#gorr the godkiller

[shelbbswrites]

Christian Bale is fantastic as Gorr the God Butcher in Thor: Love and Thunder. I loved being scared by him the entire time. Though they're not entirely comparable, I found Bale’s Gorr as scary as I did Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin in Spider-Man in 2002 — and Spider-Man: No Way Home.

[randomlonelytorment]

My Mother when I express any emotion other than joy and she needs to ridicule me for my 'behaviour' rather than help me work through what's upsetting me and deal with it:

[lavenderheyys]

Gorr the God Butcher Gorr the God Slayer

(This is your sign to watch Velvet Goldmine starring Christian Bale in glitter and makeup)

[avelera]

Spoilers for "Thor Love and Thunder" but regarding Gorr's choice...

... to bring his own daughter back to life instead of, say, healing Jane I can't imagine of version of him doing so that would be in character?

Jane is enough of a god that when she dies, she disperses into golden light. For Gorr's final wish to be to give Thor, a god, his lover's health back by curing her disease or even (ignoring Thor) to give a godly woman her health back as his final act (when the option to save his own child is possible), would be an utter betrayal of everything he has stood for.

By refusing to continue fighting Gorr but instead deciding to spend his possibly final moments with Jane, Thor reminded Gorr of what really matters in life. He moved the needle from vengeance over the death of his daughter to reminding Gorr that with all the power of the universe at his disposal, he could instead remove the need for his own vengeance. But in my opinion, it would be hugely unrealistic for Gorr's revelation in that moment to move the needle all the way from vengeance to helping his enemy, another feckless god, at the expense of his own child.

The rules of how Eternity works as far as the limitations of the wish are vague. In theory, Gorr could have wished that nothing bad has ever happened ever or that he and Jane would both be cured and his daughter brought back. But even phrasing it like that I think reveals an implied limitation: there is no "and" possible. You get one (1) wish. He can't cure himself and bring back his daughter, he can't cure Jane and bring back his daughter.

I think Gorr makes the only choice that a loving parent can realistically make. In the absence of an "and" being possible in the wish, he wishes for his child's life at the expense of his own and certainly at the expense of his recent enemy's life.

In my opinion, by making the choice to save his daughter, Gorr does a correct thing. Maybe not the "right" thing because it's a moral quandary of an impossible situation that can only come up because this is a magical sci-fi story. (How many people does he save? How many people can he save? It doesn't matter because a magical wish to bring people back to life doesn't actually exist in the real world.)

Gorr isn't a good guy. We have no indication he was what we call a "hero" even before his daughter died. Our few in-text hints indicate he was a religious fanatic who only had doubts once his daughter died of privation in the desert and then he met his idiot god. There's nothing that occurs in his journey or after it to indicate he would ever make a selfless choice with that wish. Granted, it's hard to know the details of his personality because everything he does with the god-slaying sword is of dubious motivation since it's heavily implied he's mostly just a vessel for its will the entire film. Thor being able to push the needle from "vengeance" to "save your daughter with the wish" encapsulates the entire arc of morality we've seen from Gorr, there's no indication his moral compass has anything beyond those two directions.

From an in-text philosophical angle too, assuming the wish could only be for one thing to change, one person to be healed or brought back to life, IMO saving a child who died far too young, who died a refugee in the desert, is a worthy use of the wish. And it's the only one I can realistically see Gorr making. Assuming he'd go all the way to forgiving and saving his godly enemies is just a bridge too far. It would, IMO, show the hand of the author more than anything else. It would appease the audience who loves Jane but at the expense of the internal consistency of the character. It would be so obviously about saving Jane instead of doing what the character we've seen to that point would do. For Jane's salvation to be the outcome, presumably, we'd need Thor to have made the wish instead, which would only raise a hundred questions of why he didn't bring back everyone he's lost, or why only Jane. The Pandora's Box of questions of "why Thor made that wish" would be endless, whereas with Gorr's limited screen time there is no question, there's only one choice he could make.

From a Doylist angle too, to briefly switch gears, Natalie Portman was done with the MCU. She's been done for years but came back to make one film and do justice to her character who has been poorly written in every other iteration. She got an epic, memorable exit. I'm entirely at peace with it, personally, as a storyteller myself. And as a storyteller, there's just no way to expand the possibilities of the Eternity wish without inviting a thousand more in-universe questions of how best to use it. Heck, people are still scrapping about the Avengers undoing Thanos's snap and if they did the right thing by bringing everyone back but not, say, winding back the clock so it never happened or bringing back their non-snapped dead loved ones as well.

The minute you introduce universe-altering powers that can overcome death, you're playing with fire as a creator, a fire that risks undermining all the sacrifices and deaths in your story up to that point. Giving Gorr the wish, making it clear Gorr had only one possible wish he could make once he turns from vengeance but doesn't turn all the way towards global altruism or Christ-like forgiveness of his recent enemies, you allow the magic of the plot device to exist without undermining everything else.

I completely understand people who are sad about Jane. She's built up as a wonderful person in this film. She could do so much good as The Mighty Thor. That's important because we should feel the tragedy of her death. That's just good storytelling. But I personally would have let out a gasp of outrage in the theater if Gorr had picked her over his own daughter, for all the reasons listed above. Natalie Portman was never coming back for another film. There's a slim chance that any director besides Taika would have remembered to include her character in future iterations, much less done her any justice if we're going by the treatment of other MCU love interests. She was never going to headline her own franchise nor would the actress have wanted to. From a Watsonian and Doylist perspective, this was an excellent exit for her. It was dignified, emotional, memorable, and magical. To have spent the wish on her instead of an innocent child would have cheapened the entire narrative. At least, that's my take.

[walterkov]

When Hela stole his hammer... he went and built an axe which was forged in the heart of a dying star. And the same axe was used to cut off Thanos' head. 

[zatauzul]

Yall got one day cuz I'm impatient

[dddabandoned]

Christian Bale's performance as Gorr the God Butcher was SO GOOD that it felt out of place in the movie

[menfinelikewine]

What does Christian Bale love most about acting? “You get to obsess without people saying, “He needs to go in the loony bin"

[francis-writes]

Living with Gorr on Earth HCs

(AU where he lives because no one can stop me) i found this today in my note app. i actually wrote it some time ago and then completely forgot about it

I actually don't see him as a big city kind of person. He would prefer to live with his s/o and his daughter in the countryside, in a house with a garden. (Am I into cottagecore? Yes. But I am not projecting it into him, Gorr loves this lifestyle too, I can sense it with my cottagewhore-radar). You grow many vegetable, grain and fruit species from different planets (at the beginning you were unsure if this experiment would work but surprisingly most of the crops grew well on the Earth) so your farm is mostly self-sufficient, at least when it comes to food.

Another headcanon, not connected with relationship, but I am convinced that Gorr is a vegan or at least a vegetarian. He may slashed gods, but he would never hurt an innocent animal.

You came to terms with Thor and the rest of the group and you live in - almost - friendly relationship. But you rather don't have contact with gods and don't deal with them anymore. Gorr gave up on his plans of revenge; you had possibility of helping Avengers and fighting for good but without longer hesitation, you decided to leave this "warrior lifestyle" (but nobody knows whether forever or is it just a holiday) and enjoy living in peace for some time.

Gorr isn't from Earth so it may take him some time to get used to on this planet (it wasn't specified in the movie how looked planet he came from so I will just assume it was technologically advanced at the level of Asgard, just much-much-much poorer).

He appreciates some of the inventions that make life easier (washing machine, cars, tap water), he especially loves the fact that medicine is so well-advanced but most things are either overwhelming or annoying for him.

Despite the fact that he isn't interested in popculture himself, Gorr likes to watch your favourite movies or read your beloved books (it's even better if you read it to him).

Gorr is a very good and careful listener, he authentically pays attention to what you're talking to him and he tries to remember details about you. In general, he likes to talk with you, you spend a lot of time on conversation since the day you met. If you hate small talk (just like me😅), you finally found great company. Gorr doesn't understand aimless blabber neither and he likes to tell you about his life (you appreciate the fact that he trust you enough to share with you stories about his family and home; these are very cherished but at the same time painful memories for him), his home planet, but also about faith, ethics and the point of life.

One of the things he really enjoys on Earth, is a great diversity of music. He loves listening to different genres and discovering new artists. If you have nothing against it, he often takes your hand and dance with you in the kitchen or in the garden.

Despite trying to live in peace, Gorr would quickly engage in some form of activism. He's very sensitive to any signs of injustice and he's not gonna just sit back and do nothing when so many bad thing happens. He will do whatever he can… and honestly, you love him for that.

[enaelyork]

Divine Essence a Gorr x Reader fanfic -[Recap]

So, on their knees, in the face of despair, as the lights seemed to go out, they cried out.

Why are you forsake me ?

Nobody answered.

And darkness fell.

He decided to destroy them.

She chose to protect them.

When their lives are threatened by his blade, the Gods don't hesitate to send their shield.

Everything was simple, everything was going to work out.

The Gods can control everything, Isn't it ?

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This is my Gorr X F!Reader project. Actually work on it. Of course, because i'm me... It's a Ennemy to Lover for sure ! MATURE CONTENT - Please do not ask for tag if you're not +18

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[Chapter 1] [Chapter 2] [Chapter 3] [Chapter 4] [Chapter 5] [Chapter 6]

[milo-igidk]

I still can't believe they just...gave Thor a daughter.

Like I'm not saying it would've been a bad decision to have him meet a kid and form a bond with them but they just GAVE him a daughter. He didn't slowly grew fond of her and developed strong connections, no, he was just given a child to raise. What was he supposed to do? Say no? To the guy who can just kill all the gods right there and then?

I'm sorry but that relationship meant nothing to me. I don't even think their dynamic is even that great. I mean all we saw her do in the end of the movie when she was interacting with Thor was be a brat. There are so many ways to make a good found father-daughter relationship and this just isn't it imo

[toodles-me-doodles]

I saw no difference

[sharonccrter]

Now that phase 4 is officially over; can I just rant about the fact that they cast CHRISTIAN (freaking) BALE and wasted it. Love and Thunder was a dumpsterfire thanks to Taika Waititi. You actually had Christian Bale, and didn’t give him the fucking material. He was right there! Bale did best with the material he was given, but just imagine if Love and Thunder had a decent writer/director? What a waste man. 

[iftadwascool]

[diesvitae]

I want to call this a warm up before work but let’s be real, it’s just shitpost. Gorr two ways. (His movie design is growing on me)

[yaztheangel]

‘Protect her when I’m gone.’ 🦋