#some specific discourse is just this

[sapphire-theseainequator]

Can your problem with fandom really be solved if you are a person who thinks the only media can cater to you are made by the same people who share the same genitals (or hormones) as you

And your problem is that people who share the same genitals (or hormones) as you are not always making what you want

And instead of learning fandom navigating skill, you would rather put yourself in a dome where you think anyone who make what you demand must have different genitals (or hormones) than you?

[caspergs]

every time someone famous is outed as being a shitty person theres people going “this is why you shouldn’t idolize celebrities,” “why are you sad that a bad person is being exposed as a bad person,” like PLEASE just let people be upset that someone they liked sucks

[moranamorena]

If I see one more person saying that Jason Todd's fans only like him because they don't read comics I'm gonna lose it

Dude, they're the only ones who actually read his comics, especially his Robin runs. The amount of times I saw Jason's hater making a statement about him that isn't true to most if not any canon is riddiculus And I saw the even higher amount of people arguing and disagreeing with Jason's fans over facts based on actual panels from comics

If you hate Jason for being and angry Robin who disobeyed Bruce and got himself killed you already lost an argument

If you hate Jason for being a stupid brute who stands out only because he kills people and uses guns you already lost an argument

If you hate Jason for "stealing" from other characters and not having story elements unique to his own character you already lost an argument

Jason Todd fanbase is as intense as it is because OTHER COMIC BOOK READERS AND BATFAMILY STANS DON'T READ HIS COMICS

It's really frustrating to have other fans claiming you don't know your favourite (or one of your favourites) characters when you know for a fact that you had read so much more about him. And that you have to witness his character being butchered by both the new comic writers and people in fandom over and over again

[quaggyday]

Its fine if you see Kanji as straight or use she/her for Naoto. I appreciate how Kanji's storyline is about accepting that its okay to not have masculine hobbies and how queerness and toxic masculinity are linked. I appreciate how rooted in a Japanese subtext Naoto's story is and how your going to have to understand it from a different perspective of a different life. Both of these characters I like and find interesting.

But I swear, if another Youtuber or other says in some variation "Thinking Naoto or Kanji's stories are queer means your MISSING THE POINT OF THE THEMES OF TRUTH IN P4" or that as they are in canon their arcs are perfect and not needing any sort of change and are not at all at least a little dated or problematic" I am going to start screeching.

[sweetmage]

I swear I cannot look at many posts or threads about Clair Obscur (or at least not the comments) because so many people are arguing over which is the "good" ending and which is the "bad" ending and which ending is more "ethical and moral" and which isn't and I am just like... my beloveds, not everything is completely black and white and can be easily categorized into these simple all-encompassing labels. I for one find the so-called "good and moral" ending to be absolutely horrifying and hit really close to home in a bad way while I find the "bad, unethical ending" to be also horrifying but in a way that I find interesting and tolerable. Yet, still, I very much see why different people with different life experiences and perspectives appreciate the other one more. That's nuance, babe! Which I think is the whole thing. If you are expecting a game full of unreliable narrators, deeply flawed characters, opposing yet understandable perspectives, and conflicting narratives to suddenly wrap up into very binary and objective "Good" and "Bad" endings then I am afraid you have greatly misunderstood both the game and the endings as well as the general intent of the story.

Both of the endings are as good or as awful as you make them out to be. Someone always wins and someone always loses and whichever one you find more palatable is entirely up to your own observations through the lens of your personal experiences. I don't get these arguments and shaming because there is IS no objective "correct" answer and to say otherwise is missing the point big time.

[sparring-spirals]

I was initially clipping this to capture the overwhelmingly accurate, absolutely devastating hilarity of "you went for realistic, and sadly, you nailed it". And then just kept recording because I really fucking love the discussion about how to balance the line between like:

You are trying to tell a story that feels good and gives you the kind of lift you might be looking for in an explicitly fantasy story,

vs

How to ensure it still feels grounded and rewarding in a way where you can "bring this good feeling back to earth" at the end.

Like they're talking about TTRPG's but they clearly make parallels to other forms of storytelling/worldbuilding mediums, like movies, and. like. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the framing of "you really recreated the feeling of powerlessness..." and wanting the fantasy element to manifest in there being the clearer, straightforward ways to solve complex issues, vs trying to ensure that you can have a victory and it feels feasible and substantial and applicable in some way, and has something you can take out of the fantasy world and hold with you back on "terra firma".

Its tricky! Its a tricky thing to balance, and I don't think there's a single "right" answer nor should there be because it depends. It depends on the story, and the intent, and the setting, and the medium, and etc. Big fan of this framework to explain it.

[utilitycaster]

I've mentioned I don't care for the implications of Reincarnate for FCG but to expand briefly, I think there's something that sits very ill with me about a character's final realization - that they are truly alive despite being a constructed entity and that they have agency - coming back as an arbitrary organic being with no input into who they are.

[welcometogrouchland]

I'm going to be so real I do not understand tim & steph shippers who feel that Steph dating Tim again would save her character. You can make an argument that giving Tim a more compelling love interest would be beneficial for him! And you can at least make an argument that the fujo mischaracterization of Steph would stop. However she'd still, inevitably, be treated as a prop character/extension for someone more popular 😭 it also wouldn't make her appear in more books! Tim doesn't have many frequent appearances at the moment either! You can just say you like the couple and want them back together without acting like you have some kind of moral stance

[theygender]

Just discovered the term les4les. Are we really trying to make biphobia cool again

[torchickentacos]

i will always shout praises of bi4bi but given recent discourse I feel the need to say that I love bi4het too! I just love bisexuality in general in its many forms, and anyone who only likes it when it's 'queer enough' for them is biphobic. Bisexuals should be able to bring their LaMe CiShEt BoYfRiEnD to pride without being made to feel like spectators and outsiders to their own event.

[daisywords]

thinking about this post but also it's more than that. do you ever think about how stories starring men are allowed to be about humanity but stories starring women have to be about Womanhood

[ghostinacardboardbox]

CC is one of my new favourite things ever but ill respect your dislike of it far more than i ever will going "I'm not saying you cant criticise the musical but" then express discomfort with people calling out the antisemitism

CC is my least favorite Starkid show ever but I'll respect your appreciation of it far more than I ever will people who go "there's nuance here" in a post that is fully just using polite language to shut down criticism. I genuinely don't know what's so hard about this.

Anyway it's been a Rough Time to be in the Starkid fandom and actually want to complain about things I disliked in a show I was incredibly excited for. Somehow having literally any issues with the show at all means I must be someone who is only here for Hatchetfield and is just trying to bully Starkid back into doing Hatchetfield stuff. Piss on the poor website.

[epickiya722]

"Only Yuji influenced Sukuna's decision to choose a different path!"

"Only Uraume influenced Sukuna!"

Maybe a hot take! Maybe an unpopular opinion, I don't know but...

As someone whose favorite character is Yuji and also likes Uraume, like that's my ice icon right there, I think it's absurd to think that only one of them played a part in Sukuna's decision in the afterlife to choose a different path, let alone argue over it.

I say that they both had influence over Sukuna's decision for a different path.

[courtneydeservesbetter]

‘Is it wrong that I could not stand the caitvi sex scene cuz it felt wrong to watch them, it felt fetishizing, I much prefer the wholesome stuff that jinx and ekko were doing’ SHUT UP. SHHH I literally cheered what is happening

[aemiron-main]

staring at the shots with the trans flag colours in the latest episode of the “feeling like you’re living in someone else’s body & having your bodily autonomy and rights stripped from you” show:

(especially with the matrix being obvious inspiration for severance vs neo being a trans allegory 🤨🤨🤨)

[subeddieweek]

You understand that sub Eddie is a term used and tagged widely by the entire Eddie fandom and all Eddie ships right? Totally fair to only want your event to be Steddie but you could have picked a more specific name instead of just borrowing one that already exists for everyone. It’s not fair to bring hate to people that are just minding their business with no idea this event is even happening but now they have people commenting on their shit that other ships aren’t allowed. Being rude because you didn’t know an event had commandeered the term sub Eddie for the week. There’s enough hate in this space already.

We picked the name because it was available! Any other event group could have done the same if we hadn't, but out of all the other media and ships that involve someone named Eddie, no one did. Any other event can pick their own, more specific name, too, if they want.

Trust us, we understand being hated in our fan communities, but this ask is a waste of our time and yours. We just finished up our second year with this being a Steddie-only event, so this isn't a new thing we suddenly "commandeered," and we didn't consider anyone would see it that way when we picked our name. Assuming we had malicious intent over something so small like this is unfair.

The standalone Sub Eddie Munson tag can be used by anyone at ANY time and we've never said anything to the contrary. This is part of why we specified this year to tag our specific blog (which has all our rules pinned and easy to find so there should be minimum confusion as to what/who this event is for) because other people use the same tags we use.

All we have asked is that people don't use our event collection on AO3 for unrelated works which is really reasonable seeing as we personally made the collection and moderate it ourselves. If there are other events going on, event moderators should be making their own collections. If there isn't another event going on, people shouldn't be using a random moderated event collection anyway.

No one speaks for our event except for the official social media pages and we are unaware of any conflict happening in other places. Sorry this is happening, but we didn't ask for that and that's the fault of people who think they can backseat-moderate an event they aren't actually involved with.

And to anyone who feels the need to comment on works they feel don't "fit," the only official fics for our event are in our official collection on AO3 that we have linked numerous times, or they are reblogged on our official social medias. If it's not here or in the collection, it's entirely separate and you shouldn't be speaking for the event. We have given you a way to read only fics for this event by moderating the collection ourselves, so looking elsewhere is the fault of your own, not the writers simply using the sub Eddie tag.

tl;dr - you can use the sub Eddie Munson tag, literally nobody cares. Other events can pick their own names, we took it because it was available. Just don't use collection we personally made or randomly tag our URL/@ and we don't have an issue because we moderate our event and show everyone what's actually part of it. No one speaks for our event except for us, so stop doing that if you are.