#hermitcraft fandom discourse

[automaticdata]

So, um.

I may be starting to get a weeeee bit annoyed with people on the r/Hermitcraft subreddit.

Like, when I made the meme that is still getting an insane amount of notes (holy crap thank you so much I am super flattered), it was understandable that people didn't know what it was in reference to. I went, "ah, probably should have linked Cleo's vid!" and lived and learned, you know?

But Cleo's video has been out for a week. It's only twenty minutes long, and the moment when they and Grian meet up is five minutes into the video.

And like. Grian seems to really want people to see his friends' videos? Like when Gem's snail arrived, he deliberately left that plot thread dangling to be answered in Gem's video. The guy has made an eight hour video showing off the other Hermits' bases. I also highly suspect that one reason Grian is one of the last people to upload collab videos he's in is because his higher subscriber count means his video will automatically racket up to the top of the recommended page, and he wants his friends' videos to get a head start on him.

So the fact that there's this significant amount of Grian fans who won't even watch five minutes of someone else's video to get an answer that Grian left hanging is ... it's just super disappointing, ngl.

And just. Don't even get me started on that "continuity error" comment. I actually had a pretty long response to that on reddit. TL;DR: it's not a continuity error because there's perfect continuity as long as you watch Cleo's video.

Grian does not have to fill in the gaps, that's not his responsibility, nor should it be. The point of a series like Hermitcraft is that you get multiple perspectives. If you're upset that one perspective doesn't show everything, then you shouldn't be watching SMPs.

[marzghost]

Ok so I know my two cents in the situation concerning skizz may not matter since I'm not trans but I still wanted to get this out there because if I'm being honest I hate how everything is going down right now. I am genderfluid so I can't say that him not saying trans rights didn't hurt a bit at the time but I got over it fairly quickly maybe because I feel like he's right in that he's shown that he supports the LGBTQ+ community time and time again by his actions or maybe because he'd worked so hard to create a place where people could be kind to each other and forget the harsh realities of our world and society. As much as we want our existence not to be "political" or "polarizing" the truth of the matter is that it is when it sure as fuck shouldn't be. I'm a hispanic afab genderfluid pansexual living in the USA south and the truth of the matter is that most 40+ year olds that support us don't even go as far to show their support like Skizz does. The fact that some of the fandom is calling to boycott him is just absolutely insane to me because why are you going to go out of your way to hurt someone who is a disabled ally, and yes he is disabled since he suffers from MS, and has expressed his fear over and over again about not making enough money for his family if he went full time content creator? He recently became a full-time content creator and just hit 200k subs on his main channel. You have a right to be mad, we all do, but to try and use tactics that are meant to be used on big time companies and such on someone like Skizzleman is absurd. By that logic Scar and other bigger more popular hermits should be boycotted because they love Disney and talk about Harry Potter. You can't pick and choose who you turn a blind eye too just because they're more popular or less known. If I'm not wrong Skizz lives in a red state so yeah he's a cis white male giving him more wiggle room than most but you guys have to realize he does have a family he has to protect and provide for. Skizz does not care what people think of him. He says this on multiple occasions but he sure as hell cares about his family and like it or not people have been killed for saying they support us.

As for the situation with his mods, we have to understand that those types of things take time. He's had those mods for a while with one being on his team for five years if I remember correctly, please correct me if I'm wrong, and can't be replaced overnight not to mention by now they're probably somewhat seen as friends. I don't think they've ever brought up their beliefs inside of streams or videos so maybe I'm crazy but I don't think that should be held against Skizz. He haired them to do a job and they did it pretty well despite their whack ass political beliefs. Yeah obviously he should fire them but damn give it a month or something don't go straight too killing the man before he can learn!

[conarcoin]

the concept of "lore" ruined discussion of mcrp because like. people use it to mean some kind of weird hybrid of plotline and worldbuilding but ONLY if the server is drama-focused otherwise it doesn't count i guess.

so you get people saying like. hermitcraft isn't a lore server. smplive isn't a lore server. sdmp isn't a lore server. and it's like yeah this is true because "lore server" is a meaningless slop category you guys made up. they very much have plotlines and worldbuilding though 💀

[riacte]

being a fan of false/ren/both atm is kinda weird and surreal in these times because you have to carefully tread around in your mind to avoid thinking about upsetting things (which consist of like 50% of the total stuff in your head) and you have to rewire your longtime neural pathways but it’s necessary and doable lol

[hermitcraftx]

some of you people cant get mad at me for not using duo names because some of your duo names are stupid (ESPECIALLY the ones involving gem. shiny duo ???? jade duo??? really?!?????? really ?????????) and arent widely used enough to warrant me using them. ill use jade duo when i'm dead

[staringamassivemistakeintheface]

Genuinely wondering at this point….

[pastara-cell]

In light of recent events with iskall85 (+stressmonster?) i’d like to take a moment to thank around 98% of the community. I know its rough, and some people are upset or curious, but the community is handling it wonderfully right now, and I’m extremely proud of everyone who is taking a step back and not harassing creators. Heres a list of things we, as a community, can do to help!

1. Please don’t harass any of the Ccs! By that, I mean Hermitcraft AND vault hunters. I know that you’ve heard it a billion times by now, but I do want to emphasise that they have said they cant say much now, and they’re probably taking it more rough than we are. We aren’t owed any information, even if we would like it, so harassing people will only make the situation worse.

2. Comfort your friends with iskall or stress introjects, irls, fictionkins, alters, etc. reminder that none of this is their fault, and they should NOT be harassed for living their lives as they are.

3. Keep speculation private, or to a minimum. Its human nature of course, to be curious, but discussing it in publicly is a BAD idea. Keep it to the dms, or if you’re going to speculate in your blogs, I recommend not maintaining iskall, and putting the discourse tag in so that people can filter it out.

4. Keep your fanarts and fanfictions up until the situation is clearer, or if you don’t want them up, send them to @pearleisuma to be archived. Just because someone did something does NOT mean that you need to delete anything you worked hard on, it just means be wary making things in the future, involving them, about it, until we get more information.

4. DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, Watch ANY commentary youtube channel videos about the situation. This is how false information spreads, and youtubers are going to look to make a quick buck off of anything they can use to blow up. Please only get your information from trusted sources, such as CC’s twitter pages, any videos released by Ccs/streams, or if iskall or stress make a statement themselves.

5. Dont jump to conclusions! Luckily, mumbo has tweeted out that the situation has nothing to do with minors. Jumping to conclusions will lead to misinformation, so do sit back and wait a bit before any assumptions or conclusions.

6. Take care of yourself. Its okay to be sad about them leaving, its okay to be sad that Iskall apparently did something, and its okay to be curious as to what it is about. As a fandom, try to lift eachother up and comfort eachother, rather than bring eachother down about the situation.

Keep being awesome hermitblr, and stay strong 🫶 we’ll get through this

[kiwinatorwaffles]

not to post "discourse" on main but why can't the mcyt fandom just be normal about the creators jokingly dragging their servermates or killing each other in game or, god forbid, having banter as friends.

why are we sending death threats to gem for killing people in the hardcore server about killing people? why are we bullying ren for having a fun roleplay arc as a king? why are we flaming mumbo for being jokingly mean to his dear friends? why are we shittalking iskall for lying to wels in the game about lying? why are we being rude to false for surviving in the game about surviving fair and square?

i thought we were over this dangerous paraosociality stuff. i know i'm talking mostly about hermitcraft but most of our favorite creators are grown ass people who know their boundaries with their friends. you're not going to get a medal for whiteknighting against their own friends, of which they specify MULTIPLE TIMES that it's all just for fun and games.

this shit is the reason why creators get wary about interacting with each other freely. if you want to get mad, get mad in private. don't maintag your rants. don't spread it around huge servers or on social media where the creators can see them. and definitely DO NOT FUCKING SHITTALK THEM IN A CREATOR'S PATREON DISCORD SERVER GENERAL CHAT. jesus christ i thought we were better than this. this is why half of the internet treats the mcyt fandom like untouchable piles of burning waste

[ivi-prism]

Full on honest question. What are you describing when you say “normal minecraft”?

Because if you mean “vanilla” minecraft. Aka. Not modded minecraft, then that would exclude some of the other series featured here like scicraft. In fact, some tweaks used in hermitcraft like costume models were deemed ‘too moddy’ by some fans so technically Hermitcraft is not accounted for?

or do you mean it in the sense of there is no roleplaying? because then that is inaccurate. Hermits distinctly act out plotlines and characters (even if its not as ‘intensive’ as other series) And even if they didn’t, there are series here that don’t involve roleplay like scicraft which is a technical server fully focused on redstone creations.

if its because Hermits do the more “typical” minecraft things like build and mine and craft and redstone then that also confuses me because all series here also do that to different degrees. Some may focus more on roleplay but that roleplay is probably linked to the mechanics of the game (unless you have purely rp server like yandere high school) and then you have other series like again scicraft that is a technical server entirely meant for the creation and experimentation of redstone farms and more.

and if its in the sense of ‘there isn’t “that type of fandom” for hermitcraft’ there very much is! There are fanartist and writers and there are analysis and shitposts about hermitcraft just as there are for empires, and qsmp, and the life series. Hermitcraft crossovers with DSMP were even a popular genre of fanworks some years ago.

So i am probably missing an angle here but hermitcraft seems very much like it belongs in the mcyt category. Specially because its players are youtubers… youtubers that are playing minecraft which is the whole meaning of “mcyt” which is short for “minecraft youtubers (and streamers)”

this site's response to minecraft smps (not just dsmp. i see yall do this shit to every single one) is literally like. "we want weird art in weird mediums just not that one that one is bad and evil and cringe". pissing your pants over a cube game lmfao

[hermitcraftx]

unpopular opinion i do not consider real life part of the actual series and i never will and when the new series comes and people draw cleo as part of the winners i will be gritting my teeth the entire time. cleo deserves to win in a better series than a one off virtual reality one RAHHHH

[blacktofade]

I am quite new to Tumblr and while I know that this isn't what you usually post you are one of the only rpf writers that I actively know of and you seem to know the community so I thought I would just ask you

But no pressure to answer if you don't want to

I am writing a nsfw fanfic of rpf Arizona Dads but it is reader insert and I have no clue how to tag these types of things on Tumblr. (Ex Twitter-User here 😬) especially since that recent discourse I am just afraid of tagging stuff incorrectly but since my blog is entirely new I don't think anyone would see this, if I don't tag it, right?

I'm just a little confused and thought I would ask, really hope you don't mind

Hello darling anon!!!! Welcome to Tumblr! I'm actually thrilled you reached out to me with this question cause I'm like a broody chicken where I want to tuck everyone under my feathers and keep them safe!

Tagging for MCYT fandoms has been a learning curve for me, so you're definitely not alone in your confusion. The advice I give is just from personal experience, so I welcome anyone reading this to offer corrections if need be!

Also, when I say maintag, I mean it's a tag on a new post you've created. Adding tags on something you reblog doesn't put that post in the tags for others to see, it's just for personal organization on your blog. (I've had people get mad at me for reblogging something with a "maintag" and honestly they can suck my dick to the base. That's not how Tumblr works.)

So, from what I can tell, if it's NSFW content, don't maintag "hermitcraft" or any CCs/characters. For example, if you're posting a fic about giving Tango the big time sloppy head he deserves, don't tag it with "tangotek". You should instead use a tagging system for your own blog. In this case, you could use the tag "t.angotek". It will stop the post appearing in Tango's maintag, but would be easy to navigate on your own blog.

RPF is a whole other can of worms, cause people don't like if you tag that with "hermitshipping". I tend to use "hermitshipping rpf", and I haven't been yelled at so far LOL

Ship tags are much harder when you get into multiple pairing territory. I think in your case, I might just be tempted to use an "arizona dad" tag. Maybe run a search and check what kind of content is in that tag first and decide if you want your post to show up there.

Then because it's reader insert fic, I'd use "reader fic" and/or "reader insert fic" tags.

Basically, sharing NSFW RPF content in this fandom is impossible in the maintags, so basically no one will see it, like you said. It really sucks. If you want it to be found, the trick is to make friends with The Perverts of the fandom, cause we all just reblog posts amongst ourselves lmfao

Start following RPF friendly blogs, cause we're a pretty small community but everyone is VERY friendly and willing to boost content.

[rat-rosemary]

Okay being a little sad

It's kinda heartbreaking that for as wonderful as the hermits themselves are, no fandom has felt as unsafe for me as a queer person as the hermitcraft fandom has

[hermitcraftx]

block the fucking tag you walnut what the fuck

I miss the old fandom so fucking bad bro. The main tag was not so overrun with hermitshipping because most people were reasonably uncomfortable with it. Must have been the rise of other SMPs that actually are story and roleplay driven that made people think hermitcraft was the same. Now everyone seems to have convinced themselves the hermits are only characters to be played with and the dehumanization is deeply unsettling. Does nobody else find it disturbing how common theres comments like "I forget these are 30 and 40 year olds with degrees and families"? But of course people will make any justification they need to keep up their own fun. People will also read this and think I just need to step out and thats fine, I've already found the broader fandom uninhabitable for ages. I just wish that maybe one day people would take their own step back and think a little harder about how they treat hermitcraft and the hermits.

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[blackstoneslab]

Pervitcraft (Hermit/Life Series Discord)

18+ only to join!

A server for adult fans of mcyt series Hermitcraft and the Life Series! We do have channels for other fandoms too!

I made this server so that everyone who wanted a server where you could talk about the more adult things in these fandoms without minors constantly being there could finally have it. It's here so you can be weird about it!

All shipping and nsfw are allowed, and there are designated channels for RPF. The server is active and with plenty of channels to explore for different content and also some for other fandoms too! Just respect each other and keep the discourse out of the server.

The main rule of fandom applies here; Your Kink is not My Kink and Thats Okay.

link to the discord in the replies!

[mcytblrconfessions]

I love how many of these confessions are from smaller smp fandoms I’ve never even heard of. Nature is healing dsmp/qsmp/hermitcraft discourse is dead to me <3

[daydreaminglifelesslove]

i mean im reminded (and checked the video to remember right) of him joining and being turned into a proper hermit of hermitopia after he invited scar to be the first to try after the other spooked him by the Join! machine he made in his season 9 episode 27/called hermitopia and him at the very end of the video exclaiming to himself and the audience on how sad but true the smushed smallness trait he made for the hermits who joined hermitopia was more to his in real life height. (which, it’s implied but he’s short) and how much he hates how in game the effect/mod it looks so wrong in f5. also i guess because he’s a chaos gremlin, pesky bird, creechur, who fools everyone by being a cute ‘smol’ person (or just two big long black lines for eyes, a simple cozy enough red sweater/jumper, waffle hair, can remind u of bread, seeing irl him with his cats) who is so compacted with so much unrelenting energy he flies everywhere like a bird and gets into places that intrigue him. maybe some extremely old perceptions and kept views too with all the coming years knowledge we have now on what season 6 (or more&in gen viewers who came from evo, after it was finished) grian was like. new and probably to himself in over his head and intimidated and overwhelmed and maybe a little shy. <- has started his season 6 playlist awhile ago, never seen it in full, watched like a good ten episodes with a estranged friend and stopped watching at least 6 partly because of it. knows a lot about it from the grapevine. and ig watching all videos of hermitcraft recap season 6-9 a year ago because me not having time to watch all 30+-min episodes and getting a fun summary from pixl and zloy. i know I’m sending this late and if I write the one i said in tags got deleted it will be late too but i wanted to say this and possibly w/e else because i couldn’t stop myself otherwise. got into a explaining long wordy defensive ‘apologist’ brainrot spiral over…my main guy who entertains me? idk explaining and defending and arguing can be fun or just the right or wrong idk switch of i can’t think of anything else to do but maybe do it if i can with trying to be kind and careful. idk.

anyway felt like writing something and reblogging it, late or not. it is pretty harmless accepted or liked or is a fine by most grian enjoyers headcanon. or sorta truth. i mean i usually don’t see him at all that short, I guess because i curated my space and don’t mind it. I do like the idea of parrot or allay or bee or baby chicken grian just existing. or being a devil on your shoulder. idk it’s part of his vibe tho there are people who make him buff (cause he can be quite strong, would be in character and irl) and tol enough. height differences are also nice, lanky tol mumbo and smol or short grian. etc etc. i mean because i hope and think and maybe know op understands my feelings and to bring them as examples, the dynamic and height differences of tol lanky etho and short bdubs, adding tol scar or taller than bdubs but shorter than scar cubfan or really any hermit taller than bdubs who tangles themselves into his magnetic charming sometimes cute when angy or flustered. Etc. yeah. Done for now very tired. My inbox, dms, reblogs, comments always open.

Also adding to all ypur anti-grianfanbase posts, everyone makes him uwu short---- like its SO ANNOYING. He's always about 2'1 and too uwu short to do anything

honestly this one is just harmless headcanon to me i agree that i dont really know WHY the general consensus seems to be that hes short but also thinking about him being too small to reach shelves makes me laugh