#dramione vs romione

[fanfic-lover-girl]

Double Standards: Dramione vs Romione Edition

I am so sick of the double standards between the sexes when it comes to shipping.

That's perfectly valid...but why does this logic not apply to Ron??

Harry spun round to see Hermione pointing her wand at Ron, her expression wild: the little flock of birds was speeding like a hail of fat golden bullets towards Ron, who yelped and covered his face with his hands, but the birds attacked, pecking and clawing at every bit of flesh they could reach.

Why does Draco not deserve to be with Hermione but Hermione deserves Ron!? Draco has never even intentionally assaulted Hermione! I would say Draco calling her a slur or laughing about her potentially being sexually assaulted is a lesser offence than Hermione scarring Ron for life. Make it make sense! Doesn't Ron deserve better too then!? I guess I should be concerned for Romione shippers too.

Before Romione fans attack Dramione, they should probably check their own ship first because it's not exactly the beacon of healthy relationships either. Just because Dramione is worse, it does not make Romione good.

[friendofweasleys]

I might get some hate for this, but here we go…

I’m actually starting to hate the Harry Potter Fandom. There is so much division in the fandom and they fight each other regularly. Movie watchers vs Book Readers, Canon shippers vs Imaginary shippers, ships vs ships.

I don’t get this but why does Harry Potter have multiple ships? Why not accept the ships that are already there? It’s always harry with a lot of girls or Hermione with Harry or Death eaters. I’m getting tired of this hate between the fandom.

Sure you want a character to have redemption but that doesn’t mean to completely sully a well written character. Idk wtf wrong with this fandom bro. Look at Percy Jackson fandom, sure they might fight sometimes but everybody knows what is written in the books and they agree that their movie sucks and the new series is a great success. I don’t think Harry potter community will come together like this. And I think the main reason for this are Ships.

Look at the amount of ships,

Romione, Harmione, Dramione, Snamione, Lumione, Tomione, Regulus and Hermione, etc for Hermione.

Harmione, Hinny, Drarry, Rorry, Luna+harry, etc for Harry.

Romione, LavenderxRon, DaphnexRon, PansyxRon, Rorry, etc for Ron.

How can a fandom be together when they are divided like this? And the ones mentioned above only include the Golden Trio. Sure the other fandoms also have different shipping but they don’t hate each other like this.

Some people like Cursed Child, some people don’t. Some consider it canon, some don’t.

I’m out.

[broomsticks]

What was the HP fandom on AO3 writing in 2022?

some stats diving, ship- and femslash-focused.

default filters used for everything unless indicated otherwise: language: english, no crossovers. only on AO3 (obviously)

hmm someday i'll do a yearly breakdown maybe.

for reference, there were ~324,676 total works in the HP tag updated in 2022 and before, so the top ship Drarry makes up 16% of HP works.

ships in this list but not the former: jegulus, dorlene, and regulus & sirius.

ships in the former list but not this one: snarry, sevmione, tomarry.

harry the character is tagged in 42.7% of all HP works.

the list of "fastest-growing HP character tags in 2022" was almost identical to this. sirius, remus, james, and lily went up one place, severus and ginny down by one, and ron dropped by two. no change in the top 3.

i'm thinking of doing one for HP ships but am unsure which ships to do. you can get a rough estimation from graph #2 though!

A closer look at just the 2022 ships:

filters used: english, no crossovers, works updated between 2022-01-01 and 2022-12-31.

color = ship type by canonical gender. outlined = canon ship

Background vs main pairing ships:

most commonly tagged ships, with the otp:true filter:

very pretty spread of (canon gender, not AO3 category) F/M & M/M ships here.

notable: there is not a single snape ship in the first list, and two snape ships in the second (sevmione at #4 !! and snarry at #8). grindeldore is the other new entry, and

romione, dorlene and regulus & sirius fell out of the top 10

this is probably a better view though:

a mix of all ships in either of the top two graphs (excluding the platonic ship regulus & sirius by definition of the otp:true filter), plus remadora.

open to more ship suggestions, but at some point i need to think about a size cutoff

anyway: some interesting strata here:

snarry+sevmione at the >60-70% mark. (do all snape ships show this trend? just crossgen snape ships? what about other crossgen ships? to be investigated)

grindeldore is an expected outlier due to the different canonical time period

marauders era tends to have more fics-with-multiple-tagged-ships. unexpected - there are so many more named lightning gen characters! lightning gen fandom more splintered/fragmented?

clustering of canon couples at the 15-20% mark, surprisingly consistent across marauders vs lightning gen

oooooo i could soapbox about this dorlene outlier for days. (tldr: if you want to write OFCxOFC that's all well and good, but writing OFCxOFC as what's quite clearly a background ship and a background ship alone? i think we can do better.)

Multi-shipping & ship overlap

marauders era is dominated by one main fanon pairing. no other “/” pairing with either of these two characters makes the top 10 list. in contrast, wrt lightning gen, Draco, Harry, and Hermione are all shipped with each other, with all three combinations making the top 10 list.

there is one pair of marauders era ships with ship overlap, though. which means stats! also included remadora as an additional comparison point since that's another big overlapping ship

jegulus AND jily are tagged in 675 works, out of 3944 works (17%) where all three of james, lily, and regulus are tagged.

meanwhile drarry + dramione: 80 works tagging both ships, out of 8128 works tagging all 3 characters, with an overlap of <1% fics tagging both ships. these two do not mix.

actually ykw this all was very funny

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✨ FEMSLASH! ✨

filters used: english, no crossovers, works updated between 2022-01-01 and 2022-12-31, and category:F/F.

ok so that's a complete nonstarter 😂

tried two ways of filtering down to just femslash ships without losing too much else in the process:

1) excluding works tagged M/M, F/M, and Gen (leaving 2765 fics)

dashed outline = cross-gen ship. solid = marauders gen. everything else = lightning gen.

oh, interesting, people are writing genderbend wolfstar? *checks fics* -- no they're not. 'nuff said.

2) instead, tried adding the otp:true filter (2402 fics)

very similar results -- both lists had the same 9 femslash ships. Bellamione (#1 on both), Fleurmione (#2), Pansmione (#3/#4), Dorlene (#3/#5), Linny (#4/#6), Cissamione (#5/#6), Ginmione (#7/#9), Marylily (#7/#9), Ginsy (#8/#10).

i don't see any obvious trends re. which ships are ranked higher on one list vs the other.

a real quick rating comparison between categories, using the otp:true filter:

"angst" and "fluff" were the top two tags used for most categories so i decided to try a bit of:

<1 = more angst works than fluff, >1 = more fluff works than angst.

the other top tags for each category:

F/F and F/M: both romance (#3)

M/M: established relationship (#3)

Multi: polyamory (#3)

Other: au canon divergence (#3). "other" was used to refer to a mix of NB/trans character, thingfic, and x reader.

Gen: au canon divergence (#1). i was worried about using the otp:true filter for gen fic but the top two tags were indeed & tags (harry & severus, regulus & sirius).

[wafflinglumos]

Annabeth Chase vs Hermione Granger (this is half serious pls do not get upset at this)

We don’t even have to have the Percy vs Harry argument because we, for the most part all agree, that Percy Jackson wipes the FLOOR with Harry “private school” Potter, however, I’ve seen a lot of people compare Annabeth and Hermione and I wanna look more into that, I am a die hard Hermione AND Annabeth fan so ZERO ill will shall be spoke of either of them(unless need be)

I could point out how their general personalities are different but I’m going to start with their trios, starting with, Grover and Percy would NEVER treat Annabeth the way, that Ron and Harry treat Hermione, let me explain,

If Annabeth were to try to dismantle an unjust system built on the mistreatment of house elves, Percy and Grover would’ve IMMEDIATELY been on board, along with the fact that they’d praise her for it. When Hermione was trying to dismantle the way house elves were treated and tried to fix it, Ron and Harry just kinda went “You’re trying to change an unjust system that treats house elves as sub servant?? Well NERD NERD, it’s this way for a reason NERD, your stupid puke badges are DUMB” obviously I’m paraphrasing and being slightly dramatic, but that was basically it.

Before I get yelled at, yes, Hermione had her flaws, yes, Hermione sometimes sucked, HOWEVER, Ron and Harry treated her like dog shit sometimes, that’s not a controversial take or me hating on either Ron or Harry, that’s just canon. You could argue that Percy and or Grover treated Annabeth bad sometimes, but to counter that, no??? They had spats, yeah, sure, WHO doesn’t but NOT to the extent that Ron and Harry were literally ignoring her for, (checks my notes) telling McGonagall about the wizard equivalent of a Ferrari that Harry received with zero clue who it was from, while a serial killer was running loose.

Romione vs Percabeth, Percabeth OBVIOUSLY wins, however, I like Romione so I will be pointing out the positives in it as well as the negatives, while I’ve seen people argue that Romione is unhealthy or toxic(though they’re often dramione shippers??? The call is coming from inside the house) I’d however disagree, Hermione and Ron had a build up, and, by the end of the series(BOOK not movie) they were like THE most compatible of Hermione’s love interests, excluding maybe Viktor, they’re not unhealthy nor were they toxic, all of the arguments and everything that we saw and or read was setting it up, Ron and Hermione, objectively are the most compatible of BOTH of their other love interests, that’s not to say that they’re the healthiest ever, but I’d say their relationship is fairly healthy.

Percabeth is everything to me, and one of the healthiest written relationships I think I’ve ever seen, so, no deep diving into it, here I don’t think.

Anyways, moving on, the “Hermione vs Annabeth” or “Annabeth would totally win against Hermione” debate, I have reached a conclusive consensus,

They wouldn’t fight.

They just wouldn’t, sure, put them in a fight to the death and Annabeth Chase is winning, but still, they just wouldn’t fight.

[arliedraws]

Dramione is most popular because people like to imagine that they are banging Tom Felton or Emma Watson. Plus, people usually go for rich and arrogant rather than someone who is humble and comes from a better upbringing.

It’s always going to be way more dramione fics and art because of self inserts and taking Ron’s characteristics/personality and giving them to Draco.

Funny

Sarcastic

Tall

Wearing Weasley jumpers, like come on Narcissa would never let Draco wear a hand knit jumper

The list goes on and makes Ron into some horrible rapist/women beater/cheater/pureblood supremacist that treats Hermione like trash.

But oh well nothing can be done about it 🤷🏽‍♀️

I honestly don’t really care about Dramione vs. Romione, tbh—both are actually interesting to me. I actually do think Draco is sarcastic, and maybe he’d be funny if he were less mean, tbh. I just wish people were more true to who Draco actually is as a character and not this suave sexyman—which is funny, because I think it’s how DRACO sees himself 😂

But yeah, I hate when people make Ron into a terrible person just to serve the romance. I actually don’t HATE the idea of him cheating (if I can imagine James cheating, then I think Ron could do it—but not without the guilt, of course. Or he’s PISSED about something idk), but you get this awful version of Ron a lot of the time when Hermione gets with someone else (so that person can be her ‘savior’).

[neonscandal]

Hello, again, Neon...How are you? Sorry I have not log in tumblr for almost 2 month. I'm surprised you got quite a lot of interesting asks when I read your blog....

So, first thing first, now I'm in the middle of watching "Fushigi Yuugi", thanks to you. Now, I'm not really interested in the romance but I really love the story and worldbuilding. It's isekai but so good....Thanks for your rec, Neon....🌻🤩

I always love sorting characters to Hogwarts Houses, and because you said you don't mind, can I ask for : Miaka/Tamahome (classic trope done great), Narumi/Nifuji (cute couple), and Vash/Wolfwood (I'm depress after reading their story), Reki/Langa (just read BL that remind me of them)?

Last question (sorry for this long ask, feel free if you don't want to answer all), because you love Hermione, do you ship Hermione/Ron or Hermione/Draco or other? Why?

Hope you have a wonderful day, Neon. And sorry for late in saying this : Happy Belated Birthday, wish you all the good things in life 💐😄

Hello old friend, welcome back 🌻💛 Never a need to apologize! I dare say you and your many questions may have emboldened others to reach out haha so I suppose I should say thank you for that. And for your kind words always! 🥺❤️

For it to be an older series, I'm glad to hear the worldbuilding holds up! I always loved Tamahome, Chichiri and Nuriko because they were so funny to me when I was younger. I feel like I should revisit the series with you!

Of COURSE I'm gonna address your whole ask in one go. Just remember, fuck TERFs!

ROMIONE vs DRAMIONE

As a smooth brained child, I didn't really ship Hermione until there was more obvious signaling that she and Ron were end game. The books were coming out when I was literally the age of the characters and kids are easily influenced and don't think critically. Not even going into comphet shipping at that age. I also loved redheads or maybe just the Weasleys? As an adult, Ron kinda sucked as a partner for Hermione. He took Hermione for granted, wasn't really supportive of things that meant a lot to her (SPEW, though clearly she changed his mind based on his later concern for the elves), was generally harsh with his words regarding her until the cruft of their adolescence was really broken away but, in my opinion, Hermione outclassed Ron and Harry in a lot of ways. In this pairing, it feels like Hermione made Ron better but Ron didn't reciprocate that improvement where Hermione was concerned. We can say he made her more approachable but that was him and Harry and just general socialization. It's been awhile since I've read the books so I may be selling my boy Ron short here. But also, as an adult, I see brilliant, amazing women end up with mediocre (but somewhat earnest) men all the time so I guess we were adequately prepared in our childhood.

As an adult, I'm not going to say I ship Dramione but I definitely see the appeal more. Especially where fandom fills in the gap because, contextually, we see them at odds and how Hermione is bold enough to challenge Draco. She (similar to Ron in the above), isn't the only reason the Draco undergoes his necessary character development we see through the story but her audacity, I think, humbles him in a way that's different from Harry. This dynamic is also more aligned with ships I tend to gravitate toward where they're a little antagonistic with a soft underbelly. I'm not saying this question justifies sharing this beautiful animation by @lyrablack1883 but… an excuse is an excuse. 👀

Onto the neon Sorting Hat, I guess!

Bear in mind, I'm largely of the mind that where the other houses are fixed, Gryffindor is open to anyone brave enough to ask/insist so, if you don't agree, that's cool, too. I give the primary i think they'd be in otherwise.

Miaka Yuki (Fushigi Yuugi) - Gryffindor with Hufflepuff underpinnings. It's important to note that the tenderness that Miaka exhibits is not without an edge. She may not be strong but she isn't powerless. She is kind and accepting of others and fair with a sense of purpose when chosen to be a priestess and rises to the occasion. She's still stubborn and, in fact, the flaws that more prominently make her a Gryffindor is what endears her to others (and sets her at odds with Tamahome because she's a brat, let's be serious). Still, with the whole world on its head, Miaka doesn't shy away from her duty and grows a lot along the way.

Tamahome (Fushigi Yuugi) - okay this is a bit of a toss up but only because it's been so long since I've seen Fushigi Yuugi that I'm torn between Ravenclaw and Slytherin, for obvious reasons. Tamahome is loyal to a cause and is subsequently very logical about the means to satisfy that end. Character wise, I just can't determine (or recall, rather), whether he could justify any means to that end. I'm leaning toward Ravenclaw with the loyalty to his family and then the Suzaku Warriors but I'm open to your interpretation as someone who may have seen it more recently.

Narumi Momose (Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku) - Ravenclaw. Intuitively, Narumi had a goal in mind and creatively deduced camouflage would be the best means to be successful socially and at work. It's a little dishonest but with earnest intentions. But Narumi is a Ravenclaw in the daffy way the Luna Lovegood is a Ravenclaw. That's not to suggest neither lack intelligence but their focus tends to be elsewhere. Whatever the special interest, they know it all, you know? Good luck trying to be a normie, Narumi.

Hirotaka Nifuji (Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku) - Bear in mind I have one season of Wotakoi under my belt. But the biggest indicator for my determination is that Hirotaka managed to hide his crush on Narumi for the full duration of the season. Cool, and nonchalant but the frenzy when his brother almost blew his cover? Slytherin. Mans had a goal all along and while Narumi seemed to fall in line with that out of convenience, it suited his purposes all along and we only see an aberration in his behavior when that was potentially jeopardized. Harmless as the circumstances were, it's giving Slytherin.

Vash the Stampede (Trigun) - Hufflepuff to a fault with sympathy for the devil. He will do what is right, damn the consequences and the risk of personal injury to himself. He was given a life and seeks to protect the lives of others at all cost. This sunshine boy isn't without shadow, driven to offset his brothers' misdeeds, for sure. But Rem, I think, is a stronger guide in how Vash lives his life. He doesn't do it for the glory, it's simply what must be done. He certainly doesn't go looking for trouble the way a Gryffindor might. It just finds him and he tries to resolve it as amicably as possible with a moral compass always pointing due North.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood (Trigun) - SLYTHERIN. Hat's barely rested upon his head and definitively we know that Nicky D will do whatever's needed to get his desired end. Not saying Vash won't make him question himself but, ultimately, Nicholas will do what Vash can't. His morality rests upon a razor's edge and he's learned that the only way to protect the people he love's are by doing the dirty work necessary. With Vash's influence, he may be tortured about it, though.

Reki Kyan (SK8 the Infinity) - Gryffindor with a strong Hufflepuff alignment (is this why Miya warms up to him?). Not only is he earnestly hardworking and kind, the glue that brings everyone together. But he's also brave, punching well above his weight class to stand up to Adam and protect Miya and, ultimately, to triumph over him because of his own brilliance and ingenuity.

Langa Hasegawa (SK8 the Infinity) - Gryffindor with a spice of Ravenclaw. ✨ Naturally skilled and adept skater (after some serious hard work as a boarder), I think Langa wouldn't have wound up pursuing skating at all had he not gotten swept up into it through the series of events as outlined. But, in the new environment, he's able to leverage his previous expertise critically and playfully and ascend to awe inspiring heights. Doesn't mean he's not still a bit of a himbo. Affectionately, Reki and Langa at their core are idiot 🤝 idiot and we love them for it.

Anon, a BL that reminds you of Reki and Langa!? Drop the rec, bestie! How could you not include? Do I need to make a rules page? Pay the troll toll, guys!

[bohemian-nights]

My favorite romantic relationship for Daemon was his relationship with Laena. They seemed to have built a healthy and loving relationship and family. Another thing I like was the fact that she was an adult. Both by their standards and by our standards. And how she died was really heartbreaking. That being said the show f*cked them up in every which way. And then they f*cked his relationship with his daughters that while not much is given for in the book you can still make a claim that he loved and cared for them. In conclusion this show is sh*t and if Netty (who unfortunately is Daemons only saving grace) isn’t included this season I will be finding a new fandom to either join/re-join. Maybe my childhood favorite(s) ATLA or Percy Jackson since they both are getting new shows. The Hunger Game franchise just came out with a new movie that is slowly but surely getting me back on the wagon. H*ll I might even trade out one toxic fandom for another, I just can’t decide if it’ll be Bridgerton (though they’re only toxic when it comes to certain characters), Star Wars (I haven’t been apart of this one in a while but if my memory serves me it was just shipping wars) and if I’m really feeling it I’ll go back to Harry Potter (which is low-key worse than HOTD cause the writer is problematic as well as some of the actors/actresses and the stans are crazy and the shipping wars alone can make you leave the fandom ). But yeah I have low hopes for this next season.

Dettles has a special place in my heart, and I believe Nettles was Daemon's person, I will admit that Daemon and Laena is his least problematic ship. Instead of the showrunners giving us a relatively normal healthy loving marriage they gave us dog sh*t and I will forever be pissed off about that🫠

I’m gone too if Nettles is cut.

However, honestly, after this whole situation, I refuse to get involved with another fandom again.

Granted HOTD is probably one of the worst fandoms out there(I feel like it’s worse than GOT fandom), but there are a lot more sh*tty fandoms than there are good ones and I wouldn't want to trade one sh*tty fandom for another.

Star Wars is the same fandom that bullied Jar Jar Binks actor to the point where the poor man was suicidal and they bullied the kid who played Anakin to the point where he quit acting. Not to mention how fans treated John Boyega, Kelly Marien Tran, and Moses Ingram. Those people are just as mentally deranged as HOTD stans. In fact, a lot of Dumbnyra stans ship Reylo💀That’s really the last fandom I’d join. They are one of the OG crazy fandoms.

Never got into the Hunger Games, but I know they had their issues(Rue). Percy Jackson same issue. People’s grievances with JK Rowling aside, the Harry Potter fandom has calmed down, but I imagine the crazy antics will pick up again with the new series. At their height though they were probably running neck and neck with HOTD(I wouldn’t say it’s worse).

I love Avatar. Never got into the fandom(and even if I do decide to write something for Zutara because of this new show that will be my extent of fandom interaction).

Speaking as someone who is in the Bridgerton fandom, while it has its kooky fans they are relatively harmless by fandom standards. (Though I did have some Kathony fans getting mad at me over a non-issue and saying I should stick to watching the incest show🤣 even though I've been watching Bridgerton since the beginning ).

I feel like the type of show it is makes it difficult for really crazy fandom drama to form(which seems to revolve around shipping).

Everyone has their favorite couple of course(Benophie aka the best ship, Kathony, Polin, Saphne, Francheal, Grucy, or hey ship them all), but there is no infighting like Zutara vs Katang or Dramione vs Romione.

There is one ship per guy and girl and you ship them. That’s it. It’s simple. It’s easy. Everyone loves it. Of course, you can fight with another couple, but everyone’s couple is a couple. You can’t deny it’s not canon, that it won’t happen, or that they don’t love each other(well Eloise and her man are iffy, but they are a couple).

I may be biased though considering it’s my favorite show, but even with some kooky stans it’s great.

[fedonciadale]

Hi! Sometimes I worry I’m a hypocrite for being anti the pedoships, being pro Jonsa… but then being drawn to Darklina. I just can’t for the life of me get excited by Malina. I don’t hate them, I accept that they’re endgame, they’re just not compelling to me. (Haven’t read the books btw) I’m an adult, I’m not looking at it as a irl relationship model, I like it coz it explores things that I’d never find/seek irl. And I like angst, the tension, the light and dark imagery, the WHAT IF of it all 🥲

Hi there!

We ship what we ship. Honestly, I think one of the allures of shipping is that it is about storytelling. And we humans need stories to survive and thrive. It's one of the best coping mechanisms there is and it is as old as language.

This got long, therefore I put it under the cut.

Sometimes we are drawn to certain tropes. For me it mostly about angst and tension. I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers for that reason but as long as the ship is angsty I'm in.

One thing we should get rid off right away is to insinuate that shipping preferences say anything about our preferences for real life relationship. I am not denying that certain tropes like 'bad boy only needs sweet innocent girl to become a cinnamon roll' have an impact on the expectations on real life relationships and therefore can contribute to e.g. the idea that a woman just has to be nice enough to an asshole to 'convert' him. But that connection is far more complex than "woman reads story about an asshole becoming a cutie for his woman and immediately enters an abusive relationship herself". I mean how condescending towards the woman in question is that? Shipping is not the same as relationship goals.

I think we should allow for different kinds of shipping anyway and these are deeply connected to storytelling in a way. There is fanon and canon and I actually think that this is an important difference and half of the shipping discourse could be avoided if we would try to take this into consideration more often.

Fanon is very often about the WHAT IF: What happens with this character if I twist canon, just a little? What will be the possibilities of this character in this slightly re-arranged canon bent AU? And it can be a very small twist. Like just changing the POV. To give an example: If you just take the dialogue from Harry Potter's confrontation with Draco in the Room of Requirement in "Deathly Hallows" and switch the PoV to Draco and take the pre-condition to 'Draco wanted to prevent Harry from getting killed by Crabbe and Goyle because he knew he was the only chance against Voldemort' you can make it all fit. It's actually amazing. Just take Draco's desperately shouting "Don't kill him, Don't kill him!" seriously, like really seriously and you get another background.

So, fanon can be about exploring beloved stories, about fixing what we think is wrong in canon and so on. Sometimes it is about disliking canon ships or maybe just about not being convinced by them. In HP I knew from book four onward that Ron and Hermione would become a couple and I never liked it. It might be JRK's inability to write good romance or just the fact that I think they just don't fit. Still, I could believe them getting together and it would all have been fine for me, if not for the epilogue and Cursed Child. Without the epilogue I can always imagine Ron and Hermione realizing three years later that they might not be the best of ideas and split amicably. I headcanon that they had the divorce papers with them in the epilogue of Deathly Hallows. lol. Part of my dislike for the ship is that 'friends to lovers' has no allure for me: Where is the angst?

So, I ship Dramione 'enemies to lovers', canon bent and I like to explore how much or how little I can expand on canon or twist canon to make that possible. Because the books are published, they are obviously not canon, but to me at last they have far more story telling potential.

I actually think that the situation with Malina and Darklina is not that much different. I admit freely that I hated Malina in the books, because a) I didn't like fuckboy Mal (the womanizer who only comes around after realizing he's already met the right woman, not my fav trope) and b) I was absolutely convinced that Alina was supposed to get over her crush. So when they actually became endgame I was a bit pissed that my prediction had been wrong. Now, Malina in the show is cute. I sort of like the ship on the show, it is just not very interesting. So, I wonder about the "What if?" and Darklina. Darklina on the show had some good tropes that I really like: He saves her, he feels unworthy, there were plenty of "Beauty and the Beast" allusions. So, yes, the "what if" scenario is very alluring. That all does not mean that I think that Alina should come together with the Darkling in canon. I actually thought he would give his life for hers in the end, but I was mistaken about that as well. *shrugs*.

Now, then there is canon-shipping. Canon-shipping is not only about the couple about exploring the possibilities. It is about where you think the story will go, who would fit together. Who marries who, which couple we see as staying together, which (found) family is reunited at the end, which friends will live side by side is not irrelevant to the story. It is what makes a satisfying story. If a story ends with a death it has to be a meaningful death. Romeo and Juliet die and their death that is sort of pointless because it was the result of a misunderstanding actually turns out to have a point: The reconciliation of the families. If a story ends with a nice family, we are satisfied. Sam Gamgee "I'm home" is a classic!

So canon-shipping and the discussion about who is destined to be together is often about where we want the story to go and how we understand the character. And that is where all the ship wars in the ASOIAF fandom come from. To me, Jonsa was always about the story. About Stark restoration against Targ restoration about nurture vs nature. My dislike for Sans@n, for S@nrion and for Petyr/Sansa was never about the fanon. I can absolutely live with the fact that people ship them. I would not try to convince anyone to leave that ship. I just argue adamantly against anyone who wants one of these ships to be canon and be happy about it (not in general, just if they come on my turf so to say) because I think that at the basis of the arguments for these ships are several fundamental misunderstandings: a) that Sansa is an unimportant character who will end up with a tertiary character b) that it is a good idea that Sansa would end up with someone who sexually assaulted her c) that any of these guys is just a uwu misunderstood baby and not a villain.

I could understand if someone said: I think GRRM wrote grimdark books and Sansa ending up with any of these guys is not a happy ending, but these books never were supposed to have a happy ending.

I think, you can see what I want to argue: One type of shipping is: Oh, I wonder what could happen if I twist this a bit? and the other type of shipping is: This is where I think the author will go. They are completely different.

The first kind of shipping is personal preference and there is simply no way to argue with that and honestly why should you? If someone argues against Dramione and tells me: But it is a toxic, abusive ship, I just shrug and answer: Well, not in my fic.

And anyway, you don't know why people ship something. They might ship to cope. I had a very intensive phase where I sort of shipped Maeglin and Idril from the Silmarillion. In my made up stories Maeglin almost succeeded to get her, but he never did, because she managed to twist away in the last moment. I now know that this was a phase, where I needed this. I was in the middle of growing up and I was a bit frightened about all the grown up things I would have to do and playing with this story in my mind helped me overcome my feelings of being overwhelmed with all the new responsibilities.

So, tldr: fanon shipping is a personal preference. If you ship Darklina in a what-if scenario, why not? You don't run around and tell everybody that the Darkling is not a villain or that the author did not intend for him to be a villain. You might tell everyone that the author should not have made him a 100% villain (and I'm with you there). Fanon-shipping can be quite author-critical. Canon -shipping is about our interpretation of an author's work and their characters. And while this is also a matter of opinion there is also a centuries old tradition of analyzing fictional works and characters and as difficult as that might be with an unfinished work it is still an intellectual exercise not an exercise of our imagination. A scenario where arguments actually count. Where evidence should mean something. It is so difficult within the ASOIAF fandom because the early interpretations that people came up with after AGOT are set in stone and the books are unfinished. Any evidence from the books is doubtful in that light.

One last thing that sort of supports my theory. I ship Deckerstar from the Lucifer show and I like them really very much. But the thing is, I only ever was tempted to write a fic after season 3 finished and it was unclear if netflix would take over. Other than that I have always been so happy with the writing and how the ship develops that I am enjoying fan art and gif sets and everything but there is zero need to write "what ifs". Because the writing is just perfect at least for me and I don't need any other explorations.

Thanks for the ask!

[emetitur]

humble offerings of romione, dramione, and, uh, dron?

[itsyetanotherpotterhead]

What's your opinion on Dramione vs Romione?

Romione is really cute, both in the books and the movies. And the fanworks of them are amazing. I honestly think the quality of fanfiction/art/anything can influence my opinion on a ship.

Dramione was the reason I discovered this fandom in the first place, and even though I didn't know what it ment back then it was my first OTP. But I don't really like the ship anymore. I can see where it comes from, to be honest. 

I think it is pretty obvious, I like Romione more.

[fanfic-lover-girl]

[halfblood-princes-crown]

I was doing some reflecting and I’m noticing a lot of things in the Harry Potter fandom and one of them is the fact that we lack the proper communication we need to retain peace within the community as a whole.

This whole fandom is divided…Snape stans vs Marauders stans and Remadora vs Wolfstar and Romione vs Dramione…etc. etc. and each side tries to justify why their side is better or “right” (most of the points I make are geared towards the two groups I mostly see and interact with but I’m sure it could be used for the others as well)

This ofc causes conflict between people. This is where “evidence” starts being presented. When presenting evidence, one side always seems to forget certain things:

The movies aren’t canon

If JKR said it, then it’s canon…it’s her universe whether we like her or not

HCs are just that…headcaons

Fanfics aren’t canon

And when these things are brought up, there’s always an excuse or the arguments start shifting off topic. When debating with someone about something, make sure it’s canon. Another thing that happens is that people start stating things that are IMPLIED and while I personally believe that there’s nothing wrong with that, if you state that something is “implied” but in canon it’s debunked or canonically impossible/inaccurate, then there’s no leg to stand on when it comes to using it in a debate.

Another thing I noticed wrong with communication is pride. People don’t like to admit they’re wrong when the opposing side makes a valid argument or debunks something they said, but the minute your own side speaks up and admits the same thing the other side said, then it’s “yea I can see that” and “yea you’re probably right” and “ok yea that makes sense”. This is another reason why what could be friendly debates always turns into arguments, because it’s frustrating when you’re giving actual facts and the other person is saying it’s not true or start using HCs solely because it doesn’t fit their narratives or they have too much pride to admit they were wrong about this specific thing.

The next thing is moral righteousness and disrespect. This is one of the most disrespectful fandoms Ive been in…body shaming, victim blaming, harassment, death threats, assault minimizing, trauma reduction, comparing trauma, misogyny/sexism, offensive remarks…etc. etc. It’s gotta stop.

Disliking a character is fine but making fun of their physical traits is gross, especially considering people with those same physical traits are going to see your remark and possibly gain a new insecurity if it wasn’t one already…stop. You cannot hate a character for being a bully when you do the same thing.

Stop victim blaming…”well this character shouldn’t have done that” and “well maybe if they did this then that wouldn’t have happened” do these things sound familiar to you? That’s because they’re used in real life against victims of many things…stop. You can’t pretend to care about victims of any kind when you use arguments made specifically to be used against them.

Stop harassing people who have different opinions than you…if you wanna hop in an inbox and ask their opinions on something or why they like what they like then go for it, but to go as far as to go on someone else’s post or blog and start being disrespectful is as pathetic as it can get…the only reason you do it is because it makes you feel good because you think you’re better than whoever has an opposing opinion than you…you’re not…in fact that makes you lesser of a good person. Another thing is, when the person you’re harassing gets fed up and cusses you tf out, don’t play victim…You cannot hate a character for being a bully when you do the same thing. On this topic, when it comes to incorrectly tagged posts, I want us to start approaching it differently…instead of jumping into a fight, why don’t we ask questions…questions without being rude and sarcastic preferably…but I still don’t encourage incorrect tagging

Death threats…same thing…you pile of shit. We are talking about a fictional universe…go take a damn nap…You cannot hate a character for being a bully when you do the same thing.

Stop minimizing or praising assault. Idc if you hate the victim, idc if you love the character that committed it…stop. I shouldn’t have to explain why that’s bullshit but then again I shouldn’t have to explain a lot of the things I’m explaining.

Stop reducing a characters trauma to mere inconvenience or as an excuse for the character to act shitty…now with that being said…trauma can cause a person to act out in many different ways, especially a person who never got the help they needed…so using trauma to EXPLAIN a person’s behavior is different from using it to EXCUSE a person’s behavior…learn the difference. Just because you don’t like a character doesn’t mean you have to ignore or erase things they’ve been through.

Comparing…stop comparing trauma…that’s so dumb, not everyone responds to trauma the same way, so stop with the “well this character also went through that and they didn’t turn out like this other character” stfu…respectfully.

Misogyny/Sexism…bro…I’m looking at a very specific part of the fandom, I’m sure you know who you are..it’s not all of you..but it’s enough to be disturbing. You can hc a character to be gay without saying they’re physically repulsed by a woman’s anatomy. You can ship two male characters without shitting on the woman one of them is with in canon, especially given that she did nothing wrong, and by shitting on, I specifically mean calling them misogynistic names and stuff…calm down pls

Last but not least: offensive remarks…STOP COMPARING DEs TO N@ZIS…STOP COMPARING MUDBLOOD TO REAL LIFE SLURS….stop. This fandom has been asked to stop doing these things for years and you still do it. I don’t want to hear the excuse “well Rowling said DEs were“ idc…when a group collectively says “hey stop doing this, we find it offensive” there is no ifs, buts, or whats…you stop doing it…and while I’m on this topic I would like to say for the millionth time: Mudblood is not racist..it has nothing to do with race…it’s an attack on parentage and status…which is classism.

And I know people are going to (somehow) take this post negatively, and all I have to say about that is a hit dog is gonna holler…but I actually think if we take a minute to actually think about these things, this fandom would be a lot more pleasurable to be in. You don’t have to stop hating whatever characters you hate, but just because I like characters you don’t, doesn’t mean we have to be enemies.

[chaztalk]

Before I get into this, I’d like to provide some context.  The meme they are using is the one that I recently reblogged, basically depicting Romione and Dramione shippers are fighting about who “deserves” Hermione, meanwhile Harmony shippers (and other non-canon shippers) are in the background relaxing and indulging themselves in fanfics, not caring or partaking in the shipping wars.  Now, how I came up with this meme: first, Romione shippers are OBSESSED with Draco for some reason, so they compare the two (Ron and Draco) to show who’s better, which is just pathetic because Ron is 1000x a better person and I don’t need to write an essay to prove that; second, they actually write essays on Romione vs Dramione; and the Harmony and other non-canon shippers just no longer partake in the shipping wars anymore.

You acknowledge that I correctly tagged a post, and yet I’m still a hypocrite.  That surely makes sense.

I just want to not to things regarding the second paragraph: One, my reblog contained a pic of a Romione saying, “Ron deserves Hermione more than anyone else”; two, this person has stated that Hermione “deserves” better than Harry.  Your sarcasm/attempt to deflect isn’t going to work here.  

“Who did Hermione choose in the actual story”?  Uhhh, it’s kinda hard for her to choose if she’s not in control of her character.  The author is.  It’s kind of funny how, in the previous paragraph, you were talking about how Harmony shippers “shove their non-existent ship down others’ throats” and yet here you are now, attempting to do the same thing, but with Romione.  Also, if Harmony shippers are “cry babies”, what does that make canon shippers complaining about the existence of Harmony shippers?

.And this is a response to a comment I made on the post.  It’s outdated now, because I referenced how many favorites I got from it (48 then; 248 now).

Brian?  My name is Chaz, by the way.

Harmony shippers always trash Ron?  I don’t.  I literally made a post a couple days ago insisting that Harmony shippers should look how bad Romione is in Ron’s perspective.  I mean, there’s even Romione shippers that admit that Hermione’s abusive towards Ron.

Y’know, I recently made and posted a poll on here, asking what Harry Potter character they’d marry, and I added a 4th option (”None cuz none of them are real”).  I’m the only one that has voted for that option so far.  So, Hermione is far from being my “dream girl”.  And I’ve stated this several times on here that Hermione’s not my type (bushy hair, into politics, not being a sports buff, etc).

And all I will say about that last sentence is that it’s cringe and comes off as hating on short people.

If you think that RobSt is the best Harmony fanfic writer, then you know absolutely nothing about the Harmony fanfic fandom.  First of all, I wouldn’t consider him a Harmony shipper since he does not exclusively write Harmony.  Secondly, RobSt fics are pretty popular, but that does not mean the best.  That’s like saying the best ship in the HP fandom is Drarry because there are like 13 of their fics in the top 20 on Ao3.  Thirdly, most of his fics have Harry and Hermione end up pretty quickly, which isn’t my cup of tea.  And lastly, most of these fics are from 6-14 years ago.  Can canon shippers never move on from the past?

SweetShireen, Untold Harmony, ProphecyMarauder45, Emmy_Award_Writes, MADharmony, and ladylaughalot are all better Harmony writers.

That is all.

[jessmalia]

For the fandoms ask! Supernatural, Teen Wolf, Harry Potter, and Narnia

Supernatural

otp: aaaghhhgh no it's the age-old question of chestervelle vs. samruby again! have been feeling a lot more chestervelle recently so I'm picking them

favourite canon pairing: gonna put samruby over here, since even tho chestervelle is def canon sam and ruby actually actively "dated", and what I love about chestervelle is more what they could've become.

worst pairing ever: sam and amelia. truly the most boring plot line on the show. had to double check I got her name right too.

guilty pleasure pairing: none

a pairing you want to see more: chestervelle baby!!!

that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: don't really have one

favorite non-romantic pair: bobby + the boys. not a pair but fuck you. currently on season 10 so this might change who knows.

Got another ask with teen wolf in it, so I'm gonna answer it there instead <3

Harry Potter

otp: ron/hermione

favourite canon pairing: ron and hermione again

worst pairing ever: harry/hermione 🤢

guilty pleasure pairing: Idk, drarry still has a place in my heart after my draco malfoy obsession as a 13-year-old... kinda guilty about that.

a pairing you want to see more: can't get enough of romione honestly 😂 they are very under appreciated, but ron/romione content has started increasing lately

that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: dramione. they've got a pretty strong hate crowd tho.

favorite non-romantic pair: harry and ron. probably my number 1 favourite fictional friendship ever.

Narnia

otp: caspeter forever <3

favourite canon pairing: suspian is literally the only canon pairing and they're only canon in the movies lol 😂 I like them tho

worst pairing ever: caspian/lucy. it's self explanatory.

guilty pleasure pairing: I guess suspian??? Just cause so many people see susan as gay and I don't really see any others shipping them

a pairing you want to see more: CASPETER

that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no”: casmund I guess

favorite non-romantic pair: you think you can make me choose one sibling pair????? well I'm not gonna!!! the best part of the franchise by far is the relationship between all four siblings!!!!!!

[lunarfly]

Ok so I decided to finally post the promised: defending Romione (🥺💗💕💖💞💘) against Dr*mione (ಠಿ_ಠ) shippers.

So I've read a few posts about Dr*mione shippers, talking about why their ship is amazing (which had nothing to do with canon btw) and bashing Ron (for no reason) and I'm literally shaking out of anger.

Here are my thoughts:

1. "Ron is too dumb for hermione"

Stop- Just-

Stop.

RON IS NOT DUMB.

Yes, he might not be very interested in school subjects, but 👏 that 👏 doesn't 👏 mean 👏 he 👏 is 👏 dumb 👏.

He is actually very smart! He beat McGonagall's chess game, he is logical and quick-thinking. There's MANY examples of this that I won't name right now, but it's a canonical fact. Ron. Is. Not. Dumb.

And consider he was dumb. So? Would that stop Romione from happening? NO! Hermione didn't mind Ron not being smart. She was just upset that Ron was lazy and wouldn't study anything until the last minute. She wanted to get both Harry and Ron to study according to a schedule.

Is it clear? Intelligence doesn't determine love.

**And this is something that confuses me. This doesn't have anything to do with the point, but why does nobody realize that Harry isn't much smarter than Ron? Yes, he was better at DADA but that requires TALENT, not intelligence. And I'm pretty sure we all know that Ron is talented as well (hopefully everyone realizes that). Nobody uses the fact that Harry wasn't intelligent against Harmione, but everyone uses the fact that Ron wasn't intelligent against Romione. The double standards tear apart the fandom.

2. "Ron bought hermione perfume and Draco could get her something better."

Soooo, you're saying that just because Ron didn't have the money that Draco had means that Hermione didn't deserve Ron?

Wow, this just says a lot about you dr*mione shippers. You only care about the money that Draco has, not his personality. You don't like Ron because he's poor (and I know how FanFics give the "kind Draco" Ron's canon personality so the only "problem" with Ron is his looks and lack of money). And you don't see Hermione nor Ron the way they are. This "point" of yours is literally stating that Hermione should be a gold-digger and get Draco because he can get her the expensive presents that she deserves. Yikes.

3. "Draco can understand the emotional side of Hermione while Ron can't."

Wait

What?

WHERE DO YOU GET THIS IDEA FROM-

Draco is only EVER concerned about his own self, he is a NARCISSIST. He would NEVER care for someone (let alone Hermione) as purely and truly as he cared about himself. He didn't even care about Crabbe, Goyle, Pansy Parkinson etc. He was selfish. The only reason he could express his emotions was because he had to go through a lot since he realized that killing Dumbledore wasn't as easy as bullying Hermione. This would never ever work.

And even if Ron didn't understand her as much, he STILL comforted her. Take the beginning chapters of The Deathly Hallows as an example. You'll see.

4. "Ron is too immature."

I need help.

Of course Ron was immature when he was 11!! Yes, he acted immaturely many times, yes, he made many mistakes, but guess what? He changed! He changed for Hermione!! Draco didn't change at all, not for Hermione, nor for anyone else. He remained the same bratty bully.

If you could reread the books and read prisoner of azkaban vs deathly hallows, you will definitely see how much Ron has matured. He doesn't argue with Hermione anymore, he comforts her, he's there for her. Yes, he made a mistake but he was manipulated by the horcrux! We don't blame Ginny for what tom riddle's diary made her do, do we? So stop blaming Ron!

Anyways, I think if dr*mione shippers have read the books, they'll know what I'm talking about when I say Ron changed for Hermione. I honestly don't know how you could miss Ron's character arc.

5. "Ron would be jealous of the brilliant Hermione."

What?

If I remember correctly, the reason Draco bullied the trio was because he was jealous of them. His jealousy turned into a 7 year torture for the trio and now you're saying that Ron is the jealous one? Please.

But anyways, Ron has been jealous of Harry and has made a few mistakes. But there are reasons behind them and I can defend him for each of these with arguments other than "everyone makes mistakes" (cough cough* Draco stans* cough cough).

First of all, Ron has admitted being jealous of Harry's fame because he lives with 5 older brothers who outshine him. But that's not really a mistake because he never let it get in his way. There were only 2 situations in 7 years when he left Harry out of jealousy but I think these have different explainations.

No1 Ron left in goblet of fire. I think the real reason that Ron let his jealousy get in his way this time, was not only because Harry got to participate in the tournament which could bring him eternal glory, but more likely because he was disappointed that his own best friend didn't even tell him that he was entering and didn't even help him participate (which wasn't true, but Ron thought so back then).

No2 Ron left in deathly hallows. This one was 100% because of the horcrux and I think we should all accept this by now and stop hating on Ron for being affected by dark magic.

And just like that, Ron never let his jealousy get in his way of friendships. I can't think of a situation where Ron is jealous of the brilliant Hermione so if you remember, please let me know so I can argue against it. <3

6. "Ron and Hermione would break up and remain friends, it's easy to imagine because they didn't have a strong relationship."

This was actually said, someone actually said this-

I'm just going to say that Ron and Hermione are happily married to this day (which definitely proves that their relationship is strong) and give the dr*mione community a moment of silence.

7. "Ron didn't do anything for Hermione and was just a jerk."

Coming from a person who has read and reread the books multiple times, I can assure you that Ron did many things for Hermione.

Of course, he was immature at first, he was mean to her, but slowly he started seeing more of the good in Hermione and started changing for her.

And even when he was immature, he still cared about Hermione and would protect her no matter what.

Let's remember how many times rubbish Ron stood up for Hermione against the brilliant bully Draco. 🥰

Let's remember how cowardly Ronald faced his fears of spiders to help Hermione (and the rest of the school, just how jerkier can he get?). 🥰

Let's remember how ridiculous Ronniekins stood up for Hermione against sensational Snape and got himself into detention (oh yes, this is the book version of the movie moment where Ron agrees with Snape about Hermione being an 'insufferable know-it-all'). 🥰

Let's remember how rotten Ronny comforted Hermione when she was worried about Hagrid and Buckbeak (and he even let her hug him and cry on his shoulder, how rude). 🥰

Let's remember how revolting Ronald sacrificed himself to save Harry and Hermione in the chess game. 🥰

Let's remember how horrendous Ron attempted to hex Draco when he used a slur that was meant to offend Hermione. 🥰

Keep in mind that all of these were done when Ron was still immature and still argued a lot with Hermione.

And these aren't even all.

8. "Ron and Hermione have a loveless marriage."

What the-

I'm sorry, I'm trying to be respectful here but this is crap. And the fact that the person said they also had "proof" from the c*rsed ch*ld but didn't want to spoil it-

As much as I hate the c*rsed ch*ld, I can tell you that it did its job portraying Ron and Hermione's unconditional love. Even in alternative realities, where they didn't get married, they were still in love.

And why would you even think that Ron and Hermione would marry and have kids if they didn't love each other? I need explainations.

Next.

9. "Ron never listens to Hermione."

I'm sorry, what? I'm genuinely confused??

What do you even mean by this? Yeah, they used to argue a lot, and? Ron thinks Hermione is brilliant and wonderful and he follows her advice. I can't recall a moment where Ron won't listen to Hermione, doesn't agree with her and ruins her plans. Anyone else?

Since this one is a big mess and a confusion, I'll move on to the next one until someone explains the points and arguments.

10. "Draco could make Hermione laugh while Ron couldn't."

....

Do I really need to say anything for this one?

Ron was the funniest one from the trio, that's why Harry enjoyed his company so much! Don't you remember the line in goblet of fire where Harry thinks about how much he misses having Ron as his best friend, because without him there's less fun and less laughs? I do.

But what I don't remember is finding Draco's sense of humor funny. I'm sorry but his intellectual level is almost as low as Crabbe and Goyle's. His insults are none other than Potty and Weaselbee, he only got 3 O.W.L.s and all of his jokes were stupid and dumb and their only purpose was insulting people he was jealous of.

These fanfics have rotten people's brains...😬

Anyways, I'm going to stop here. I've delayed this post for very long and I'm so excited to finally post it!

I read a book on wattpad by a dr*mione shipper and it was nothing but a giant headache. That's where I got all of these statements from. Most of the garbage in the book revolved around Draco and Hermione being inseparable and getting over all obstacles (wth) and other stupid stuff like that which really annoyed me. The book was called "why we love dr*mione" and it was by Bittenwizard. You can read and enjoy! Trust me, you'll have lots of content to post about after that 🤠👍

*I always try to be respectful to all ships, but sometimes some of them really anger me because the ships are either toxic or the arguments are plain trash. I'm sorry if I offend anyone.

Thank you for reading this. If you're a dr*mione shipper, I hope I've convinced you to give up the ship or come up with better arguments for it.

If you're an anti-dramione I hope you enjoyed the post. I'll delight you with more anti-toxic-ships content. :)

Thank you once again! <3

[samesanegirl]

My Feelings About Dramione...

Sooo, I have seen Romione vs Dramione posts where fans fight to the death for their favourite ship. With the rising popularity of the Ron Weasley Defence Squad, people are now clearly seeing that Romione is the better ship of the two 

I have reblogged billions of posts that highlight the toxicity of Dramione and how Ron and Hermione are better suited to each other. However, I have never ever stated what I think of this matter.

So, I have always shipped Romione. I am not going to say how cute they are, or how well they compliment each other, because this won't do them justice. But I have never ever shipped a ship like this; they just tug at your heartstrings and you just want eternal happiness for both of them.

Back at the age of 11, I shipped Romione like crazy. But I was always curious with Dramione. This is because I had heaps of friends who hated Ron Weasley (I actually have no friends who actually ship Romione). Two of them shipped Dramione wholeheartedly. Thus, I dare say I was slightly brainwashed and started to read Dramione fan fiction.

Now looking back, I think what really drives the appeal of Dramione is the sex. Because holy Merlin, there was so much smut in fan art and fan fiction. This is because Draco Malfoy is perceived as extremely hot, while Ron wasn't due to his more shy personality. I have noticed that many Dramione shippers liked them because of their sexual tension and appeal rather than the emotional connection. So in other words, superficial. I get it, it is slightly alluring dating a hot rich teenager, who lives in a mansion, has a wealthy family and good taste in fashion. Many people focus on Hermione’s sexual awakening and their physical appearances. But at the end of the day, those fan fictions felt empty. I can’t remember a single Dramione fan fiction where both of them actually valued each other’s qualities.

In contrast, Romione fan fictions are full of soul and actually explore their romantic feelings towards each other. Sure, there may be licking and sucking here and there, but they are complimented by beautiful moments too (at least the well-written ones anyway). This is because Romione fans truly understand the journey that these two had to go through, and how much they cared for each other and what they valued in each other. Because if they were superficial, Ron would be focused on getting a beautiful Veela, and Hermione could have continued her relationship with the famous Viktor Krum. But that is not what they prioritise in a partner. 

But my biggest issue is that Dramione fans will glorify the smallest things about their ‘moments.’ One particular moment that stands out to me is when Hermione was being tortured at Malfoy Manor. It was said at one point that Draco ‘could not bare to look at her.’ WELL, OF FUCKING COURSE NOT, SHE WAS BEING FUCKING TORTURED BY A PSYCHOPATH. If I saw a random guy getting tortured, I would not look either.

They have written alternate universes, where Draco saves Hermione and say excuses how he could not have saved her from Bellatrix. Maybe they’re right, but he could have tried to spare her from the Cruciatus Curse at least. Not only that but there is someone who wrote a fan fiction where Draco took Hermione to his room and gave her another punishment. That is right, Draco rapes Hermione, and it is portrayed as romantic and emotional, as he could not think of a ‘softer punishment.’ This is glorified, despite that Hermione cried, did not give him consent and did not use protection.

But when Ron screams, cries, tries to aparate, slams the walls with his fists because he can’t rescue Hermione, what do Dramione fans say?:

You know why you see so many girls abused by their boyfriends in the media? Because they choose a bad boy (aka Draco) who is fucked in the head, racist and all around toxic instead of a selfless, funny and loyal man (aka Ron). And Dramione fans perpetuate this behaviour and glorification.

If you ship Dramione for the fun of it or because of the smut you find, go ahead, do your thing. But don't you dare call Romione toxic when Draco literally wished Hermione dead, and called her racial slurs in the Wizarding World.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk