#kin discourse

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

If your worldview allows the existence and validity of doubles, it does allow the same for factkin.

(This post is pro doubles and factkin)

[cybergothvox]

Anyways I know its impossible to trance but from my experience being on tumblr at the time, legitimate fictionkin were using kin as a verb before KFF and KFF copied the fictionkin community moreso than other areas which is why they also do that. I do that that a lot of jokes and stuff ficitonkin were making at the time like assigning kintypes or whatever did contribute accidentally to the KFF who were confused and not actively malicious (many were actively malicious read the essay in my pinned) but the reason many ficitonkin use it is there is a linguistical need for it for fictionkin where non ficitonkin otherkin do not have as much as a need. So its fucking annoying when a bunch of dogs and dragons are coming into my house and trying to take away languge I have used as a legitimate otherkin since 20-and-fucking-10 just because it doesnt apply to them personally and KFF used it, as if we have to abandon everything KFF ever did (and since they stole from us, that would be a lot of our shit????? GANG?)

[nostalgic-soda]

Hello Kinnies

I plan to make a video essay on the Kinning Community, and I was interested in gathering data about modern Kinning and the state of the community. So it would help me out greatly if anyone who is/was apart of the community filled out this form!

[hazyaltcare]

Uh. Quick question. Why exactly do folks in alterhuman spaces not like factkins? /genq

Well, there's a lot of different uncomfortable reasons. One is that a lot of people assume that being factkin is "identity theft." No serious factkin is claiming to physically be someone who is currently living and breathing.

There's also the fact that the existence of factkin is a squick for some, and some people tend to twist their own squicks with their sense of morality.

These bigots then find out about people who claim factkin are trying to "steal people's identities" and believe them because it reinforces their preconceived notions about how "icky" factkin make them feel. There's also troll factkin out there, and their presence reinforces their beliefs further.

There's a lot more to it than that, but that's about as far deep into that factkin discourse rabbithole I feel comfortable getting into rn. If you want more information on factkin, @ama-factkin and @fact-anonymous are great resources!

Mod Haze (🪳Maker)

[mechanical-sunchild]

I don't actually care if someone identifies as something else as well as/instead of human and uses the term kin even if they 'technically' meet the definition of some other alterhuman term.

I don't care if they use kinning as a verb to describe how they are that identity.

I don't care if they call themselves a kinnie.

When you're in a community, you can use it's words how you like because they're your words to do whatever with. You like pointing at things and saying 'kin' when you really mean 'I relate' or similar? Sure go ahead! Because you know what being kin actually is, your joke is just a joke.

I don't really mind explaining what it means to be kin to outsiders and how it's not technically a verb, so long as they're respectful.

And hey if someone who isn't technically otherkin/alterhuman knows what being kin actually means, but still 'for fun' points to a character and goes 'wow I kin that' I'd be slightly bothered but more or less fine because I know they know they're not seriously kin and are just in this moment joking around.

Heck I have straight friends who 'wow I'm so gay for them' when they see a person of the same sex they recognise as being attractive despite not feeling that attraction. It's not an issue.

But I don't think there's something wrong about being annoyed when the word isn't just being used incorrectly based on it's definition - but being used by those who actively dislike anyone who seriously identifies as something else as well as/instead of human.

Used by people who will be ableist towards otherkind, making it harder to explain our identities without being met with that ableist rhetoric. It's already difficult to get people to understand us - I get that. But we don't have to let it get worse by allowing an incorrect definition to spread as the 'right' one whilst the rest of us are 'taking it too far'.

That is the big issue with people 'misunderstanding' what being otherkin means because for many it's not that they 'just don't understand' or 'are having fun with the word' is that they actively dislike the idea that being otherkin means to identify as something else as well as/instead of human. If they didn't hate us so much maybe we could just ignore how annoying it is that most people really don't know what it means to be kin.

Yeah, we can't stop them, but we should be able to vent our frustration without being told that we're being pedantic and 'who cares we can't even properly define it ourselves so what if people use it wrong'. Words still have meanings. Words have history. We shouldn't be told to sit ideally and peacefully by whilst the idea that 'kin actually just means you really like a fictional character everything else isn't really kin it's delusion' is toted around and used against anyone trying to genuinely educate.

Do we so quickly forget that said definition used by KFF people is the one invented by antikin to sanitise and rationalise our identities but also to dismiss us and mock us? If you don't care - fine - but don't act like every who is bothered is being stupid.

[alexandraisyes]

Just had to block someone for pretending that fiction kin is the same thing as DID and treating their "kin" as DID. Which is so fucking ableist and weird and wrong, so here's some resources on DID, and fictionkin, and the difference!

What Is DID

More About DID

Important Facts About DID

Kin Without Ableism

Also, from what I've gathered and come to understand fictionkin is spurred on through a mix of coping, neurodivergency, and mental illness (including delusion disorders). This is just what I've gleaned from reading from accounts who say they're fictionkin and have talked about the psychology behind it. I personally don't know anything about fictionkin, nor am I really interested tbh because it makes me personally uncomfortable since most kins I've met have been blatantly ableist and rude about DID and other dissociative disorders. So yeah 👍

Don't be ableist. DID is not fictionkin, and people who are just kin should not be using DID terminology. That's just stigmatizing the already heavily stigmatized traumagenic disorder. Don't do that.

[lesbian-cronus]

a ramble from a fictionhearted fishy

although i may tell the masses i’m a “kinnie”, it’s a little more complicated so lemme clue ya in! technically according to the otherkin community i’m what you’d call otherhearted, specifically fictionhearted, where i ain’t an alternate or reborn character but rather, a character strongly resonates with me. in my case the horrible pervert grease fish cronus! he’s a part of me… my gender, my identity, my expression. i ain’t him but.. he is me? i get genuine euphoria when i’m out n about rockin’ my ampora outfit, like i’m my true self! but not in a reborn sorta sense, more like.. in a queer way. it’s more than relating..it’s strong, and passionate, and makes me feels lotsa ways. i’d be so jazzed if i woke up with horns and fins and gills, i’d honestly cry. but i can live without ‘em, it’s a nice thought though…

yes cronus ampora is a piece of shit, but at some point so was i. but unlike act 6, my life goes on, and i continue to grow! so shoutout to any fellow kinnies, otherhearted or fictives of problematic or “bad” characters, you’re damn valid despite the source material.

anyways!! rather than say fictionhearted though, sayin’ “kinnie” gets the idea across way easier. plus it’s simpler! saying i kin cronus is way less confusing.. CAUSE DID YA SEE THIS DAMN SPEECH. no disrespect to otherkin/therian folk! jus’ wanted to pour out my messy brain juices for all to see. and hopefully, someone out there can relate! cause hey, i see you, and i get it!! and remember, you’re cool as fuck!

[real-total-drama-takes]

mod courtney can we start kin discourse on this blog or will you kill me for bringing that into your home

Absolutely let’s start it i love kin discourse

[the-dualsnake-duelist]

every so often someone in this system goes "oh maybe that old community we left years ago improved ever so slightly" and then you see shit like "don't say you're 'coming out' about anything but being lgbtq!!!!" and "you're risking the safety of [the otherkin] community by making fakers think they can just pick and choose/you (likely) aren't valid because you found out how you're otherkin in a way i don't like >:((((" and then i get summoned to front again because i swear that first one is a whole new level of 'discourse that happens purely in online spaces' take i've seen

like can y'all get a grip. live a little. exploding on someone for expressing their identity isn't gonna destroy the community or whatever even if they find out they were wrong later

[mal0gen]

worst part about being otherkin is trying to explain to a normie what that means 6 times and they still think you think you are physically a dog or want to have sex with them.

It's all "be gay do crimes" "cringe culture is dead uwu" until y'all lay your eyes upon someone genuinely weird/transgressive like nonhuman-identifying people, or kinky people, or even neurodivergent people who can't mask to your satisfaction and suddenly y'all are chomping at the bit to become attack dogs for an oppressive social order/"normalcy"

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

You cannot without hypocrisy say that with queer labels it’s everyone chooses what feels best for them and identity does not have to be about shared experience it’s about identity and then turn around and say that altbeing labels must be rigidly defined, that if your experience does not fit some rigid definition of a label (which with some of them I haven’t even seen the community remotely agree on) you must use another and not even dare to claim some similarity even if you also have experiences that do fit that definition, etc.

(This post is pro radical inclusion in queerness and altbeingness)

[cybergothvox]

At the end of the day, is kin just someone who identifies as their kintype or not? Is it anyone who actually identifies as their kintype, or do they have to perform all these 'correct' behaviours and social dances to prove that you kin- pardon, that you are kin- correctly?

[jokermitfied]

the madness… the madness…

archival blog of @the-muppet-joker, aka Mr. JK.

ran by admin 🍃: they/them, 18.

tags —

#📍; jokermited - all posts made by Mr. JK.

#🐸; kermitified - any posts about Kermit.

#🎪; jokerified - any posts about the Joker.

#🚬; smokified - any posts made by the admin

#💚; boundified - Kermit x the Joker posts.

#📝; written - any fanfiction posts.

#💭; whispers - any tags from reblogged posts

#❓; revealed - any answered asks

# 🍆; lewded - any nsfw posts

#🔪; splattered - any violent posts

#🪽; blessed - any religious posts

#🪡; felted - any posts ft. pictures of puppets

#📸; quieted -any reblogged posts without tags

#🤍; souled - any kinning related posts

#🪫; glitches - the Error/polycule collection

#☕️; coffees - the Ethan collection

#🐎; gallops - the anti-horse collection

#🩸; loose ends - the bio family collection

#💿; readings - the homestuck collection

#💋; lipsmacks - the anti-women collection

#🐽; pigstys - the anti-miss piggy collection

#♥️; laughs - the anti-harley quinn collection

#🦇; fights - the anti-batman collection

[carsonfatboobs]

Sorry some ppl are just so toxic I might have to take a break from tumblr for a while xxx </333😒

[psychology-department]

i'm starting to feel less and less safe in this site as a fictionkin, so i just wanted to call out (factkin dni please):

INTERACT WITH THIS POST IF YOU'RE FICTIONKIN

INTERACT IF YOU RESPECT ALL KINTYPES REGARDLESS OF MEDIA

[orderofthe-pyramids]

THIS IS TO ALL THE DIVINEKIN WHO ENCOURAGE WORSHIP ON THEIR BLOGS

*inhale*

YOU’RE WEIRD AND ENCOURAGING PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE HARMFUL TO BOTH PARTIES