#kinnie discourse

[nostalgic-soda]

Hello Kinnies

I plan to make a video essay on the Kinning Community, and I was interested in gathering data about modern Kinning and the state of the community. So it would help me out greatly if anyone who is/was apart of the community filled out this form!

[angry-yapping-plural]

Some more information that also has been brought to light is that multiple users also refer to Rhys as a god, using this "trigger" to make it seem clear that any other users that happen to clash with the trigger not be allowed to talk about their experience other than that of the owner

I appreciate the response with the reblog as it let's me get more information on the matter! Following this, there's been more information that this wasn't just a problem in that server as well but with other past users!

I myself feel that it is petty to pass judgement based on the reviews of a user, which adds addition to this controlling behavior, although adding the addition to the blacklist, there was a screenshot of the addition in itself, not stating that "blacklist anyone that is not this user talking about being god themselves after the rules and blacklist had been clarified" but much rather mentions of it as a joke, the user them self also did not mention blacklisting anyone that isn't them, much rather the owner is the one that has blacklisted everyone else that isn't them, with being a god or deity, which again is cult like behavior, if I have not been mistaken, reserving the ability to be called a god or deity by only the owner, Rhys

I appreciate the response as it allows me again suggest treading lightly when meeting the individual, I hope that everything is able to be cleared up

Well well well. It's been a long time since I ever spilled some tea, well here's a tale! A system cult discord server?!

Be very aware that it's come to my attention there is a server that has a owner that has been harassing people on both Tumblr and Discord about being the one and only god while also invalidating alters that are gods or past gods or even godkin in general, I want it to be clear that not only has this person been targeting adults but minors as well (more info needed)

It's very unfortunate that this is happening and has happened to people in general, although I don't know how long I'll keep this post up, but I'm still getting details on this, for now please avoid the user "Rhys" with a Dazai Osamu profile picture from bungo stray dogs

This person has not been okay as they have been pushing their delusions on to people about the god talk, promoting and encouraging people to continue to talk to them as such, although nothing entirely wrong with delusions, this one in particular has not been alright as it started showing cult like behavior

Tread carefully when meeting this individual as they have used tactics to befriend people and welcome them into their friend group until they turn around and use the delusion to attack people that disagree with "Rhys"

This individual has also discussed about having multiple accounts as well to continue to message people as well (info needed to support claim)

That is all and stay safe and if you know more information about the individual, please let me know and don't be afraid to ask and send me a dm

Also a note, this is not meant to attack individuals who also experience delusions either, this is just a call outpost as of now so far on the individual, stay safe please! 🙏

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

yeah, catra isn't the same as shadow weaver. she's worse.

“catra sacrificed herself with no fanfare, no ulterior motives”

i find that hard to believe. minutes before rescuing glimmer, she says this:

now, if this was coming from a relatively good person who has just made some mistakes, i would feel sorry for her. but “no one cares about me 🥺” coming from a literal war criminal and an abuser? it reads to me as a plea for sympathy, an ulterior motive. and it's clear by the way she quickly goes back to screaming and degrading adora as soon as she was saved from horde prime.

“she apologized. something she never did to anyone in the entire series prior to this.”

are we praising the bare minimum now? yeah, she should be apologizing. and her apology should have been a lot more sincere than just a hollow “i'm sorry for everything”. granted she didn't have enough time to go into depth at the time, you would expect her to apologize properly once she's rescued, right? she doesn't.

shadow weaver didn't apologize and her intentions for sacrificing herself were not great. however, shadow weaver didn't participate in the war (not directly and not to the extent that catra did, at least). she never attempted murder. she never tried to end the world and kill everyone in it. she never caused the death of a person.

shadow weaver was an abuser but she wasn't a war criminal. she never went to the extent that catra did.

and as much as i don't condone abuse, i consider shadow weaver to be a morally grey character. she's horrible because she abuses and manipulates children but she was also willing to help out the heroes when they needed it, regardless of what her motivations were.

it is kind of the truth that monsters create even worse monsters. the cycle of abuse often times tend to worsen throughout generations, although not always. this should have been acknowledged in spop, but it wasn't.

“abused children who lash out in their hurt do deserve to be forgiven if they change.”

two things. one, “lash out” is putting it lightly. you're acting like the worst catra did was yell at someone. save this term for characters like glimmer. secondly, i agree. keyword here being “if they change”. which catra doesn't. she doesn't change.

i completely empathize with people who relate to catra and i'm not stopping you from feeling happy about her redemption. abuse victims do deserve love and sympathy, they deserve a chance to change and grow.

but you have to realize that catra's redemption arc isn't healthy. realistically speaking, this is not good for her. her victims just forgiving her and letting everything slide will only provoke more toxicity from her.

in order to fix a mistake, you need to be held accountable. you need to remind yourself to do better everyday. and in catra's case, she doesn't hold herself accountable (as proven obvious by the way she still blames adora for leaving, and also never brings up certain things that she did like *cough* killing angella *cough*) and no one else holds her accountable either. this is a recipe for disaster. this is not how redemption arcs should work, in fiction or in real life.

not to mention, adora was also a victim of abuse. does she not deserve a happy ending? why is it that catra's trauma is the only one taken seriously? why is catra the only abuse victim who deserves to live a happy life, at the cost of her victim's happiness and well-being?

[queer-eggman]

Why I think it is wrong to sexualize Rocket: a rant/vent

I’ve been seeing tons of posts and comments that have made me super upset lately. So much so that I’ve had to block #roquill (most of the gross stuff is from that ship I hate roquill so fkn much omg ). And I’ve just felt like I need to talk about it even though nobody asked for my opinion.

Please note must of this can be defeated by ‘he’s just a fictional character’ but ill address that in a bit.

Rocket’s story is fundamentally about he trying to overcompensate and regain control of his life after years of trauma and abuse. There is no point in the comics or movies where he is recovered in any meaningful capacity. Of course you can be attracted to fictional characters but it’s upsetting when his most sexualized quality is that he’s ‘bratty’. His anger issues are a trauma response and he isn’t like that at all when he’s comfortable. His characterization is that of a broken man dragging his way through life and realizing it’s ok to find comfort in other people. Sure, he’s witty and clever and furries love him but the fact that I’ve seen comments on Rocket art like “he’s such a power bottom omg…” when it’s not even suggestive makes me want to throw up.

Now the weird part of this post

I see the characters I kin as not only real people, but as facets of myself. When I personally see Rocket sexualized, it feels like an attack on ME. Rocket is genuinely one of the things that kept me from ending it for so long. I developed severe maladaptive daydreaming to cope with being bullied for being queer in the Deep South. For many years i promised myself I’d survive to see gotg vol 3. I’ve found such deep comfort and solace in him that the way I think and process things often connects to him. His personality molded to me and has stuck. He is me. Of course not literally; I know full well he’s just a character; but his story and his motivations and how he is as a person reflects myself so deeply I find it hard to separate where he ends and I, myself, begin.

I’ve heard that the character you relate to the most is how you see yourself; and that is fully true here. Me and him are just trying to gain control of our lives and make it through without relapsing. Even though I’m not an alien lab experiment or badass bounty hunter; I feel for him. I often think of him as a little ghost in the back of my head, guiding me through my life and a trans and autistic person in a rough spot.

Of course, I can’t and won’t stop anyone from liking what they like. I just wanted to share my experiences with Rocket and how much he truly means to me :)

(yes I should probably get real therapy yes I pirated every single gotg comic yes I own the plushie from Disney world yes I have thousands of headcannons that I’d love to share if anyone wants to hear them)

[allaboutlov3]

I got a random question for you ppl. Do you think James would have been able to forgive Peter if he had survived? Because in my head James is this loyal guy who’d die for his friends and trusts them with everything he has, with everything he is. But then again he also values honesty and loyalty and I think he couldn't even stand the thought of his friend betraying him like that. So how could he ever forgive him? But also how could he not? Because ppl make mistakes, right? He believes in that, too. He believes in second chances. Loyalty is such a big mess sometimes.

So what do you think? Would James have forgiven Peter (eventually) if he had survived that night?

[derseprinceoftbd]

Question; is it racist to kin a Japanese character if I'm not Japanese?

[windupaidoneus]

i dont really care to find out what ppl i have blocked say on their blogs bc as a bitcher i prefer to just randomly remember stuff & bitch about it then move on. otherwise i get told someones bragging about having people spying on & stalking others like its a gotcha & not a deeply worrying thing to say & i just shake my head in bafflement bc what

[soliusss]

>only referred to as a guy by every other character in universe

>even his abusive piece of shit father calls him his son

>mfs cant handle a boobed character being a whole ass dude I guess

[hildannette]

i am like what i’d call neutral slightly negative about rhea but if i’m gonna be honest if i were catberine i’d probably act like that about her too

[wolfsoulchild]

not one to be involved in a lot of Community Drama (trademarked)

but if you refuse to accept parts of community history and decide to spout nonsensical ideas about alterhumanity AND decide to be a gatekeeper...others have every right to correct you and you're incorrect. spouting elitist bullshit and then being corrected with sources that you disregard because "tRaNsSpEcIs iS tRaNsPhObIc" makes you look like an idiot lmao.

anyways. we're transspecies and transspecies alterhumans are very welcome here. we're also trans, and our gender is intertwined with all that. say no to people who use "your mom" unironically to rebuttle others like...educating you LOL.

go ahead and block me if you want, but I will forever stick up for alterhumans who get this shit thrown at them! this whole thing reeks of "species dysphoria is transphobia" shit. just because you don't ID with a label doesn't make it inherently wrong and incorrect. who knew lol

anywayssss transspecies folks you guys are safe here with these wolves! <3

sorry this sounds so mean but like...im so tired of this BS what the fuck dude. leave transspecies beings alone, we don't deserve it.

[littledead-ridinghood]

And the most important Jason Todd discourse starts anew: is he or is he not a Swiftie?

[sashannarcy]

idek how to phrase this but Marcy kinnies who just bitch all the time about Marcy's arc and say that it should've been written differently and that Marcy didn't deserve to be put through any of it, specifically including literally learning lessons about how to be a good person and conscientious of the people around them: you are the problem. you are the Marcys that need to learn lessons about life

[lesbian-cronus]

a ramble from a fictionhearted fishy

although i may tell the masses i’m a “kinnie”, it’s a little more complicated so lemme clue ya in! technically according to the otherkin community i’m what you’d call otherhearted, specifically fictionhearted, where i ain’t an alternate or reborn character but rather, a character strongly resonates with me. in my case the horrible pervert grease fish cronus! he’s a part of me… my gender, my identity, my expression. i ain’t him but.. he is me? i get genuine euphoria when i’m out n about rockin’ my ampora outfit, like i’m my true self! but not in a reborn sorta sense, more like.. in a queer way. it’s more than relating..it’s strong, and passionate, and makes me feels lotsa ways. i’d be so jazzed if i woke up with horns and fins and gills, i’d honestly cry. but i can live without ‘em, it’s a nice thought though…

yes cronus ampora is a piece of shit, but at some point so was i. but unlike act 6, my life goes on, and i continue to grow! so shoutout to any fellow kinnies, otherhearted or fictives of problematic or “bad” characters, you’re damn valid despite the source material.

anyways!! rather than say fictionhearted though, sayin’ “kinnie” gets the idea across way easier. plus it’s simpler! saying i kin cronus is way less confusing.. CAUSE DID YA SEE THIS DAMN SPEECH. no disrespect to otherkin/therian folk! jus’ wanted to pour out my messy brain juices for all to see. and hopefully, someone out there can relate! cause hey, i see you, and i get it!! and remember, you’re cool as fuck!

[gibbearish]

anon im not gonna post that one, not bc of anything you said dw, im just not 100% sure if we are thinking of the same person bc i havent been paying attention if the posts i saw all came from the same op, and even tho there's no names in either of our things i still wouldnt feel comfortable spreading that w/o having seen it firsthand. that being said, in the event that we are: jesus fuck???

[diagonal-queen]

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anyway i couldn't think of colors :< but us !! kind of looking like cupcakes i guess

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[tempertyzias]

consider this wagon. banded