I am an emotional wreck over the fact that none of these people are real and are in fact fictional
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Ah someone else who has discovered the joys of Camelot (1967) a movie that I am completely normal about. Have you watched it? Because the delivery of the lines is everything and if you need someone to talk to about it I am, once again, completely normal about it. The scene where Lancelot and Arthur first meet?? A masterpiece in sharing a single braincell. And don't even get me started on the way Guenevere first treats Lancelot "have you jousted with humility lately". It's unapologetically at the top of my Arthuriana movie rank list and has gotten me to reread The Once and Future King
I have not watched the film yet!
I've been listening to the original cast recording on Spotify but, most importantly, I've read the book of the original Broadway production (1960 libretto) and I love it?? It's a delightful little read on its own, even without having watched the musical. (I want other people to read it please it's very funny I promise)
I guess the 1967 film script won't be identical to the libretto but I assume it's fairly similar.
The scene where Lancelot meets Arthur was hilarious it made me laugh out loud. Lancelot utter puzzlement ("Gone a-Maying, Your Majesty??"). Arthur's sudden self-consciousness.
And don't even get me started on the way Guenevere first treats Lancelot "have you jousted with humility lately"
I know!! Lancelot's grating self-righteousness coupled with his complete lack of self-awareness is so funny.
And I loved the gradual tone shift. It starts out so silly and the tragedy sneaks up on you — I thought Guinevere and Lancelot's affair might be played for laughs with an oblivious Arthur but no, it turns out he's fully aware of what's going on and he's forced to watch it unfold because he's powerless to stop it? and he loves them both and doesn't want any harm to come to them even as they betray him??
(He continues talking, looking from one to the other, feverishly — painfully) — Excuse me??
and King Pellinore is hilarious, he enters the scene wearing a monocle followed by a little mongrel named Horrid and talking like a character from a P. G. Wodehouse's novel. Extremely validating because when I read that chapter in Le Morte d'Arthur in which King Pellinore first makes an appearance my first question was "is he meant to be this funny?" and the answer from this script is a resounding YES.
I think I might perhaps watch the 1968 stage production first, merely because it's available for free on Youtube (at least in the UK).
I might try hunting for a free streaming link to the 1967 film, though I don't mind renting it if I can't find it.
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I dunno I think they might share a couple similarities
Some ramblings about the concept of bloody tears below…
Someone was wondering about Tonari crying blood in the OP on Reddit some time ago and tbh it always made me wonder, I’d just get distracted by how pretty that 1 second was lol. This is interesting tho, I guess it acts as a fake death knell. It’s arguably the only thing that was 100% lie the opening, if that was the intended symbolism. It might not be, idk 🤔 If anyone is more familiar with the symbolism I’d love to hear your thoughts. Or who knows, maybe they just did it cuz it looked beautiful. And damn if my girl doesn’t look beautiful 😔
Then there’s Giorno, who, due to childhood trauma, is incapable of crying. He trembles instead. It’s not a detail that’s crazy important to the overall story, but it does shed some light on more emotional scenes where he begins to shake. That said, there’s a scene towards the end of the arc where his stand gets hit over the eye and shatters. I always thought it’d be cool for the scene if his eyes went read and he “cried blood” à la Castlevania. He technically does this in other stand battles, sustaining an injury around his eye in one fight, and having streaks of blood fall from his forehead and down his cheeks in another; but the final battle comes directly after he knows how many of his friends have died . It woulda been neat little detail, but maybe Araki didn’t want to overuse it after having done something similar twice. Still a cool thought tho!
Actually I can’t believe I forgot about Fushi also “crying blood” on Jananda towards the beginning of the tournament. While I think his tears can fall under this explanation, I think he more closely falls under the same explanation as Giorno. Both the idea that he can’t cry due to normal means, but also the fact that he’s thinking about Gugu while this happens, so he really is overwhelmed with emotion tbh.
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A Recent Realisation I’ve had Over Leonard’s End in Ending D (SPOILERS)
//I JUST realised something last night and I’m screaming and crying and wailing and pulling my hair out over it. OKAY (More under cut)
TW: Suicide, mentions of paedophilia
Even after all the time of not giving into his urges, Leonard still ends up using Seere for his own gratification. How, you may ask? His last scene in Ending D - via sacrificing himself to save Seere where he couldn't his brothers, Leonard had went on with either little to NO thought or care about how him achieving his own personal "redemption" for Seere's life would in turn pass on his survivours guilt to him and leave Seere alive, for the meantime, but either dealing with the fact his friend, who’s comfort he needed more than EVER, had died “for his sake” (Something I certainly do NOT expect a 6 year old to fully understand) before facing a horrific death or having to shoulder that for the rest of his immortal life.
In short: Leonard, who's overall VERY considerate of his whole "If it has even a 0.001% chance of hurting Seere in any way shape or form im not going to do it" still passed his OWN pain onto Seere, a literal child, in the end for the sake of his own "redemption" and in turn ends up further placing himself in that "morality paradox" wedge between
He saved Seere where he couldn't his brothers and used his own life where he was too frightened to before (Good)
...At the cost of passing the same survivours guilt onto a child who already has a near ZERO PERCENT chance at survival, not to mention how he was unknowingly perceived as Leonard's "second chance" and in extension is already seen in a more objective sense in that aspect than as a human being.
I often think about Seere’s relationship to Leonard and how it’s a mix between sexual/romantic love, actual familial and genuinely caring love, and also,,, abstract love??? Like love for a concept, object, or the such more than the love for a person, and it’s all three but especially the last one in the sense that the best thing I feel Leonard could have possibly done if he thought things through just a second more which makes me really understand where it was coming when the Materials summary said he had committed suicide, rather than say he sacrificed himself - Aside from him failing to see Seere outside the scope of redemption fodder and seriously fucking him up in the aftermath, the more I think about it ESPECIALLY in this context, Leonard was not in the right state of mind when he up and decided to “sacrifice” himself. Another layer to him “Gaining enough courage” to end it where he couldn’t in his introduction, Leonard was more so looking for a way out than anything - and I can’t blame him, not only does he have his whole essay’s worth of pre-established issues, but now the world looks like it’s on its way to ending, being infested with things FAR beyond anyone’s knowledge, and he just saw one of his allies get mobbed and eaten right in front of him - that a chance would present itself for him to “sacrifice” himself and hope to obtain his redemption for his brothers’ sakes in the process was a matter of clear convenience he took into account (Though of course, that’s saying it both meta-wise and literally).
Looking back through the context that Seere had seen his friend commit suicide for him, rather than that he saw his friend sacrifice himself for him, also makes sense in the lens of how Seere blames himself for Leonard’s death and how he was seen much more as an object of redemption rather than a child that needed to be taken care of in that moment particularly (”Is it my fault Leonard’s dead?”)
In the end, I feel what really would have been the best for Seere in the face of complete hopelessness would have just been having him there for comfort.
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