okay i know I hate discourse but…
i think the thing that people don’t get about mspec lesbianism is that they think it’s just a synonym for mspec. they think bi lesbians is just another word for bi women. but it’s NOT.
a majority of bi women aren’t lesbians, and a majority of lesbians aren’t bi. the whole confusion is that people think we’re trying to completely change the meaning of both labels. they think bi women are calling themselves lesbians because they’re attracted to women and for no other reason.
but that just literally is not what is happening. i am not a bi lesbian because I’m wlw. I’m not a bi lesbian because i am bi and like girls. I’m a bi lesbian because there’s a lot of complexity and nuance to my identity that doesn’t exist for a lot of other people. by and large, most bi lesbians I’ve met have been more than willing to acknowledge that perception and community surrounding the lesbian label HAVE shifted. and there IS a lot more emphasis on lack of attraction to men now and that is PERFECTLY FINE! bi lesbians aren’t trying to redefine anything. they’re just acknowledging that they deserve labels for their nuance as much as people who have it more figured out do. i deserve a label that makes me happy just as much as the girls who have never questioned their lesbianism.
if you stop going into queer discourse with the view that people are out here with malicious intent, purposefully trying to hurt others with their identities, and instead realize that we have thought about and analyzed our identities more in the past hour than you ever could have in your lifetime, that we are not trying to steal but to share, then the world of queerness will open up for you.
it’s like… blue and purple are different colors. they appear distinct on the outside. and most blues have no purple in them and vice versa. and yet, there’s also indigo and violet and lavender. and none of these change the fact that blue and purple for the most part are distinct colors. sure, purple has elements of blue in it by default, but it is still its own color that can have overlap sometimes.
queer identities aren’t math equations. it’s not “one scenario breaking the mold invalidates the whole scenario” because queerness has room for an infinite amount of nuance and different scenarios. bi lesbian does not mean bi woman. it simply means that not everyone fits as cleanly into the mold and it’s okay to blend colors sometimes if you don’t belong on the current spectrum.
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Staying Safe in MOGAI and LIOM Communities - 'Safequeer'
The term safequeer is going around - it is a huge dogwhistle for exclusionists
These are the flags associated with the term ^ the waterlily is claimed to be their symbol
The movement claims to care about 'safety' and the protection of disabled people, queer people, and POC - it misuses the critinclus label and is an exclusionist movement
Safequeer advocates against:
Any use of transabled, trace, or transage
Endos/Tulpas - the movement is blatantly anti-endo and anti-tulpa
Paraph1lias and proshippers - the creator misdefines what being pro-para is as well as what being proship is, whilst we are not proship at all it's still important to fight back against blatant misinfo. They define pro-para/paraph1lia as such: "A term used to defend zphilia, pphilia, nphilia, etc". This is blatant misinfo as the term pro-para works to support those with these paras, not encourage acting upon them. Proship is defined in a fearmongering way - in reality it's just a term for those that are okay with or support the ability to ship any kind of relationship in fiction, the creator defines it as "someone who supports shipping pphilia, inc3st, or abus3 as well as drawn [bad child material]", which is just reaching and trying to make them look 'worse'
'Harmful identities', where it claims lesboys/turigirls and mspec lesbians/gays are harmful - simply put, it's exclusionism
Transandrophobia truthers - the movement actively disbelieves in any transphobia directly aimed at transmasculine individuals, and claims any understanding of that is transmisogyny
This movement considers itself to be anti-exclusionist and critical inclusionist based, it is not
@mogai-sunflowers We felt it was important you saw this term if you haven't already, as it actively misuses your label /g
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