly comments "by the way, you had a real crappy knife as Vanny". Vanessa, understandably, questions how he knows this. Gregory proceeds to drag her to the store to buy a 4 buck knife, victoria brand (because i recently got one and omg that's sharp). Vanessa is now glad that Vanny was kind of a dummy. (I thought this could be funny!)

Basic implant background for Vanessa here! This is silly, lol.

Critique

It started with a movie trailer in which a character was shown attacking a friend because of mind control. It was all rising drama as the second character desperately tried to break their friend free without hurting them while still trying to defend themself. It struck a sour note in Vanessa. 

Had any of her victims, Gregory or otherwise, tried to snap her out of it? Begged for her to wake up, for her not to hurt them? Would they have known to? She didn’t remember enough from those months, her memory scattered and patchy. 

“You must have been so scared,” she murmured, almost without noticing. She immediately tensed when Gregory turned to look at her; That Night had been one of the Things We Don’t Talk About since it happened, and the last thing she’d meant to do was break that unspoken agreement.

But Gregory just made a dismissive noise. “Not really.” 

“Not—not really?” 

He sent her a half pitying, half apologetic look. “You were a really incompetent murderer, is all.” 

And despite how unbelievably stupid it was, Vanessa found herself mildly offended. “Excuse me?” 

Gregory sighed, put-upon. “Forget I said anything.” 

Vanessa did not, instead leaning forward to mute the TV. “No, no, we’re having this conversation. And I’m sorry for bringing it up—for making you uncomfortable, but—”

“Uncomfortable? What are you talking about?”

She gestured at him. “I don’t exactly want to make you relive a traumatic experience.” 

He stared at her blankly for a second, but before she could start to worry that he was having a flashback or something, he snorted, amused. “Ness, I hate to break it to you, but I didn’t find that night in the pizzaplex particularly traumatizing.” 

“You—what? But we, we have that silent agreement not to talk about it!” 

“Yeah. Because you get all self-loathing and thousand-yard-stare-y when you’re reminded of it.” 

“I—” Vanessa cut herself off, narrowing her eyes. Did she get like that? “But—your nightmares?”

He bit his lip, and she got the impression he was trying not to laugh at her. “I’ve never had a nightmare about you or the pizzaplex, actually.” 

“But I—your insomnia, the way you’re so tired in the morning sometimes, and sometimes you fall asleep with the light on!” 

“I have friends in other time zones,” he explained. “And what kid doesn’t stay up to all hours on YouTube? You wouldn’t believe how many theory videos are out there about Fazbear Entertainment and all the murders and stuff.” 

The murders. Her murders? Were there more murders committed by other murderers? 

They stared at each other for a long minute, Vanessa’s worldview shifting in multiple different directions and Gregory placidly watching it happen. 

“Okay, we’ll—come back to that, maybe, but—sorry, just. Let’s circle back to incompetent murderer. The hell does that mean?” 

“Let me put it simply: you dedicated six-plus hours to trying to kill me… and now I live in your house.” 

Vanessa slumped into the couch cushions, unable to argue. 

To add insult to injury, Gregory started counting off a list of incompetencies on his fingers. “Your costume was frankly comical with its bug-eyes and buckteeth and weird smile. I have to assume the mask severely limited your vision with the amount of times you just completely missed me despite me being right in front of you. You had no sense of urgency with the way you were skipping around, and you made it extremely easy to avoid you because you had no concept of stealth or subtlety. Using the animatronics to help you might have been a half decent idea if doing so hadn’t dumbed them down so much. An actual dog would’ve been better at tracking me.” 

She opened her mouth to interject, but he kept going. 

“The one time you did get close to me, you were so dead-set on maintaining the stupidest cover ever that you practically let me get away. I mean, seriously, who were you trying to fool? So what if I, the kid you were going to kill, knew Vanessa and Vanny were one and the same? And despite having an entire building’s worth of security cameras at your fingertips, you never used them to find me, and the door locks were useless with all the keycards laying around. Admittedly, that’s not entirely your fault, but as a murderer, I think you should’ve been more meticulous about that. And the worst part—”

This roast against her mind-controlled self got worse? 

“—your knife was a piece of crap.” 

A few seconds ticked by as Vanessa’s brain tried to take in his criticisms without thinking of them as points that she needed to improve upon. “What was so bad about my knife?” she asked, perhaps a bit too petulant.

Gregory shrugged. “It was a standard kitchen knife, which wasn’t the worst thing you could’ve chosen. But it clearly hadn’t seen a sharpener in way too long.” 

“How would you know?” Because, admittedly, it wasn’t like she’d ever gotten close enough for him to learn firsthand anything about her knife. 

He sucked in through his teeth, faux apologetic. “Another point against you,” he teased. “I stole your knife around 4:30 and you apparently didn’t even notice.” 

“You didn’t. You didn’t!” 

“I did!” His smile turned smug. “And I never gave it back.” 

“You still have it?” Vanessa asked. Was that something to be concerned about? Especially since he had such a clear idea of what made a person a good or bad murderer. 

“Duh. And you’re not getting it back now. It’s part of my collection.” 

Terrifying little menace. Vanessa looked back at the TV and unmuted it. Her thoughts swirled. 

A few minutes later, she huffily turned to Gregory again, smacking the couch cushion as she did, and loudly said, affronted, “Incompetent. Incompetent? Me? Really?” 

Gregory immediately bursting into laughter didn’t help her outrage. 

[queenofthursday6599-blog]

I am a “Gregory was never involved with Ruin” truther to be completely honest.

He wasn’t the one who sent Cassie the distress call message in the first place. He’s been missing for a while from what the missing posters of him imply and just how destroyed the Pizzaplex is. Considering he almost certainly went missing in whatever shut down the Pizzaplex, and just how thoroughly destroyed and graffitied the building is and how much worse the animatronics have gotten in condition.

And to be perfectly blunt I don’t think it’d be possible for him to be the one contacting Cassie in any of the endings, on the radio or in the elevator.

Radios don’t work underground unless it’s from very short range because rock blocks radio waves. So who ever was talking to her over the radio always had to be pretty close by in order for her walky-talky to be able to receive the signal.

And when “the real Gregory” starts talking the first thing he says is that he’s not in the building, but that message itself is coming from the walky-talky. Basically contradicting itself. That can’t be the real Gregory on the radio if he isn’t close by, because radios have basically no range while underground. Because it also insists that “Gregory” isn’t in the building, and hasn’t been there all night.

Not to mention "Gregory” somehow being able to track where Cassie is and direct her when he’s not in the building. Implying he somehow managed to remotely hack into the Pizzaplex’s systems, in order to get access to the cameras to see where Cassie is.

I 100% think someone other than Gregory dropped the elevator, because it just flat out doesn’t make sense for Gregory to have done it. Or have the ability to do it from outside the Pizzaplex

My current running theory is that this was all planned out by either the Mimic, GlitchTrap, and/or BurnTrap, depending on if they’re connected or flat out the same entity. In order to try and turn Cassie into the new Vanny.

I am just going to treat them all like the same thing, and call them MimicTrap, because even if they aren’t the exact same thing, I still think they’re all rooted in the same goal of being the new William Afton.

You see MimicTrap’s last successful minion, Vanessa, got deprogrammed and freed by Gregory, meaning the eternal work of Afton killing children in Pizza restaurants could no longer continue.

And that’s not something MimicTrap is alright with no matter what exactly the basis and context of his existence is. Afton’s digitized ghost returned from hell by way of Fazbear Ent’s penny pinching, a Mimic program that inadvertently got trained up on Afton’s serial killing ways either by observing Afton directly, or the Mimic getting fed information about Afton’s crimes by Fazbear Ent in order to create Help Wanted.

All of that is irrelevant to what the thing’s goal is: Continue William Afton’s serial killing legacy, which is easiest to do with a human puppet to do so.

Animatronics are big, clunky, obvious, and only permitted to be in specific locations, humans don’t have those kinds of draw backs. Humans blend in with the populous, and roam free without restrictions be they mechanical or by human expectation.

[Animatronics can’t leave their designated pizzerias, that would weird out and alert everyone that something weird was going on.]

Now why would MimicTrap choose Cassie as his new minion/victim? Because she’s the ideal new Vanny.

She’s familiar with FazTech and the Pizzaplex due to her dad working as a technician there, and Cassie herself spending a lot of time there. Cassie was a daycare kid, and had her previous birthday party there.

Cassie is a lonely but loyal child who’s only [human] friend, who MimicTrap has accumulated enough data to convincingly replicate, has gone missing. So MimicTrap has something to lure Cassie deep into the Pizzaplex with, it has leverage.

[Just like the Fruity Maze girl and her dog, he’s using a child’s close attachment to something to lure them away to a secluded location, by pretending to be the child’s friend.]

So she has skills/knowledge that would be useful for MimicTrap’s minion/puppet to have (being able to mess with/manipulate the Animations just like how Vanessa herself could).

MimicTrap also has something that he can use to lure her into position, and leverage against her in order to get himself free. Along with trick her into interfacing with the V.A.N.N.I. mask and get her the ocular implant that ties her directly into the network.

Gregory, or at least the promise of rescuing Gregory. Cassie’s only human friend, who is, as far as she knows, missing.

All that to say, I think MimicTrap faked “the Real Gregory” betraying Cassie at the end of the game, in order to get Cassie to hate Gregory or at least not trust him any more. Meaning that if Cassie ever encountered Gregory again after this, which is pretty likely if he’s still running around with Freddy’s head, Vanessa, and looking into Fazbear stuff, she wouldn’t trust him.

She wouldn’t trust the only person, to have ever gotten one over, on any form of William Afton, and Survived. The one who escaped, the one who took out the corrupted animatronics, the one who freed MimicTrap’s previous minion and shut down it’s hunting grounds for who knows how long.

This combined with Cassie’s attachment to Roxy, who already hates Gregory for taking her eyes and wrecking the Pizzaplex, means she almost certainly wouldn’t believe anything Gregory said or tried to do to help free her in the event of them meeting again.

Which also plays into MimicTrap’s plans, which I think changed when Roxy intervened. Originally I think MimicTrap was just going to go fully Vanny on Cassie and just take over her brain/body the way he did Vanessa by using the V.A.N.N.I. mask. This changed when Roxy tried to fight the endo MimicTrap was inhabiting.

This girl had Roxy’s loyalty, even after she’d shut the animatronic down. And MimicTrap had already altered Roxy (and the other animatronics) programming once, back when he had Vanny under his thrall. Now that he was free and had access to the network once more, and was no longer being stone walled by M.X.E.S. he could do so again.

So what does he do? He ensures she’s trapped in the Pizzaplex with him and Roxy, while also ensuring to poison Cassie’s friendship and bond with Gregory.

Roxy becomes the good guy by being her only remaining friend and “protecting her” from MimicTrap (who’s not trying to attack her anymore), along with affirming her new hatred/dislike of Gregory. MimicTrap starts slyly altering Roxy’s code and Cassie’s perception of reality via the V.A.N.N.I. mask to mold her into his new minion, and Cassie falls even deeper down the rabbit hole.

So yeah those are my thoughts.

[chipistrate]

I have a debt that won't leave my head : why didn't freddy ask Gregory or Vanessa to come back and rescue the other glamrock animatronics

Well we don't know he didn't for a fact- there's no real evidence one way or the other

The three came back to the Pizzaplex to set up MXES, and maybe they were planning on attempting to save the others while setting up the MXES system, but quickly realized they were beyond saving- or at least they they wouldn't be the ones to save them.

Maybe before that, they did try and simply failed- just because they try doesn't mean they'll succeed and we'll see the results of the rescue attempt.

The problem with saving them now is that they aren't like Freddy, who was infected and freed before it was too late- they're not infected anymore, they're just angry and not themselves. The issue isn't a virus anymore as that virus was already defeated, fixing them isn't as simple as playing a few arcade games, their code- their minds- they've been damaged and changed, and reversing it isn't easy, especially not in the states they're in right now. And my point with this is; maybe Freddy and the others knew this, knew that they were just damaged, and thought that saving them was impossible. Plus, none of this is to mention just how dangerous a rescue attempt would be- we saw how they acted around Cassie, and we saw how especially Roxy was still angry and looking for Gregory- a rescue attempt would be life threatening, and with everything on their plate already, a mission that they knew would most likely fail and could easily get one of them killed might not be worth it.

Though to be honest, it sounds unlikely when thinking of Freddy specifically- maybe Gregory and Vanessa, but those are Freddy's friends, he's described them as such, and I think he'd be able to convince the two to at least try. But I don't think it worked.

TLDR; looking at his character he most likely did, but the attempt failed. Either that or he had to give up the attempt before it started, knowing that his friends just weren't themselves anymore and wanting to protect his family from them.

Not sure if this made sense- but I hope I got my point across uierjgherfl

[alinalioness]

Security Breach Chapter 15: The first one is saved.

In the Roxy Racing.

Oggy put the alpha bot's head on his body and he and Tom, Jerry and Jack go to the track. While they were driving to lure someone, a light-skinned girl with brown hair with a single pink stripe was walking in the distance. She wore Roxy makeup, a red jacket, a purple skirt and sneakers. She noticed that Roxy was standing on the track and jumped on the road where the heroes would pass.

Girl: Caution!

The four silent ones looked at her, and then were scared when they saw Roxy in front of them. They immediately jumped out of the car and the car hit Roxy smashing. The girl approached them anxiously.

Girl: How are you? (The characters gesture to say everything is fine and thank you for the prejudice) You are welcome. But Roxy is damaged and needs to be checked. My name is Cassie. (The characters say their names with a gesture) Nice to meet you.

They came to the place where the wall was destroyed and saw a broken Roxy with no eyes lying on the floor. They approached quietly so that she wouldn't attack while Tom took the eyes.

Cassi: Together with Gregory, I have heard About you and your friends who saved the world from the armies of beasts. Gregory is my friend and we go to the pizzeria every night because we are orphans.

As soon as they got to the door, Roxy attacked them. Fortunately, the heroes returned before she broke down the door and they went in.

Cassi: Roxy, what's the matter with you?

Roxy:(Worried) Cassie? Guys? I didn't- (Switched to anger) You're nothing!

They start running away from her even though she can't see anything. Passing through different rooms, they got into a room where there were fires. Suddenly Jerry noticed on Tom that Roxy had a purple lamp on her head. Which he immediately informed the others.

Cassi: Roxy has a purple lamp. We need to help her.

Oggy sees the crowbar and gestures for them to distract Roxy while he breaks the lamp with a crowbar. They agreed and the four of them headed for the exit without hurting.

Cassi: Roxy, we're here!

Roxy, hearing their voices, attacked and Oggy attacked her with a crowbar. Once at the exit, Oggy immediately smashed the lamp and Roxy freed herself from William's control. While he was getting down, Tom put his eyes in Roxy's face and now she sees everything. She notices that she is broken and her friends.

Cassi: Roxy, I'm sorry, but- (Roxy hugged her and the others)

Roxy: I'm sorry! But it's not my fault and it's not the others' fault. (Stops hugging) We lied to all of you because we used to be human and William killed us. And now he's controlling us to take revenge and kill you.

Cassi: Oh my God, this is terrible.

The silent heroes ask how they met.

Roxy: We met during a birthday party. When she came in, I noticed and realized that she was an orphan. But the rules don't allow us to hide them. About how we started living in Highland Isle, I remembered and missed when we were having fun.

Cassi: Poor Roxy and the others, we need to help the others from the influence.

Roxy: So, I see that the rest of someone is going to the others. We must go to them immediately. Let's go.

They immediately run to the others, hoping that nothing will happen to them. If not...

*The screen turned black with the sound of the lights turning off*

To be continued...

[gregorygerwitz]

Once upon a time...

in a far away forest, bordered by an icy lake, there lived a warlock who hated all of mankind... but he had not always been this cursed, having ventured long ago into these same woods with the purest of hearts, only to have it hardened and die from the betrayal of his one true love. Having no more heart of his own, he became immortal, and would kill all those who dared set foot in his forest. Only if he ever met a man pure of heart, could he be freed from his curse, and become mortal once more...

His name had been John, centuries ago. He was John of Stonesfall, a soldier in a war that was over only shortly before his life was. His life, on the other hand, was cursed to never end, even if it felt like it had when the curse was passed onto him. For years, he was bound to that forest, to the shore of the lake that it surrounded, determined to wait as patiently as he could for someone who was as pure of heart as he had been when he entered it. Only then would he be able to leave and finally live out the end of his life - free of the power that he didn’t understand that trapped him there.

Except years turned into decades, and decades turned into centuries, and the forest was destroyed so that mankind could expand - it became a city, in enough time, Chicago. There were too many people to kill for trespassing onto land that should have been his, so he settled on an alternative and blended in, instead. But people looked at him a little too long if he introduced himself as John of Stonesfall, and he needed a name that didn’t make people think he needed to be committed to some mental institution somewhere, especially when it might be too far from the lake for the curse to be appeased. So, he chose different names for different identities as time went on - John, Samuel, Caleb, Adam, Daniel, Brandon, Gregory... the latest was Mouse. It was something that no one blinked at as long as he stayed in alleyways, didn’t talk to people besides his dealers, didn’t draw any attention to himself that would leave a paper trail. Then, he would have to change his identity again, and it was harder to do each time he had to do it, when more and more people would recognize his face and potentially expose him.

It had been going fine. He’d lived almost five years as Mouse, and almost no one questioned why his appearance never changed. No one questioned where he came from or where he was going next. It was perfect, until the police showed up when he needed to be anonymous the most.

He’d almost given up on finding another pure heart. The world had changed too much, and those people simply didn’t exist anymore. The centuries he’d spent alone were all for nothing, and he had resigned himself to the rest of them alone. So, he gave the name Mouse to the patrol officer who asked for his statement, any information he could give about the crime that had been committed right in front of him. And the officer - J Halstead was what the badge on his chest said - seemed... nice. But people were only nice when they wanted something, like information to solve a crime, or the body he was cursed to keep living in, or a favor that only he could accomplish because he couldn’t be killed in the middle of it.

Things from there happened without his permission, and he didn’t even know how. Months after their chance meeting in the middle of a police investigation, he was sitting across the table from Officer Halstead at dinner. Three years after that, things were still good. He rarely spent time in those alleys anymore, choosing instead to spend nights in Jay’s apartment, listening to pillow talk that involved discussion about cases he’d closed and ones he still hadn’t solved. When his unit had an open position, using devices that Mouse was an expert in after teaching himself skills as society developed around him, he made sure it got offered.

And that was when John knew he couldn’t keep living that way.

He couldn’t spend every single day in the same building as someone he loved, someone who loved him return, someone who trusted and believed him at every turn. Because Jay’s heart was pure, and that was what he was most afraid of. Maybe he could break his own curse, finally be given the freedom to age and die after spending so long in a kind of stasis, but that would come with a price. A broken curse didn’t go away, it just jumped to the next person, clung to the next pure heart until it was worn down and hardened into one of stone. The cycle had to end, and it would end with him, not someone like Jay Halstead who deserved a real life, the shorter, mortal kind that actually meant something.

After packing a bag and getting ready to leave their home, the one he found himself wanting to cling to instead of just remember, there was only one thing he could do. He had to tell his love the truth, and give him the advice that had been given to him by the witch who had passed her curse to him so many years before. The advice he should have listened to before it was too late:

Run. And never come back if you value this life.

[puhpandas]

ideal ggy reveal for me right now is some sort of game whatever format theyd use (for example sb vs hw is very different storytelling) about vanny killing dr rabbit and it leads up to the beginning of sb at the end

[profanepurity]

Do people treat Evan and Gregory like if they were twins?

It’s kinda complicated lol.

I’ll have more content diving into this concept later, but it might be helpful if I give some AU explanation. Evan’s spirit (or remnant) is attached to Gregory basically. After Evan was killed, William made Gregory as a vessel so he could “bring back his son”. But since Evan was sharing Golden Freddy with Cassidy this whole time he could never find Evan’s remnant before he got Springlocked. Fast forward to Henry nuking everyone after fnaf Sim, and all the souls were “freed” and Evan left Golden Freddy’s body. Fast forward even more to Vanessa dedicating herself to Malhare and trying to resurrect William, and now all of the spirits are starting to come back due to the past being awoken, including Evan. Our little ghost boy finds Gregory’s idle body and possesses him; feeling compelled to the robot. This wakes up Gregory, who’s confused and lost. (Imagine just spawning and having no idea how to do anything lol) Gregory was left in an underground lab that is of course, right underneath the pizza plex. He makes his way up to the surface and he’s been hiding out ever since.

Now, Evan doesn’t show himself for a while, and just sort of hides inside Gregory and watches shit go down. When Gregory meets Michael and the rest of the original cast they actually view Gregory as Evan, which Gregory is understandably annoyed by.

(One of the motivations I’m writing for William wanting Vanny and the cult to resurrect him so badly in the pizza plex is because he knew Evan and Elizabeth were back. More pressingly, he was banking on Evan possessing Gregory like he’d hoped for and was now trying to get to his son as fast as possible. I’m not writing William as a 100% heartless, boring person. I’m giving this man layers dammit. Complex like a purple onion)

Anyways, once Evan decides to come out and say hi again then they start to view them more as separate boys. Though, Evan is still very much attached to Gregory. He can’t stray very far from him, and he’s sort of emotionally attached himself to him too. Evan is technically much older, but Gregory is always the one reassuring his ghost counter part and talking him into getting into trouble having fun.

TL; DR: Yes, they are viewed kind of like twins once Evan shows himself, but before that Gregory was seen AS Evan.

(Thank you for the ask!!)

[chipistrate]

Okay so there's this dude named Dr. Rabbit right and he's got this sister/coworker named Vanny right and ohhhh my god they love to annoy each other so much they hate each other they want each other dead so badly but they love each other and care about each other and constantly do stuff to annoy one another and make their job harder but if anyone else messes with them it's death on sight (cough second therapist cough), at least one of the missing kids in SB is a bully of Rab's that Vanny took out so they'd leave him alone<3 That's HER brother only SHE can bully him!!!

They always joke about wanting each other gone and how they wouldn't miss each other if they disappeared when they're being annoying and they've always assumed they were being serious, but then Dr. Rabbit disappears after Gregory is freed at the beginning of Security Breach and there's no possible way to explain how absolutely distraught Vanny felt when she realized he was gone and she didn't know how to get him back- she has SUCH a grudge against Gregory for freeing himself because now she has no idea where Dr. Rabbit is or if he's even still around or if he just straight up got deleted and there's no way of recovering him- she wasn't tasked with killing Gregory, she was tasked with trying to get him back to they could infect him with a new virus and she'd essentially have a new coworker- but Vanny does NOT want that. AT ALL. She is SO pissed at Gregory and she doesn't WANT a new coworker- she wants Rab- but if she can't get Rab, then she'll disobey and try to kill Gregory instead.

It's especially tragic if we take Ruin into account- with the Vanni virus possibly still being around, while Glitchtrap and Dr. Rabbit aren't- that'd essentially mean Gregory took everything from her. Took her boss, her brother, her host, even her home now that the Pizzaplex is destroyed. There's still another version of her boss deep in the ruins of the Pizzaplex, but he's locked away tight, again, by Gregory. Vanni is the only one left and if she gets her hands on Cassie then ohhhh BOY she'll be using her new host to her full advantage to finally get rid of Gregory.

Though on a more wholesome-ish note of what could've happened in Ruin; the Brazil ending hallucinations with Gregory and Vanessa have been speculated to be Dr. Rabbit and Vanny, taking the two's forms to trick Cassie into a false sense of security- and if that was the case, then that'd mean that Vanny found Dr. Rabbit again and the two got to reunite<3 Gregory still took her boss and her home, but I'm sure if she has her brother by her side, she and him can still cause some mischief in the AR world to entertain themselves while waiting for Mimic to be freed and put them right back to work<3

Also hey on the topic of Gregory have I ever talked about the Tangle and how I think the LCI (lost children incident, SB missing kids) are trapped inside it and are like one big hivemind possessing it? Cause I have a fair few thoughts about that and holy shit if Gregory ever remembered being Dr. Rabbit he'd feel SOOO bad if he ever saw them again- all those lost kids, kids just like him, kids who will never be able to grow up like he can, kids who will never be able to see their families again, kids who will never be able to see their friends again- all of them are trapped in a huge tangled mass of wires and animatronic parts. They'll never be found, and it's doubtful they'll ever escape the prison that the Pizzaplex has become to them. Tangle 2 me is a creature that will never take the protagonist or the antagonist side, they're a mixed up cluster of spirits, loud voices constantly talking over one another, some wanting to forgive 3 star fam, others wanting to kill them. The only thing they can ever agree on is protecting innocent children who may wander into Pizzaplex- or at the very least not hurt them, ignore them. They don't want any new spirits added to the mix, they don't want any new kids who have their whole lives ahead of them to be involved in any of this. They're just a cluster of scared, confused, angry kids who all want to go home and see their parents again.

That devolved from being about Gregory's guilt to being about the Tangle- but you can see how that would destroy him, right? Gregory, the problem solver he is, can't solve this problem. He doesn't know how to free the spirits, and he can't just go back in time and not kill them. They're all trapped in that beast, and in the Pizzaplex, and Gregory doesn't know how to help them. He's just a clueless kid in this situation, and he couldn't hate that fact more.

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[thoughtlessgayfrog]

If you’re still answering Ace Attorney stuff, I’d like to know about the Miles Edgelord (spelling is intentional) guy. I know nothing about this franchise, but I like his vibes.

Honestly yea I imagine you’d enjoy him, he’s very bad at communicating but he’s doing his best. Also he always wears this dumb little cravat thing and it’s so funny he looks so fancy

He’s got one of them tragic backstories! His father, Gregory Edgelord, was a very chill guy and defense attorney. Miles wanted to be like him all his life, he watched recordings of his court proceedings with awe and he was determined to be a defense attorney just like his dad. However, one day Gregory took like a six year old Miles to the courthouse with him, and while they were going down the elevator it got lost power due to an earthquake, and they were trapped in there with a court bailiff for so long that the oxygen began to deplete, and everyone was going a bit crazy. After five hours, the bailiff went crazy, screaming and trying to strangle Gregory because he was ‘stealing his air.’ The gun from his belt had fallen off, and Miles grabbed it, and threw it at the bailiff in hopes of saving his father. The gun fired and then Miles passed out. When he came to, his father was dead from a gunshot wound that Miles assumed he had caused. He lived with the horrific guilt of that for like twenty some odd years? Really sad. He cuts off all contact with his friends and becomes cold, and gets adopted into the family of a rival prosecutor. Manfred von Karma, a strict and greedy man, raised him as a prosecutor, and trained him to use any methods necessary to get a guilty verdict. Miles ends up being a pretty snotty asshole for a while because of it.

But later it’s revealed that what actually happened was when Miles threw the gun, it fired through the glass of the elevator door and hit a man in the shoulder. That man, Manfred von Karma, then picked up the same gun and shot into the elevator. The bullet hit Gregory and he died. Von Karma then took in Miles to prevent any risk of his murder getting out. Also just to be a dick because he didn’t like Gregory and just wanted to fuck with his family in general.

Once you prove Miles never killed anyone, it isn’t over for him. A few months after the secrets are out, he decides he needs to do a bit of self reflection and disappears to Europe. Except. He leaves a note on his desk saying ‘Miles Edgeworth chooses death’ and so everyone thinks he’s dead? Like you have to understand that Phoenix, the guy you play as, was his best friend in elementary school. Phoenix was so worried when Miles went off the charts due to von Karma that he based his entire law career around finding Miles again. And then once he’s finally freed him from his guilt the dude just leaves an ominous suicide sounding note and it just kinda wrecks everyone. But it’s fine! Miles comes back later, and he’s had some time to think, and hes now ready to prosecute again with better morals. He works with the player during trials, he like. Actively gives you evidence you shouldn’t have so that you can work together to find the truth. It’s very nice, he’s a great guy. He and Phoenix have a lot of romantic tension (it can also easily be read as two friends with a very deep bond but the fandom likes to read them as homos which I wholeheartedly agree with) and he has a lot of entertaining interactions with him in that vein. He has a chess set sitting in his office and one side is painted red, and the other is painted blue with spikes. Looks a lot like him and Phoenix.

That’s kinda the basics! That’s his whole backstory, he’s one of those people that have a really pretentious vibe but in actuality he’s just awkward and is trying to learn how to interact. At the end of the case where you prove he didn’t kill his dad someone tells him he should be celebrating, and so he clears his throat and says ‘wooooo hoooo’ in a very flat and monotone voice. But like he is doing his best and I love it for him. He’s really obsessed with this children’s cartoon called the Steel Samurai, he’s got like a giant statue of it in his office and he collects the trading cards for it. He gets very embarrassed if you try to bring thing up.

Unrelated to lore, his suit color can be read as the hex code #boob69. Just a fun tidbit for you. If you wanna know more I will gladly talk about more things, I think this is a good cursory look at his story though. I hope you like him he’s a neat little prosecutor man

[chaoticrobotics]

Idea 1: Vanessa quits her job

This idea is based on my interpretation that the Vanessa we see in Security Breach isn't really her; it's Vanny controlling her. Vanessa's consciousness is there, but all that she can do is just watch, like viewing your own life through an old television.

So after the 3-star ending, Vanessa would be left with a job that requires skills that "she" technically never had. She can't just pull up Vannys memories (which i have her being able to do because extra pain :D) because there are no memories of how to do that job, a final "f*ck you :D" to Vanessa from Vanny before she left.

(I feel this needs a bit more of an explanation. Vanny had an instinctive knowledge of how to use any electronic device, courtesy of Glitchtrap/Afton. This meant that she never had to read any instructions for any of the surveilance equipment that she used on the job. She also never looked down at keyboards when she typed the passwords needed to access the security computers sinceVanny had all the passwords to herself. All this means is that when Vanessa looks back at these memories, they are effectively useless.)

So now all Vanessa has left are her own memories of watching herself push random buttons that do random things. It would be like trying to learn how to fly a plane solely by watching someone else do it.

Vanessa also realizes that she'd have to still assist lost children after hours, a thought that truly scares her. It's not because she doesn't like children, no. In fact, I believe Vanessa used to work really well with children due to her former position as a video game tester/coder. This might not make much sense, but is elaborated upon in idea 2.

It is also stated in the game in one of the logs that you can find that she was not recommended for a position as a security guard, so it just makes sense for her to leave afer being freed.

So she would put in her 2 weeks notice, but not before working out some special deal with the plex that allows her and Greg the gremlin of chaos to visit the pizzaplex whenever they want and for any length of time.

As for what job she would try to go back to? It would be her old job of beta testing and coding. She was evidently very good at it based on those cut AR emails. It might sound like tempting fate, but I think that Vanessa would be a heck of a lot more careful this time if she was put back on the VR project. That assumes that the project is still even active.

That way she can make sure that what happened to her, never happens to anyone again.

[Those are some pretty neat ideas! I feel like Vanessa would struggle a bit trying to make things seem like they are normal, maybe try to access muscle memory for passwords, but in the end fail and just be causing herself way more stress by staying at a job that is more than she can handle.

Also her fear that Vanny could still be in her, or that she herself would have the capability to hurt children, is a pretty realistic take that I do like a lot. I have a similar idea that Vanessa, once cured, would definitely be a lot more careful of children in the fear that she might one day reactivate Vanny or have those sick thoughts to kill a kid herself.

I don’t know if, in this situation, she would be comfortable with Gregory tagging along with her. Unless you meant that she just got Gregory access and he’s going to go off and do his own thing. I can see her doing that, using her knowledge of what really happened as leverage against the company that always wants to sweep things under the rug. She would have to be careful though because they could just throw her under the bus, but I feel like Fazbear Entertainment would just let her and Gregory visit the Pizzaplex for free if that is what she is asking for. It’s better than paying a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

As for the job situation, I don’t think she would ever go back to being a beta tester. She might swear off most technology, at least video/videogame wise for a while because of her experiences. She might do something more in tuned with nature and animals, maybe a nature guide or something like that. I just can’t see her, with all her trauma and the mental pain that Vanny caused, ever even given a sliver of a chance for that to happen again. I doubt Vanessa knows the whole story about the Afton Virus, what caused it, how it truly spreads, so she would just swear off video games and videos entirely, at least for a few years before being forced to re-enter the digital space because of how our society deems being online as important.]

[miiilowo]

Idea 5: Vanessa visits the graves of her victims and sees ghosts

I didn't think I'd be doing more of these, but here we are.

An idea that I've seen exceedingly few fics try and cover is Vanessa encountering the ghosts of the people whom she (as Vanny) murdered after the 3-star ending.

I am unsure as to how one would make this situation happen. Maybe it could be a dream.

A scenario that I like most has to do with the idea that Vanessa visits the graves of the children she (no vanny) killed. After she was freed, she reported the location of the bodies so that they could recieve a proper burial. Vanessa knows that it isn't enough, she doesn't think that she will ever be able to do enough to atone for what she did to all of those children (it wasn't you, it was Vanny.) At the very least she tries to go and visit their graves once a week, making sure to bring flowers for them everytime. Vanessa doesn't say anything during the visits, what is there to say? "I'm sorry?" Yeah right, as if SHE is deserving of forgiveness...

I really like it because there are a lot of things you could potentially cover, including:

How would the ghosts react to seeing the freed Vanessa? Would the children be enraged? If so, what would they do?

Or would they be able to see that the person in front of them is not really the same as the one who murdered them, not mentally, at least? Maybe (relating back to idea 2: "Vanessa is good with kids") the children who were taught by her would be able to convince the other children of this.

How about the therapists? They would likely be more willing to listen, being adults trained in understanding psychological conditions.

One could discuss how Vanessa has been dealing with having 2 sets of childhood memories, a fake abusive one (put there by Glitchtrap for reasons of being a dick) and her true, standard, evidently normal one.

And, of course, we can't forget Vanessa. What would she do? It is most likely that she would curl up into a ball and await the punishment that she thinks she deserves (she doesn’t). After all, it is HER fault, right? (No, it’s Vanny's.)

If you include Gregory in this encounter, he, being the "no fear" gremlin that he is, would probably try and start to defend his… uh… paternal guardian of unspecified rank in some way, either by trying to explain that Vanny is no more, or try and actually fight the ghosts.

As you can see, there are many ways that I think someone can make a mini story out of this concept.

this is a neat concept i think. obviously our versions of this chick differ Greatly like Immensely like an Absurd amount but its neat given what youve got going on imo. and if i were to spin it for my cck au version of her, that would work rather well i think. draw some parallels between her and william. fuck her up a little bit

[raeloganthesonic06fangirl]

Idea 5: Vanessa visits the graves of her victims and sees ghosts

An idea that I've seen exceedingly few fics try and cover is Vanessa encountering the ghosts of the people whom she (as Vanny) murdered after the 3-star ending.

I am unsure as to how one would make this situation happen. Maybe it could be a dream.

A scenario that I like most has to do with the idea that Vanessa visits the graves of the children she (no vanny) killed. After she was freed, she reported the location of the bodies so that they could recieve a proper burial. Vanessa knows that it isn't enough, she doesn't think that she will ever be able to do enough to atone for what she did to all of those children (it wasn't you, it was Vanny.) At the very least she tries to go and visit their graves once a week, making sure to bring flowers for them everytime. Vanessa doesn't say anything during the visits, what is there to say? "I'm sorry?" Yeah right, as if SHE is deserving of forgiveness...

I really like it because there are a lot of things you could potentially cover, including:

How would the ghosts react to seeing the freed Vanessa? Would the children be enraged? If so, what would they do?

Or would they be able to see that the person in front of them is not really the same as the one who murdered them, not mentally, at least? Maybe (relating back to idea 2) the children who were taught by her would be able to convince the other children of this.

How about the therapists? They would likely be more willing to listen, being adults trained in understanding psychological conditions.

One could discuss how Vanessa has been dealing with having 2 sets of childhood memories, a fake abusive one (put there by Glitchtrap for reasons of trying to make her more obedient, which ended up failing) and her true, standard, evidently normal one. (in this universe patient 46 and their tapes didn't exist, save for that one line about lying about childhood, just pretend it was in one of Vanessa's tapes)

And, of course, we can't forget Vanessa. What would she do? It is most likely that she would curl up into a ball and await the punishment that she thinks she deserves (she doesn’t). After all, it is HER fault, right? (No, it’s Vanny's.)

If you include Gregory in this encounter, he, being the "no fear" gremlin that he is, would probably try and start to defend his… uh… paternal guardian of unspecified rank in some way, either by trying to explain that Vanny is no more, or try and actually fight the ghosts.

As you can see, there are many ways that I think someone can make a mini story out of this concept.

Vannesa trying to get therapy and forgiveness be like

But in all seriousness, didn't like five of her Fazbear Entertainment employed therapists get absolutely ripped to shreds by the malfunctioning animatronics via the Special Delivery service anytime any one of them got remotely close to uncovering her cry for help? I can imagine that already weighs heavy on the brain and probably has her subconsciously afraid to ask for help now even though she's totally free from William at the point of this scenario. So finding a therapist she's willing to open up to without that nagging bit in the back of her brain that's probably blaring "Remember what happened last time you tried this?" 👀

Also a very interesting idea!