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My thoughts on the race changing discourse.



What made me inclined to making this post. Well it all started with my shifter friend sending me a post earlier from another shifter on shiftok. Now I donât associate with shiftok for many reasons that most of the shifting community avoids it. However I just wanted to share a few pointers from this post and another perspective of this discussion. ďżź
FROM THE ORIGINAL POSTER
you're not being expansive. you're just being harmful.
and these displays of hubris show up most in the way y'all behave when it comes to simple boundaries. the moment someone says
"hey, that's not okay," it's met with deflection, dismissal, or that tired ass excuse: "but in infinite realities, this reality's morals don't matter."
IDGAF! killing innocents is wrong! incest is wrong! race changing is wrong! pedophilia is wrong! fetishizing trauma is wrong! when you promote it, you're just showing your ass as someone who hasn't shifted because if you had? you'd have actually understood the fucking implications of coming online and ADMITTING that you, in real life, did any of these atrocities or agree with them KNOWING what it's like to live there! you'd know just how vile, insidious, and deeply unserious you sound.
and imma get into how this shit is wrong in another post, y'all gon my ass today
Something I wanted to unpack in this particular paragraph is the comparison between each category she mentioned. However both are morally wrong. Regardless of reality you partake in and the consequences. From my own understanding of this matter, it seems thereâs shifters amongst the community arenât in a unanimous agreement with this discussion. Itâs either the opposing side of shifters like this person for example.
Or itâs the side actively participating in it. For their own reasons rather itâs inherently in a harmful matter. Or In secrecy which excludes them from receiving the backlash from the opposing side. Lastly you have middle ground that doesnât necessarily agree with race changing but doesnât particularly have that much of an issue with it.
Now what are my own personal thoughts? where do I fall in these categories. Well I fall in the category of bias. I donât particularly have an issue with it. However I do understand and sympathize with poc shifters and knowledge their frustration on the issue and even betrayal they might harbor for shifters who actively participate in it. Especially if itâs poc shifters. However if the shifter doesnât fetishize the cultural aspect of it or the specific group of the marginalized group.
They are willing to educate themselves. As well as validate poc shifters that find their actions deplorable and unacceptable. Itâs only right to recognize it and accept they feel that way for their own personal reasons. Other poc shifters like myself wonât exactly penalize shifters for it. In fact we might look at it from nuance perspective with the âthereâs infinite realities that exist and outweigh our limitations we are the universeâ approach of the argument. Thatâs how I genuinely look at it from that perspective. Spreading awareness about the importance of educating other shifters is completely harmless.
There are ways to go about it without aggression, arrogance and moral superiority. Because thereâs also the group of shifters that might not understand the harm itâs causing. Perhaps itâs a younger adolescent, would it truly be the right approach to bombard them with profanity and hatred because they werenât fully educated on the subject? Would that cause them to be more inclined to to be open minded and consider the feelings of the shifter thatâs against race changing? Or would they simple disregard their feelings and go about it in rebellious manner because of the tone of the message?
If you truly want to educate shifters TONE matters. If you want your discomfort and concerns to be addressed. Listen to your tone of your voice and your message. Frustration is valid, betray is valid but hatred, vindictiveness and hostility isnât.
-FROM ORIGINALLY POSTER
fracism doesn't exist in your DR- great it's been long eradicated in
alrof mine. but you still brought yourself there. this version of you. the one raised in a world where race impacts safety, freedom, and dignity. so when you choose to "change races", what you're really doing is sidestepping the pain of our lived experiences while cherry-picking our features for your fantasy. and you may say "no, no it's not like that"-but it is. you just refuse to open your eyes to it. and no, it doesn't matter that "it doesn't impact us here* because you coming online promoting it does. your choices are not insular. your beliefs impact this community. and spewing around your poison will get somebody burned.
so when shifters of color tell you, "please don't wear my skin. please don't romanticize an identity you've never had to survive," and you respond with, "fuck off infinite realities exist!" or "but this poc doesn't mind." you're not just being dismissive.
you're being racist.
because what you're saying is "my desire outweighs your dignity". you're saying, "ÂĄ don't care what you've lived through-as long as I get to feel special" and if "anything is possible" why is harm the first thing you choose?
listen when i tell you this- you don't get to shift out of responsibility. you don't get to silence voices you've never taken the time to listen
because if you truly believed in the infinite nature of reality, and not just fulfilling your own fantasies, you'd have imagined a version of yourself who knew better now.
Unfortunately Iâm one of the shifters that doesnât hyper focus on what others do in their drs. Unless it doesnât inherently have to do with murder, pedophilia, cheating on their s/oâs, backstabbing friends, committing crimes, being overall horrible people in their drs. The sad reality of it it, somebody is currently doing all the above in their drs.
Thereâs nothing I can do to stop them from their destructive nature and how they choose to use their abilities. I can spread awareness about it on how itâs morally wrong. As a shifter whoâs been through countless of traumatic events and experiences in my dr. Including witnessing my s/o getting brutally murdered in another reality. I canât stop shifters from scripting traumatic events in their drs. I can truly only worry about myself and my own shifting journey. As much I want to and have continued spreading awareness about it in separate shifting platforms. Itâs up to that individual to take it into consideration, if they choose not to Iâm not going to berate them for it.
Because that was their own decision with their own consequences as a result of it. My point is every single decision we make during our shifting journey is a learning lesson, none of us are perfect we all make mistakes. We donât deserve to be penalized and perceived as such unless itâs truly deserves that kind of response. Everyone is on this journey like the original shifter of this post. Thereâs no harm in educating people who maybe uneducated, if you canât educate the ones that refuse to be informed then donât associate with them. Donât waste your energy on them. Educate those who truly have that empathy and compassion for those who want their voice to be heard.
Thatâs all I wanted to say on the matter.
But I like to know anyone elseâs thoughts on it rather you are anti race changing, race changer yourself or simply meet in the biased category of this discussion.
#reality shifting#shifting community#shifting blog#shifting race changing#race changing discourse#poc shifter#shifting discourse#anti shifters dni
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Iâll just add this, but after pulling the story of underdogs as âwe donât have the fastest carâ that Lando even reinforced recently in an interview, after trying to paint redbull as cheaters (which isnât the case) to show themselves more legitimate (when the actual cheating was done by McLaren, or I guess âloopholeâ, but that still led to them having to change all of this rear wings, for those who still donât know about it), now the discourse of the fia is biased toward Max and helping him! is coming out.
Of course thatâs how any team can try to win the support of the public, but donât come talking about dirty tactics when your team is using it.
#f1#austin gp 2024#max verstappen#red bull racing#anti lando norris#anti mclaren#Iâll add these tags just for sure#the discourse just gets tiring at some point#if you want to blame someone blame the fia for its inconsistency#but I guess itâs just easier to use it as fuel for your hatred of a driver#anyone coming like âIâm trying not to be a Max haterâ or âsee he hasnât changedâ never has been once actually trying to like him
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re: lando norris, starbucks, F1 and boycotts
the first rule of Formula 1 is understanding these privileged men do not give a shit. they partake in the most elite sport there is, where only 20 people can do it at a time. it's a bubble of money and luxury they thrive whitin.
just don't put anyone on a pedestal or your hand on fire for any of them. not even the ones that seem like the good ones.
personally, I expect the bare minimum of no homophobia, no racism, no sexual misconduct or assault. but I do not expect them to care about world problems as strongly as we do. bc if all went to shits they will run to a safe mansion, and we'll be the ones left to survive.
embrace fandom and friendships, the fun of the races and the drama, sharing gifs and fics and edits, and put THAT above your favorite driver!
#eveytime a driver i like has a bad race i think it's the universe keeping the balance and humiliating this hot millionaire#formula 1#f1#text post#lando norris#like the level is so low i dont even expect them to be faithful partners to the WAGs đ#not even seb and lewis are safe from this btw#i say this so ppl dont upset themselved too much abt them#NOT defending the drivers at all#i wish it wasnt like this but the elitism of the sport has only gotten WORSE so....#no hope for change anytime soon :/#charles leclerc#max verstappen#lewis hamilton#george russell#discourse
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how do i say this without getting jumped....... i do think the movies miss something in not emphasising the racial/ethnic divisions in district 12 but i also don't understand people who constantly claim that any description of "olive skin" means non-white person.
#i think racial and ethnic distinctions are made up obviously but that's particularly obvious when we discuss olive skin#like to me as a white australian i've always thought that's used to describe like....... italians?#and greek people like mediterranean people in general. MAYBE middle eastern.#but something i've learned from hunger games discourse is that to many americans that means native american and nothing else#again i do agree that the people of the seam are native/melungeon coded but that's a combination of traits#and also this is the future right so ideas about race have clearly changed#no one ever treats katniss and haymitch like they're a different race or ethnicity from peeta or maysilee the only group who get treated#as a different ethnic group are the covey which is also what burdock and katniss are (probably in addition to seam)#idk. it's interesting to me.#thg
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Everytime I see your Pat lolcalization posts, I can't help but think if this is him overcompensating for voicing the character of n*zi germany in the first seasons of the hetalia anime.
I can't say and I'd rather not say anything about Pat's intent or own agenda or whatever -
But the interesting "lolcalisation changes" and direction give to VAs really seem to favour a certain reading of the events happening in FE16 and to this day, I still can't understand how that managed to be released without getting at least some flak.
Sure Fates' lolcalisation is a tough nut to beat and nothing comes quite close to what happened to Fates to FE16/Nopes, and yet I wish I am joking when I say nearly 80% of the lines involving Supreme Leader and/or Rhea/the CoS should be double checked, because "Dany expy bringing a revolution" has to fit in the story that is FE16, and that's talking about the washed down version of Dany some people have and not the one who uses violence for the greater good, until she starts to realise that the "greater good" is as solid as smoke and runs away from the - well-intentioned ! - mess she created.
Again, I don't think anything was malicious with the lolcalisation Fodlan got, is it just a case of misunderstanding the game and slapping archetypes and "trendy notions" to make this "strange" game sell like hotcakes in your home market?
Or is it another case of "think of the children Susan" where Susan sure as hell can't endorse a character presented as the heroine sprout disgusting things and advocate for imperialism 101 so the heroine is now rewritten?
Or is it the lolcalisation team - after looking at the jp script - try to make the general idea of "you must feel bad for this character" somehow work, because they thought no one would seriously want to walk with her and feel any sort of sad uwus for the "you have pointy ears, you cannot rule over humans" red emperor? So they modified the script and directed the VA accordingly ?
IDK, but I think if you've been long enough on this blog you know my stance on localisation and lolcalisation but this discrepency between the two versions (or at least two audios) really took me by surprise when the game was released in 2019 lol
#anon#replies#to think Kikuko Inoue also voices Lust from FMAB#and since I've been playing BKO#Valara too!#Imagine Rhea calling Billy âghost boyâ lol#with a game whose writting is as consitent as cottage cheese#mischaracterising two major well characters#there was that poll sent to some gamers to ask if they understood the game lol#and it doesn't surprise me in the slightest#I'd say it played a lil part on the early 2019 discourse#of course peopled would have discoursed because projection 101 and draco in leather pants but#I love to use this argument but#let's say people wouldn't be as surprised at Halloween!Rhea baking cookies if Pat didn't tell Leigh bullcrap about how to play her characte#that's not only those two characters#iirc a friend noted that Shamir's lines about the church basically changes in Nopes#from benevolent and good to BaD in the lolcalisation#and that even extends to Engage with Dimitri's mention of people of different races existing together#why the need to soften Supreme Leader and erase her most nefarious traits? Was to sell the 'can you uwu with her' the devs failed to convey#the 'let's ride on Dany's hype and her fans disappointment before GOT becomes a dark memory' thing?#or personal bias injected bcs rl religion BaD so the game should say that too?#and Supreme Leader can provide a simple and power fantasy answer to people wondering about complicated issues?#idk anon idk
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i'm sorgy i'm still on it that stream was so embarrassing
#like thes was so right idont wanna hear jack from ppl who don't get the character who never watched the streams like ydont have a horse in#this race i fear. and idont wanna hear excuses like ohhhh the irlisms ok. you can distance yrself frm a story but just not writing for it#anymore. lol. like most cc ppl have been for the past how long it's been over.#is this what the fans of joker 1 felt like watching joker 2. like what was the point#whagever......it doesn't change my stances it doesn't affect how i see the story bcs it's genuinely so Nothing#so who cares. whatever#huri.txt#discourse
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u r sooo right about the red team blue team rivalry which is also what I thought about the aesthetics of some pictures of fabio q vs pecco in the last title fight races of 2021. pecco was so unsure back then and fabio had more natural talent and gumption and pecco seemed nervous and fabio seemed like he was having a good time and they made for good a narrative in their blue and red leathers.
we have only had four title fights this century between a blue team and a red team! and even that is me being generous by including 2007 - which imo counts because casey had to outscore valentino not dani at motegi to clinch the title and dani only nicked second in the championship off valentino at valencia. so yeah, four title fights: 2007, 2008, 2021, 2022. just isn't good enough
I will say by the END of 2021 pecco had mostly finished finding his feet and was winning a bunch of races, whereas fabio was less self-assured and more going 'yeah this title is nice but... uh...? guys we might be a bit fucked?' but. yeah. aesthetically their title fights were nice vibes! I was totally pro that rivalry conceptually! in practise, these aesthetics were let down somewhat by the absence of this little thing I like to call 'actually fighting on-track', which as a traditionally-minded viewer I do on occasion like to see in my title fights. like, valentino and casey's whole rivalry aesthetic was enhanced by how you have cool shots of them actually being, y'know, in the same shot



a selection from some of my favourite on-track battles of theirs during the time they were at ducati and yamaha respectively (minus assen 2007 + phillip island 2009 for obvious reasons). very nice distinct colour scheme, colours really popped, we know casey was paying attention to luminous yellow covering things and it's symbolically neat that one of 'valentino's colours' is on casey's bike (no, I do not care about what the australian flag looks like and indeed refuse to acknowledge the existence of 'australia'). also generally liked their helmets during that era, strong stuff all round
I've been thinking a fair bit lately about how this era compares to the other era this century that is generally associated with poor quality of racing, aka the alien era. the word that is commonly associated with those few years is 'processional', not unfairly... I think a refrain I see quite commonly is that some fans still have too much nostalgia for the alien era because they're only thinking of the laguna 2008's and catalunya 2009's of this world, not all the many many races of that era that weren't laguna 2008 or catalunya 2009. which is true! my general take is that the average race quality these last few years has been higher and there's often something interesting happening somewhere - you don't get the abysmal lows of the alien era quite so often. on the flip side, while the alien era certainly is associated with technical regulations that produced some poor racing... well, it did seem to at least be possible when all the stars aligned to have a duel that lasted for more than three corners. that used to be a thing even in the alien era. like it did happen
as much as I find the alien era deeply frustrating and agree with the general point that race quality these days doesn't plummet quite the same depths, I also think you need those highlights!! just to give people stuff to remember seasons by, stuff that lives on in years to come because it was just such a foundational cool memory. the current dearth isn't primarily the fault of the riders, but we have been pretty short on outright classics since end of 2019 - and the ones we have had tend to be more in the dogfight category of the typical phillip island mould than the race long duel. my sense is the current formula makes these even more impossible than 800cc did, which also weren't conducive to duels but at least didn't have this infernal tyre pressure crap week in week out that makes it impossible for riders to follow each other closely. also does feel like one of the real issues with increased homogeneity between the bikes... like casey/vale was kinda the motorcycling rivalry for babies because you knew that casey would have the edge in the straights and valentino would have the edge in the twisty bits. now a bike like the current ducati just has a way more balanced performance profile, and that's what everyone else is chasing. which. y'know. harder to be doing dramatic duels if you're all good in the same places
anyway, the point is that fabio and pecco had all the ingredients for a perfectly enjoyable rivalry... fabio as the more precocious one but also by 2021 a somewhat steadier performer, pecco cerebral but also volatile, self-critical to a fault. pecco's actually someone who I'd kill to see in a better version of this sport just for a bit, seeing as one of his biggest strengths as a rider is how excellent he is at defending - which would be nice to see tested more in races where that like... actually matters. they're both a little bit too nice and non-confrontational for my tastes, like you kinda worry any rivalry between them is destined to just be quite friendly, but there was still enough contrast in personalities and approaches to theoretically generate intrigue. plus, obviously, most importantly - they did have a red and blue colour scheme



while I'm generally a fan of dark colour schemes, I do feel like the white of the fiat yamaha era did allow the blue to pop a little more. and maybe it would've helped if the red had been a bit brighter to provide more contrast - I like both of these designs on their own, but together they do look a tad bleak. also my god have these bikes become massive
unfortunately, however, it comes back to the lack of memorable on-track battles. 2021 and 2022 were both kinda weird years, with pecco not really establishing himself as The Title Rival until quite late into 2021, and then 2022 being... y'know, a truly bizarre experience. they were never really good at the same time! didn't ever really hash it out for the win! even when they came close, like jerez/mugello 2022, it wasn't all that much of a fight... it's a shame - we know they're both theoretically capable of perfectly compelling on-track battles, they just never really did it with each other. pecco's had more good fights with jorge than with fabio, and that's also not exactly happening at the rate I'd like
in conclusion. it is time to bring back red vs blue sports contests. let us return to this


and the only way to do that? well, that would be for the blue team to get its act together
#i have to be honest i don't really associate fabio in my head with 'having a good time'#he was kinda happy for stretches of 2019 and like. a decent proportion of 2021. a chunk of 2022#but that is a man who is too french for that kind of nonsense. late 2021 he was already making anxious screeching noises at yamaha#it's actually kinda pleasant the discourse has moved on from calling fabio a bottler... after 2020 the situation was DIRE#even after 2022 lbr#admittedly we've just moved on to the next victim but ah well. plus ça change etc etc#//#brr brr#//currt#//ht#batsplat responds#god the front tyre shit pisses me off so badly. we're gonna have at least another year of awful races#because the riders/teams/dorna all suck. idiots
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My mom is also really REALLY chill about plurality, and she also sees me and SeĂĄn and everyone else as different people but all like, her family. I was sorta worried she'd love the core more than us but she loves all all equally!!!
Our core has finally been able to get herself into headspace instead of just being dormant when she's not fronting, which also means she can front more. I was really anxious about wether or not I'd still be able to do things in front now that the "original" is active, and mom told me that if we stopped fronting at all, like if the core kicked us out, she'd feel sad because she loves us too and would miss us and I'm like. YOOOOOO
(also our core said she would never do that and she wants us to be happy too. POG?!! She's very poggers)
Our mom is SO POGGERS she's like the best mom ever she's the BEST I love her
I wish people were more chill about plurality. My family has gotten to the point of âAntlerkitty has brain people, itâs disordered but thatâs ok, theyâre just chilling and the disorder is the unwelcome intrusions, not the people.â
I wish everyone could have that. Normalize plurality please.
Edit: If yâall keep reblogging with syscoyrse due to my âthe future is pluralâ tag, Iâm going to turn off reblogs. Of course I donât want more kids to go through what we did. I believe in endogenic plurality too. âThe future is pluralâ is not about forcing people to be plural, itâs about plural acceptance.
#i made a textpost#also. sorry this is happening op. it's ridiculous that discourse keeps going on#people when âthe future is femaleâ ah yes this isn't avout gender identity but equality and acceptance#people when âthe future is queerâ ah yes this isn't about sexuality and gender identity but equality and acceptance#people when âthe future is blackâ ah yes this isn't about changing people's races or some shit it's about equality and acceptance#people when âthe future is pluralâ ohhh my god. oh no. what the fuck. whAaaat
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Scrutiny Surrounds New Executive Order on Education: Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling
In a bold move that has ignited controversy across the educational landscape, President [Name] has issued an Executive Order titled âEnding Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling,â aiming to reshape the content taught in Americaâs classrooms. The order, announced on January 29, 2025, reflects a concerted effort to address growing concerns over educational practices that some argue undermineâŚ
#1776 Commission#Academic Freedom#Censorship#critical thinking#Curriculum Changes#Diverse Perspectives#Education#Educational Reform#Executive Order#Federal Funding#Gender#identity#Indoctrination#K-12#Legal Challenges#Parental Rights#patriotism#Political Polarization#Public Discourse#Race#School Policies#Social Justice
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ttpd good when you don't have a bitch in ya ear tellin you its about matty healy
#honestly even knowing its about him doesn't change anything for me#bc i do not idolize that woman like that!!!#and also i dont hate him glkrjaglkrjggjarldigj#howeverrrrr it is too wordy and too long and some of the lines are straight up like bitch what....#like mama you tryna hit word count in a 3 minute song??#but just like stylistically i think its very interesting and like motif heavy#like a long ass boring ass old ass novel at times but we got thematic consistency#i do not think this challenged her the most musically buT sis sounds like she was goin thru it so like...#i think in retrospect people will circle back around and be like yeah its good#its just...too.....relevant rn?? bc yall were mad as hell at her n she was mad as hell at yall#but i do think it'll be retconned like how rep was in five years#and before we start race discourse in my inbox remember i am black and also an adult gjlakgjdglj
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Bad idea: Age gap discourse but in a fantasy land where there's multiple races who have vastly different lifespans and life styles.
Is it wrong for a 27 year old human to date a 140 year old stone elf, considering most stone elves don't get out of diapers till their 30s?
Is it wrong for a 80 year old dwarf to date a two year old fire wisp, when fire wisps only live up to 5 years (between the eruptions) and have memories of their past lives, so in a way they're "born" at age 400,000+? That octogenarian dwarf is way younger than the fire wisp that's only physically younger than some of the socks the dwarf has!
Is it wrong for a chronomancer who was never born to date, well, anyone? They are zero years old and infinity years old and negative one hundred and seventeen years old all at once. They look like an old human, sure, with the long white beard and the wrinkly skin, but as far as anyone can tell, they've always looked like that. We've seen the cave paintings.
Is it wrong for a 30 year old lizardman (that's old in lizardman years) to date a human who is 60 years old in biological years (because of aging spells), 26 years old in lived-experience years, but only 13 years old in calendar years? (ie, they were born 13 years ago, but spent some of that time in sideways timelines, so they've lived more years than have passed in their home timeline?)
Is it wrong for a 12,000 year old dragon date a pile of 400 kobolds when kobolds only live like 10 years on average, but reach full maturity in one year? And if you disagree, can you do anything about it? You do know what happened to the last policeman who tried to arrest a dragon, right? Their city is still smoldering, 50 years later.
Is it wrong for anyone to date the time worm? It's the same age, every year. So the age gap can only intensify. If you start dating the time worm when you're both the same age, when do you break it off because you've become too much older than them?
And most confusing of all... What about the fairies? They could be anything between a thousand and a day old, they would lie about their age either way, and they can look like whatever they want. There's fairies we know for a fact have been around since the founding of The City of Towers, who met the silent mother herself, and also look like they're at most ten years old. Is it wrong to date them, or just really uncomfortable for everyone who sees it? And on the other side there's fairies who are "born" (hatched? They come from plants, I'm not sure what the verb even would be. Seeded? Sprouted, maybe) this week who are already appearing like middle-aged men and dancing with widows in what looks like a scheme to run off with her fortune but they never take the money, because what would a fairy want with worthless metal discs? Maybe fairies have a hive mind or genetic memory or reincarnation with full memories, they'd never tell you or give you a straight (or consistent) answer anyway.
Stonefolk are really the only inter-race dating situation anyone can agree on. They're unthinking & unmoving solid rock during the day, so those hours don't count. Thus their "real age" is a nice even half of their true age. So if you meet a stonefolk who was dug out 30 years ago, watch out: that's a 15 year old, and if you're a 25 year human, that's too young for you, even though their dig-date is five years before your birth-date.
EDIT: 2024/01/12: Changed the name of the Stonefolk
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summary: carlos is dating a singer who's 9 years younger than him, and it's all good until it isn't
folkie radio: okay guys i know that summary is so bad but this is basically inspired by red by taylor and i hope you like it đ
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username1Â HELLO??
username2Â WHATS GOING ON
popbase BREAKING: Pop sensation YN (20) confirms relationship with Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz (29)
carlossainz55 Mi vida đ¤ Finally sharing you with the world
oliviarodrigo this is so cute! happy for you lovie đĽşâ¤ď¸
username3Â the ferrari jacket while recording SHES INSANE FOR THAT
lando about time you two went public! was tired of pretending i didn't know đ
username4Â her new boyfriend is an F1 driver??? THE POWER THIS HOLDS
sabrinacarpenter the way you've been glowing lately makes so much sense now đ
username5Â Carlos Sainz and YN?? We're living in a simulation đ
username6Â age gap discussion incoming in 3...2...1...
charles_leclerc Finally! No more hiding in Monaco đ
username7 nine year age gap... thoughts? đ¤
taylorswift This makes me so happy! â¤ď¸ Can't wait for you both to come over again!
username8Â isnât he a bit old for her?
username9Â young popstar dating an older guy? i think iâve seen this film before
username10Â I LOVE THIS
username11 THE THIRD PIC HAS SUCH AURA
username12 this could be the ultimate power couple or a complete mess
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f1gossipđ¨ Pop star YN supporting boyfriend Carlos Sainz at the Spanish GP! This marks her first public appearance in the paddock since confirming their relationship last week.
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username1Â I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
username2 Carlos is literally 29 dating a 20 year old. I'm sorry but that's weird đŠ
username3Â they look so happy! she fits right in with the ferrari family
username4Â the way charles and alex have basically adopted her already
username4Â not sure how I feel about this... she's barely out of her teens and he's almost 30?
username5Â IM LIVING FOR THIS
username6Â here's why this relationship is problematic: [thread]
username7Â can we talk about how she's handling herself so professionally despite all the hate? queen behavior
username8Â she's an adult who can make her own choices. stop infantilizing successful women.
username9Â the paddock dynamics about to get interesting đ
username10Â BEST WAG ALREADY
username11Â not trying to hate but 9 years is a big gap at that age...
username12Â charles treating her like a little sister is everything
username13Â age gap discourse aside, they actually look really good together
username14Â anyone else notice how all the drivers seem to already know her? must've been dating longer than we thought
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popbase đ¤ F1 driver Carlos Sainz supporting girlfriend YN at her sold-out Madrid concert! She even changed some lyrics to reference their relationship đ
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username1Â carlos in boyfriend era is everything we needed
username2 not charles and alex being the ultimate supportive friends đĽş
username3Â the security had to stop fans from taking photos of Carlos instead of watching the show đ
username4Â LOOK AT HIM BEING SO PROUD OF HER
username5Â YNâs "Spanish nights" lyric change already trending on TikTok
username6Â still weird seeing a 20yo performing for her 29yo boyfriend but go off I guess
username7Â first she comes to his races, now he's at her concerts. COUPLE OF THE CENTURY
username8Â "And all my Spanish nights are better with you" HELLO??? THE LYRICS???
username9Â he looks at her like she hung the moon and stars đ
username10Â the age gap comments getting real old. they're obviously happy together
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yourinstagram 21 đ¤ thank you for all the birthday wishes x
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username1Â BIRTHDAY ICON
popbase YN celebrates 21st birthday with star-studded party in London. Notable absence: boyfriend Carlos Sainz.
username2Â sometimes i forget that sheâs still so young
alexandrasaintmleux You looked beautiful birthday girl â¤ď¸ Love you x
username3Â carlos was posting from madrid while yn celebrated in london... trouble in paradise?
username4Â something's off... she usually writes longer captions
charles_leclerc Happy birthday pequeùa! You deserve the world
username5 he was having dinner with friends in Madrid instead of being at his girlfriend's birthday??? đŠđŠđŠ
oliviarodrigo ily birthday girl! your 21st year is gonna be amazing đ¤
madisonbeer HAPPY BIRTHDAY GORGEOUS đĽš
username6Â please tell me they didn't break up
username7Â maybe he had commitments in madrid? stop assuming things
username8Â age gap strikes again? đ
username9Â no carlos, no "te quiero" caption, no couple photos... something definitely happened
username10 CARLOS WTF DID YOU DO
username11 we knew this relationship was not going to last tbh
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TMZ EXCLUSIVE: F1 Star Carlos Sainz Missing from Girlfriend's 21st Birthday - Full Story
TROUBLE IN PARADISE? F1 STAR CARLOS SAINZ SKIPS GIRLFRIEND YN'S 21ST BIRTHDAY FOR BOYS' NIGHT
Pop sensation YN's star-studded 21st birthday celebration in London had everything - except her boyfriend. Formula 1 star Carlos Sainz (29) was noticeably absent from the festivities, instead posting Instagram stories of a dinner with friends in Madrid.
Multiple sources tell TMZ that Sainz COMPLETELY FORGOT about his girlfriend's birthday, leading to what insiders describe as a "major relationship crisis."
"He was posting stories and having fun in Madrid while YN was literally crying at her own party," reveals a source close to the singer. "Everyone was asking where he was, and she kept making excuses until she couldn't anymore."
The party, held at an exclusive London venue, was attended by music industry heavyweights and even several F1 drivers, including Sainz's teammate Charles Leclerc and his girlfriend Alexandra Saint Mleux, making the Ferrari driver's absence even more conspicuous.
Another source tells us that Sainz realized his mistake late in the evening when he saw social media posts about the party. "He immediately tried to damage control, but the damage was done. YN was devastated."
The 9-year age gap between the couple, which has been a topic of discussion since they went public with their relationship, is now being scrutinized again. "This is exactly what everyone was worried about," says our insider. "She's turning 21, and he's out there forgetting her birthday completely."
YN's team has not responded to our request for comment. A representative for Sainz said they "do not comment on personal matters."
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carlossainz55 Sometimes the biggest mistakes lead to the strongest promises. Te quiero mĂĄs que nada en este mundo, mi vida. Forever making it up to you. â¤ď¸
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username1 I CANT DO THIS
yourinstagram i love you more đ¤
username2 this is so..
alexandrasaintmleux My heart đĽş
lando back to being disgustingly cute I see
username3 THE WAY I CAN BREATHE AGAIN
username4 they're good y'all
username5 Carlos Sainz redemption arc starting strong
username6 not me crying over that caption
username7 well that was a quick resolution
username8 I'm still mad at him but this is cute
username9 NOT THE DAMAGE CONTROL POST OMFGGGGG
username10 this is gold
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gossiphubđ¨Â DRAMA ALERT: YN and Carlos Sainz in heated argument outside Mayfair club. Sources say tension arose after Carlos "got too protective" over other guys approaching YN inside. đ
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username1 the way she stormed off... this isn't just about tonight
username2 he looks jealous af... carlos baby what are you doing
username3 anyone else notice this is the same club where her ex was spotted earlier? đ
paddockgossip YN seen arriving at her apartment alone. Carlos reportedly went to Charles' place
username4 this man rly thought he could control a 21yo in her party era đ
username5 age gap issues showing... she wants to party, he's in his settled era
username6 y'all don't know the full story, stop assuming
username7 she's literally crying... carlos better have a good explanation
username8 not me remembering all those "controlling boyfriend" blind items...
username9 WHAT IS HAPPENING
username10 this is why drivers usually date within the F1 bubble tbh
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yourinstagram singapore lights hit different when they're shining on you @/carlossainz55 â¤ď¸ so proud of you mi amor. p.s. champagne is not good for silk dresses but worth it x
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username1Â MY HEART
carlossainz55 The best lucky charm. Te quiero mi vida â¤ď¸
charles_leclerc Get a room you two đ
lando mate was more excited to see you than the trophy
username2Â THEY MEAN SO MUCH TO ME
lewishamilton Beautiful moment you two â¤ď¸
username3 remember when we thought they were breaking up after the club incident? now look at them đĽş
username4Â The Valentino dress with Ferrari red heels >>>>>
tmz YN and Carlos Sainz silence breakup rumors with stunning Singapore display
username5Â he way the whole team loves them together
username6Â AND YALL THOUGHT THEY WERE OVER
username7Â age gap will always be a red flag
username8Â THE FERRARI QUEEN
username9 CARLOS REALLY DID THAT
username10 ahhh im so happy she was there for his win
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carlossainz55 Ending the year exactly where I want to be. Starting the new one exactly who I want to be with. 2024 ya estamos aquĂ mi vida @/yourintagram â¤ď¸
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username1Â I LOVE ONE COUPLE
yourinstagram forever mi amor â¤ď¸
username2Â YN choosing family dinner in Madrid over Hollywood NYE parties... we love this growth
username3Â they could never make me hate them
scuderiaferarri đ¤
username4Â carlos is turning 30 this wear which makes the age gap weirder
username5Â YN3 is going to be full of love songs
username6Â HES SO IN LOVE
landonorris My parents
username7Â the way yn is literally younger than landođ
username8Â cuteee
username9 THEY'RE NOT BREAKING UP WE WON
username10 this is my family
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username1Â THE RELIEF I JUST FELT
username2Â y'all really had us scared for a minute đ
username3Â deuxmoi being wrong again what's new
username4Â but what about the suitcases? đ
username5Â she's moving in with him besties, those weren't breakup suitcases
username6Â idk something feels off... remember how she denied the club fight?
username7Â the way she always defends him... giving Stockholm syndrome
usernamd8Â she's literally trauma bonded, we saw how he acts in public
username9Â STOP projecting your issues onto them omg
username10Â Carlos: *breathes*
Y'all: RED FLAG RED FLAG
username11 notice how she didn't deny the "trouble in paradise" part đ¤
username12Â defending toxic behavior again... girl we're trying to help you
username13Â some of y'all need therapy instead of projecting onto celebs fr
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yourinstagram some of my favorite memories will always be in red â¤ď¸ but it's not the color i fell in love with, it's you @/carlossainz55. so proud of everything you've achieved and everything that's coming next. you'll always be my champion, no matter the suit đ¤ ps: i'm keeping the jacket.
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username1Â IM CRYING
username2Â i canât believe carlos is leaving ferrari
carlossainz55 Mi vida, siempre â¤ď¸ (and that's MY jacket đ¤)
scuderiaferarri Once Ferrari Family, always Ferrari Family â¤ď¸
alexandrasaintmleux the way I'm crying rn
username3Â SOBBING. THE MEMORIES. THE JACKET. THE EVERYTHING.
username4Â "not the color i fell in love with" STOP I'M CRYING
username5Â CANT BELIEVE YN WONT BE A FERRARI WAG ANYMORE
username6Â imagine yn in mercedes fits tho
username7Â AND SOME OF YALL SAID THEY WERE BREAKING UP
username8Â sheâll always be THEE ferrari girl
username9 this caption is so beautiful
username10 THIS COUPLE IS MY LIFE
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username1Â the way he JUST posted about their anniversary two weeks ago???
username2Â remember when he said "age is just a number when you find your soulmate" in that ferrari interview... aged like milk
username3Â let's not jump to conclusions maybe-
username4Â he fumbled THE BAG. she literally moved countries for him???
username5Â imagine throwing away 2 years because you're having a midlife crisis
username6Â I DONT BELIEVE THIS
username7 nah this is fake
username8 how many times people have said that they're over but turns out they're not tho
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tmz YN steps out for the first time since breakup with Carlos Sainz news broke
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username1Â LEAVE HER ALONE
username2Â disgusting how they chased her down just to get pics of her crying. she can't even process her breakup in peace
username3Â if you're sharing those photos you're getting blocked. respect her privacy
username4Â my heart breaks for her. these 'photographers' are vultures.
lando Proper shameful this. Let her be.
username1Â OMFG LANDO
username5Â maybe if carlos hadn't dumped her by TEXT she wouldn't be crying in parking lots
username6Â she doesn't deserve this. no one does.
username7Â To any media outlets - we will report and block any accounts sharing these photos.
username8 yall SUCK
username9 i hope you're ready for that lawsuit
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yourinstagram healing sounds different for everyone. for me, it's always been putting pain into poetry and turning heartbreak into harmony. taking some time away to write my truth into existence. thank you for understanding đ¤
p.s. no, none of them are "nice" songs
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dailymail SPOTTED: Carlos Sainz with Scottish model Rebecca Donaldson. Sources say they've been "quietly seeing each other" for a month. Apparently met through mutual friends... đ
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username1Â a MODEL?? this man really said "you're too young" to yn and then- i can't.
username2Â respectfully deleting my carlos fan account. yn deserved better.
username3Â "i need time to focus on racing" yeah focusing real hard i see
username4Â the way he's trying to recreate his old relationship but with a "socially acceptable" age gap... embarrassing
username5Â LEAVE HIM ALONE
username6Â man poor yn
username7Â heâs innocent idc
username8 OH CARLOS SAINZ GET READY FOR THOSE BREAKUP SONGS
username9 i always knew he was trash
username10 IM ON HIS SIDE IDC
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yourinstagram RED.
13 tracks of what happens when you love someone scarlet and they leave you burgundy.
october 22.
produced by @/jackantonoff
available for pre-save now.
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username1Â OMFG
username2Â SHES COMING
charles_leclerc track 9 đšđ¤
âł username1Â IF CHARLES PLAYS THE PIANO IâLL DIE
oliviarodrigo screaming crying throwing up this is gonna be INSANE
lewishamilton Already pre-saved đđž
username3Â CURRENTLY SHAKING AND CRYING IN MY LIVING ROOM
username4Â charles really said "let me help end this man's whole career" with track 9
username5Â not me calculating that track 5 is 10 MINUTES LONG... carlos better move countries
username6Â sheâs coming for BLOOD
username7Â RED??? FERRARI RED
username8Â NOT EVEN CARLOSâ FRIENDS ARE ON HIS SIDE
username9Â album of the year already
username10Â red bc carlos is a red flag so true
username11Â this cover EATS
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yourinstagram RED. out now everywhere.
thank you for every tear that became a lyric, every memory that became a melody, and every heartbreak that became healing. special thanks to CL for the late night studio sessions, ASM for being the best friend ever and all of my collaborators for helping me bring this to life
and to the person who said i was too young to handle this life - watch me.
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username1Â IM CRYNG
username2Â CHARLES AND ALEX?
charles_leclerc proud of you piccolina â¤ď¸ (track 9 was therapeutic)
alexandrasaintmleux i love you so much đ
oliviarodrigo THE BRIDGE OF ALL TOO WELL???? actual perfection
username3Â "you said if we had been closer in age maybe it wouldâve been fine" ACTUAL CHILLS
username4Â "iâll get older but your lovers stay my age" SOMEBODY CHECK ON HIM
username5Â charles playing piano while she sings about his best friend's betrayal... the LAYERS
spotify "All Too Well" breaks single-day streaming record
username6Â THE SONG ABOUY HER 21ST BDAY HELLO??
georgerussell63 Amazing songs. You're incredible
username7Â the way she ended a man's whole career while staying classy... queen behavior
username8Â CHARLES PLAYING THE PIANO WAS BEAUTIFUL
username9Â this is the album of the century
username10 BREAKUP ALBUM OF THE CENTURY CARLOS SAINZ YOU'RE SO OVER
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f1updates Carlos Sainz addresses YN's album 'RED' for the first time:
"Look, everyone has their version of the truth. The album is her art, her perspective. But let me be clear - I never cheated, I was honest about needing space. The age gap was a real concern. Meeting Rebecca happened after. That's my truth."
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username1Â WELL
username2Â not him lying AGAIN when track 11 has literal timestamps đ
username3Â this is getting uglier by the second
username4Â LEAVE HIM ALONE
username5Â stream red
username6Â donât care weâre all on ynâs side
username7Â GASLIGHTER
username8Â does he ever shut up
username9 they should be asking him questions about RACING not his ex gf
username10 this is just ridiculous
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yourinstagram one month of RED. one month of healing. one month of turning heartbreak into history.
thank you for every scream-sing to track 5, every tweet decode, every dm sharing your own storyđ¤
p.s. someone asked if i regret being "too honest" in the lyrics. no. some people give you their truth in press conferences, i gave mine in verses.
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username1Â IM CRYING
taylorswift Proud of you â¤ď¸ welcome to the better off club
username2Â IM SO PROUD OF HER
username3Â "some people give you their truth in press conferences, i gave mine in verses" HELP WHY IS SHE SO ICONIC
username4Â not a single skip on this album... even carlos' new gf had to private her spotify
sabrinacarpenter watching you heal has been the best part â¤ď¸
charles_leclerc So proud of you !
username5Â SHE KEEPS COMING FOR BLOOD
username6Â are you ready to die carlos sainz
alexandrasaintmleux MY FAVORITE GIRL! couldn't be prouder
username7 i think about the lyric "said i was too young i was too soft can't take a joke can't get you off" every single day
username8 SO DAMN PROUD OF HER
georgerussell63 â¤ď¸
username9 someday she'll be everything to somebody else why carlos ages horribly
username10 SHE MEANS SO MUCH TO ME
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williamsracing We're excited to announce Carlos Sainz will be joining Williams Racing for the 2025 season onwards. Welcome to the team, @/carlossainz55 đ¤
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username1Â OH MY LORD
username2Â THIS IS WILD
username3Â WAIT. "losing him was blue like i'd never known" FROM RED... SHE KNEW
username4Â going from ferrari red to williams blue... she wrote this in the album TWO MONTHS AGO
username5Â remember when everyone thought the "blue" references were about sadness? Girlie was dropping CONTRACT INFO
username6Â LEAVE CARLOS ALONE
username7Â she really buried the contract news in a breakup album... queen behavior
username8Â loving him was RED (ferrari) and losing him was BLUE (williams) i canât do this
username9 YN YOU SICK HUMAN BEING.....
username10 none of this comments are congratulating him we're all dissecting lyrics LMAO
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gossiphub SPOTTED: YN having dinner at Monaco's Hotel de Paris with mystery man. Sources say they spent 3 hours talking and left together in his car.
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username1Â THE WAY HE'S HOLDING HER HAND UNDER THE TABLE I'M-
username2Â MERCEDES BOY? đ
username3Â not me zooming in on the reflection in the window... that's definitely a british accent in the video snippet
username4Â THIS IS GOOD KARMA
username5Â carlos unfollowed [redacted] on insta... he knows something
username6Â carlos sainz was found crying
username7 IS THAT SOMEONE FROM THE PADDOCK???
username8 streets say that's another driver...
username9 she's moving on already? wow
username10 THIS IS ABOUT TO GET INTERESTING
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yourinstagram but on a wednesday in a cafe i watched it begin againđ¤
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black reader discourseâŚ
I am quite frankly, very tired of seeing posts complaining about âhoodâ Y/Ns and all of you coming out of the woodwork to proclaim that you donât act this way and itâs disgusting to act this way and you hate fics where the reader wears wigs or acrylics or says the N-word and how all of these are just an inaccurate representation of our community. this is just very coon like behavior and is giving pick me.
yall know very well that fics including black women didnât even exist until very recently. iâm grateful for every fic written whether itâs bad or good. either way they are contributing to the growth of a very niche community and helping establishing our presence here on this app. iâve been on this app for like 12 years and I remember in the very early days when fics first started including black mcâs. no matter how the black mc was represented there would still be people in the mentions/comments like âeww gross you n***** why did you write this?â or âthis fic is so good but why is she black?â. we were quite literally fighting for our right to exist on this app.
hood culture is, like it or not, a big part of the black community and itâs not all negative. itâs a cultural movement that spawned from us being barred from white spaces and seen as the âinferiorâ race no matter how we presented ourselves. hood girls deserve to see themselves in fiction just like everyone else. they deserve love without the implication that they need to imitate others/change themselves to seem more âcivilizedâ. they arenât bad people just because you donât share the same style, vocab, interests and hobbies as they do.
whenever you bring this up you are giving non black people a free pass to insert themselves and say âyes omg so ghettoâ. there are enough people against us. i would never help facilitate a conversation which further criticizes our community. especially when itâs related to very real people whose experiences you are trying to devalue.
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Kageyama's backstory only being revealed near the very end of the series is really interesting from a meta perspective.
For reference, his chapter is 387 out of 402. That's 96% of the way in.
To contrast, other characters like Tsukishima and Yamaguchi's backstories are shown in Chapters 87-88.
Now, we do get the explanation for his "King of the Court" title in Chapter 6, at the start of the series, but we don't see how he got to that point, or why he started playing volleyball in the first place like Tsukishima's and Yamaguchi's stories show.
It creates this situation where, despite being the deuteragonist, the character our protagonist, Hinata, is practically glued to the entire series, we barely know anything about him.
We don't even know he has a sister until that point whereas other characters' siblings like Natsu, Saeko, Akiteru, Alisa have all made appearances way before then. Even Oikawa's sister, though we don't see her, we at least know she exists because of Takeru.
He's both closed off to us (the audience) as well as the other characters in the series, and this results in them finding him rude or disliking his character in general (see: the "Kageyama is abusive" discourse that somehow keeps popping up even now).
Chapter 387 takes place in 2018 and was published in 2020 so it takes him 6 years of in-universe time and 8 years of irl time to really open up.
And the catalyst for all of this is Hinata fulfilling his promise of beating him.
You see, another thing to note is that, whenever Hinata thinks of Kageyama, he's always looking at him from behind.

His internal image of him is someone who's always up ahead, someone he needs to catch up to, meaning Hinata can only see one side of him, he cannot see all of Kageyama until he catches up and passes him.
Which he finally does here.

In this shot Hinata is finally the one who's looking back at Kageyama. At this moment, Hinata (and by extension the audience) can see him for all he is, can see how he was just a lonely boy who's been waiting for someone to meet him where he is, to keep running alongside him and not quit the race.
Someone he doesn't have to go easy on. Someone who would actually tell him to hurry up instead of slow down for a change.


His someone better.
#toast post#haikyuu!!#kageyama tobio#character analysis#? it feels so pretentious of me to call this wall of yapping that đ but i feel i need a separate tag for these longer posts#i actually talked a bit about this on my twt and i think it sounded better there lol but i wanted to expand my thoughts a little#and also include more pics#hinata shouyou#kagehina
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never going back. ln4. glen powell. part one. smau.
cheater!lando norris x reader. glen powell x reader
when lando cheats on reader she makes a promise to herself, to never go back to him and by doing so she meets someone that treats her just how she deserves to be treated.
faceclaim: scarlett leithhold
part two
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f1wags: some of you may forget but lando norris does actually have a girlfriend, y/n y/ln is an american based model and has been dating lando for a year and a half. lando never comments on their relationship saying that he likes to keep their personal lives private. y/n is in the paddock in australia to watch the race today for the first time in a little under a year.
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user1: i always forget that they are dating
user2: hasn't he been getting really close to one of mclaren's influencer guests this week
user3: this is how i find out lando is actually taken
y/ninsta posted a story

written: good luck my love
influencer posted a story

written: been in australia all week watching these guys get ready, can't wait for race day.
y/ninsta posted a story

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y/ninsta: so i was not going to say anything about what happened in australia but i have seen some discourse online blaming @.influencer for what happened and that is just wrong. she is the reason that i found out something was wrong. she had been lied to just as much as me. i don't know if i will ever talk about exactly what happened that day but please be kind. remember that you only get 5% of the full story online.
a little personal update: i am now back living in texas full time and boy is it nice to be home. i hope everyone is doing well, i love you all.
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lilymhe posted a story tagging y/ninsta

written: my girl is visiting us in monaco and lets just say some questionable choices have been made
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written: a change was needed
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written: lily is now claiming that she will be quitting golf to become a hair stylist
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y/ninsta: monaco trip dump. a massive thank you to mom and dad for having me
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user4: lando needs to get the fuck out of her likes
user5: you finally have your smile back y/n i am so happy for you
lilymhe: i miss you already
y/ninsta: i miss you too lils
alexalbon: the house actually feels empty without our child
y/ninsta: say the word and i will move in permanently
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A Postcolonial analysis of Marius
(Disclaimer: This is not me trying to fight with anyone, this is just my own analysis of Marius. Heâs an extremely complex and difficult character and so I have a lot of thoughts about him. I donât 100% hate or like Marius. But more importantly, I donât make moral judgements about how OTHER people feel about Marius because at the end of the day these are fictional characters.)
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I think a big part of what I am going to call the Marius Problem (which I am not gonna take pains to describe here bc iykyk) is that Anne herself didnât really seem to see a huge problem with him, and that affects his portrayal in the narrative.
There is of course the obvious way he treats Armand, and anyone who is familiar with Anneâs corpus of work knows that that relationship dynamic is something she revisits a lot and often in the context of erotica which is like a whole other bag of worms butâŚ
The thing I feel like we donât really talk about with Marius enough is his very Western Eurocentric view of the world. From a postcolonial perspective Mariusâs philosophy is deeply unsettling. The way he polarizes the âeastâ and âwestâ and the modern and medieval, reason and superstition, are very insidious ways of defining things, as is his idolization of the Enlightenment, which was at its heart a positivist, Eurocentric, and deeply prejudiced school of thought which managed to convince the world that social constructions like race and gender were âscientificâ in nature.
Marius is basically the embodiment of imperialism, not because heâs some malicious Big Brother twirling his moustache but because he is a very powerful, very privileged, and deeply misguided man who is takes his experience of the world as a universal truth, and who mistakes his own subjective feelings and desires for objective morality.
One of his greatest crimes against Armand that no one talks about is that he tries to force him to conform to a culture that goes against Armandâs own nature and history, and discounts Armandâs view of the world as fundamentally flawed and wrong just because it doesnât align with his. In the book the conflict of ideologies is between classical humanism (Marius) and Eastern Orthodoxy and mysticism (Armand). In QotD, Marius even laments his failure to âperfectâ Armand. Even as he showers them with gifts and affection, Marius treats Armand, Pandora, and even Akasha like dolls. Due to the changes made to Armandâs character in the show, I imagine the dissonance will be even more intense and the suppression of Armandâs selfhood will feel even more disturbing, because it will register on the level of race as well as other forms of identity.
But regardless, the most difficult part of this is that Marius is not doing this out of malice. Marius genuinely thinks heâs doing the right thing. He thinks heâs helping Armand. He thinks he is liberating the subaltern subject from the dark shadows of superstition and oppression. He thinks he is educating a being who must not know his own self and his own rights because he is fundamentally ignorant. He does not realize that what he is trying to do is efface the Other and absorb it into himself. And he eventually abandons Armand, in part, I think, because of his failure to succeed at this mission, and so facing Armand means facing the Other in himself which he wishes to repress to be the ideal enlightened western man. Marius is not even aware of his own need to dominate.
(But please please remember that Mariusâs need to dominate is not likewise reflected by a need to be subjugated in Armand. Armand is equally able to move in spheres of dominance as well as submission because Armand does understand much of what Marius does not about the nature of power. Marius does not have this kind of mobility.)
This is at the heart of imperial discourse. This is what gives it momentum, what immortalizes itâ the idea that we (the West) occupy some moral high ground from which we can liberate and speak for the subaltern subjects which we ourselves have locked into oppression and victimhood.
And sadly, I donât think Anne wrote all this into the books consciously. She herself said in an interview that her own philosophy of the world aligns more with Mariusâs than with Armandâs, and I think that is part of why Marius is a fundamentally sympathetic character. She made him that way. And I donât necessarily blame her for it because these kinds of discourses are epistemological and extremely tricky to parse out. Power is that which we cannot name. So yeah, I donât think Anne was intentional or malicious in it either.
And I donât think all of us who look at Marius and probably feel somewhere deep down to be like him, to have his power, are doing it because of a fundamental flaw in their humanity or their politics. Itâs a flaw in the epistemological system, and I donât think itâs a flaw anyone can really see unless theyâre the Armands in that equation, or theyâve been extensively trained to see it.
And before anyone gets defensive, this is not an attack on anyone or a criticism of any individual. It is a criticism of a system of knowledge and knowing which we likely cannot escape. And it is also a call for people to look at this story differently than they might have before. A call for lovers of Marius to try to begin to understand things from Armandâs perspective, and a call for lovers of Armand to remember that he is far more than just a victim, and that it would be very dangerous and reductive and harmful to his existence as an autonomous subject to understand him in that way. And if you feel the same as I do about these things, please talk about it, donât get stuck in the surface level dynamics of the Armand/Marius relationship.
And if youâve stayed with me for this long, I applaud your patience and thank you for your commitment.
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