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penrose-quinn · 2 years
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Oh my god I got the job
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homeless202 · 6 months
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I’m new here and I absolutely love your type of blogs with analysis and meta and long texts~~
I was wondering—is Eunyung and Haejoon’s relationship the kind that could be interpreted as romantic?
first of all, welcome and ty! and sorry it took me so long to reply, i hope u're still around anon. now to answer ur question
i'll take this opportunity to share all my thoughts on the topic bc i have Many.
TLDR: it is possible to read it as romantic if you really want to, but it's not meant to (at least not as of right now in the story aka ch.224)
deep dive under the cut as to why
-> can Eunyung and Haejoon’s relationship be interpreted as romantic?
i like how you phrased that bc, the thing is, interpretation is very subjective. you're welcome and allowed to interpret things however you want, but in EY&HJ's case, i feel like you'd have to work a lil extra hard to get to that point.
-> is Eunyung and Haejoon’s relationship meant to be interpreted as romantic?
this one's easy bc no. objectively Not. the genre of No Home is drama and slice of life (and once upon a time, horror). even if they were to ever end up in a romantic relationship, that's not what the story is about.
when i ask myself what the author's intention is with this story, i'd say it's to (realistically) portray how a young person with trauma would navigate another young person's trauma. and showing how easy it is to unintentionally fuck it up for various reasons: lacking context as to what exactly said trauma is, generally not knowing how to navigate it, their own trauma getting in the way, lacking the necessary resources. take your pick.
think of it like "how should i carry someone else's baggage when i have my own to deal with?" while also keeping in mind they're kids; they often don't have enough experience to know how to help, and even when they know what the right thing to do is, they're not old enough to take (legal) action.
and especially, the most heart-breaking yet realistic thing, when you're just getting to know someone, you can't know everything about them. it's so easy to accidentally do or say sth that cuts or offends when it wasn't meant to. but when they've got their own issues, it's hard not to take it personally (eg. EY talking about HJ's parents without knowing his mom died not long ago in the beginning of the story).
-> what even is Eunyung and Haejoon’s relationship??
this one's so funny bc i have no idea how to answer and i'm convinced not even EY and HJ themselves would know how to answer. they're not really friends; they got off on the wrong foot and kept walking with two left feet way too much to call themselves friends. the things that pushed them together the most were the dorms (not anymore) and the same friend group (more or less since EY has multiple).
what fits them best i'd say is "the universe forced us together against our will and now we're stuck with one another altho we hate each other" (<- at least in the beginning) extended with the "misery loves company" sentiment. finding comfort in someone who gets it, even tho they only kinda get it but not really but it works out anyway except it doesn't <- THERE'S NO NAME FOR THAT *cry* they invented a new type of character dynamic smh (i've never read a pairing with so much (romantic) potential only to see them completely fuck up their chance so royally by the end of their interaction EVERY SINGLE TIME. like yeah, enemies to lovers whatever BUT NOT TO THAT LEVEL HOLY SHIT)
they've changed each other, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. they're compatible in the way they understand each other on a deeper level and incompatible in the way they don't.
...however...
this is how HJ thinks of EY: (and also what No Home is truly abt)
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and this is how EY feels about HJ after EY found out HJ used to steal as well (aka that HJ isn't perfect like the stuck up bitch EY thought he was at first):
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so...
<- -> EY's first impression of HJ was that he was looking down on him and sth like "does this guy have ulterior motives? or is he just that naive being so trusting?" until EY found out HJ wasn't that different from him. after that, EY started admiring HJ for still managing to achieve things in life despite the hardships he had to go through. the type of admiration that can easily (and sometimes does) slip into envy.
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since the beginning, EY has helped HJ (or at least tried to) without him knowing. sometimes it worked out, sometimes not. most times EY tried doing sth nice for HJ was (from EY's perspective) in return to HJ trying to help him or doing nice things for him (which, again, sometimes worked out, sometimes not). EY was just paying back a debt to "this stubborn naive guy who keeps getting into trouble and butting into his business. gotta look out for this idiot or he might get scammed." (<- eg. when EY offered to get HJ's money back from his uncle)
he doesn't do it for credit or friendship or out of obligation, he's just doing what he thinks is the right thing bc he doesn't want to owe anyone anything. he can't accept people just genuinely being kind, genuinely caring and genuinely wanting to help. but he's been learning and slowly coming to terms with it.
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<- -> HJ first wanted to try befriending EY despite not liking him bc, well, the guy did steal his wallet and stab him in their first interaction. after trying and failing at it multiple times, thanksgiving happened, and HJ started thinking of EY as his underclassman bc he realized EY's just a kid with issues and he should keep an eye on him (discretely bc EY hates pity).
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with time HJ has come to understand EY better by going after him whenever he ran off and slowly realized that EY does mean well and has his reasons (as fucked up as they might be sometimes). but his mentality abt EY is still "i gotta push him in the right direction cuz he's my underclassman and i unintentionally got attached to him (somehow??)" (also bc he knows EY already gave up on himself so he needs a lil help to find his way again. also also bc he knows EY is lowkey suicidal and he's scared it'll be his fault if sth happens) <- his care for EY comes from a protective/nurturing (/possibly maybe guilty) place which started when he realized EY was just a kid^^. in other words, HJ still bothers with EY out of a subconscious sense of responsibility/obligation in a way (a good way tho. or at least a way that gets better)
see, sth i struggle with is if HJ thinks he has to or wants to or thinks he should or can't just not help/care for EY. i can't exactly pinpoint where the sentiment is coming from. his face is too blank for me to read sometimes T_T
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to summarize: HJ is EY's goal, what EY wishes he could've been. and EY is HJ's 'responsibility' so to speak (bc 'burden' doesn't quite fit since HJ is there for EY willingly) -> EY has a positive opinion of HJ while HJ has a neutral opinion of EY (which is also gradually getting better)
note1: i think HJ's intention (maybe subconsciously) was to be to EY what HJ's upperclassman was to him. aka someone who's there when you need it and can help guide you. it would explain why HJ kept chasing after EY despite not really having a reason to and EY repeatedly rejecting HJ's care/help.
note2: i also believe the 'upper-under-classman' relationship dynamic fits them the best atm bc it also matches the way the story often singles EY out as he's the only second year (aka younger) of the 6 MCs.
-> Romance in No Home?
another thing i should mention is that No Home rarely leaves things open for interpretation. the deepest arguments EY&HJ had were always spelled out for us, to make us understand exactly what the problem was, and how there isn't a good guy and a bad guy. it's just two people with issuesTM.
from what we've seen in the story up to this point, i couldn't pick out a moment where i'd go "here! that's romantic! that's the moment they realized SomeThing!" yk
when it comes to romance specifically, i feel like a handful of opportunities were missed. there are scenes which could've easily been written trough a rosy lens but simply weren't.
exhibit A:
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HJ was speechless bc "wow this mf really is actively picking a fight with an authority figure. i gotta make sure things don't escalate" not bc "hoLY sHiT hE's PreTTy. all his fangirls are on to something". however, this only becomes more clear when you keep reading the next few chapters, so i understand how you could interpret it as the latter.
exhibit B:
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here they got so close and the moment was so deep bc "woaa he said he believes me. no one's said to me that before!". unfortunately, EY was panicking too much for it to mean something bc of the guilt he felt for HJ trusting someone so undeserving of trust like EY.
exhibit C:
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this is maybe the closest we got to romantic between these two. i think this might be the only (or at least first) ever deep interaction between them that didn't end in a fight or misunderstanding. is it meant to be romantic tho? -> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
-> what do i think?
first, full transparency: i went into reading this story fully expecting it to be a BL and for EY&HJ to end up together. but the more i kept on reading, the more i got the ick thinking about them being in a (romantic) relationship bc, at least from what we've seen so far in the story, their relationship would be so ToxicTM (which i personally don't enjoy reading).
as they are right now, i wouldn't want them to be together like that. like, honestly, you still can't really consider these two even friends; they just tolerate each other if the stars align correctly (altho, i'll admit, their relationship is gradually getting better!!). every big argument they had i thought "god, there's no coming back from that. i'd cut ties so quickly if was them wtf". i still don't know how they managed to keep on interacting, props to them ig.
there's a lot of unresolved issues between them. and a lot of resentment which would not bode well in a romantic relationship. the smallest argument would turn explosive and they'd be, at best, in an on&off type of relationship. they both have the power to break the other and neither would be afraid to use it. they have a lot of history together, which is not always pleasant, so if they ever were to go the romantic route, it would have to be a long way to go.
technically, i could see them in a romantic relationship if they both went to therapy first and talked out all the baggage they're carrying (both individual and shared). realistically tho, what i think will happen at the end of No Home is that either they never cross paths again after high school ends (which would absolutely break my heart Wanan pls don't), or they somehow (unintentionally) end up living together bc they both desperately needed a roommate to pay rent (which would be a hilarious fucking gag LMAO). just, HJ going to uni/work and EY doing his own thing (prolly an actor) while still cohabiting together; hanging out to watch a movie before bed <- (whether platonic or romantic being left up for interpretation)
<- -> in conclusion, from what we've seen up to this point, their relationship is mainly upper-under-classman; reluctant (maybe) friends who tolerate each other but also care (too) deeply. they've changed each other, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. in some ways they're compatible and in others they're not.
all this being said, their relationship is improving and romance between EY&HJ is not impossible, just rather unlikely imo. but, again, interpretation is subjective and u're welcome to read their relationship however you want.
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toxooz · 2 years
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aight gunna make a few more cowboy au doodles than imma have to save it for later cause not only do i Gotta get back to me comic but i aLSO just got an email for an offer to make a banner for Wheel Bitten that might possibly hopefully maybe one day be on the forefront of the Tapas website so im
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hana-no-seiiki · 10 months
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HONEY FATALIS DOESNT HAVE A PROPER STORY YET SO I WAS THINKING…
(changed the tag to #Honey Fatalis 🍯🔪 btw)
But like . . . Maid/Butler! Reader who’s literally trained by professionals spies and assassins to be the ultimate guard for an important official’s baby.
Actually loves their job ( I see you people who post about loving the maid outfit but hating the chores lol ) and is super passionate that it’s infectious. They got it down to a science. Never trusts anyone else with whatever concerns their master. They know which products to use and how to use. It’s just downright scary how they’re that meticulous.
Yan! Employer who ogles the reader whenever they do the laundry. Half because of how their ass looks whenever they bend down to use the washing machines (something the Employer refused to put on a higher placement ), and half cause holy shit why is there lab equipment strewn all over the place ? ? ? Are you wholeass formulating your own detergent in their house ? ? ? Why are you weighing the clothing ? ? ?
Yan! Senior Co-worker who at first looked down at you. Positive that Yan! Employer just hired you for your looks, considering the sluttier versions of uniforms they forced you to wear — is just in awe of how dedicated you are. They usually have to pick up the slack for the rest of the staff but here you are finished with everything before they could even wake up to get to work. Hang on a moment, do you even sleep?
Yan! Junior who was scared of their well-being due to having such a high profile master, just gets comforted and turned on when you slaughtered this intruder right in front of their eyes. The person’s blood splattering all over them. You offer to clean their clothes which they interpreted as you asking them to strip in front of you. Ever since then you two have been in quite inappropriate situations that Yan! Senior Co-worker had to witness.
Maid/Butler! Reader reveals that the reason they’re ultra hard working is cause they love children (breeding implications are definitely intentional).
Once Platonic Yan! Child Master had grown up they definitely take this as an advantage over their parent, Yan! Employer, and basically steals you away. The cutest cockblocker. Works everytime.
And finally Yan! Assassin/Hitman (same one from Hivemind Post) who’s definitely not a masochist. They just really want that huge co- BOUNTY. BOUNTY! STOP LOOKING AT THEM THAT WAY-
still going through concepts but i think having two maid mcs for the webtoon series would be a bit redundant so this’ll prolly be scrapped.
©️ hana.no.seiiki - yun | 2023
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sandflakedraws · 8 months
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YOU DID TOUCH OF SUNLIGHT HOLY SHIT I'M ABOUT TO CRY
i... i'm speechless; that was one 9f the first webcomics that changed my brain chemistry, it's stayed with me for years
Indeed I dids!!!
and bawww,,, i'm glad the story has been a good time for ya~
Despite it being a lil rushed with the original webtoon deadline, TToS very much has the flavor of storytelling that I'm striving for. I'm excited to get other works up n runnin'
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kaldurcalm · 3 months
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List 5 things that make you happy, then put this in the askbox for the last 10 people who reblogged something from you! get to know your mutuals and followers ♡
I'm gonna be real with you, these always seem to come at a time when I feel least equipped to answer the question.
On the bright side, I guess that means I get to recommend comics I like.
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This is so cute and sweet that I'm bouncing just thinking about it. Just. Look at them.
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Adorable. I love them. I love them so much. Thanks @moosopp-art!
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We're gonna take a hard left. For some reason, watching this teenager take on an improbable amount of attackers is so so satisfying. He's the opest of op characters. I love it.
He's also clueless about how to live a normal life and all he wants is for his grandpa and sister to be happy. He goes to deliver a lunch his sister made to a friend, finds out the friend is in trouble, drops the kawaii lunchbox on a nearby table and takes out an entire gang like it's nothing.
This is a light day for him.
The friend is also a gangster. They met because he was hired to attack a teenager and as soon as he engaged he was like, nope, this kid is out of my league, pull back. Now he goes and helps the kid's grandpa on a regular basis.
He's still a gangster he's just more of a found family business now.
3.
*chef's kiss* everyone is messy and the color palette changes often. The depictions of mental illness are extremely vibrant. Mal is doing her best and also a mess. The commenters affectionately refer to her main love interest as rat man. I love them.
4.
*vibrating excitedly* how do I describe this one
Neoma starts as like, perky magical girl protagonist. Surprise! We get to explore toxic family dynamics.
She meets a guy who figures out he also has spiritual abilities. He likes her and is down for exploring but is Very Concerned by her grandfather. As he should be.
It's one of those I can see spirits stories and it looks like we're going to be exploring why being perky all the time is bad for you actually. I love the art style and the character dynamics. Can't wait to see where this one goes.
5. @painted-bees and their Hi-Note universe. They also have a webtoon called Woven and I really wanna see that through to the end, but Hi-Note is a bit more relevant to my current age and life experiences. Adhd 🤝 autism bros. (Not platonic but also sort of platonic.)
It's just a good depiction of (mostly) two people going holy shit, no one has ever understood me in this way before. I love it. I love that. Cortez scares me a little but they seem interesting too. (Eldritch being. They don't show up as much because it's still in development.)
~::~
OK. Thank you. Smiling now. This was good.
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ystrike1 · 1 year
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Divorcing My Tyrant Husband - By Josara (8/10)
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I'm aware that this webtoon has a bad reputation, but I'm giving it a high rating anyway. I love the slow burn. The creeping horror of being trapped. The struggle and the hate too, even if all of those things have a comedic tone. This story does get pretty dark, and then the author throws in a yandere. Then, they make the guy you hate obsessive too. Darn. Guess I have to see what happens next.
Sadly, we all hate the love interest. He sucks super hard in the beginning, and it takes FOREVER for him to get...ok. don't crucify me. The guy is not a nice guy, but he's not boring. The worst thing a romance novel protagonist can be is boring.
He's not. Alexandros Castilla is NOT a boring sexy Emperor character. He is a ruler who only cares about keeping his nation prosperous. His wife, Robellia, loves him but he only married her to ally with her father. He takes in a concubine, who is the legendary holy White Lotus. He eventually replaces Robellia with that concubine. Even though Aisha is lazy compared to Robellia her image is better so he chooses her.
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Wait. Sorry I forgot some stuff. Aisha is lying about being the White Lotus. Alexandros is aware of this. HE is the White Lotus. He lets Aisha lie and pretend to be that holy figure, because her bullshit makes politics easier for him. Being the White Lotus involves alot of pomp and circumstance. If he's the White Lotus he has to deal with constant bargaining. If his WIFE is the White Lotus he can just say he's possessive and hide her, and avoid the annoying church in the process.
Are you starting to understand what kind of guy this is?
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Don't start thinking he's cool. He kills Robellia to do this. He locks her in a room. She doesn't receive any care and she basically dies of depression after being abandoned. This is after taking on alot of duties and bringing glory to the Imperial House, by the way. She wasn't a bad wife. She just wasn't the most convenient choice.
Brutal.
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We're in a romance novel by the way. One of the really toxic ones where cheating on your wife is always a good thing. New Robellia knows she will be killed, so she says fuck it. She demands a divorce day one, and she starts causing havoc. She bullies Aisha, and fuck it she enjoys it. Aisha is a bitch who does no work, and her whole cute persona is a lie. Robellia treats her like mud to force the Emperor to divorce her. Like...he didn't have to kill her off. He could have just accepted the mild inconvenience that is divorcing her. Robellia refuses to stand down. She even calls the Emperor out for his fake flirting. She says everything he says is fake, and she also slaps him.
It's very silly but fun at first.
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Aisha is a problem for many, many reasons. She's annoying and good at manipulating people. She also seems to think she's the main character. She is also a reincarnated Korean woman. She doesn't understand why the Emperor doesn't love her yet. She can also see that his sweet words are entirely fake.
Here's...the twist.
The romance novel was never romantic. Sure, it was sold as a romance but in the actual story is just a lie. Lies on lies. Aisha thinks she will be loved above all else, but the Emperor is just using her, the same way he used Robellia. She goes completely crazy because she can't accept that but yeah...nice plot twist. Too bad the lead of your romance novel was only "performing romance" this whole time.
Nobody actually acts like that lol and obviously a cheater can never be a romantic.
It's kinda sorta a good lesson.
Anyway.
Robellia thinks he's shit and she wants out.
Aisha will never give up, because she wants her ideal romance and unlimited power at the same time.
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Alexandros starts to observe Robellia, and it becomes stalking. I didn't notice for a couple chapters, because in the beginning it's just spying. Soon he realizes that a competent Empress is better than a puppet. Robellia also has a secret sweet side, that she never shows him. It makes him want to earn her trust back...but he is not good at romance. His super fake stuff is hollow as wood, and apparently the way he shows affection is stalking...and expensive gifts. Robellia throws away his gifts, and eventually they duke it out politically. Which just...makes him acknowledge her skill even more...uh oh...
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This is the yandere. His name is Caleb and he's a young slave. He has a lame leg. Robellia buys him with a bunch of other slaves. She is desperately trying to look bad. That's the whole reason why she buys the slaves, but then she gives them jobs in the castle. Which gives her more power, and also Caleb has magic.
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Caleb was supposed to have a crush on Aisha, but Robellia finds him when he's a kid. That completely ruins Aisha's chances of winning. Robellia is happy about that, and she decides to make Caleb her knight. He honestly tells her about his magic, and she does need his support.
Alexandros is actually powerful. Robellia is trapped in the castle unless he lets her go.
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Caleb swears to be her slave forever. He kisses her foot. Robellia knows he was a dark character in the books, but she thinks that future will change. She intends to give him a better life. She tells him to stop the foot kissing and make some friends. Caleb immediately lies and says he doesn't want to go to magic school. He says he's been bullied too much, and he's scared of kids his age.
A total lie.
He just wants to be with Robellia all the time.
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Fortunately for Robellia Caleb is already a killing machine, who was using his weak-disabled-slave boy act to stay unnoticed. He's very useful, but he hides that from her to get closer to her.
Alexandros immediately becomes jealous of Caleb, even though he's a literal child. He wants to be with Robellia all the time, like a Knight. He sends even more spies and from that point on Robellia is wrapped in obsession. Her every move is watched. Caleb is a classic yandere, but I think Alexandros has appeal...for some people. Alexandros isn't an emotionally repressed sad boy. He's a smart and ruthless person who doesn't compromise. His obsession with Robellia disturbs even him, and he has already admitted that he will drag her back if she leaves.
Is he charming?
No, but the layers of lies are great.
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reveluving · 2 years
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GASP…. batmom obsessing (drooling) over bruce’s muscles MMMMM like dude his biceps. HIS BACK. DRIVES ME INSANE (makes me horny)
oh HELL YEAH- listen... idc if you're into Bale, Affleck, Pattinson or hell, even the from Webtoon, Bruce's muscles are a GODSEND so I'm going nasty on this one~ Thanks anon! ❤
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warning: smut (minors DNI! we a lil' nasty today)
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If there was one thing you love more than your husband, it would be his muscles because holy shit. The public may figure out that he was nowhere near scrawny, but they didn’t know how truly muscular he was. Very often would the press find you hugging his arm whenever the two of you are in public. Many call it cute, others called you possessive and whatever the case may be, it doesn’t matter. Because at the end of the day, he’s your Greek God of a man.
Whether he's waking up, getting ready for work or patrols, walking around the manor with no shirt, the second his shirt is off, your eyes are open. You cannot afford to miss any beauty, even if he sometimes wished for the scars he's accumulated to go away. You will always love every inch of him, inside and out.
But cheesy stuff aside, back to those muscles!
Other than for crimefighting, Bruce makes sure he stays in shape because of your obsession with his muscles. You've warned him a couple of times about overdoing it, though. You didn't want to be responsible for his injuries just because he was trying to impress you than he already has.
Still, that wouldn't stop him from either bench pressing you or making you sit on his back while he does push-ups.
Or if you're adamant on not being his little gym partner, he's still going to pick you up bridal style.
A lot.
'Cause even he has his own favourite about his muscles; having your hands all over it. You could come up to him behind after he's showered, tracing your fingers over his biceps with a 'oooh'. He finds amusement to see you awestruck, as if you don't wake up to it everyday. Showing your sultry side is also his aim. Having the power to bring out your frisky side when you feel him up.
With that being said, missionary and being on top of him would be your go-to if you want to see him in all his glory. Being underneath him would mean his big arms bracketing your head. Easily hovering you like it's his workout routine. He'll want those pretty fingernails digging into his back for when he fucks you at a relentless pace.
As for being on top of him, it can go two ways. You'd have to hold yourself up with his chest if you're riding cowgirl. That neck and Adam's apple of his will be your lick-and-nip victim.
But shit, who are you to deny yours or his wish to ride his abs, too? Seeing them soaked in your juices would be an instant turn on, even if he just came.
I might sound like the kinkiest bitch alive (but what's new) but if you lick your juices up, all while maintaining eye contact, do expect another round.
Overstimulation has entered the chat.
Or if he's sitting up, it's definitely not a lost cause either! Being able to see this man flush as he looks up at you in ecstacy, reminding you that you're his one and only and vice versa. Best believe those thighs of his are going to do work when you're too far into the pleasure. Bucking up his hips and easily finding the one spot that makes you scream.
Full offence but he'll definitely make you ride his thigh in the office. Jacket off, top half of his buttons popped open to give you a glimpse of the sweat dripping down his neck and chest.
Tell me I'm wrong.
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Got so many amazing asks from y'all so I might have to close our lil' session for a little bit to catch up! But it won't be our last, I promise! Remaining asks coming soon, can't wait to share it with y'all! ❤ (divider by @firefly-graphics)
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obstinaterixatrix · 1 year
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Soyoung is devastated when her favorite musical actor is swallowed up by the world of TV. Just after she quits supporting him, she discovers charismatic actress Jaeyi in a theater performance of "Macbeth" and becomes a fan at first sight. By meeting Jaeyi after her shows and even doing her a favor, Soyoung goes from a mere fan to her good friend. But when Jaeyi has to work with celebrity actress Hyesun, who she has a troubled past with, it unexpectedly sours their friendship. All Soyoung wanted was to support her favorite actress… so why does this new development bother her so much?
happy femslash february, here's a 50 episode webtoon about a theater fan and an actress. this one's one of my favorite because the actress and the fan start out with. COMPLETELY different understandings of their relationship. the actress is coming from the perspective of: man I am just some guy who's barely getting jobs. but the fan (who is a Very Experienced Theater Fan) is coming at this from the perspective of: OH MY GOD??? OH MY GOD???? HOLY SHIT???? THE TALENT???? THE CHARISMA???? SHE'S EVERYTHING?????? I HAVE TO MAKE SURE NOT TO BE WEIRD ABOUT THIS I HAVE TO MAINTAIN A RESPECTFUL PROFESSIONAL DISTANCE wait why are we eating at a cafe together. I really like the theater fan, she's a very normal office lady but also kind of unhinged. anyway, they get together a little over midway through the series, so it's nice to see some of how they navigate a new relationship.
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beesmygod · 2 years
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look: the only arguments in favor of webtoons ive ever heard hinge greatly on the idea that the vastness of the audience on webtoons is crucial to one’s success in the “webcomic business” nowadays. people need money to live. to make money quickly in the entertainment business (and i would like to stress that this is the first time the artist makes a choice: when they decide to pursue art as a career. deciding to do this is not a choice that should be made lightly. additionally, i do not believe that people are being forced to turn to webcomics in order to make a living lol. can you even imagine), they turn toward the algorithmically curated and inflated numbers offered by webtoons.
i’ll start this off with my bone fides so i have to clarify any of this in follow up posts: i started workshopping my webcomic on tumblr in 2012 with doodles and by answering asks people would send me. i would also just post lore dumps for funsies. they are so barely related to the comic now, but they created interest and people asked me cool questions that made me think about the world i was creating. i started the comic in 2013. holy shit i really am coming up on a decade of webcomics. hold on i have to stand up and walk around for a second. picture to break up all these words so your eyes dont slide off the page:
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i made enough money on patreon (as a very early adopter) to live in beaverton, oregon (with first 3, then 1 other roommate[s]) living the most spartan lifestyle a person could manage in order to avoid having to go back to my hometown. now i live in confusing moderate comfort in a house my bf and i bought in a burst of sheer market based luck right before everything exploded. we used all of my savings i earned working from age 15-30 as a down payment.
i still try to take care of myself entirely and contribute a proportional amt of my income to the bills. i use government aid and use(d) it get a lot of medical help that i would not have been able to afford otherwise (medicare for all btw its unconscionable that this isnt the norm). i sincerely enjoyed my poverty and i felt like i understood how to live under those parameters with ease and comfort. i was poor but i was free. i do not like that i have to disclose this in order for people not to immediately dismiss me as coming from a place of monetary privilege. this shit is none of your business. im not interested being assigned a perception to my work and character that does not come from my words and deeds. i do not want “poverty artist” to be the signifier attached to me, forever, that people can scrutinize and obsess over whether or not i deserve the adjective i dislike.
but for things i do like: i like my audience very much, and i hope that they understand that they are under no obligation to care for me, keep me alive, finance me, etc. that is entirely my responsibility. but it is through their continued donations and support that i am able to draw my comic full time in a lifestyle i found comfortable, something that i sincerely imagined would not be possible while i was still working and in college. my audience of ~1.5k (i think, google analytics is kinda whack. lotta bots. this is with all that shit i could find filtered out) has been built up gradually over the past near decade and is comprised of funny, lighthearted freaks of nature who make me laugh very frequently. i just cant let them know that or they will become too powerful and use jokes to destroy me. i dont think i have a single bad thing to say about AGS readers. you guys are a hoot lol.
i do not have a discord dedicated to my work because i find the idea pretty unappealing and have had moderator experience in the past on other websites that i did not enjoy. i did not have comments on my comic until this year. previously the only way to contact me was via twitter, tumblr ask or email. i advertise my comic twice on update days, once in the morning and once at night, so i dont flood dashboards. i do not sign up for zines or jobs. i do not promote my work otherwise. well, there’s a link in my sa avatar, but let’s be real. no one’s clicking that.
WITH ALL THAT SAID:
i cannot empathize with the people who pursue the webtoons line of monetization and i find parts of (what must be) their reasoning morally abhorrent. im not even going to get into the predatory and laughable “pay per page” concept, an idea so blatantly evil that if it were pitched in any other medium it would get you laughed out of the room at best. im not going to talk about the ridiculous audacity of a comic host demanding you produce a minimum number of panels “per page” (im old lol bear with me) in order to be granted the golden laurels of “publication” (another choice the artist makes is the choice to pursue becoming a “webtoons original” as a financial goal. i think this is wildly unreasonable for every reason. but whatever. you might as well bet on winning the lottery). im going to talk about the bizarre mentality i cannot wrap my head around when it comes to what people are expecting when they sign up for a website that openly flaunts how disinterested it is in anything other wringing its user base financially dry.
if webtoons is not interested in anything other than financial gain and their purpose is to make more money every quarter at any cost, then why would that mentality not directly impact and poison the relationship between you and your audience, as well as your relationship with your art?
but lets put even THAT aside. god there’s so much i could hammer on. i will just focus on audience right now.
1. the quantity of an audience is not proportional to the quality of the audience. i dont think anyone is going to debate with me that the webtoons audience is good lol. this is because the webtoons userbase is comprised almost entirely of random teenagers and adults under 25. this age range is permitted to act like insane hooligans (to an extent) because that’s what the vast majority of us were like in some capacity or another at that age. i frequently hear complaints from creators about how their webtoons audience are frequently ungrateful, irrational, and impatient to them. this is the obvious outcome when two parties, especially parties that are doing business with each other, are shoved together due to algorithmic decisions and not by their own volition. both parties have been robbed of the opportunity of building up a relationship of trust and respect between the artist and the audience. however, building up this relationship takes time. and people want to be be making money as artists right now. presumably.
2. the primary purpose of an audience is not to obtain money from them. at least, dear god, i really hope this is not the idea driving people’s desire to do webcomics as a career. the creators entering the field with this mindset are DOA, straight up. even if you were capable of hiding your odious motivations, whose money are you willing to pursue? would you change your comic if it meant making more money from the audience? do the highest bidders influence the artistic choices being made? is that the relationship you want with your audience? in that case, why not just take furry porn commissions, a field which makes fucking stacks upon stacks of cash? why bother with webcomics and all this extra work?
3. why would an audience of teens and young adults have money to spare? lol for real tho. teens dont often have unfettered access to cash. college age adults are famously deeply in debt to the nightmare state we live in. to jump into this audience with your hands held open is going to result in disappointment when they’ve already prioritized giving what little they have to artists they already know. i dont know what people are expecting with this one. it’s like panning for gold in a swimming pool.
this doesnt even touch on the uglier stuff. but the choice to go all in with webtoon is foolish, selfish, motivated by greed and childish false promises of fame. i do not have any respect for the artists that line up in the hopes that they can simply “jump the line” and skip one of the most, if not the single most, important aspects of a career in art, as though it’s a tutorial mission they are simply too advanced and skilled to sit through. i am not going to feel bad for or comfort the people who saw a company strangling and smothering everything it touches, a company that is subjecting its customers into increasingly more incremental means of payment, a company that has objectively unreasonable demands for the art they host compared to what they pay out, AND WILLINGLY SIGNED ON TO SECURE THEIR OWN BAG.
so that they didnt have to build an audience! the fuck!
my assessment is that to use webtoons is to have a vast amount of disrespect for your audience.
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Lenora you’re back!!!!!💕💞💕💞
How have you been?
Heyyyy✨🌞
I’ve been doing pretty great honestly. I got through my finals and I actually did quite well :)). I didn’t take the biology exam though because holy fuck I can’t even do simple math and we were supposed to do crazy equations, no calculators allowed💀. So yeah, didn’t study at all and woke up in a cold sweat like three days before the exam and quickly set myself on inactive because I would’ve definitely fucking flunked it. But English went great, got one of the best grades out of the entire course for my presentation I was sweating buckets over beforehand, linguistics went well as well and the rest was just pass or fail and fortunately I passed but I’m still waiting on a feedback for my pedagogy portfolio. Speaking of waiting, I spent weeks in February working on my art portfolio and applied for art school and I’m waiting for a response to that, too.
I also finally read “The song of Achilles” but it sadly didn’t earn its place next to my favorites, like, it was actually only three stars for me if I’m really honest. Currently I’m reading “Persuasion” (I’m about half way through) and that books actually pretty great but the first like 80 pages are just like, set up lmao. But after that it quickly gets better!!! I haven’t continued reading in a couple of days though which I should absolutely do soon because the new semester starts in two weeks and then idk how much time I’ll have to read. I’m actually taking British and American literature classes in the new semester which I’m pretty excited about!!!!
Oh boy, I also finally watched s5 of Miraculous and the alternate universe Paris special and the movie and bro, s5 was an absolute dumpster fire…. Actually fucking insane. But the Paris special was kinda entertaining lol, and I can’t lie…. the movie was pretty good. Like… it was honestly great hahahah. I also watched Cars btw! I have watched the first part before but never the rest and then my sister wanted to watch Cars so we did and yeah, Cars is amazing ofc. I also finally watched But I’m a Cheerleader which was all over the okays but it was funny and I loved the ending. I’m trying to remember what else I watched but I don’t remember anything else… hmmm… Oh!! Omg, I watched Christopher Robin and I didn’t not except that movie to be as good as it was. I was in genuine tears over fucking everything and yeah, very enjoyable. I also watched The Sixth Sense which was good, did not see the plot twist coming though, Like, spoiler! I literally remember thinking “oh.. so he survived I guess” when it says “next fall” like a fucking idiot 😭. I don’t think I watched any other movies though.
Wait, I also read the entirety of Jackson’s diary on webtoon and it was a fucking roller coaster.
Other than that I’ve been hanging a lot with my friends, especially those who moved to another city for university. There’s this café we always and in the past two weeks we’ve gone three times and you can borough games to play and we usually play scrabble which is always sm fun!
Oh and holy shit, I turned fucking 20!?!?! Absolutely batshit insane, I cannot believe it.
Also, I just kinda left tumblr very like, impulsively because I had finals coming up and thought it’d be distracting, but also, tumblr tends to suck the life out of me sometimes so I thought taking a break would be worth it either way. After finals where over I then had to work on my art portfolio and I have a huge procrastination problem so I stayed off tumblr because I knew it would make it worse and so I just left and didn’t reply to anyone, which, I’m sorry, I missed you and the other mutuals so much but I also don’t think that many people even noticed that I took a break in the first place. Anyway,I’ll probably dip when Uni starts again as well but I thought it’d be nice to catch up with y’all before that happens.
How have you been doing :))💓💗💓💗💓
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mademoiselle-cookie · 20 days
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Let's talk about « The Princess's Jewels »
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I saw a lot of people (rightfully) criticizing "The Princess's Jewels" but at no point did I see people WHY the young girls who read it love it (far too ready to insult them).
Do people really wonder why some people are able to look past the heroine's flaws?
She is not a shy and fragile little thing who allows herself to be mistreated and erased by the male characters. She knows what she wants and does everything to get it, she assumes her sexual desires without any shame, she is strong enough to beat the shit out of all her opponents while still being feminine...
Conversely, in how many fictions have you seen useless and/or weak female characters, completely overshadowed by the guys? Can we talk about Ochako, who, since realizing her feelings for Deku, sees her character revolve solely around him? About Sakura, the example of useless female characters? About the thousands of works where women are harassed or even sexually assaulted without it being questioned?
For once, it's a fiction where it's the girl who has the power. She is the one who uses, possesses and surpasses the male characters. For once, it's the men who are reduced to the status of objects and used to make women shine.
Even in reverse harems, men are not entitled to the same treatment as women in classic harems. I haven't read many, but I don't remember any panty shots about little boys or arguments about who has the biggest (boobs) dick. They're generally treated with a lot more respect and not just as boobs with legs (or in this case, abs with legs).
And it’s not just a story of “revenge” (big quotation mark, I don't have a better word). It is also (mostly?) a question of identification. Girls know that they are not potted plants, uninteresting holy of holies destined to have their lives revolved around a man.
In this webtoon, the heroine has desires without being demonized, she is manipulative and intelligent and is celebrated for that, she's physically strong and can talk a good game instead of being a dullard who can't put her feet up...
The representation problem can be very effective in hiding problems in a work. Some even use it intentionally, in order to have a fan base in desperate need of representation, and to be able to call the critics haters *cough* Little Mermaid live-action *cough* (not to say that haters will not indeed come after representation of minority).
A quick thought about this comment from a black reader who was so thrilled to see a black character in an important and positive position. The character in question is owned by a white woman and is the only one of the "Jewel" group to wear a dog collar (he is also a werewolf. The only werewolves depicted are members of his family, also black. No black people exist outside of this family).
So for those complaining that no one criticizes this webtoon, two things:
not true, people criticize it. I discovered its existence because of the numerous videos criticizing it on YouTube. Even in the comments, readers pointed out the flaws in the writing or the horrible behavior of the heroine (even in the advanced chapters where everyone who didn't like it has already left). Here an exemple
If more people criticize Redo of Healer, it may be because a manga popular enough to have an anime adaptation, thus making it even more famous, attracts more people likely to criticize it than a not very popular webtoon. known.
Of course, this does not prevent us from criticizing this work.
This obviously does not prevent the heroine from being a daddy's girl Mary-Sue, selfish, self-centered, hypocritical, fatphobic who has no respect for her poor fiancé and who succeeds in everything because she "is so beautiful” and that she “smells good” (no joke).
This does not prevent his half-brother (supposedly a villain), despised for no reason by his father, physically and psychologically abused by his mother, who is absolutely right about the MC and who does not get everything by snapping his fingers unlike her, is a character a thousand times more appreciable (the fiancé too).
But when you're an adult, you don't insult teenage girls for liking poor quality works.
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ghost-the-silly · 3 months
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Ghost Intro, what
Hello!
Name: Ghost_Bean/Ghost
Age: Minor. I don't want any creepy people following or interacting w/ me, get out
Pronouns: They/them
Interests (In order of how much I focus on them): Murder Drones (current obsession, as you can probably tell...), Splatoon (not very educated on lore sadly...), Wings of Fire (wof discord servers), Nevermore (Webtoon), She-Ra, The Owl House, Steven Universe, Amphibia, KIPO
Uhh... There's probably more but whatever
Hobbies: Drawing traditional art, wondering if I'm doing the right thing on Tumblr, not getting enough sleep, reblogging Tumblr posts at 2 am, finding more Murder Drones blogs to follow, sleeping... Huh, ironic
What I Do: I reblog and like posts from my favorite blogs! I basically just lurk around, throwing love at people's art and posts. I hope that I can help people find cool blogs to follow :]
DNI: LGBTQ+ phobic, TERF, MAP, Zoo, etc, Proshipper. Don't be a bad person. That's all I fucking ask. Have common sense
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Fun facts/Trivia/Whatever you wanna call this:
- I'm in a lot of WoF Army servers, so feel free to ask me about them!
- I draw traditional art of wof ocs, but I'm also trying to figure out digital art! I also dream of being able to draw Drones one day, but anatomy is... a struggle 😭 (feel free to send me tips/guides btw!!!)
- My favorite MD characters and ships are: Doll, Cyn, Lizzy, and Yeva (top 4 char.) | Ships: Dizzy (Doll/Lizzy), RussianDuet (Yeva/Yeva's Husband ((does he have a name??)), Oilrose (J/V), Juzi (J/Uzi), and some others that I literally can't remember because brain no work
- I don't have any strong opinion or preference on ships when it comes to some characters like Uzi, V, J, N, etc as long as it's not problematic. I like seeing other people's ideas and headcanons, either about the characters or ships! I also like Butler N and Maid V, they would be so silly together fr
HOWEVER, I do NOT ship N/Cyn, I see them as siblings. Please, for the love of God..
- I may stop being active on Tumblr for a while at times, but don't worry, I'll be back eventually! [Update: Tumblr takes up ~69% of my screentime so... If I'm gone, assume I'm somewhere without wifi or just trying to save my battery]
- I swear. Just- I swear. I try to keep it to a minimum tho dw... Shit- (haha whoops). Ok but tbf MD has gotten me to say things like "Holy hell!" more often lol
- I like the color periwinkle!! I also like any color from teal to dark purple, and sage green on the side
- Uh... I also don't exactly know my way around Tumblr. Like... Can I reblog something without tags? Does it show if I accidentally un-liked then re-liked a post?? How does tagging work??? Just general stuff too, cause I mostly/only like and reblog cool things
- I'm an English speaker only :/ (but Google translate, my beloved <3)
- I use tone tags a lot! It helps me get my message across correctly, and I hope it helps others understand what I'm trying to say!/gen
- I say things like Dawg, Fr, On god, Silly, Goober, and other things like that quite often, so apologies if it gets annoying/gen
- My timezone is CST! 'Murica !!! 🔥🦅🇺🇲 (Get me out of here)
- Murder Drones is so cool, what, I can't see colors correctly anymore, help me (/pos, MD brings me joy)
- I don't do actual posts often so don't expect that much actual Ghost Content
- guh.
- I LOVE WOMEN THEY'RE SO PRETTY HOLDING HANDS WITH A GIRL WOULD FIX ME IM SUCH A GIRLKISSER (I've never kissed a girl)
- I love yuri. I need yuri. I wake up, yuri. I go to sleep, yuri. Always yuri. Robot yuri? Yes please. I wrote an essay on why I love Doomed/Toxic Yuri because yuri
- Other socials: ghost_bean on Discord, JustARandomGayPerson on toyhou.se
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That's it! Feel free to ask me anything (as long as it's not NSFW, political, hateful, etc), or let me know if I might've forgotten something! I'd love to answer any questions you might have, and I want to get to know Tumblr's silly and amazing community!
Have a great rest of your day/night, and may your favorite show get another season and an (actually good) movie
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siren-serenity · 1 year
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𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐇𝐖𝐀/𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐆𝐀 𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐔𝐓 𝐎𝐔𝐓𝐒 ˚ ༘♡ ⋆。˚
if you've read my 'about me' section, you probably might know that i love reading manwha/manga! the apps i primarily use are from tapas and webtoon so you might have/have not heard of some of these works. without further ado, let's get started!
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↳˳;; ❝ 𝐓𝐀𝐏𝐀𝐒 ᵕ̈೫˚∗
romance ⋆·˚ ༘ * beware the villainess! ⋆·˚ ༘ * the villainess is a marionette ⋆·˚ ༘ * villainesses have more fun ⋆·˚ ༘ * i shall master this family ⋆·˚ ༘ * the male lead's little lion daughter (a/n: although it is under the romance section, it's currently non-romantic! it states it in the description, which made me put it here) ⋆·˚ ༘ * my boss's special request ⋆·˚ ༘ * the siren: becoming the villain's family ⋆·˚ ༘ * revenge on the real one ⋆·˚ ༘ * marriage of convenience ⋆·˚ ༘ * villains are destined to die ⋆·˚ ༘ * what it means to be you (a/n: caution! heavy mentions of depression and suicide, but the plotline is very interesting!) ⋆·˚ ༘ * cassmire: the loyal sword ⋆·˚ ༘ * writing my male lead's happily ever after ⋆·˚ ༘ * just leave me be ⋆·˚ ༘ * the perks of being a villainess
action ⋆·˚ ༘ * solo leveling (a/n: it's getting an anime adaptation yall!!) ⋆·˚ ༘ * the novel's extra ⋆·˚ ༘ * gourmet gaming ⋆·˚ ༘ * second try idol ⋆·˚ ༘ * rookie chef with the magic touch
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↳˳;; ❝ 𝐖𝐄𝐁𝐓𝐎𝐎𝐍 ᵕ̈೫˚∗
romance ⋆·˚ ༘ * the remarried empress ⋆·˚ ༘ * secretary out-of-order ⋆·˚ ༘ * marry my husband ⋆·˚ ༘ * daytime star ⋆·˚ ༘ * serena ⋆·˚ ༘ * leveling up my husband to the max ⋆·˚ ༘ * maybe meant to be (a/n: ML, please just get contacts...i'm begging you) ⋆·˚ ༘ * operation: true love ⋆·˚ ༘ * your throne (a/n: two badass FL is all i can ask for :)) ⋆·˚ ༘ * for my derelict favorite ⋆·˚ ༘ * sixth sense kiss ⋆·˚ ༘ * my in-laws are obsessed with me ⋆·˚ ༘ * i thought my time was up!
action ⋆·˚ ༘ * omniscient reader (a/n: literally my #1 on webtoon! bro i'm addicted to the art and the storyline like hello please grant me those magical abilities tq) ⋆·˚ ༘ * the greatest estate developer (a/n: the mc is so funny like pls- his expressions lmao!! every other second the guy's like: "money, money, money, must be funny, in the rich man's world") ⋆·˚ ༘ * get schooled (honestly i loved this series so much that i binged all 100+ episodes in two days! it finished it's first season and i love each and every arc. the art was magnificient. the character development was amazing. i love it so much!!) ⋆·˚ ༘ * teenage mercenary (10/10 for real!! ijin is so badass, i love the entire concept and 006 can marry me. oh, and 005 can willingly have me as her puppet. i binged all 110+ episodes in two days also! right before exams- sue me, but goddamn i love the series) ⋆·˚ ༘ * lookism (holy shit this was a rollercoaster of emotions idk how i'm going to recover from it- ITS SO GOOD LIKE I JUST WANT MORE!! 400+ EPISODES CAN'T HOLD ME BACK I NEED MOREE)
horror ⋆·˚ ༘ * melvina's therapy (a/n: personally, i'm not into horror but i read a couple of chapters of this and loved it! the art is amazing, everything has so many intricate details that the author literally has to put a message at the end of each 'mini-story' to show the readers little easter eggs they sneaked in and i'm always like: wth??) ⋆·˚ ༘ * surviving romance (a/n: the art is so beautiful!! the plot is tso heartwrenchingly sad, funny, and gorgeous all at once! i binged read all 80+ chapters in two days hahaha)
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axelzp · 7 months
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Ya Know What? I Love Art.
As such, I feel it's time to recommend my favorites from the internet. Enjoy!
GC-Conceptart
Do you like soldiers? Do you like mil-sci? Do you look at Clone Troopers and Halo marines and occasionally Gondor soldiers and just fall in love? This is the channel for you.
Deer-Head
Come for the Jedi/SW OC’s, stay for the insane fucking range of designs from their recent commission work. It’s all beautiful, like god-damn.
esorkzassingonzalez
Stormtroopers. Clone troopers. You like stormies? You like clones? Good, because every damn one is here and then a few hundred more. If you’re looking to see just how creative you get with a blank canvas of white armor, this is it.
WhoKneeDavid
Similar to the above, an absolute smorgasbord for any fan of the armored legions far, far away.
ThePrydonian
Now, replace Stormtroopers with Daleks, and you get this delightful collection, an album of love-letters to Terry Nation’s evil little pepperpots. Hell, they’ve even provided designs for the Big Finish covers!
Kianamaiart
Always find it funny when artists with actual, official artist jobs just, ya know, post fanart of their crackship. In this case: Jesse/Ash’s Mom Delia from Pokemon. It’s all quite cute, and the art itself is really cool.
DanSchkade
Come for the best webcomic on LINE Webtoon (Lavender Jack, of course), stay for the loving tributes to a bygone age of comics, with a bit of pointed humor alongside. An absolute treat, especially for DC fans.
Dragonith
The best, the best, of the various FUSE-Corp Pokemon artists. Near endless combinations of Pokemon means endless creativity, and combined with how each one has an actual stat sheet? Just so goddamn impressive.
ultimatemaverickx
Some fandoms, by virtue of their media’s setting, lend themselves to a wide range of artistic creativity. Mega Man is certainly one of them, and this is where that creativity funnels into. So. Many. Alters! It’s like the mashup action-figure channel of Deviantart, and it’s amazing.
oni18064
I’ve noticed them often on the periphery of original designs for Marvel characters, but after further investigation, this shit is awesome. Enough characters for a whole new continuity, with some really deep cuts and some fascinating changes and unique choices (love it when you can tell which parts of the MCU a person liked and which they ignored). Absolutely adore it now, a definite look for any Marvel fan.
zarla
If it were just the silly, cute and often sad art from Team Fortress 2, Deltarune, Metal Gear and Half-Life, I'd already love this one. But they had to go above and beyond, and that’s where Handplates comes in. A real long-runner of a fan comic, detailing a potential history of Sans, Papyrus, and W.D. Gaster. An absolute treat that recently ended, a definite recommend for Undertale fans.
TheGraffitiSoul
This guy. This fucking guy. Twitter is where you find most of his art nowadays, but holy shit. The most fascinating and brilliant Gemsona out there. An entire Chapter’s worth of Space Marine designs. Tons of amazing Mandalorian and various Star Wars characters. Just…it’s all so detailed and elegant and there are whole backstories for them and I love it all so much.
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kyomunosaki · 9 months
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Just brief thoughts on a certain webtoon getting an adaptation in the near future.
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I'm not going to use the actual tag for the work, since I don't want to start any fights with people who genuinely enjoy it, but holy FUCK this is one of the worst things I've ever experienced. I read up to ch35, and this is like some of the most incelly shit imaginable (and I hear it's like the most mild of the entire genre of whatever this shit is.)
It's basically if someone just took OPM but spun it to be some cynical, misanthropic shit with some sprinklings of like weird Nietzschean? "capitalist actualization" bullshit (I don't know if that's a real phrase, but it feels appropriate.) I looked into a bit more just spoiling myself, and I would imagine this would be like, the foundation for some sort of tragic story, in terms of like otaku-adjacent media, Eren Jaeger's whole schtick or something, but LOL
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I'm genuinely curious to see what the mainstream will think of this once the adaptation drops, assuming it'll be some major talked-about thing. I don't even feel that strongly on it all things being said, but I'm just kind of baffled it has the reputation it does, since I'm someone who genuinely enjoys a lot of shonen works.
After witnessing how bad this misanthropic garbage is even early on, again I'm just absolutely baffled. I get most people just enjoy it for like "WHOA EPIC FIGHT" or whatever, but why can't it just be like a chill time or like, not have some weird incel thematic garbage?
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