#omni gay

[doomsdayradio]

i love you mspec lesbians and bi lesbians and pan lesbians and omni lesbians and ply lesbians and abro lesbians and mspec gays and bi gays and pan gays and omni gays and ply gays and abro gays and mspec straights and bi straights and pan straights and omni straights and ply straights and abro straights and abros and gaybians and lesboys and trans man lesbians and turigirls and trans woman gays and enbyhets and aplatonics/aplspecs

[bi-lesbian]

[rouge-the-bat]

happy pride reminder mspec lesbians and gays are the coolest (proof: i am one)

[genderqueerdykes]

to make things a bit easier to digest, homosexuality and bisexuality are not mutually exclusive. they are not two different tick boxes you can only choose 1 of. homosexuality is a part of the bisexual/multispectrum experience, not something existing outside of it. not every bisexual identifies as experiencing homosexual attraction, but bisexual gays and lesbians are naturally a thing because homosexuality and lesbianism are a part of the bisexual experience

[ollie-garden]

btw i love lesboys and turigirls and mspec gays/lesbians. i love everyone who uses a "contradictory" label i am telepathically sending you every single good thing ever

[pupiipawzz]

you aren’t doing the lgbtq+ community a favor by “kicking” out fellow members, btw.

[yourfavismspechomohet]

love, there’s no such thing as a “bi lesbian.” someone can’t be bi and a lesbian. Coming from a lesbian myself it just doesn’t happen that way. Being a bisexual means that you like BOTH, being a lesbian means you ONLY like non men. It’s a mockery of real lesbians, it’s not a real sexuality.

Let’s take this apart separately, shall we?

“There’s no such thing as a Bi Lesbian”

Tell that to all the Bi Lesbians that follow me, and like my posts, and request for posts.

Tell that to the Bi Lesbians I reblog from and talk to occasionally.

Tell that to the older queers that identify as Bi Lesbians.

I guess apparently they don’t exist then. 🤷

“Someone can’t be Bi and a Lesbian”

Ah, this is a very popular one on this blog that I keep getting. I could link you to those, but I won’t. Here’s some ways you can be Bi and a Lesbian at the same time:

Biromantic Homosexuals

Homoromantic Bisexuals

Bi people who label themselves as Lesbians, to reclaim queer history. Because ALL Sapphics, regardless of if they were attracted to men or not, were referred to as Lesbians.

Bi people may also label themselves as Lesbians to reclaim being called a Lesbian by Biphobes trying to get them to pick one.

Bi people who lean more towards women, may call themselves Bi Lesbians.

Abroromantics/Abrosexuals may label themselves as Bi Lesbians because their orientation only swings back and forth between those two.

“Coming from a Lesbian myself, it just doesn’t happen that way.”

Well, for the second part, “It doesn’t happen that way”, just go back to the previous comments on “Someone can’t be Bi and a Lesbian”. It does and can happen.

Now for the first part “Coming from a Lesbian myself”. I hear this a lot. Not just from Lesbians, not just from queer people, but people of all different communities, one thing I hear all the time is “Coming from a [Blank] myself”. You need to understand that you are not the only Lesbian on earth. And Lesbians are not a hive-mind. You’re not all the same, and you’re not all going to have the same opinions. If that were the case, all Lesbians would look, talk, act the same way, and have the same views. But you don’t, because you’re not a hive-mind. Simply implying that all people of the same sexuality should have the same opinions is wrong. Believe it or not, I’ve seen all different kinds of lesbians who were Pro-Mspec Lesbian, who were Anti-Mspec Lesbian, and were neutral on Mspec Lesbians. And if all Lesbians had the same opinions, you would not be separated on these different opinions.

“Being a bisexual means that you like BOTH, being a lesbian means you ONLY like non men.”

Being Bi means that you could just about like any gender. It doesn’t just mean both, as in men and women. Bi people could definitely just be attracted to women and men, but they’re also Bi people attracted to all different kinds of genders under the Nonbinary umbrella.

As for being a Lesbian, it means that you’re attracted to women and Nonbinary people. And if we can agree on that, we also have to agree that there are other Nonbinary genders where one identifies as a woman AND a man, that you may also be attracted to. Saying that Lesbians don’t like men excludes Multigender people. Even if that’s not how you mean for it to sound, I can tell you that a lot of Multigender people feel that way.

Also, a common misconception is that Non-Men and Non-Women is okay to use for Gay and Lesbian definitions. It’s not. What you probably didn’t know, is that the terms have racist origins. Black and indigenous queer people have literally been talking about this since this definition was coined. “Non-Men” and “Non-Women” are terms that have been historically used to describe the degendering of black people.

Forcing these terms for queer definitions is Anti-Black, I could forgive you if you didn’t know that and stop using those definitions after now knowing the origins.

But if you still use these definitions even after knowing this, congratulations! You’re racist! Pretty sure there was a book about this, “Bad faith and anti-black racism” by Lewis R. Gordon.

“It’s a mockery of real lesbians, it’s not a real sexuality.”

Mspecs have just as big a part in Lesbian history as Lesbians.

All sapphics were Lesbians regardless of if they liked men.

The term “Bi Lesbian” has been around since the 70s. I’d like to see you try and tell an older queer Bi Lesbian, that they’re “mocking” Lesbians and that their sexuality isn’t real. They probably accomplished more than you have in your entire life, because you want to fight with people on queer labels that you think are and aren’t valid because apparently no queer identity is acceptable unless you agree with it.

Love, wether you like it or not, Bi Lesbians and even male Lesbians have always existed and will continue existing. And they don’t need your permission to be themselves.

[januscorner]

Meeting other queer people irl made me realize how irrelevant online queer discourse is. My teacher was nonbinary and gay, no one cared. A girl in the hospital was a lesbian who liked guys, no one in the group of mainly cishetallos even batted an eye. Don’t let online discourse get you down because in the real world people don’t care.

[loveasappho]

hello mogai radinclus community!!

im making this post in order to get some answers to my questions! im currently doing research about various topics, and today im going to start with: good faith identities and contradictory labels!!

so my question is; What do you consider to be good faith identities and contradictory labels?

im genuinely only making this post because i cant find ANY resources about them, so i'll probably make my own definition resource rentry, so i need a lot of opinions :3 if you are going to reblog and answer, please be specific with your answer!! please and thank you!! and also, you can talk about your own experiences with complex gender/orientation/etc as well !!

For example, I personally consider good faith identities the following:

Good faith identities and Contradictory Labels can include:

Mspec Monos such as Mspec Lesbians/Gays/Bis/Straights (but not limited to them)

Sapphileans, Gaybians

queerhets, cisqueers (including straightbians/straightvincians, etc)

afab transfem and amab transmasc (of any sex)

Lesboys/Lesbois

Turigirls/Veldigirls

and many more!!

perhaps you can add non-lesbian butches/futches/femmes and non-gay bears/twinks/otters/etc ??

tag list for reach & boost! you are more than free to ignore!! i will only tag those who are openly pro good faith and contradictory labels!!

-> @genderstarbucks @neopronouns @haunted-thing @caeliangel @sage-writes-n-coins-mogai (i cant find anyone else DAMN)

even if you're not tagged and you're seeing this, feel free to reblog and respond!!

i could've never guessed tagging people would be so stressing

[mx-t4t0]

Anyways that post was stupid and if you're scared of complex labels you should take your ass back to hermittwt. Inner community queer discourse will be the death of us all and no one likes a cop <3

I made these out of spite and also out of love for all your mono-mspec and funny gender grian needs 👍

Mspec Gay / Mspec Lesbian

Bi Gay / Bi Lesbian

Pan Gay / Pan Lesbian

Poly Gay / Poly Lesbian

Omni Gay / Omni Lesbian

Turigirl / Lesboy

Grian can be any of these, but he especially loves and supports all queer identities <3

[bigayasuka]

Part 2 to this post

Omni gay || omni lesbian

Poly gay || poly lesbian

Abro gay || abro lesbian

[sapphic-boy]

Biflexible and omniflexible flags with the gay guy and lesbian flags plus a bonus of all three

[aholotte]

There’s an mspec gay week? I didn’t know that! Anyways

I love you mspec gays I love you bi gays I love you pan gays I love you omni gays I love you ply gays I love you trans mspec gays I love you female mspec gays I love you aspec mspec gays I love you bear mspec gays I love you twink mspec gays I love you butch mspec gays I love you femme mspec gays I love us we are so kool

[joestarkisser]

Hey m-spec gays and lesbians did you know... your F/O is inclusive and respects your "weird" or "bad" queer identity.. it's true... they just told me about it....

[yourfavismspechomohet]

@e-upe

A Bi Lesbian can be someone who is:

1. Biromantic Homosexual

2. Homoromantic Bisexual

3. It can be someone who fits under a Bi definition, but labels themselves as a Lesbian. (One of the many reasons for this is because all sapphics used to be called Lesbians.

4. An Abroromantic/Abrosexual whose identity constantly switches back and forth between being Bi and being a Lesbian.

So, yes, it is entirely possible to be both Bi and a Lesbian.

You calling me homophobic when the whole point of homophobia is to be someone who dislikes ANY and ALL queer people is ironic, because it awfully sounds like YOU’RE the one who’s homophobic.

Bashing on ANY queer identity, even the ones you don’t like, is homophobia. Exclusionists and gatekeepers don’t belong in the LGBTQIA+ Community.

In your tags you also said “LGB drop the T”, so it looks like you’re really living up to you being exclusionary. One of the first people who ended up giving us Pride Month was Marsha P. Johnson who was a Trans rights activist.

You also implied that I was straight in the tags, like it or not, but there are other queer people that are allies to Mspec Lesbians not including Mspec Lesbians.

And the term “Bi Lesbian” has been around since the 90s and maybe even longer than that.

Also comparing Queer identities that you don’t like to Nazi’s and KKK is gross. Because you sound like the same people who compare queer people to pedophiles or zoophiles.

Mspec Lesbians people are not pushing out Lesbians and Bi people, they’re trying to find a place in this community to fit in. JUST like how queer people tried to do with straight people. All queer identities INCLUDING ones that you don’t like is homophobia, and it doesn’t make you any better than straight homophobes just because you’re also queer. This community started as ALL queer people loving ALL queer people. Exclusionary is so stupid and defeats one of the most important reasons on why Pride exists. Because Queer people are supposed to support each other.

To deconstruct gender, you must also deconstruct sexuality.

[ijustwannamakeemojis]

[ID: Three small pixel hearts of the following flags, Bi lesbian, omni gay, and alt omni gay flag by neopronouns. End ID]