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Anakin Starkiller The Broadsword Laser Sword (Stars' End) | New Saber Alert

Anakin Starkiller The Broadsword Laser Sword (Stars’ End) | New Saber Alert

Anakin Starkiller The Broadsword Laser Sword has been released. The custom saber, a static display piece cast in resin, is inspired by the Kylo Ren crossguard saber prop displayed at Star Wars Celebration in 2015. Anakin Starkiller released The Broadsword Laser Sword resin lightsaber hilt on May 4, 2022. Stars’ End (operated by Anakin Starkiller) https://www.atstarsend.com Disclaimer: This…

[americankimchi]

how heavy do you think cal's lightsaber is. like the blade itself is weightless, but the hilt has so many configurations that it HAS to be significantly heavier than the average saber hilt. especially once you get the crossguard attachment unlocked..... it also depends on the materials used of course. it's a good thing he gets so much practice in, otherwise i think it would be a challenge to wield it without noticable effort.......

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[marinersubmariner]

My sword!!!

[drunk-on-starlight]

Wait Cal also does the same sort of shoving activation motion with his lightsaber that Kylo does. I am connecting these dots

[farfartothewestofeverywhere]

apparently there are a lot of High Republic vibes in the Jedi Survivor trailer so I need to actually read some High Republic stuff asap

[inquisitor-apologist]

EDIT: Anon has informed me that Obi Wan’s weapon is a meteor hammer, which is pretty cool!

For the uninitiated:

Gunsaber

Inquisicoptor

Lightwhip

Umbrellasaber

Lightsaber knifesuit

Lightsaber tonfas

Swiss Army Knife Saber

Weird saber vents

Obi-Wan’s meteor hammer thingy

Jocasta Nu lightsabergun

[howtofightwrite]

What is the difference between fencing and actual sword fighting, exactly? If I were to throw an olympic fencer against a master swordsperson, what would the most likely outcome of such a fight be?

The first and most obvious answer is that only one of these individuals is trained for combat.

The second answer is that only one of them uses (and trains with intent to use) a real weapon.

I’m going to assume this question revolves around an Olympic fencer dueling with a master swordsman with a live weapon and not in accordance with Olympic fencing rules. An Olympic fencer’s best chance at winning is a bout with a modern epee/saber under Olympic fencing rules and it’s also the case where (probably) no one dies or is gravely injured.

Olympic fencing is a sport. As a result of its evolution, it’s pretty much unrecognizable as even a martial form today and, in pursuit of the new requirements for winning, has divested itself of the weapon aspect. While much of the terminology remains the same, the key difference to grasp about Olympic fencers is that they’re not trained to fence around the idea that the sword in their hand is a dangerous weapon (because it isn’t.) In fact, the ultimate goal of winning in their sport (score points) is hindered by that mentality. To the Olympic fencer, it doesn’t matter if they get hit so long as they score first and have right of way when they do. If those at the top of the sport were handed a real historical epee, told to fence, and changed nothing in their approach, the end result would be a double suicide. (Which is ironic because that’s one of the reasons why the epee was restricted historically. When it came to dueling, it was a little too efficient.)

There is no caution here because there doesn’t need to be. Tactics and techniques which will cause a fencer to commit suicide against an opponent with a live blade work exceptionally well once the risk of death is off the table.

This isn’t just restricted to Olympic fencing. If you take any martial art that has transitioned to a sport and put the practitioner up against someone who kills people for a living, even if they are one of the best in their field, they will be at an inherent disadvantage. The requirements for winning according to the sport’s rules are vastly different from the requirements for winning in a life or death situation.

And that’s just the first hurdle.

The next hurdle is the weapon itself.

Duels are specifically between weapons of the same type. This rule is meant to level the playing field and ensure the duel is decided on “skill” rather than weapon advantage. Depending on their point of origin (for the purpose of this question, I’m assuming European) a master swordsman would have been familiar with and likely trained in several different sword styles, depending on era would be a master of their own school or in the employ of a noble house. If you need a comparable profession for a master duelist, think of them like lawyers. Except, the victory was decided by skill with a blade rather than a compelling argument. (We could say that skill with a blade is a compelling argument, but I digress.) One doesn’t get to be a master swordsman until after many years of study with the blade and victories under their belt. Depending on the era of history, the duel requirements of the duel could be anywhere between armored or unarmored, to first blood or to the death, and cover a variety of different swords, each with their own developed styles (and that is styles plural.)

Our Olympic fencer will be fucked by varying degrees depending on the live blade in question but, make no mistake, they’ll be pretty much fucked by any option picked. Running counter to their ubiquitous nature in popular culture, swords are not one size fits all. Outside of common principles there’s almost no training crossover. Every sword handles differently. These variations include length of the blade, length of the hilt, location of the crossguard, the weapon’s weight, the weapon’s weight distribution, the location of its balance point, whether it is primarily used with one hand or two, whether it is primarily a weapon for thrusting (the rapier) or cutting (the saber,) etc. Their grip would be off, and  probably wouldn’t be able to hold the sword properly.

The modern version of a fencing “sword” is not equivalent to any of these. Their closest stylistic match up in terms of inherited movement is the 19th century epee, but we’re still miles apart.

Then there’s the mentality issue.

The Olympic fencer hasn’t trained around the idea that death or major injury are accidental. Possible, yes, a risk, yes, but in the same way they are for any other sport. These are surprise, tragic occurrences and not part of regular bouts. For reference, in terms of the dangers of physical contact, a modern fencer faces less risk than a football player. For the master swordsman, the opposite is true. There is no variant of historical dueling which doesn’t risk death in some capacity, whether that’s a confirmed death on the dueling field itself or from an injury or infection later. Those historical circumstances where you see individuals dueling topless is (ironically) for practical reasons and not titillation. Many duelists, victorious or not, died from infection after cloth or other detritus got into their wounds. In this way, our modern Olympic fencer is less prepared than a duelist of average skill, much less a master.

Is the Olympic fencer ready to put their life and body on the line? To risk death, permanent injury, a potential blinding in one eye, in a bout that, at best, involves zero physical protection? I’m not sure. Probably not off the cuff. It requires a different mindset.

Are they ready to inflict damage on another person? Are they ready to kill another person? And even if they’re ready, are they willing to? Are they resolved to? Are they ready to risk their own life in pursuit of it?

The Olympic fencer is on the starting line with these questions.

The Master Swordsman has already answered them.

One of the difficult aspects about writing violence and characters who practice martial disciplines with intent to exercise those skills is internalizing the risks involved and ensuring their a natural part of your character’s mindset and their approach to combat.

Fiction is an illusion. Your narrative’s world is as real as you, the author, choose to make it. Characters are immortal, have infinite stamina, possess skill with every weapon, are unbeatable unless you choose otherwise. Regardless of reality, if you choose to make an Olympic fencer and a Master Swordsman fight exactly the same way with the same skill set, that’s how it is.

I’ve seen plenty of published authors treat swords as universal and modern Olympic fencing like it lends their character any real martial skills. (I mean, beyond excellent conditioning.) You can do it and get away with it if that’s what you want. Personally, I find it less interesting because it cheats the character out of their growth. Also, you don’t need to lean into that approach for “Girls Can Fight” or as a way for a female character to gain combat skills because there were female fencers who trained on the blade.

Ways for the Olympic fencer to win:

Dumb luck.

Yeah. That’s it.

The Master Swordsman should knock the blade out of their hand, take the Olympic fencer under their wing as their apprentice, and wander the world together solving crimes.

10/10.

-Michi

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[cutecuttlefish]

The sword of the day is the urumi.

The urumi is an Indian weapon, also called a whip sword. The handle is identical to the Indian talwar saber, with a crossguard, knucklebow, and disc pommel. The blade, though, is made from edged steel, but has an extreme amount of flexibility, allowing it to be wielded more like a whip than a traditional sword. In use, wielders would make use of spins and other similar maneuvers to control the weapon’s momentum. It requires a huge amount of training to use properly, even more so than a normal whip given its capacity to harm the user, and is certainly not something the average soldier would wield.

[2for1bagels]

Wrenwolf Rainbow Week - Blue

Sabine Wren x Shin Hati

321 words

The light of the saber illuminates the darker corner of the training room, reflecting on the metal walls and floor, highlighting the metal of Shin's armour as she admires the light and the hilt.

"Not bad, for the scraps you had to work with." She admits, almost as a tease as Ezra tilts his head and furrows his brow.

"Not- not bad? It's beautiful, what could possibly make this better?"

"Your crossguard is large, it covers your whole hand but will make retrieving it from a distance harder than it has to be. And make form five harder than it needs to be."

"I'm more of a form four kinda guy. Besides, I got the blade the right way first time, which according to Huyang is an achievement some padawans don't make until they're at least 14." He responds in mock pride, gaining a smile from the mercenary.

"And some would say, that's the level he's stayed at ever since" Sabine taunts as she approaches, using the back of one hand to wipe some sweat from her brow, unsleeved arm flexing slightly as she does so in her training gear.

Smiling wider, not half at the sight as she would never admit, Shin flicks the weapon's switch, the blue glow dissepating as the blade retracts, leaving only her eyes still the same colour as they lock into Sabine's. The smile spread to the other woman, who says nothing else as she takes in the moment alongside her white-haired partner.

"This is adorable guys, but I think Huyang is having a problem. His training blades haven't shut off?"

"No technical issues, Master Bridger, I simply heard what Mistress Hati said about my 'scraps' as she called them."

The challenge clearly accepted, Shin wordlessly hands the hilt back to Ezra before unclipping her own from her belt and confidently walking past Sabine, offering her a peck to the cheek as she passes.

[short-wooloo]

Y'know, Ezra getting another blue saber could have been fine if it wasn't just a regular standard lightsaber

Like, if it was a doublesaber, a crossguard saber, a spinning saber (totally feels like something Ezra would do), or like some saber-nunchucks it being blue would have been fine,because the saber itself would have been fine

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Saberproject Shop Anemos Crossguard Lightsaber | New Saber Alert

Saberproject Shop Anemos Crossguard Lightsaber | New Saber Alert

Saberproject Shop Anemos Crossguard Lightsaber has been released. The custom saber, an original design, is a crossguard variation on the semi-modular Anemos saber design. Saberproject Shop offers the Anemos Crossguard Lightsaber as an installed pixel saber equipped with a Plecter Labs Crystal Focus 10 (CFX) soundboard. Saberproject Shop released the Anemos Crossguard Saber in May 2022. EXPLORE…

[theangelwithawand]

Cal Kestis’s Lightsaber

Cal’s lightsaber is cool. I know the reason for the stances is because video game, but character and story-wise it makes sense too.

The different stances give Cal increased adaptability for different situations. It plays into the whole “Survivors. We adapt.��message.

It also shows Cal’s natural combat prowess. No one taught him to wield these other stances, he figured it out on his own, building on a strong foundation from Jaro Tapal.

It’s also a great reminder of his scrapper days. Light sabers are notoriously difficult to build and modify, and for Cal to build such a complex weapon, it is clear how much Prauf taught him on Bracca.

Finally, I love what the double bladed saber represents for Cal. He builds it on Ilum after overcoming a moment of hopelessness. He takes the broken crystal and uses it to make a double bladed saber that can split apart. He adapts.

A lot of people comment that his double bladed stance feels really powerful compared to others, and I can’t help but wonder if that’s on purpose. Story-wise it makes the most sense for it to be the one he favors. Yes, he usually defaults to a standard saber in cut scenes but that’s the one he was trained on. He’s also had the double sided saber since the first game, meaning he’s had five years of training with it. He’s had the split sabers too, but he used them as a special attack within the double sided saber stance.

As much as I love Jedi Survivor, I don’t think the studio understands how crossguard sabers work. I understand having it be a heavy two-handed weapon because video game, but crossguard sabers aren’t from a custom emitter. When you bleed a crystal wrong you need vents to emit the excess energy. It’s nothing game breaking but I think it’s funny.

I’m sure that I am not the first one to come up with this headcanon, but I like to think that Cal changes his lightsaber color from its canonical blue to green after starting something with Merrin so he can match her magick. Because Cal is dorky like that.

Also, the lightsaber he uses technically isn’t his. It belonged to Jaro Tapal.

Anyway, thanks for my too-long meta analysis of me reading too deeply into things that probably only exist because of video game mechanics!

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The Executioner’s Maw Lightsaber (Staw Wars: The Old Republic)

[localsya]

Soooo... I saw you like Star Wars too! Can we get Star Wars/Elden Ring hcs maybe?

Ty if you answer!

helooo! sorry it took me so long to answer but HEHEHE OFC OFC, methinks i will be just giving them sabers according to which color/style/form matches their characters uvu

Elden Ring/Star Wars lightsabers for each character 💛

Ryckard- Inquisitor Saber// Form 2 Makashi

NOT GIVING THIS MAN THE INQUISITOR SABER IS A FUCKING CRIME, red kyber too, his slow decent into the dark forces HMMMM also ryckard is def a form 2 user, this man is an absolute beast in getting the upper hand in one to one duels, insanely skilled too

Ranni- Dual Wield// Form 7 Juyo

the ahsoka set but with purple kyber crystals, ranni would probably be way more strong with the force tho, and def a form 7 user, same reason why purple kybers, 10/10 this woman would use without a doubt dark side force to achieve her goals, bUt tHatS mOrALly wRoNG, yeah thats exactly why 💀💀💀💀

Malenia - Single Curve Handle // Form 5 Djem So

AGAIN SAME AS RYCKARD, red kyber cause this poor girl has seen some shit... not giving this woman count's dooku's saber is a crime, this hilt was literally meant and thought for excellency in one on one duels, combined with form 5 agressiveness and blade to blade skill, lethal combo

Melina - Guardian Saber // Form 3 Soresu

OBI WAN KENOBI OF ELDEN RING SMH, yellow kyber too cause this woman would def be a guardian, a protector of the force rather than a fighter and same reason why her fighting style would be the ultra defence of soresu, same reason why soresu users rarely get beaten

Godwyn- Tirall Lightsaber Pike // Form 4 Ataru

probably one of the best forms of combat, very acrobatic and a show off to look at, very balanced since its also really stronk with the force, yellow/orange kyber for godwyn too since this particular pike would come from the old republic (the dragons era)

Rennala- Lithium Saber // Form 3 Soresu

FINALLY A BLUE SABER JESUS, very elegant and sleek, quick and light to handle, same as ranni rennala would be much stronger with the force and its why soresu fits her perfectly, she would def be a very defense wielder and most of the time would rely on the guidance of the force, blue kyber not only because of caria but because... this is the way.

Marika/Radagon- Crossguard Saber // Form 7 Juyo

Its inestable as hell, crystal quite literally broken, red kyber for obvious reasons (that would originally be yellow and maybe white once the age of stars ending is reached) and same as ranni, a very rare fighting form to use that would without a doubt use morally doubtfull ways to win a duel

anyways gonna do only those methinks, kinda missed a bit answering these kind of asks, ty anon uvu 💕

[drunk-on-starlight]

While Kylo, Cal and High Republic Jedi lightsaber crossguards might not be useful against other lightsabers, they would be useful against normal and lightsaber resistant melee weapons such as beskar spears, magnaguard staffs and Praetorian Guard energy weapons.

Furthermore, the addition of a crossguard allows you to injure an opponent from a blade lock, as demonstrated by Kylo Ren against Finn on Starkiller base. According to Kanan, lightsaber blades are attracted to each other too, meaning the crossguard would attract and intercept an enemies blades, allowing you to strike without being struck.