#especially with andrew

[mass-angel-exodus]

I'm kinda confused bc after watching EP 3 of tcoaal when Andrew said, "Julia was crying because God is watching" (maybe bc I'm project onto her) I assumed Julia wanted sex but felt guilty during ir about it because "sex is sinful unless it's not to procreate", and if that's as the case,Andrew would be a terrible bf for not comforting her, but other ppl got to the conclusion he pressured her?? and either way is shitty, but just putting this thought here.

Yeah that really got to me.

In my opinion I think it's both. There's evidence to suggest that the place they live is pretty religious. The graves grandparents, especially the grandfather is super religious. another user pointed out ashley would occasionally watch religious programming on the tv, and if they aren't religious in that way there is an organized cult for summoning demons so yeah it's safe to say the people around them are to some extant probably religious.

Julia could have been bought up that way too. But my personal theory is that she never took it way too seriously until she dated Andrew. Andrew really wants sex. He's sexually confused by his sister and is trying to get rid of that sexual frustration through Julia both as a way to convince himself he doesn't want Ashley and also cause he just wants sex. Julia likes Andrew but Andrew only wants her for sex. Julia wants something real. She may have wanted to with hold sex cause she believed it's something you do when you're actually serious about dating someone. But of course Andrew being a manipulator would have tried to talk her into it. And she loves him so obviously she gives in. But like she's unsure and she tries using the god excuse to hopefully get him to feel guilt. Cause she feels a little guilty too. He doesn't. They have sex. She feels like shit but hey at least he's near her.

I wouldn't put it past Andrew to be sexually coercive. And julia seems like a door mat so he wouldn't need much effort to do that to her.

[tootiredtobenice]

me if being obsessed with older men was illegal

[chloesimaginationthings]

Do you guys fuck with the FNAF books?…

[bisexualchaosdemon]

"Minyards don't get any higher than rock bottom." Aaron said, but the Mackenzie-Minyards became doctors at the top of their respective fields and the Minyard-Jostens became household names after their first Olympics.

[sunriseabram]

I love all the twitter aus and eat them for breakfast but I know for a fact Andrew and Neil are dry ass texters like:

Andrew: dorm?

Neil: kev

Andrew: court

Neil: yes

Neil: @ shop

Andrew: ice cream

Neil: k

Neil: ?

Andrew: roof

[artofalyksandr]

“Thank you, you were amazing.”

Individual panels and old versions below the cut

Part of Redraw-tober 2024: week 4, technically challenging

I’ve redrawn this once before but I’ve been wanting to redraw that version for a while

Version 2: May 29, 2021

Original: April 30, 2020

[grooviestguru]

'hey Pinocchio. time to run. this one's for you' is an ICONIC line and i don't think about it nearly enough

[cowboylikeyouu]

when hozier said "[insert his entire discography]", bitch i felt that

[applestorms]

(tw for extensive discussions of dubiously consensual sexual situations, typical to canon. also spoilers for the decay route update)

honestly, one of the most interesting aspects of andrew's psyche that we get to see in the most recent decay route update to me is his nearly unending hesitancy about having sex with ashley, despite both his overwhelming desire to AND her incredibly blasé, Yeah Sure Let's Do It attitude in response to the question.

while the end of the burial route provides some key insight into ashley's point of view regarding this topic (e.g. if you go with the less enthusiastic/more teasing answer to andrew's question of "we're not like that, right? right??"), and the shots & such ending provides even more intrigue into her motivations, i think that decay presents two key reasons as to why andrew has continued to hold back for so long: his two core conflicting desires, and an inability to see ashley as her own full person. notably, both of these parts can easily be connected to his mother's childhood abuse and parentification of him as well.

with regards to the first point: andrew has two main overwhelming desires at the heart of his character that motivate most of his actions, which unfortunately for him are completely incompatible. andrew wants:

to be a normal, average person-- someone who can hold a steady, respectable job, fit in at the block party BBQs, and not attract any negative attention from the neighbors.

to fuck his sister.

to some degree, you could even read the distinction between the two main routes themselves (burial and decay) to be motivated by whether or not andrew can diffuse the tension between these two wants-- in burial, he gives up on his need to fit in with the rest of respectable society, presumably pushing him more towards the fucking-his-sister route; in decay, he struggles significantly to let go of this desire for normalcy, and the stress almost always breaks him. notably, in neither of these routes can he fully give up on the second desire-- really, his relationship with julia and the rest of his life up til the point that ep1 begins has been about him trying and failing to do so, so this makes sense.

(sidenote: i would also like to clarify that i think the Most key distinction between these two routes comes down to the decision you actually have to make to get one or the other-- namely, whether or not the siblings are able to trust one another. but anyways)

this focus on the first desire for normalcy is also interesting in that it seems to be one of the core desires that renee holds as well, as we see her so happily boast about during their interactions in ep2. honestly i could probably write a whole post about how much andrew (consciously or, more often, not) mimics his mother's behavior and takes on her standards and ideals, but the key point to pay attention to here is the fact that andrew has subsumed his mother's viewpoint in such a way that he is either not fully aware of or simply hasn't questioned in all that much depth yet.

we can also see this with the aforementioned parentifiication, which has really interesting consequences on how much andrew does (not) see ashley as her own autonomous person. pretty much every single childhood flashback we get in 3a shows the same terrible cycle:

andrew is told by renee that ashley is His responsibility -> ashley causes problems on purpose -> andrew takes the fall for her

frankly, we don't even really need that first step for andrew to fully internalize the idea that ashley's actions are His to take responsibility for. the horrible consequences of this are also quite obvious: not only is this pressure to take responsibility for someone else's actions an incredibly unfair burden to put on anyone, much less a kid, but it also continually pushes andrew to see ashley as something less than human, or as little more than an extension of himself rather than her own person.

the main conflict in decay really comes down to this conflicting desire between the two of them, where what both andrew and ashley want above all else is Complete and Utter control over the other-- andrew wanting control because he has again been groomed to see ashley as his full responsibility, and ashley wanting control to assuage her own insecurities and fears about being isolated and hated forever. the more sympathetic throughline underlying a lot of this is that what both of them seem to want is safety, to protect both themselves and each other from any and all situations outside of their control-- though, unfortunately, a lot of times those exact external situations are simply the other acting on this mirrored desire for control lol.

anyways, going back to the sex thing-- since andrew doesn't see ashley as her own person, since he sees her as incapable of taking responsibility for her own actions and therefore as someone who cannot make decisions for herself, due in large part to him automatically transferring this burden to himself, andrew also sees ashley's consent as essentially meaningless.

the more sympathetic reading here is that andrew does genuinely want ashley to be at least kinda into it as more than a manipulation tactic/transactional thing-- but i think it's also equally likely that andrew simply doesn't want to have to once again shoulder the full burden of Committing Incest on his own, and he doesn't trust ashley to ever be even capable of taking the fall for her own actions. the fact that andrew still ultimately sees ashley as Leyley and NEVER as Ashley Proper (as he himself recognizes at one point) really just reinforces this to me. he says it himself-- he practically raised this woman. and in this case, even above all others, ashley's actions are quite literally also his own. it all goes back to that initial mistrust, and he carries that resentment with him even after they get around to actually doing it. mutually dubious consent, truly in-fucking-deed.

[pip3dream]

imagine how heartbroken Matt must’ve been when he found out Neil was moving out and Aaron was moving into the dorm

[malacandrax]

So like what if there’s no Jack.

Partly fuelled by a group watch of titanic, partly ‘nobody has ever drawn this therefore I Must’. I think drawing this made me kind of fonder of the platonic relationship they have in canon, but it was fun! And I Do love a good may/december haha.

[andreilscat]

oh he sure does. just not for you

[tankuare]

I can’t with the Thea propaganda, let me hate her in peace

[palmettoshenanigans]

I'm wondering, with his reputation for sniper level precision aiming and his reputation for being able to take on four man at once and lose only due to police intervention

how many Exy players are grateful Andrew is just a goalie?

[atticuos]

Andrew having piercings is so right and real in my mind that every time I remember that it’s not canon it makes me pause.

But we know it’s not canon, bc if it was, then we’d have at least 15 paragraphs all about them and their placements and the way the light glints off them from Neil’s obsessed ass lmfao

[boltlightning]

when the dog bites, when the bee stings, when i'm feeling sad / i simply remember my favorite things, and then i don't feel so bad! THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965)