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byebyler · 2 years

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things in the byler vs melvin disk horse that rub me the wrong way (from a byler stan. melvins dni or whatever lol)

~ only discussing mike and will’s relationship via el. "mike wouldn’t date his ex’s brother” “will wouldn’t steal his sister’s boyfriend”. two best friends with ten years of history? becoming will’s friend was the best thing mike ever did? i don’t know them. i only know them as el’s boys!

~ the people who constantly whine about ship wars and how “the show is about friendship not romance!” but only complain about byler or tag it anti byler. sure...

~ the ones who seem to think every byler shipper wants el to die and like insult her and literally call her slurs or something?? maybe there’s some awful people like that out there but absolutely no one ive come across on tumblr has that attitude so... idk where they’re seeing it

~ people saying there’s literally zero evidence supporting byler. like i said before, the show seems to think the audience needs a third party to sit a ship down, look them in the eyes, and tell them they’re in love, and that’s the only way to start a romance. so if that’s what they need, i’m not surprised they can’t pick up on subtext, looks, nonverbal hints, or literally anything else with any degree of subtlety

~ saying that even just making will gay would be cheap fanservice. i shouldnt have to explain that one :|

~ will and el both have some variation of a traumatic upbringing. somehow her trauma gives her infinite free passes to do anything she wants but will shows one Symptom and suddenly people are getting paid to write articles about how he has peter pan syndrome and needs to stfu about d&d and grow up already (they’re 14-15 btw thats literally a child) (also not saying el doesnt deserve some free passes. she can have a little murder, as a treat <3) (it’s all about the double standards babeyyy)

~ will’s friendships with lucas and dustin are exactly the same as his with mike. like. please tell me what stranger things you’re watching cause it’s not the one on netflix!

~ will doesn’t have time to think about love bc Trauma. again, double standard, bc that could apply to almost any character. but nope, its only about him!! also implying that people dealing with trauma can’t want/be in a relationship at the same time... one big gigantic Yikes

~ “the show gave us mike and el from the start so that’s what it’s always going to be! if they break up then it’s bad writing/fanservice”. bc couples that get together at age 11 have a 100% success rate lol. even from a story perspective, as though it’s unheard of and taboo for a show pull a controversial break up plotline, ever

~ continued from above, anything about how mike and el’s relationship is the central focus/driving force of the show :| im guessing the people saying this are also like 13 so i wont be too mean about it lol

~ “calling mike gay is erasing bisexuality”. for everyone, i guess! all bisexuals just got thanos snapped out of existence bc some people on the tumblr hc this fictional boy as gay. “mike can be bi!” yes but he can also be gay. he can literally be anything at this point. when the show explicitly, plainly states he’s bi, i’ll rescind my statement. til then, i love my gay son <3

~ “stop calling me homophobic bc i dont ship byler!” again maybe im just not seeing the worst takes but i dont see anyone getting called homophobic for not shipping byler. i see people getting called homophobic bc of all the homophobic shit they say as an excuse for why they dont ship byler 🤪 as in...

~ aNYTHING about “it’s the 80s and homophobia!” bc. that they can sit there and say that it doesn’t make sense for will and/or mike to be “out and proudly gay” and that’s just like a ship argument rather than an incredibly sad thought. never mind that there have always been gay people in every corner of the world, including - surprise! - rural indiana in the 80s. but no, since they cant go waving rainbow flags at the head of the pride parade, they might as well not be gay in the first place :|

ALSO you know what else was probably pretty taboo in rural indiana in the 80s?? a black guy dating a white girl. and if i were sitting up here ready to defend dustin x max to my last breath and one of my main arguments was “its the 80s so max would have an easier time dating dustin”, there would be a word for the kind of person i was. just like there’s a word for the kind of people that use this argument to shut down byler

and seriously, disregarding mike’s potential feelings and saying “he should stay with el bc its easier” is not the serve some people think it is

also y’know never mind we dont live in a utopia rn and plenty of people still fucking hate interracial and same sex couples like it really hasnt changed that much and people can still be at risk just by walking out in public with their partner. it’s a tragedy and it’s also a shitty thing to reach for, for shipping points! That should be obvious no matter how open minded or non-homophobic you claim to be! Stop it!

Anyway wow I didn’t expect this to be so long! Guess there are more annoying ass cold takes out there than I thought

And as usual I’m not even typing this all out to say “You’re wrong and Byler is real!” no my expectations are firmly set at rock bottom! Don’t get it twisted lol. I’ve just read a ton of takes that don’t sit right with me and I wanted to get my thoughts out <3

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maccreadysimp · 3 years

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breaking down this anti-ian article bc it bothers me ( from the child of a bipolar mother and a male teen with same sex attraction ) while also providing valid reasons ian sucks ( from someone who likes ian )

ive had this drafted for a while so i dont think i cover anything from season 11

tw for i^cest and r^pe

he was with a married man

in this point it points out that he was with kash and he continued his relationship with kash even after linda put cameras in the store

“Ian didn't seem to care about how wrong his affair with Kash was or how much it could hurt Kash's wife Linda, whom he saw at the store regularly. “

that is a quote from that part.

ian gallagher was fifteen in season one, kash was an older man who bought him gifts and payed attention to ian ,, that was not on ian , none of that was ian fault because he was a child

ian wasnt open with lip

“ Ian didn't tell Lip about his preferences and forced Lip to figure it out on his own. Lip was instantly accepting of his brother's truth and even offered to help him figure out any confusion he might be harboring, so it's really strange that Ian wasn't just upfront with his closest confidant from the start.”

no , lip wasnt forced to figure it out on his own and he also wasn’t instantly accepting.

in this point it mentions that ‘they’re extremely close ( bestfriends and brothers ) so its strange ian didnt tell him’

like point 1 , ian is a fifteen year old boy, growing up on the southside , and thoughout the show it has mentioned multiple times that the southside isnt that accepting

back to lip -- lip wasnt accepting, sure he was fine but ‘helping your younger brother figure it out’ by having a (female) classmate give him a blowjob isnt helping

he secretly dated his best friends brother

“Most friends have an unspoken rule about not dating each other's siblings, but Ian broke this rule by secretly entering into a relationship with Mandy's closeted brother Mickey.”

the only thing i have to say about this is , he was still with kash and mickey was a boy in his age group who was gay , growing up in the southside ian probably thought he was the token gay so of course hes going to chase after mickey

he stood by as kash attacked mickey

“Ian didn't do anything to stop Kash from shooting his new lover, and didn't even tell the police about his boss' over-the-top display of jealous action so proper justice could be served.”

okay. because two men he had fallen for had gotten into a fight, there was a gun involved and he panicked, in the end after mickey got shot he went to him

now to address the quote, he didnt say anything to the police because he probably knew that that would bring shame onto kash and his family, along with mickey and his family who are very homophobic

oh yeah and it was like 2011 and cops suck and THEY LIVE ON THE SOUTHSIDE

he and lip tried framing terry milkovich

oh the homophobic and racist dad of his boyfriend and bestfriend who tried to kill him and r*ped his daughter ?

yeah , shit man , that was real bad they shouldn’t have done that /s

he dated jimmy-steves married father

“Ian didn't bother telling Jimmy the truth about his father and didn't end his relationship with Lloyd upon finding out that he had a secret wife and family, either.”

at this point ian is probably sixteen but that doesnt matter bc i wont even address that

he met him at a club and then used his relationship with ned to make mickey jealous which was one of the reasons he kept seeing him, he didnt tell jimmy-steve about the relationship or his father bc he shouldnt find out from him he should find out from his father , again like kash, ned was an older man who payed attention to ian and ned later did develop feelings feelings for ian

he stole lips identity to enlist in the army

he enlisted because he didnt know what to do with himself, its implied/stated that the army timeline was the start of his bipolar

“While impersonating Lip, Ian had tried to steal a helicopter and then proceeded to go AWOL.”

this is because of the bipolar he suffers from, it is referenced later in the series after he gets back and hes manic

ian refused to accept being bipolar

of course he didnt accept it, it is made very clear that his family thinks lowly of monica so of course if hes the lucky duck to get what his siblings demonize her for, of course he’ll not want to be it

“He refused to take medications that could alter his personality or mood.”

okay. this is why im making this whole post, this goes along with part 15 ( or so idk ) ,,

my mother , my dear mother, who is bipolar and doesnt take her meds because they are mood altering , my mom doesnt take med because she told me once that they make her feel like shit, she told me that a little after i was born she started taking them but realized she felt nothing, she felt nothing for my dad or for i ( making her numb )

she told me anti deppresents dont help either because when shes on them and manic it pushes her past productive and into angry

my dad told me that when my mom was on bi polar medication she would seem angry most of the time

he wasnt faitful to mickey

“Ian's bipolar disorder made him very reckless and impulsive and led him to be unfaithful.”

lets break that down.

ians. bipolar. disorder.

this plot point i actually didnt like, mainly bc ian never addresses it so ill give the article a point. but then i take away 2 because they have more of a problem with his bipolar messing with him rather than the fact he never apologized and they never worked it out

ian stole yevgeny

before i start quoting i should mention because his boyfriend, who has supported and helped him is suddenly telling him he needs help, he was helping raise yev so he’ll see yev as his own

“Ian failed to recognize just how crazy he was acting...”

cuting you off right there , he was in a bipolar state, he wasnt ‘crazy’ and isnt ‘crazy’

he cant even keep count of his number of partners

just slutshaming i see

he helped throw frank off a bridge

“His relationship with Frank was understandably never the same after that, as Frank struggled to get over this act of betrayal and cruelty.”

‘was never the same after that’ frank never liked ian, ian was probably his least favorite and that point is very apparent

also , it wasnt just ian , his siblings and his boyfriend caleb

he left a healthy relationship to be with mickey

he fell in love with mickey at 15 , mickey was a comfort and always someone to fall back on, when mickey was taken away and no longer in the picture his heart still obviously was with mickey and when mickey came back he didnt know what to do

he told mickey he had a boyfriend but because mickey has been such a constant in his life he finally has back of course he couldnt resist

he liked trevor, i could tell he did but trevor wasnt the one he watched get r^ped by a russian prostitute, he wasnt the one ian was secretly dating bc it would be a death wish other wise, he wasnt the one there when ian was manic or depressive ( at the start )

he tried blackmailing an old client for money

“Instead of raising the money in an honest manner, Ian chose to visit an old client from his time working at the Fairy Tail and blackmail him into funding the shelter.”

because he felt indebted to trevor and wanted to make it up to him, it would have taken longer to do it in ‘an honest manner’ when his sister would have gotten it instead, he knew how much gay youths like he once was needed a safe place

“He grew up wanting to be nothing like his father, but this whole money-making scheme was straight out of the Frank playbook”

because thats all he knows, he grew up with that ‘playbook’ so of course hes going to take a page out of it, he is nothing like frank , franks money making schemes are selfish and for his own greed while ian wanted the money to help build a safe space for lgbt youth

he let fame inflate his ego

of course he did, hes a southside kid who was destined to fail

also it is very apparent that during the gay jesus era he went off his medication which didnt help

“Before long, he just completely forgot about his ex and focused solely on being a deity”

as much as yes, he did let it mess with his head, he was trying to still help lgbt youth and was going against anti gay churchs , in the end it didnt work out for him because he was off his meds and went over board

he stopped taking his meds

see previous point and ‘ian refused to accept being bipolar’

he actually wanted to stay in prison

because he was doing good in there

ian was helping others and was spreading awareness about lgbt with in the prison , and as him and jail scenes go , we can see people were listening to him and he was trying to make it safe sane and consensual

he let down his army of followers

“Ian admitted that most of his actions were completely irrational and the mere results of his bipolar disorder.”

he didnt want to, we can see this, because he knew he would let down everyone, his family were the only ones to ever ground him and they knew it would be the best option for his own mental health

during the gallavich wedding we can see that a lot of his supporters still have his back because they must know how hard it was for him to put all of that success on something he can’t control

he constantly wasted his potential

this is actually the only point in this article i actually agree with , so only 1/20 i agree with

his relationship with mickey wasn’t actually great

“Mickey spent the first several years of their relationship denying his feelings for Ian.”

he was raised by a homophobic and racist father who he knew would react the way he did when terry had caught the two that one day

“Even after he finally embraced his true self, Ian's bipolar disorder kept them from becoming truly happy together.”

yes but mickey was there for him the entire time and helped him through it, he told him he loved him which was really big for him and did his best to care for him

“They couldn't seem to remain faithful to each other for more than a few weeks.”

back to the point about ians bipolar but for mickey he wanted monogamy , now that scene in s11 may say otherwise but it is very clear that he wants a monogamous relationship with ian and ian ( after getting help ) wants one too, and in the later seasons they are monogamous

“When Mickey asked Ian to run away to Mexico with him, Ian refused.”

he wanted to, it’s obvious, but ian has his family and didnt want to abandon them again, i think part of him knew he would see mickey again because they always find eachother, he gave mickey all of his money and wanted mickey to have a good life

“Their relationship was simply never healthy.”

no it wasnt, but thats why the ship is great in its own way, the gay closet kid raised by a homophobic man is obviously going to have a lot of baggage , and ian who is bipolar and struggling with himself will also have a lot of baggage , but in the end they love eachother and that really shows in season five and season seven specifically

that is all lol ,,, this is long sorry

now, i am not a ian apologist , i love ian but hes a dumbass sometimes

actual valid reasons ian sucks

genuinely believes frank is worse than terry

yes frank was definitely abusive but terry is definitely worse ,,

mentally/physically/sexually abusive , the whole nine yards

terry hired a prostitute to r^pe his son , threatened to kill him and ian on multiple occasions , r^ped his daughter who ended up pregnant and is actively racist

frank on the other hand will make gay jokes but in the end doesnt give enough of a shit , he has attacked his children on multiple occasions but not to the brutality that terry has ( this isnt me excusing it )

sorry ian , terry is worse

never apologized

he never apologized for all the shit he put mickey and his family through, never apologized to mickey for cheating on him , never apologized for all the manic and depressive episodes mickey endured with him

never apologized for walking away when he couldn’t handle it, in hall of shame mickey actually acknowledges this saying ‘its youre whole MO’

debbies sexuality

he has constantly made statements saying debbie isnt gay and that bothers me because , why does it care ? as a gay man and as a gay man who soent time with a lot of lgbt youth wouldnt he support his sister even if shes just ‘experimenting’?

in the recent season he doesnt seem to care and doesn’t say anything but it still bothers me

mickey only getting like 80% of his heart

okay look , i get what ian means when he says this , everyones hes been with has made him who he is but fucking hell dude ,, shut up , thats your husband , thats the love of your life you shouldnt be saying shit like that , especially to him

and then this man had the audacity to say mickey probably feels the same about past flings when he knows that ian is the only one hes probably ever been with/serious about

obviously there is probably more but those are the main ones that come to mind

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before anyone brings up the trans or bi thing im going to explain my thought process for him

like ive probably mentioned multiple times he grew up southside and obviously only ever grew up with lgb and not t ,, trevor did inform him a lot and ian became supre accepting of everyone,, sexual preference isnt transphobic but i do think he approached the matter badly

now the bi thing , legit all i think is that he doesnt hate bisexual people its just that the man he really liked slept with a woman and never expressed any heterosexual attraction so it probably just suprised him and pissed him off because caleb did cheat on ian

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if you read this far HOLY SHIT THANKS LOL ,, im not adding things that i think are pro about ian this was just me breaking down that article and giving my two cents :)

feel free to message me and talk to me or send me articles like this about any other character/relationship and i will totally break that one down too lol

thanks for letting me rant

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words-for-holland · 4 years

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Happier (4) | T.H.

Summary: Y/N & Tom speak to each other for the first time in 3 weeks! Tom is in talks of doing a new movie. Lots of yelling, painful pictures being sent. Harrison and Harry go on a trip. Does Kate finally tell the truth to Y/N?

A/N: Hmmm....seems like Natalie & Matt is everyone’s favorite/hated suspects. More theories lets hear em!!!

Sanctuary

Its a word often used to protect those within a troubling world. For some it’s a church, a home, sometimes a family and friend. For Y/N and Tom, sanctuaray was no where to be found. Three weeks it’s been since the world felt like it collapsed on Y/N and Tom. Three weeks of feeling left in a troubling space that they could not get out of...until now. As soon as they heard each other’s voices on the phone, it gave them a moment of relief, but only for a moment.

“So...how are you?” Tom asks nervously. He wanted to pick his words out carefully in hopes that he wouldn’t upset her.

“Im okay.” Y/N responds quietly as she looks back at her phone. No message yet, maybe she was in the clear and that gave her a small boost of confidence. It was going to be okay. “How about you?” She asks back, not really sure how to carry the conversation. In any case, how does one continue talking to an ex without making it awkward? Let alone how does one talk to someone without the fear of being blackmailed.

“Yeah Im great...really great.” Tom lies and chuckles nervously.

Y/N could tell by the tone of his voice how nervous he was. A habit she always found to be adorable for him. Y/N rolled her eyes with a slight smile before she questions him in a serious tone “Why did you call Tom?”

Tom closes his eyes, letting out a stressed sigh. “I miss you Y/N and I dont care what you say or what you said to me that night, but this wasn’t supposed to happen.”

“I miss you too but things happen beyond our control, Tom. Sometimes it just can’t be helped.” Y/N responds nonchalantely, staring at her phone again. No messages still.

“Thats a load of bullshit and you know it. We were supposed to get through anything. Fuck the rumors fuck everything! This isn’t like you Y/N!” Tom vents out every feeling and thought he had since she left. “You say you miss me but then what are we doing? Why are we continuing to hurt ourselves like this?”

Y/N shakes her head, knowing deep down the reason why but could never say. Not unless she wanted to ruin his dream. She could never. “It’s not that simple.” She croaked.

“We would have found a way to get through it, but you gave up so easily. I know for a fact my Y/N never gave up without a fight.”

Y/N looks again at her phone, and no messages were to be found. Maybe she could tell him, and they wouldnt know, but Y/N knew better. Somewhere out there there was someone always watching her every move. “I cant do this right now. Goodbye Tom.” Y/N hangs up as she continues to cry herself to sleep. So much for sanctuary.

Its the morning after, and as Y/N heads downstairs, she hears soft laughter and conversations echoing through the halls. For a second it almost sounded like Tom’s, and she hurried toward the room only to be disappointed. In the living room was Matt and Kate as they made small talk awaiting for Y/N’s arrival.

“Y/N! You’re awake!” Kate exclaims as she gets up from the seat to give her a hug. “Look who decided to drop by!”

Matt looked up at Y/N and gives her a shy smile and wave. He’s dressed in his navy blue LBI shirt and cream colored shorts. It was typical high school Matt...nothing had changed with him.

“Yes I see that....I’m sorry did we have plans and I forgot?” Y/N asked confused.

“No actually uh I invited him over because I knew you wanted to catch up with him after last week..so I pulled some strings.” Kate whispers.

“You..what?” Y/N asked annoyed, her eyes glaring and her brows furrowed. If there was one thing Y/N hated it was blind dates. She had stressed that over and over throughout the years that she hated it, especially with people she used to have romantic feelings for. The keyword..USED.

“Cmon Y/N. Remember this was the time for you to move on and forget. Plus you wouldn’t want to send him away after he came here just to see you!” Kate tries her best to sell it, she had to...there’s wasnt really a choice.

Y/N looked back at Matt and groaned silently to her best friend. “Fine I’ll go, but this is the last blind date you’re ever setting me up on AND you’re doing the dishes.” She emphasized as she got ready and grabbed her purse.

To say Y/N was surprised was an understatment. For sure, she had a feeling this was going to be awkward in so many ways like any other first dates, but this...wasn’t too bad. Though she realized it wasn’t a date this was just two old friends catching up from the past.

She learned a lot about him and how his younger brother Steven was working on becoming an engineer and how his little sister Emily was also grown up and working towards becoming a physical therapist. As for Matt, he was working in the city too as an accountant for a finance firm. While they continued to eat their lunch at Chelsea’s Market, she couldn’t help but make the comparisons.

Matt didn’t dress up like Tom, didnt make her laugh like Tom does, didnt make her blush the way Tom does, didnt smile like Tom, and when he touched her hand...she didnt feel the goosebumps the way Tom would. It was clear. He wasn’t Tom and could never be Tom.

The date came to a close, but Y/N hadn’t really gathered much from it since she was so focused on Tom. Every word Matt had said to her barely made it through. She’d be lying if she didnt say the date was okay but she’d be lying even more if she had said she’d enjoy it.

She looked into his blue eyes as he looked into hers. Matt tried to lean forward to give her a kiss, but Y/N moved away. She couldnt. Not when Tom was still present in her thoughts and her mind. “Im sorry...I just got out of a serious relationship and well —” Y/N whispers feeling guilt in her heart.

“No no. It’s fine really. Maybe I was too forward with this and I had no idea....I’m sorry.” Matt laughs, feeling heavily disappointed. “I’ll uhh I’ll see you around?” Y/N nods as she waves him goodbye.

The next day, Tom wakes up in his bed still praying that this whole phase was just a nightmare he’s still having trouble waking up from. Today was not that day. He got up and dressed appropiately knowing that today would be a meeting for his upcoming project. He had forgotten all about it especially with everything going on. When he arrived and entered the room with Harrison, Natalie also appeared sitting in one of the chairs with a smile and coffee on hand.

“Jesus you’re like everywhere now.” Harrison speaks out taking the seat across from her, while Tom takes the seat next to Harrison.

“Well I mean I do live with you guys temporarily until my flat gets fixed, and I did get cast in the same movie as Tom.” She laughs pointing out the obvious.

Tom looked up, his eye wide open and brows raised. He completely forgot the fact that she was going to be playing his love interest for the film. He tried to recall if he had told Y/N about it before and if maybe that’s why she was also mad. Maybe if he told her now, that would make her feel better? Tom was lost in his thoughts he didnt hear the other publicists in the room calling out to him. “Tom are you listening?”

Harrison quickly hits his best friend to wake him up from his thoughts. “Huh? Uh..no sorry.” Tom confesses, looking down at the table.

The publicists, both roll their eyes in annoyance. “We’re telling you that you need to do a lot of PR for this movie in order to boost the sales, and recoginition for both you and Natalie. This means..you’re going to have to pretend you’re in a relationship for some time.”

Tom and Harrison are now fully attentive and furious. “What?! Im not doing PR for this. That is low for the both of us. We shouldnt have to fake a relationship to get our work across” Tom yells out fury burning in his brown eyes.

“I know Tom, but no one watches it for the films nowadays it’s about the image, and right now we’re trying to help both of yours and Natalie’s. You’ve been looking liek a depressed bloke this past month and Natalie is trying to get some exposure in the business.” The publicists expalin. “Harrison, help us out here.”

“Look mate, Im just his assistant. It’s up to Tom if he wants to do this or not.” Harrison speaks out as he points to his best friend. He faces Tom and whispers, “You don’t have to do this mate, there are other projects out there.”

Tom nods, as he looks at the room of people. He closes his eyes, but all he could see was Y/N. Deep down, Tom knew he couldnt do this to her. “I..I don’t think I can do this.”

Natalie and the publicists’ eyes shot up in fear, unhappy with the response given. They knew there was only one thing they could do now. “Ah I understand. It’s because of a girl isn’t?” Natalie’s publicist speaks out. Tom looks at her and then down at the table, as he slowly nods his head. “Yes well Natalie’s told me all about her. Seems like a bright girl, but believe Tom she doesn’t love you as much as you thought she did.”

Tom’s eyes dart towards the publicist as his eyes continue to stare down in anger. He was angry, pissed off that they could ever make that assumption. “Fuck you! You don’t know anything!” His tone set in anger.

“Oh..but we do. See you think Y/N is remaining as faithful as you after a breakup, but why is she already out with another guy.” The publicist continues. She hands her phone to Tom as he swipes through the pictures of Y/N and Matt’s date. He saw Y/N smile at Matt, laugh with him, and touch his shoulder. Yet, the one picture that broke him the most was the one where Matt almost kissed Y/N. While Tom didn’t know the backstory, he could very well imagine how it went. Everything in him shattered, and his eyes started to well up.

“Mate..there’s gotta be an explanation for all of this. Y/N wouldn’t move on from you that quickly. You know her..she wouldn’t. This is all rubbish.” Harrison tried to reason to his heartbroken best friend. For once, he couldn’t rule out Natalie. She didn’t blackmail Y/N, someone else did.

“Fine. I’ll do it.” Tom grumbles as he gets up and walks away.

The world was quiet for the next two days, and it almost seemed like a break from all of it. Back in the New York, Y/N was minding her own business in the apartment with Kate, when she got a text message.

Unknown

Answer the next phone call. ❤️

Y/N’s phone rings and it’s Tom. Her hands are shaking, afraid of what was going to happen. “Y/N.” Tom says shortly, tone filled with disappointment.

“Tom” Y/N replies, her voice shaking.

This wasn’t sanctuary anymore. This was hell.

“Tell me it’s not true.” Tom speaks out, needing to hear the truth. “Did you go out with another guy?”

Y/N hesistated for a moment, unsure of what to say. She could either lie or tell the truth but it didnt matter at this point she was fucked either way. “Yes.” She breathes out. “But — ”

“It’s not what I think? Right?” His tone getting louder. “So it’s okay for you to judge me with Natalie, but not okay for me to judge you with some bloke you’re with?”

“Matt is my friend and I had no choice in that matter!” Y/N yells out, unhappy with how Tom was confronting her.

“Did he threaten you?”

Y/N hesitated for a moment, not him but someone was threatening her. “No.”

“Then you did have a choice.”

As soon as Y/N was going to speak, she got a new message. This time it was a picture from Unknown. One of Tom and Natalie getting cozy as they walked out of a building. Natalie was smiling and Tom had his arms wrapped around her shoulder. “Yeah, guess you made yours too with Natalie.”

Tom was in shock, did she know about the him and Natalie. “Y/N it’s not what you —”

“What? What I think? Yeah that makes two of us, but you want to make assumptions? Fine. You look like you already moved on yourself, but moving on with a girl you know I can’t stand...that’s an all time low for you.” Y/N hangs up and throws her phone across the room. Kate quickly comes to comfort her best friend.

“He...he moved on.” She sobbed quietly in Kate’s arms.

“I know...it’s going to be okay.” Kate whispers. Tears started to also fall on Kate’s eyes as she saw how much pain her best friend was in. She looked at her phone and quickly deleted the pictures she had taken of Y/N and Matt. “Im so sorry. I..have to tell you something.”

Y/N had fallen fast asleep, exhausted from crying. Just when Kate was ready to tell the truth...the door rang.

“Kate!” Harrison and Harry said spoke out in relief as they hugged her.

“Hey..what are you guys doing here?” She asked surprised but also relieved.

Harrison and Harry looked at each. “We want to help find out the truth.”

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moontours · 4 years

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could you give me a rundown on the personalities of the spider people? (gwen, cindy, miles, peter, etc. anyone else you can think of?) and like what you think stands out the most in their personalities or whatever? this question is probably a hassle so if it’s too much u don’t have to! i’m just getting into reading spider comics and i just want more information from someone that isn’t wiki marvel lol. it doesn’t have to be all of them either! whatever you can work with!

ill do the best i can!!! also ill add a bit of backstory bc i feel like their backstories actually shape their personalities as well

peter parker: im going to keep it short for him bc honestly i feel like everyone knows what hes like and what his backstory is but: he has a huge sense of responsibility which was instilled in him by his aunt and uncle. honestly has a lot of issues to work through and probably needs a therapist but he uses humour as a coping mechanism, which is really apparent when hes in fights with others n everyone tells him to shut up jhbhabshdj. very, very loyal and protective of the ones that he loves, hence the whole mask thing and it’s really important to him that he keeps the list of people that knows his identity short. tbh kind of an asshole when he wants to be and like ... has this unhinged, feral rage in him that comes out from time to time. also cannot cope with loss at all.

miles morales: extremely intelligent, kinda reluctant to become spider-man in the first place and was also told that he shouldnt be spider-man which was. u know. annoying. but anyways he got passed all of that. he’s honestly just the kindest, sweetest kid ur ever going to encounter. his family means the entire world to him and he would literally give up being spidey for them like. he literally does not want to let them down ever. he honestly got fucked over pretty hard in two marvel events (civil war ii and secret empire) in which they all thought that miles would become a murderer but hes not. he’s so far from a murderer and literally everyone who has ever met him knows that, which is why tony and natasha tried so hard to protect him but this entire event kinda like ... Soured the whole ‘avengers’ thing for miles WHICH then lead to the champions.

gwen stacy: the hero of her own story. literally takes no shit from no one and is so so so independent but also bc she’s so scared of other people getting hurt the way that peter did. her sense of responsibility imo rivals peter’s, which is why she puts on the mask every single night and is also the reason why she served time in prison too, bc she felt as if she had to for all of the things she did. she honestly has a really hard time getting to know new people too like she is very guarded (i.e when she and cindy first met jbhhabshda) but she’s a really good friend once like she opens up. also being spider-woman/gwen/whatever means a lot to her like when her powers were failing she was so desperate to get them back which ties back to her strong sense of responsibility, which i think also like relates to what she knows abt 616 gwen bc like. it is SO fucking important to gwen that she is the hero of her own story and the fact that in her universe, the spider chose her, means literally everything to her.

cindy moon: she was bitten by the same spider as peter and i think out of all of them, she freaked out the most. peter was scared but saw this as a chance to act as like a guardian for others, and so did gwen. miles was like .. a bit afraid and reluctant but he owned up to being spider-man fairly quickly, but for cindy, she was so terrified of her powers to the point where she chose to stay inside the bunker instead of leaving for the safety of herself and her family. i think what separates cindy from the others is that while they run towards responsibility, she kinda shies away from it bc shes afraid of what she can do. but she does try so hard to confront her fears which i love about her. she’s also really cunning, witty and clever but also she has this massive anger in her, due to everything that happened to her which led her to staying in the bunker and the disappearance of her family. idk to me she’s the most human of them all

jessica drew: was experimented on as a kid, ex-hydra turned shield agent so u can imagine she’s seen a lot of shit. also the skrull queen took her face and infiltrated her team which fucked her up badly after bc it not only caused her entire team to not trust her but also the fact that no one noticed that she got switched out was like .... pretty shitty u know? anyways she also began to lose her powers before the invasion which fucked her up bc she really did come to embrace her powers as part of who she was and hydra told her to join them (like i said shes ex hydra) and they would help restore her powers n fury told her to do it as a double agent but this allowed the skrulls to swap her out so like. she seriously got fucked by this hence, trust issues. she then became an agent of sword after like hjbahsbdhaj her life seriously bounces from organization to organization bc she seeks order in her life. anyways she’s literally like the mom friend of the group and she adores having brunch with cindy and gwen also she’s a literal mom too so like. mom instincts. lots of trust issues, issues with herself but absolutely takes no shit from anyone and also isnt afraid to use her pheromone powers for personal gain bc shes a bad bitch like that

#i hope this was at least. semi helpful #this took SO long oh my god jbfhabsdhjasd #long post #anon #asks

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leightum · 5 years

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best posie moments from the legacies scripts

you can view all the things on my twitter but most notable:

Josie: our mom was miss mystic falls. lizzie's been dreaming about this day since we were little p: so why compete at all? j: basically, im there to make everyone else look bad p: except lizzie j:exactly.

J: Im gonna trip now. P: What? Josie takes a look at the judges and attempts to fall. Thinking fast, Penelope spins around and TANGO DIPS Josie. What was supposed to be a blunder becomes an impressive move.

P: Is following in your mothers footsteps the coolest thing you can imagine? Would being Miss Mystic Falls bring your family history full circle in a way that Lizzie would never appreciate? a beat - - Josie regards Penelope -- that was oddly specific. J: Why did you just say that? P: Lets just finish the dance. off Josie, eyeing her oddly

P: What sorrows are we drowning? Landon: Girl troubles P: samesies

P: What are you going to do when I'm not here to fight for you anymore? J: what does that mean? P Forget it. I'm through trying to hold you up.

P: you know, I spent the last few weeks waiting for you to give me a single reason to stay. Instead you gave me a thousand reasons to go.

1.14 kiss description: She kisses Josie. One for the ages. A final smile and she exits.

Hope: I could use some help finding Josie PENELOPE: (instantly serious) What's wrong?

Josie grabs the axe and WHAM. Kills [the zombie] dead. P: Damn. That was hot. As Penelope watches Josie, powerful. Clearly smitten...

J: I made the selfish move and now you could grow tomatoes in my hair.

Penelope kisses Josie, deep. Romantic and passionate. J: I hate you. P: I know. Josie kisses her once more, then heads for the showers without looking back.

A spirited young witch, PENELOPE PARK (16) launches into a chant. Outside, Lizzie nudges Josie, teasing L: she who shall not be named J: (elbowing her) Talking about her gives her power.

Josie enters and they quickly separate. Hurt, she hurriedly exits. Penelope grins wickedly. Always a shit-stirrer.

(after setting penelope on fire) Josie walks away. Eyes dark. Not the only Saltzman Twin battling a darkness inside.

MG: How are you gonna keep him away? Penelope: You just do you. and add in some daisies and hot pinks and make sure theres organic cheese puffs. MG: why? P: because thats what josie likes. its her birthday too. MG: since when do you care about josies feelings? Speaking of broken hearts, you wrecker her. P: I dumped josie because she refused to step out of lizzie's oppressive shadow and into her own sun. that doesnt mean i dont want her to have a nice freaking birthday.

Josie going into her room. she sees penelope waiting for her. P: lemme guess. today never should have happened -- im bad for you - - we have to keep our distance.. how am i doing so far? J: today shouldnt have happened. we bring out the worst in each other. we cant be together like that. But we could be friends. not "fake ex friends" like, actual friends. P: why would you want to be friends with someone whos bad for you? J: after today, i guess i still believe people can change. Josie heads into her room, leaving penelope to consider that.

Hope sips her frap, while josie eyes penelope -- eyeing her - - as she passes through. H: whats the deal with penelope? are those her bedroom eyes, or her 'i will be your doom' eyes? J: both? im just trying to avoid her. i know where that road leads

As she dashes off, josie sighs, miserable. she glances over to see penelope who is rocking this outfit, BTW. against her better judgment, josie moves towards her. Josie floats just a little too close to her. J: maybe im sick of always doing a good job. wanna get out of here? Off Penelope's surprise and delight--

H: Not so fast, thelma and lousie. Penelope flies back slamming against a wall. canes fall on her --insult to injury. Angered, Josie forms a crackling fireball in her hands. J: no one throws baby in a corner.

J: Ho do you always do that? It's like you appear outta smoke. P: I could, you know...

Theyre greeted by none other than a ragged urchin version of penelope park. (au #3 where josie is dead)

Penelope is winning her over. just then, the spotlight hits them. they descend, arm in arm. it seems like josie is enjoying the moment with penelope. but then she catches eyes with lizzie. josie takes a deep breath. she looks to penelope who shakes her head, she knows what comes next. as they near the bottom of the stairs, josie falls. disgusted, penelope looks down on josie... penelope steps over her, leaving her alone on the floor

penelope never actually gave josie the letter in the scripts. the letter itsself is never mentioned until 1.14, julie had penelope leave for shock value im guessing it was a last minute decision.

#posie #its a read more but just in case #long post

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bagilgulhaze · 4 years

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Tw; suicide attempt, mental illness, suicide: I'm safe, everyone is safe, nothing happened currently or at any recent time. No danger, not about me.

I know I'm barely active on tumblr but after forever of not venting on social media, there is just no where like tumblr and its illusion of anonymity to do so. Like. Hm. I know many suicidal people in my life, you kmow, almost all people I know are mentally ill to varying degrees, I am mentally ill. I'm fortunate enough to rarely if ever feel suicidal I felt hopeless and self destructive and trapped. At height of my depression I felt like i understand why people commit suicide: because they really cant care about anything, and I got how they could do it. But I didnt want to do it, or seriously consider it, I just understood how ppl living lifetime like that without being able to see themselves ever get better for even moments, just . Going through life like that not like me temporarily do it.

My suicidal friends get actually suicidal not just like me, but I never felt concerned...for their life. I felt concerned for their well being, deeply, concerned that they are in a place where they want to die, where it's something they think about at all and sometimes think about a lot. Concerned that they are doing so badly mentally that they are constantly fighting suicidal thoughts to stay alive, but I knew, that unless something drastic changed with their life/support system/mental state, at least i was never worried about suicide I was worried they're suicidal.

And then theres my roommate :( and they're more than just my roommate, they really grew to be like, my family? They're an older sibling like, in every way but blood to me at this point, and we joke about everythinnnggggggg like everything like from their growing up in extreme poverty to like any of our mental illnesses and like whatever but with much love and never actual sting - and part of that is the fact that I know they are depressed/suicidal, even if not actively you know but, it is there. They couldnt finish lots of milestones due to paralyzing depression that didnt allow them to leave the house or even speak for a decade. But - literally. which is crazy because they're one of the smartest most educated & intelligent people I know and they never even finished highschool. So what there is to do but joke you know 🤷‍♀️ life sucked, we're here now, still struggling but vaguely better and very alive, most of the time (to both lol), so we genuinely support each other but we also banter - " shut up I'm gonna kill you!!!" "You keep promising.."

But the thing is, that this isnt the first time where it really hits me how close they were to actually committing suicide you know, I knew they were more serious about suicide than most of my suicidal friends but, it just, really hit me you know. The first time they told me about a suicide attempt they were drunk and it was very brief, making another point and also talking about something else, and I.. was really shaken. They didnt notice at the time because again, they were drunk (?) And I mean i didnt mind them talking, it just really effected me. But this time it caught me off guard again... they casually said something about moving somewhere, and I was like omg you wanted to move there I didnt know, and they were like yeah bc (but there was a friend over so they said nvm later lol) and then...I casually asked why they wanted to move and. They were like yeah bc I was planning to commit suicide and (their actual plan, not down to detail of the suicide they never say that clearly but you know, the atmosphere which would allow and how they prepared to it). And it's never said dramatically, or with more than a sentence or two but it just suddenly become so real. Like. I can see. I can see them planning to do it and I dont know how and I dont wanna know how hut I know that in at least one point in their life they knew exactly how, and if ambulance (and then police came too) wasnt involved it would have happened.

And then I think about one of my best friends who lost his ex roommate last year, she committed suicide and it really shook our community bc she was a major figure here. And he was only roommates with her for short period of time, and they were close, not as close as me and Jac are though. And ...of course, it was devastating to him, he didnt think it would really happen you know? Who does? He knee she is struggling we are all struggling and then it happened and then it was final and then it was too late. And I keep. Keep thinking in those moments. What if it will happen to me, what if I'll be in his place one day in the future what if things will go so wrong, and I'll be the one who lost her ex roomate but it will be so much worse because I'll lose my sibling/family...

This time they werent really drunk so... they figured I'm actually concerned and were like oh no dont...dont look like that I'm fine , shouldnt have said anything aw maya dont make that face etc. And they are. They are fine right now, and I'm not gonna make big deal out of this and I didnt I just kinda. Made a face and made a small joke u know and was like you're screwed bc if u had any plans you shouldn't have become my roommate bc now ur disallowed of dying: ever

.em k kwkkzkwls xanywayyy I'm fine nothing happened really those t hi bugs happened in the past and they're not in that place now. Medication is different life situation is different they improved ..a lot you know mentally. I just. Yeah

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its-3am-sadness · 4 years

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getting lost up in the past— this is what I found

Friday February 1st, 2013:

ugh..im sitting in third hour..i wanna cry, but i cant theres to many people..

can anyone really save me? ..no.. noone ever can.. i just wanna be happy, truely always happy.. )': ughhhhhhhhhhhh! i gotta go..

Monday February 4th, 2013:

holy shit that was a longg weekend.. i almost cut saturday.. i got a new razor & everythingg.. Jake told me to go chuck itt in the snow, soo i did, but then on sunday i went & found itt.. soo i have itt in my ipod case like my other one.

I stayed up till 3 saturday nightt watching 'Enchanted' i love that movie now (: and i sent Jake a 7 and a 9 page text.. he was asleep though..but his best friend is a girl & i have nothing at all against that, i don't have a reason to hate her at all, i havent even met her, but i still am so super jealous.. i hate that they hang out and slepover together and i dont know, i trust him.. but look what happend with the last guy, i trusted him with all my heart, i never thought he would cheat on me and he ended up fucking his ex-girlfriend and lying about it.. im so scared.. i dont wanna be here.. i was thinking saturday & yesterday how i wish i was single just so i don't have to be so paranoid..but i love being around Jake that i wouldnt dream of ending it..

Shawntay said i should tell him about how i feel with him & his besty, but i idont wanna be the dumb bitchy girlfriend who is all 'you cant talk to girls-blahh blahh blahhk' shitt, ya know?? So ima just leave it to myself because i don't care..

im really trying not to cut.. Tabby (my ex's girlfriend) told me that it takes 21 days to break a habbit & we both last cut on the 22nd, soooo we'll see how that goes..

on wednesday it'll be me & jake's 4 months.. & next thursday is valenitines (how ever you spell itt) day and i wanna get him something.. hmm..

my tits now have names.. right one is Adam & the left is Ryder (:

I love him, my baby. <3 soo much.. </3

Wednesday February 6th, 2013:

today is 4 months with my baby!! i love him sooo much. dude. <3 he is so amazingg. i just want to push him in the snow and kiss him and be crazy. i am crazy about him.. like super crazy aboutt him. <3 i dont wantt him to be taken awayyy! ):

Hunter said he was going to ask me out last week on friday on the bus.. god he's a douche.. he broke my heart so many countless times and just left.. and my ex. my good lord, he is such a dick. im sick of them both fucking with my head and heart. ive moved on and it Shawntay's words 'have a new life with a better guy'.. god i love her. i dont know where i would be right now if it werent for her.. <3 i love you shawny'z forever <3

Friday February 8th, 2013:

well..i almost cut last nightt, i didnt but i was aboutt to.. im not taking my meds, im just throwing them in a bag & ima sell them.. they weren't working anyway soo..

Im seriously so sccared that Jake's going to leave me.. even though he says he's not going to an yada yada yada, but still.. im paranoid.. it's just who i am... i love him with all my heart though.. ya know??

im diguesting..im a whore..a damn slut.. in love with a guy who prolly cant stand me.. im fucking pathetic.. why..why..why would, HOW could anyone like me, or put up with me.. i mean, what the hell..im a little ugly bitch. a fat, pathetic, stupid, idiotic, loud, sluty little damn bitch...fuckkkkkkkk.