#plural help

[legion-of-the-ptousis-archon]

does anyone have any advice for talking to your sysmates about feeling ignored. because i've been having a lot of issues with being treated like a prop and i'm really fucking sick of it.

[infwctednyacifier]

Tips for systems who have alters with those sources

Listen, we've all interacted systems who have alters from those sources at least once. Y'know the ones; sources that aren't so kind.

This can be a struggle for those in said system as it can distress the system and other's due to the alter's source being upsetting. This post is for those system who have said alters and, more specifically, some tips to help or encourage the alter to disconnect from the source. Tips below cut!

1. Discussion ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

First, talk with them. Tell them what makes their source problematic/distressing. Make sure they know that their source and their identity is an upsetting topic and why it's best that they change how they view the source and that they should disconnect from the source and develop a new, separate identity that isn't their previous one.

It's best to think this over beforehand and possibly write/type it down and finalize it before actually saying it. Don't be too aggressive and try to keep the tone neutral as to not make the alter feel pressured or like they need to defend themselves.

2. Support ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

Changing their identity can be very difficult as they are essentially abandoning everything about themselves which can be distressing and upsetting. It's best to make sure that they know that they have a 24/7 support system and that they can ask questions if they need help or are stuck on how to shift into an entirely different person.

3. Identity ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

Help them look at terms for genders, orientations, etc to help them figure out what to identify as while turning into this new and improved version of themself. Use their interests and features to find neopronouns that they could possibly use. Browse multiple communities beyond gender and orientation; such as the nonhuman community.

4. Avoiding ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

Help them avoid things that relate to their source such as others from that same source, content from that source, etc. Specify publicly that people should avoid certain topics and that it could harm their recovery progress. If people insist on interacting with you and bringing up the source, immediately block them; If they can't acknowledge boundaries then they won't be acknowledged at all.

Hope this helps!!! If anybody needs any specific tips, I'm more than happy to help as your Tumblr big brother(s)!!!!!!! My inbox and messages are open 24/7 <3

[slipery-bastard]

Hi is it like. Normal for a fictive to spawn right after watching a show

[toomuchambition]

Plural tip for systems that track fronts; be lenient on tracking who may be active. Like, this is your brain, not the tax office. You don't have to perform a bunch of extremely specific checks just to make sure a headmate is truly active; you can just acknowledge their presence in whatever form that may take. Trust that they'll talk to you if they want something, and just let yourselves be. Even if they don't do anything, it still gives them history. Your headmates will appreciate having a place in your system's history, even if they don't remember exactly what they did or said in every single instance.

And even your front history isn't entirely accurate? They'll likely still appreciate that you think about them.

[the-cat-collective]

We've been harassed by 3 separate members of r/systemscringe that frequently posted there. twice on our old tumblr account and once on r/xenogendersandmore. one of those people was the owner. we are very much, aggressively, against them and always will be. we absolutely hate them. they just go harassing minors and fakeclaiming everyone over stupid stuff. hell we saw a system get fakeclaimed for being a minor and claiming to be polyfrag + intersex. because it's "too ""rare"" to be true" or whatever.

but recently we think we split someone who seems to be obsessing over whether or not we've gotten posted there. not in a "have we been fakeclaimed? are we even valid way" but in a "searching for a dopamine hit from arguing online or seeing people hate our existence" and it's getting annoying. we have OCD so that explains them obsessing over that. but it's still annoying and at this point borderline (if not actually) harmful. so. does any system here have tips on how to deal with this? like to at least distract them from checking that subreddit and all?

[thenowheresys]

..... What's the difference between negative experiences and trauma?? Like aren't they both bad. Sorry I'm lowkey dumb and like holy shit GRAHHHH NOOOO I THINK I MAY BE SOMEONE NEW. So off topic, anyways yeah

[archangelscoven]

that moment when you see a plurality related post, in this case DID specific, and it highlights both very real positives and negatives of having DID that from what you know are extremely legit and want to reblog it but the tags show nothing on any endo stance, so you have to check both blogs with the posts and find out both are anti endo. You still want to reblog the post, but you feel nervous to even though you're not endogenic and don't know if you'll get direct hate from whoever gets notified if you do reblog just for supporting endos and all other system origins, or if you'll just get quietly blocked, which is fine, but will you still be able to see the post even though you reblogged it? You don't know.

Written in second person but genuinely idk what I should do here if I should REBLOG it anyways and just hope I'm completely ignored by anyone notified by the reblog or just quietly save it for ourselves privately and not directly interact at all. Please help, idk if anyone will see this but if you do and have advice please tell me your thoughts.

— blurry front

[starfilled-galaxy]

Need help/advice??

So we have a new guy but he's like in a super weird state regarding awareness of being in a system and I have no clue how to help him…? He logically is aware of plurality and stuff but he's also suuuuper connected to his exomems and stuff so… I think logically he knows he's a fictive in a system and the place he's in is a plural headspace, but he doesn't fully understand that?

Based on how he is at the moment (and for the foreseeable future), I don't think it would be possible (or helpful? idk it feels like it might make things worse) to try to get him to understand that he's "just an introject" and have him source separate and such But he's also having a really hard time comprehending that there's (fictives of) other versions of him, and just in general where he is (since our headspace looks pretty fantasy-esc) He's almost entirely convinced he's asleep and dreaming, or got drugged or something It's also making him uncomfortable and just… confused in general

Sorry lots of yapping, I'm tired, some of this might not make sense lol But yeah I don't know what would help him be less confused and weirded out when he either doesn't have the ability or the mental stability to understand the whole plurality thing right now

ANTI ENDOS DO NOT INTERACT!!!!

NOTE: We see exomems and our headspace in a more metaphysical way, as if they are real memories/places (because they are to us). We would like you to keep that in mind, please do not invalidate our beliefs. Talking about this psychologically is fine but we'd like you to not use medical or heavily psychological-based terms (i.e. parts language, "pseudomemories," etc)

(sorry for putting this long ass note at the end, we had bad experiences with the last time we asked for plural advice on tumblr, so you know)

[attentionneedyqueen]

hi, separate anon here! i’ve been considering coming out as a system, but i’m worried about being fake claimed. do you have any tips?

OMG???? I don't think I've ever gotten an ask like this before??? I'm honored! Handling fakeclaiming online and offline may be very different, so keep in mind that I'll mainly be talking about online fakeclaiming!

Who fakeclaims?

Anti Endos, Sysmeds, and anyone associated with r/systemcringe are all groups who are based around/on fakeclaiming. Anti Willogenic/Tulpa stances as well.

Prevention

It's important to note that it is NOT your fault if you get fakeclaimed. You shouldn't make yourself palatable for ANYONE. If you follow this advice and you still get fakeclaimed, that is not your fault nor will it ever be your fault. Truth is that you can never truly prevent being fakeclaimed since fakeclaiming is apart of ableism. You will be fakeclaimed because people are ableist, NOT because you're too much x or not y enough.

Block the following tags:

anti endo

future is singlet

endos dni

non traumagenic dni

any variants

Remember to block as you encounter

Id recommend surrounding yourself with people who support you and really curating your own experience would help a lot! Any negativity you may experience gets drowned out easier when you remember people like you.

Dealing with Fakeclaiming

Being comfortable in what being a system means to you helps a lot along with being confident on why you use the labels you do (if you use any). If the building is sturdy, no storm can knock it down completely!

I get fakeclaimed on a pretty much near basis because I don't like sugarcoating how much I love being a plural system. When I'm fronting, it's super easy to brush off because I'm sure of my reasons for why I make the posts I do and why I use labels like endogenic, attengenic, etc!

But also keep in mind your own limits. It's okay if fakeclaiming gets to you or makes you feel unsure. You're not weak or any less of a system for being affected by it. If dealing with Fakeclaiming wasn't tough— and it IS tough— then people wouldn't be worried about subreddit and cringe comps.

Laugh at fakeclaiming when you can. Make a joke out of hate anons because let's be honest, you might get some...interesting ones

Remind yourself that your plurality isn't commentary on others experiences. Sometimes you hate something about being a system someone else loves and that's okay! Sometimes it's vice versa.

Remember, Fakeclaiming is ableism , it's also ultimately denial. Fakeclaiming exsists to shut people up about their experiences, especially if they think it's out of the norm or what is considered "healthy" or "okay". Fakeclaiming with never be righteous

And if it turns out you're not actually a system or don't consider yourself one or you want final fusion, that doesn't mean they're right! The experience was still real and so was your experience as a system.

And when you can't handle it on your own, talk to friends or family or anyone you trust really. Join a system community on Tumblr and post about your worries there if they allow it! It's okay to get bothered or upset

Best of luck, dearest anon, I hope you decide whether or not coming out is right for you🩷🩷🩷 no matter the decision, I'm sure it'll be wonderful 🩷🩷🩷

[infwctednyacifier]

Tips for a singletsona

So, if you're unaware, systems tend to have what is called a 'singletsona'; basically, it's a persona that is the system as a 'singlet' or someone who isn't multiple rats in a human skin suit.

You wanna make one? Well, I have just the thing for you and it's short, brief, and under this cut!

1. Discuss ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

First of all, talk about it. Do you want a singletsona or not? Not everybody wants to make a persona that's just some average guy and this is a group project–All hands need to be on deck. Alright, you all agreed you want a singletsona? Then go to #2!

2. Names ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

You don't have to choose on only one name and can go by multiple names or nicknames since it really doesn't matter. You can also use a name generator, combine the names of the system, or simply choose a gender neutral name to encompass the gender of every member of the system. Got the name? Go to #3!

3. Gender ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

Alright, now, you need to decide on gender. Not everybody in a system is going to identify as male, female, or other. There's some that identify as one, some that identify as many, and some that identify as none. Sit down and find what genders you all similarly identify as. Alternatively, just make them genderfluid or genderflux. Decide on pronouns that the majority agree with or are fine with being referred to, as well as gendered terms (masculine, neutral, feminine) that you all want to identify as. You got it? Alright, onto #3!

4. Sexuality ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

Now, what genders are the majority attracted to? Male? Female? Other? Decide on one that everybody can agree that they'd want to date. This can be one gender or multiple genders, it all depends on the result of the discussion. Now, #4!

5. Style ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

So, let's talk fashion. What are items of clothing you can all say you like? What are certain articles of clothing you DON'T like? What accessories do you all take a liking to? Etc, etc. The main point is to just make sure everybody's on board with this specific style and the certain pieces of clothing and certain accessories. Done? Go to #5!

6. Issues ‧₊˚⊹‧₊˚⊹

You got physical issues? Mental issues? Add them to your singletsona. You can discuss this with your system or just throw them at your singletsona–Except for the plurality disorders, since it'd make them no longer a singlet. Other than that, everything else can just be thrown into the pot and stirred.

Now you've got a singletsona! Enjoy the little one identity loser.

[sterrnenkiind]

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[the-orange-solace]

Somethiing that allows us to heal as a system is writing interactions that happen in headspace or place into words what we're doing as individual people and how that affects others

It's similar to a diary, which we also have, but more narrative

Here's an example from one of our recent entries that embody the two types pretty well:

“You haven’t eaten. The body is fatigued.”  Silence.  “Bakugo threatens to force feed you,” Shadow continues, arms crossed naturally upon his chest, the white puffs of his fur hugging the limbs, thick and fluffy for the winter.  Atreus senses remnants of adoration and affection from afar regarding the change in look. They smile softly at another’s emotions as their own spike of anxiety burns the back of the reincarnate’s throat. “There isn’t anything he can make right now.”  “There is plenty,” Shadow reasons, images of ramen, eggs and seasonings appearing in their mind's eye. 

Guilt washes over Atreus, their eyes boring holes into the circular wooden table before them, Shadow watching them intently as images flicker of well cooked meals, soups and rice before they promptly disappear. Shadow says nothing about the quick closing of their imagery-based communication, an action much too common much to everyone’s chagrin when interacting with their Warden about anything regarding themselves.  Though, it frankly makes reading them easier at times. It was all pattern and recognition, the endless repeating tells. The lack of their bird-like features, hidden away so no one could gaze at their uncared for state, their lack of eye contact and words easily testaments to bubbling shame, guilt, and fear, tense body ridged from unease, frustration and stress.  It wasn’t new, unfortunately. But the light banter and response meant it wasn’t as bad as it could be. Such times usually meant that no one could reach them, find them. Headspace and their abilities intertwined more tightly than Atreus would ever admit outloud, shielding everyone from them while continuing to bare everyone else's' existences.  They didn’t seem to know it consciously either, only adding to the struggles to reach the avian, though never entirely fruitless. Atreus was quick to ease others, even if it meant taking care of themselves to pleasing someone else, to place less of themselves on others shoulders. 

Usually, placing interactions, events, feelings, and our thoughts into words like this (if not poetry for some of us) helps build stronger connections with each other and understand one another much more intimately

A lot gets lost in our brain, but when it's solidified into something like this, it is much less likely to escape our memory or be brushed off

Perhaps this can help someone else or another system?

[thecovenofcrows]

new thing we’re trying out for our system

we’re calling them “Please do not front” or “DNI” songs.

basically we each assign ourself one and when that song is playing we don’t front.

this could be for many reasons, such as; a headmate is handling a subject that another is sensitive to, a headmate leaving front because they’re not doing well and needing reminders in case they forget and try to front again, someone else needing to hold front, etc.

they basically just act as a warning, not everyone has one yet but those who do are as follows;

Vesper - // Daddy Issues \\

Nikki - // Nothing’s new \\

and I think some1 else has one but I can’t remember who (-Nikki)

(Edit from Ves):

Luka - // The Ballad of Jane Doe \\

[legion-of-the-ptousis-archon]

hmm. we've been retheming a lot of our accounts lately, and we've wanted to update our sys theme for a while too ... we want to really lean into our demon/fallen angel kin but we need to think on it more lol. maybe change the sys name too idk

[nova-as-a-star-cluster]

I feel as if there's like multiple people within my head but I'm the only one controlling the body so I know I'm probably not a system, but I'm genuinely lost on what it could be because they have such strong presences

i mean like, 99% sure some systems dont switch at all so yk. the possibility’s still there!

not an expert on those kinds of systems tho, ‘specially considering how fronting for us works lolol

-void⚫️

[creepykrawlies]

I've realised/finally admitted to myself that I'm plural, birthsystem we think.. still trying to figure things out, I want to use this blog to work through this and would love some other systems to talk to!

As far as we know theres 3 of us but I only know two of us for now.. being the host and Kangel/Ame fictive !