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a-dragons-journal Ā· 6 months ago
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How exactly is being otherkin any different than being transracial by idea? I’m not pro-transracial, but I can’t really formulate an argument on where the difference is and why one is okay while the other isn’t
The difference, in my opinion at least, basically comes down to the fact that race and ethnicity are things other real people deal with and which have big cultural impact for a lot of people; species is not. You can't hurt theriform wolves by identifying as a wolf because wolves are not people and are not aware of any of this. Dragons may be people depending on the dragon, but they don't exist physically in this world to have an opinion. You can, however, hurt people of color by identifying as transethnicity and approaching it in a disrespectful way.
And I say it that way because if I'm honest, transethnicity is one of those transIDs where I'm... a little torn on it. I can understand the feelings and experiences they're describing, but I struggle to find a way to engage with the idea of being transethnicity that isn't going to wind up being racist in one way or another. And while I haven't exactly spent a ton of time in radqueer/transID spaces, when I've gone into their tags and such to do a little research on them, I have overwhelmingly seen transethnicity people being kind of if not extremely racist about it. The experiences are not inherently harmful, but it's really easy to slide into engaging with those experiences in a way that's harmful.
And yet... in this community we have, for example, fictionkin whose fictotypes are a different race than them all the time, and sometimes that's very important to who their fictotype is and how they view the world. And that works out fine. I think the primary difference is that fictionkin are generally expected to acknowledge that they're not a part of that group in the present and can't speak on the group's issues or experiences as if they were, whereas the minute you put a trans- label onto the word, the expectation is that you should be treating a trans[x] person as if they're [x]. (And if it's not, then... why are you calling it trans- anything to begin with when that's what trans- means in an identity context?)
So, I do genuinely believe that they're having these experiences, but... idk, there has to be a better way to frame and engage with those experiences. I don't know what that is, but it's got to be out there somewhere, though it may not be a one-size-fits-all answer. (And maybe there's a transID community out there that's found it, I don't know.)
Anyway, open invitation for POC to give their thoughts on this, since they've probably got better-constructed ones than me; if I'm honest, I haven't spent all that much time thinking about this issue. I think about it on and off here and there when it comes up and then it gives me a headache so I move on.
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sukibenders Ā· 2 months ago
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Me, watching some YJS fans justify what Shauna did to Mari by using clips of Mari and Jackie giggling in s1 (normal teenage girl things), or Mari speaking the truth and trying to take Jackie's jacket (even though it was the middle of winter and the group were already sharing clothes), with said fans saying that they've would've done worse to Mari in response, acting like that makes them any better:
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#yellowjackets spoilers#yellowjackets#like this fandom continues to disappoint me#ā€œshe's traumatizedā€ not an excuse especially since she specifically was targeting mari for the thrill and dehumanized her body after#something in which she hadn't done to the other kills mind you and then wore mari's hair as a trope#*trophy#that is beyond being traumatized and just shauna being horrific. it's okay to admit that#what isn't okay however is to dismiss valid criticism (largely from poc fans) about how dehumanizing it was that she did to mari#by saying ā€œwomen can't commit wrongsā€ or ā€œlet women be wrongā€ when you know damn well that isn't the case#(or are you mad that you can't live out your violent fantasy thru shauna without being called out? hmm)#and all the reasons those fans use to justify it are just mari being 1.) a teenage girl 2.) being truthfully honest and 3.) worse sins have#been committed by the other characters like SHAUNA#when you bring up how shauna slept jeff and got pregnant by her best friend's boyfriend it's just ā€œoh teenage girl thingsā€#but when mari is also doing ā€œteenage girl thingsā€ one which includes being shady and a bit mean suddenly that excuse no longer applies#largely bc fandom often times doesn't sympathize much with poc characters as they do their yte counterparts#especially if they're young#shauna shipman#mari ibarra#anti shauna shipman#if i ever said that shauna was one of my faves i take it back SO HARD#shauna's ass crying back in the adult tl like she's innocent....i need her to die#but watch the show give her a graceful send out bc it's the shauna show (even tho it's an ensemble cast)#it's kind of annoying to see these fans use lottie as a comparison saying that people care about mental illness as long as the person#doesn't react violently like shauna and while to a degree i can understand bc that is true#in this case it kind of falls flat when you take into consideration how in the show and fandom lottie and her mental state haven't been#treated with the same response or care that shauna has (lottie is beaten brutally while experiencing an episode by shauna)#and it's done dirty throughout the show until her death with only really simone speaking up angrily against how she's portrayed#(same people who are justifying shauna lashing out in anger regarding her trauma were the same ones who were hating on travis in s1 & s2)
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not enough discussion about the gavins' complicated relationship with feminine-coded/beauty products, i don't think.
#for klavier because it's not as direct it's about how we never see him actually wearing lipstick? even though apollo literally attends#a concert of his which is where you'd most expect him to wear makeup. but apparently he just doesnt. or at least not in public#klavier gavin#kristoph gavin#i feel like there are several ways you can read into it. the misogyny/toxic masculinity one is really obvious clearly with kristoph's#singling out of men specifically and klavier's (probably accidental?) condescending manner of calling women 'fraulein' plus his general#mildly patronising attitude towards many of the women in the game (also probably unintentional)#(i think he's trying to be charming and it's coming off wrong to some of them. like ema. and me.)#but i feel like there's also maybe an element of... inherent perfecfionism to it? like both of these products are conventionally beautifyin#products and kristoph while he is open to showing people he uses nail polish specifically chooses one that's clear and missable unless you#see him apply it. he also feels the need to justify his use of it and specifically spell it out as something he chooses to do rather than#needs to do even though duh. that should be obvious.#idk there's just something about his seeming need to take control of that narrative that i find interesting. his need to spin it into a#'there's nothing wrong with my nails but I had the foresight to see that even the smallest parts of my appearance should be kept immaculate#and it's a choice i'm making to refine an already adequate part of my personage /not/ to cover some unsightly defect.' the need to emphasis#that specifically is so. hm. and with klavier i could see it being a case of him liking makeup liking the pops of colour yet being unwillin#to admit to it because he's afraid that other people might see it as him being dissatisfied with his own appearance regardless of if he is#or isn't. or even just perceiving colourful makeup as being unseemly because it's so overt and unnatural.#like i can see this as them both viewing 'real' beauty to be that which is inherent to a person and seemingly effortless#thus somehow negating the beauty which one achieves through cosmetics or other external means.#and if you want to use external means to achieve beauty or neatness or whatever then your only valid options are those which blend into you#natural state. like clear nail polish. or really awful spray tan.#i feel like klavier's less confined by these ideas (if they hold merit at all) considering he actually owns coloured lipstick and he wears#jewellery (admittedly quite 'masculine' jewellery no gems or pearls or anything like that but jewellery nonetheless) but i think it just#makes it more interesting that he doesnt seem quite able to cross the line anyway. like it's that ingrained into his system.#anyway that's all i've got. you guys should tell me what you think too#annotations
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marzipanandminutiae Ā· 4 months ago
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Eggers confirmed in interview that Ellen wasn't a child, she was teenager at the start of the film. You can probably say there's case of ephebophilia. But there is no CSA there. Also Eggers absolutely saw it as Dark romance and ships it himself. He wouldn't be doing it if there was CSA.
And that's fine, but not everyone accepts Word of God as canon
My thoughts on Eggers' interview statements are that he should have made his intentions clearer if that's what he was going for, because a huge portion of the audience came away with the impression that it was about someone's stalker/rapist coming back to jeopardize the life she'd made for herself out from under his thumb. And like...if he wanted people to not think that, he should have made directing choices that made the onscreen story match his vision better.
You're free to interpret it however you want. What I take issue with is people saying that there's One True Interpretation and no viable way to see it in any other light. There's one interpretation that the director intended, but the movie he actually made leaves holes to interpret it a different way. He shouldn't have made it that way if he had a very specific story to tell.
How can I see it as CSA? Simple. She said she was "a child" when it started and even if she was a young teenager, it being the early 1830s (assuming she's like 20-23 at time of canon, based on statistical age at first marriage for women back then) doesn't magically make 15-year-olds adults. 15 back then was about like 17 now- not a Tiny Baby, but decidedly not a Full Grown-Up either. "Child" CAN be a euphemistic term for a naive or inexperienced adult, but it's not always
And maybe if he wanted people to not interpret her as a literal child...he shouldn't have had her characterize herself that way in the dialogue, talking about when all of this started? "I was so young," "I didn't know better," "I was a fool," "I was naive," etc. SO MANY clearer wordings there. They already didn't get a child actress to play her in the opening scene; without that line, I'd assume it had been like. A few years before her marriage, when she was maybe 17-18, and just seen it as abuse rather than arguable CSA. It's a weird dialogue choice if he wanted to convey "the vampire sex started when she was young but not unacceptably young," like many other weird choices that I felt were counterproductive to his stated narrative aims.
Doesn't mean my interpretation is objectively correct either! But you don't see me going around saying that there's No Way Anyone Could See It As Consensual And That's Wrong And Bad.
I have both been there and done that before, coming from a fandom (Crimson Peak) where there's no way to interpret a central relationship as peer CSA/COCSA if you go by Word of God, but there's absolutely space for that based on what ended up in the actual movie. And I've had to make peace with it, even though I ship that couple to the moon and back.
You like these fake people kissing in this way, and other people don't. And that's fine! You don't need a big moral justification for it, or to have the Single Correct Interpretation!
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daily-odile Ā· 1 year ago
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Odile patting Molly Epithet Erased on the head, you know why
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have two bc i care them
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crookedfivefingers Ā· 1 year ago
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ā€œImpossibly thick, I was.ā€
Doctor Who . Titan Comics
The Thirteenth Doctor | Read: 201/204
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solardrop Ā· 4 months ago
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Haley was super sweet, hot, was not standing for hotch's bullshit, stood ten toes down against a serial murder to protect their kid
Kate Joyner looked exactly like Haley so hot, but you can't even blame him he's a man who went to Scotland yard by himself he hoe'd it up with thought of his wife. She was a bit of a bitch when she felt her job was in danger but otherwise was really nice with him.
Beth was really sweet. She was hot. Left him no hesitation for a new job opportunity and soon after became first Lady of the United states.
John Blackwolf, didn't stand for his bullshit, was a bitch. He was hot. Literally mocked hotch for being a lil white cop bitch boi to his face multiple times. Was super nice with the kids in his town.
There was that black drag queen he was eyeing up. Hotchgan becomes more and more valid to me each day. If Mr scratch didn't get his ass I know we would see him date again, curse you cm writers.
In short hotch is gonna eat whatever I give him idk. I personally think I'm super nice, hot and I find great joy in cussing men out esp if they're white I hit all his stops really.
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pinkyjulien Ā· 5 months ago
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Prologue V is always such a mood hfhghgfh
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witheredgardenparty Ā· 18 days ago
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I've been seeing a lot of posts lately in which the op will complain that people are wildly mischaracterizing their favorite characters.
I feel like it bears reminding that "as long as you can back up your arguments with evidence, there can be multiple, and even conflicting, valid interpretations of the same text" and "just because the interpretation is valid, does not mean you have to internalize it into your understanding of the text" coexist.
#'Valid' in the literary sense.#Obligatory: not all interpretations are valid. People will just make things up. Many people have no media literacy.#*But just because you do not like an interpretation does not automatically make it invalid.*#I will be the first to say that fanon interpretations tend to lean more towards 'invalid'.#Or at the very least. The foundation might be valid and then it stretches it into less valid territory.#I've noticed this is often due to some sort of build-up effect. Take one aspect of a character and stretch it to an extreme.#Or seriously downplay other aspects of a character. Help you if someone has a favorite food.#This is not a Tumblr or shipping exclusive problem either. We are not throwing stones in glass houses. More like.#If you are in a fandom and you are trying to fill an emotional or artistic need you are coming at interpretations more heavily biased.#But so is the op who is complaining. In many such cases I often notice that the person making such posts#is not free from the same accusation that they are dishing out.#They just are upset that the more popular biased interpretation is not the one they are more comfortable with.#I would recommend trying to keep different minds when interacting with the source material vs when interacting with the fandom itself.#Just to prevent yourself from remembering The Text as shadow dolls playing make believe on cave walls.#Meanwhile please just block people who annoy you. Cherish the one life you are given.
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fortes-fortuna-iogurtum Ā· 2 months ago
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studying Philosophy is really like
you think this is going to help you understand the world and your place in it better,
but actually all it does is confuse and befuddle you farther than ever before
and also you make friends with the most annoying (read: great, smart, lovely, kind, but argumentative as ALL GET OUT) people in the world and then you realize you've BECOME one of those people and you kind of want to just curl up in a nice quiet little hole in the ground with all your books and read and think until a complete and total understanding of the world falls out of your noggin and everything makes sense; but actually you just want to take a walk in the woods with a friend and not think about anything for at least a year.
#I have a paper due on the philosophy of math#at 8 AM TOMORROW#and my brain is NOT WORKING#and I really want to go cry for a while#but that's not really going to fix anything at all is it#on a related note if y'all want to pray for me... my emotions have returned and they really just want to process everything that's#happened for approximately my entire life at one time. and it's kind of hard to do all the things I think I should be doing right now#when that's going on#also thinking too much about trying to love people well and what that means and how bad at it I've been and it's hard not to get stuck ther#when there's basically nothing I can change anyway#(need to have an awkward convo with someone soon... for my sake probably more than theirs#I fear I haven't loved them well and it matters to me to know that our friendship hasn't been compromised#but unfortunately it's also strike one) a boy and strike two) a boy I like#and unfortunately he figured it out and I have a pretty good indication that he doesn't like me back. and I can't tell if he's interested i#a mutual friend#and I am AwkwardTM and trying not to let it bother me. but Fake It Till You Make It#(my philosophy since getting to college)#isn't really going that well for me in this case.#and I think an honest conversation would be the best thing for everyone... except I'm kinda terrified of that lol :') and I want to serve#him well not just serve my own emotions and need for validation)#prayers would be appreciated#that I will love others as they are meant to be loved and not just as I want to love them#or as my selfish emotions and desires think I want to love them#and that I'll be able to know when something needs to be said and when nothing at all is the best option for everyone#God sees and knows. and He loves me. and that is so /so/ hard to believe sometimes but I try to hold onto it with everything I have lately.#gurt says stuff#college stuff#philosophy#one day I'll look back and laugh at undergraduate me#personal tags
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lightbulb-warning Ā· 10 months ago
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so has anyone figured out WHY there is the Need To Share our Artworksā„¢ or is it just the vibes and our Soul apparently
#ive been running on ā€œtwo cakes. u aren't BOTHERING people by putting art on their feed they can scroll past it/if they dont they get ā€cakeā€œā€#and we love ā€œcakeā€#ā€œcakeā€ is picture on the internet in this case#like okay the contracts and transaction format is a me problem!! i need to get rid of the ā€œutilitarian brain wormsā€ bc they're boring#this is supposed to be a hobby and the ā€œget a good grade in hobbyā€ wolf in the brain is just crying bc that's how they understand the world#the ā€œget a good grade in xā€ wolf has valid pain but needs to stop controlling my life because they don't need to earn ā€œenough value to liveā€#ect ect ect#and the life of minmaxxed utility is a life of trying to appeal to a ā€œcorrectā€ that doesn't exist yaddi yadda = boring#i love you wolf. also shut up. affectionate. concerned. you get it#ok so we remove tangible purpose from act of experience art because THAT'S not ā€œthe pointā€#because ā€œthe pointā€ is the joy killer eccetera ecc#but then what? ā€œhere check out this labor of love. i drew this fucker 15 times. no there's no story* there it's just a guyā€#*story in this case being an emotional engagement/a situation/a context in which to ponder/other#so it's just a Draw. no further analysis. what do others Get from that?#i know i deeply enjoy art because im a fan of the process of People Making Stuff. i love when there was nothing but now there's something!!!#THAT'S what's it all about!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to me!!!! right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#so it stands to reason that creation is purpose enough?? to be experienced???? to be known????????#idk!!#this is a nothing burger of a thought people have always liked picture on the internet stfu maiora there doesn't need to be a reason#this is just the brainworms talking!!! because god forbid ā€œsomething not have a purposeā€??? blegh!!!!!!!!#sounds like unhealthy rationalizing instead of letting things be out of The Fearā„¢!!sounds like depraving urself from joy bc of BRAINWORMS!!!#so like!!!!! picture on the internet doesn't NEED inherent value. creation is enough!! (plus there's the Attachment to Character. also.)#but then why are YOU *points at you* here? gen q!!#i made an image you like and now you are reading my word babble in some tags!!! what's THAT all about???????????#it's INTERESTING!! do you see what im trying to get at??#is it empathy??? person made something other saw something other made- other2other connection???? intrigue????????#.......all this is probably explained in some book or yt essay somewhere. oh well.#in the meantime thank you for your time! we can pretend we were stuck in an elevator together and then i started rambling#i hope you have a great rest of your day thanks for stopping by!! <3#maiora garrulates
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coffinbutch Ā· 2 months ago
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Using generative ai to "make" "art" is very stupid for lots and lots of reasons but the absolute truth of why I will never touch it or even think of using it to assist in the creation of anything including boring emails is that I am way too much of a control freak to ever let a computer do anything for me
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bitchybylershipper Ā· 6 months ago
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aroace?? you are not broken quit the self loathing you are now the number one friend lover there is no one who loves their friends more than you and that's pretty swag
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briebysabs Ā· 2 years ago
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It is possible mochijun has vanoĆ© be in the same state as ozlice, a form of love that is beyond labels. And I’d love that but when having NoĆ© react during Vanitas lines like: ā€œI have no interest in a person who’d fall for meā€
ā€œAs if anyone would fall for a person like meā€
ā€œFall for meā€ is a phrase almost always used in romantic context. Vanitas uses it that way, I don’t know if this is an exact translation of what is said in japanese. But I would assume the connotation is still a romantic one, not just vague ā€œloveā€. That’s why I’m so curious where she’s taking their relationship, especially on Noe’s end bc he’s narrating this. There’s too many vanoĆ© moments that have an underlying layer of ā€œnot platonicā€. We saw NoĆ© dance with Domi at the Bal Masque and him dancing with Vanitas later on.
Those two scenes are treated very differently when they didn’t have to be. NoĆ© remembering the time he met Vanitas with literal rose-tinted glasses. This isn’t really done for someone who’s just a ā€œdear friend.��� At least in manga. That’s why I don’t agree with vanoĆ© being queerbait because it cheapens their relationship. This isn’t fan-service, they are important scenes for their characters and the story. There is thought and planning behind it. Explicitly canon or not.
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heybaetae Ā· 1 year ago
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