#theory rottmnt

[lia-lagami-tmnt]

1) начну свой обзор с первой страницы.

Тут мы видим Армаггона(который слизняк), что появлялся в tmnt2012, которого послали трицератоны.

Футуры Донни, Лео, Микки, Раф, Эйприл и Кейси.

При них остались их характеры, что очень хорошо.

(Так же Раф не изменяет себе в юморе, хе-хе)

(ТУТ ЕСТЬ АРМАГГОН И ТРИЦЕРАТОНЫ!!!)

Сразу видно, что это ИХ БУДУЩЕЕ.

Это не будущее с крнегами, ибо у них у всех чёрные бинты и у Рафа после битвы с Крнегами в прошлой для Кейси, а для них настоящем(уф как сложно) порванная бандана, повязка на глазу, где сидел Кренг. Шрам на пластроне от главного Кренга. (У него роьо рука и зуба неееет😭😭😭, так же у него значительно выросли шипы на панцире)

В будущем Кейси, у них вся цветная одежда, а не черные бинты.

(Микки уже мудрецом стал, ты ж моя зайка😭😭😭)

И да, на этой странице, после фильма, прошло 20 лет.

2) вторая страница.

Кейси, Эйприл и, видимо, Кассандра с Тодом и Драксумом и Разгромом живут вместе, как я думаю.

Тут написано, что Лео из-за ошибки с порталами не успел попрощаться с отцом.

Так же проскальзывает натура Лео, с его сарказмом.

Они переименовывались из бешеных псов, в подростки мутанты ниндзя черепашки, именно в фильме, что доказывает, что это ИХ БУДУЩЕЕ ПОСЛЕ ФИЛЬМА. Что подтверждается ещё одной фразой Лео, что они очередной раз спасли мир, от инопланетного вторжен��я.

3) Микки без нанесения вреда себе может использовать порталы во времени, потому что ему в этом помогала РЕНЕТ!!!! Она мб обучала его, не знаю, но главное, с её помощью, он не вредит себе и спокойно делает путешествие во времени. Только не без ошибок, в какой промежуток.

4)четвёртая страница.

(На первом скане, что, потомки трицератоннов? Хпха, шучу)

Маленький Лео, заметил себя футура. На других страницах, будет написано, что Сплинтер говорил, что у них есть брат и сестра. Вот та самая сестра - правая рука Мамочки - Фрида Хамато Сплинтерсона.

( я думаю, что она узнала, что это её братья и видно, что она сама показалась перед братьями. Мб она подозревала, что они родственники, когда Лео и Сплинт были на боях Нексус в конце первого сезона. Но она сама открылась перед ними, ждём брата.)

Отношения с Лу Джитсу и Мамочкой.

5) пятая страница.

Тут черепахи после фильма, ПРЯМ ПОСЛЕ ФИЛЬМА ВЫЛЕЗЛИ.

Футур Дел уже знал, что слайснет его прическу, он уже знал, что сделает паст Лео, ОН УЖЕ ЗНАААЛ, АААА.

Настоящее - т.е. события после фильма, но прошлое для футур Лео из каноничного будущего после фильма. (В НАЧАЛЕ ФИЛЬМА ЭТО ОДНО БУДУЩЕЕ, А ТУТ ДРУГОЕ, ОНИ ИЗМЕНИЛИ ХОД ИСТОРИИ, ЙЯЯЯПИИИ)

6)Шестая страница.

Мне нечего сказать, кроме комментария Донни и футур Лео. Хахаха, ты и ни таким был раздражающим, особенно, если посмотреть вырезанные сцены из фильма, ТАМ ОН ВООБЩЕ БЕСИЛ.

7) седьмая страница.

Они прощаются, ГРУСТЬ.💔

Со Сплинтером прощаются Пеструшка, Тод навзрыд, Драксум, четвёрка черепах, Кейси с Кассандрой и Эйприл, в тени футур Лео.

8) восьмая страница

Черепашки плачут и я тоже😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Я вот думаю, последнее, что сделал Сплинтер, это сказал, что у них брат и сестра, а потом откинулся?

Ну нихера себе, я в шоке с этой смертью крысы... Ну ладно.

Футуры увиделись с пастами.

Футур Лео говорил себе прошлому неоднозначную фразу, что только подтверждает мою теорию, что это реально они из будущего, которые победили кренгов, на это всё указывает.

Р. s.

Ещё, когда футур Лео упал к Фриде, на лице у него было, что он удивлён, либо понял, что попал супер сюжетный момент. Я не знаю что с Фридой, ибо когда они дрались с Армаггоном, там были 4 черепашки, Кейси и Эйп, наверное, чтобы не палить кантору. Ну, а так, я думаю, они нашли и брата и сестру и стали жить в логове вместе м.б., так хочется верить.)

На скане видно, что Драксум сделал ещё две капсулы с черепахами.

[risestarkiss]

"This Whole Situation"

Rise Ramblings #1

So as you guys know, one occurring phrase in the show between the boys and April is “This whole situation.” Although vague, and used in many other contexts, sometimes the family uses the phrase to refer to their mutations.  

However, once finishing the series it’s hard to miss that Donnie never says the phrase. Now, I could be wrong (and If I am, just comment and let me know!) but I have a theory as to why Donnie doesn’t say it… Donnie never says “this whole situation” because in his mind, there IS no situation.

The Evidence:

I started noticing something interesting about Donnie’s state of mind about himself.

He never really expresses that he’s different from other people, he’s just…him. Obviously, he knows that he’s a mutant, but it’s not something at the front of his mind. I associate it to if someone has a certain attribute, that person is just that, a person first. I believe it’s the same for Donnie. He’s a person, that just so happens to be a mutant turtle, and I live for it.

What made me solidify my theory was the use of disguises in Rise, specifically the use of disguises in April’s school.

All of the boys have visited April’s school, and all of them decided to wear disguises, except Donnie.

He just shows up in his regular clothing. One could argue that the hoodie is his disguise, but then why did the rest of the boys wear actual (silly) disguises while our boy Donnie is just like, “Hoodie? Check.” And not only that, but for the whole episode, all eyes are on him, and he just. Doesn’t. Care. It’s glorious!

Later, in the episode Donnie vs. Witch Town, we see that Donnie showing up all willy-nilly pell-mell at April’s school was not a one-time thing. It’s literally been happening for years!

Therefore, I believe that canonically Donnie doesn’t care about “this whole situation.” And if someone does, as far as he’s concerned that’s their problem, not his.

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Part Two: On His Own Terms

[kathaynesart]

Wait a minute. What about that little detail from Many Unhappy Returns? The detail where Big Mama mentioned Prison Dimension she 'apparently' has access to and where she 'was supposed to' put Shredder there as 'a part of the deal'? If what are you saying is true how come she access to that horrid place too? Or how does she know about Prison Dimension? I just feel like this detail needs to be addressed.

Very good eye and yes! She did mention a having access to A prison dimension! But she used a completely different mystic item to capture him.

I’m pretty sure these different prison/pocket dimensions can be forged to capture whatever you want through its own personal key. So she probably sent Shredder to her own private Prison Dimension that only she has the key to. The Krang were captured in a completely different prison dimension.

So basically the term "Prison Dimension" is not the name of a single, special place, but merely a designation for a type of pocket prison. At least that's what I can gather from all this.

If you missed the initial post about the Prison Dimension you can check it out HERE. There are some strong arguments for it not having any sort of time dialation which is very fair and I'm totally willing to believe, though I'm still not sure if Krang could normally live for that long. Who knows, maybe they can?

[optichocolate]

Found family but they are all self sacrificial and care about each other SO much it becomes a reason for conflict.

[brain-rot-tmnt]

So I've been thinking about the boys weapons. About how at the beginning of the show their various powers, Raph's big red aura, Leo's portals, and Mikey's chains, are all a direct result of the mystic weapons they took from Draxum.

But then once those weapons are destroyed by the Shredder, the boys unlock their ninpo properly and are able to access those very same powers??

That never made sense to me. If the powers came from mystic weapons then how is it that their ninpo does the exact same thing?

But now I think I've decided what happened.

That power never came from the weapons.

Those mystic weapons didn't have built in specific abilities. Instead, they simply had the power to help unlock your own, innate abilities.

At least while you're using them, anyway. Hence why the boys still needed to unlock their ninpo themselves to be able to access their powers without the mystic weapons.

This probably means that with practice the boys could use any weapons at all, or none if that's what they want. In fact we see them swap weapons already. After their weapons are destroyed Leo goes from his odachi to twin katana. Raph switches from tonfa to Sais. Mikey's kusari-fundō is replaced with nunchucks. And even Donnie's tech-bō is swapped for a standard bō staff through which he channels his own ninpo constructs. And they never switch back. (No, seriously, even in the movie Donnie's bō is still made of wood.)

Their weapons are now simply a focus for their ninpo, something that they're now used to. It honestly might not even occur to them that they could use their ninpo without weapons as a focal point. Not for a while anyway. (We do see Mikey using mystic arts/ninpo without a weapon in the Bad Future, but we don't know if he was the only one to unlock that ability or not.)

[gimmeknees]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the episode pizza puffs, Meat Sweats gets taken by this mist, and later shows up in the episode Battle nexus New York right?

Last I checked Big Mama herself doesn’t have any mist based powers.

And we know that Frida (their sister) was/is Big Mama’s assistant.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT THIS IS FRIDAS POWER??

I mean I don’t know if any other three-fingered assistant Big Mama might have…but it just was a cool thought.

[zelmyna-dragonheart]

I don't normally scream about other people's rottmnt au on here, but @somerandomdudelmao 's Cass Apocalypse Au is driving me up the wall, and I have words!!

Everyone who is reading the series knows it is currently in the process of Casey Jr. resurrecting his uncle/dad's.

Theory Time!

First off, let's go into why Casey can do this.

Yes, Cass has confirmed that the memory spell that was used was mixed with a time travel one. Thus, using one's memory's as a gateway to not only traverse time but dimensions.

However, Casey Jr. is able to see spirits when he does this but also remains physically in the present - which leads me to think that he is being astroprojected across time and space as a literal spirit. Hence why he can visit his memories and the past without altering the events on a physical level. As a spirit, Casey Jr. can see and engage with other spirits in existence at that time.

In the powers of spirit to spirit interaction, he is the only person alive who can literally pull other spirits through dimensions. With his body anchored in one time branch and his memories anchored in the other one, Casey Jr. Is the literal bridge for spirits to cross from one to the other.

No matter the condition of the spirit.

Theory #2

Cass has shown us F.Mikey communing with his ancestors when Donnie originally pasted on. It also was largely suspected the krangg could destroy ninpo and spirits.

With the Hamatos, spirits and ninpo are consister linked if not one. So, of course, when Casey Jr. travels back to his past in his time branch and is able to intact and unintentionally pull Donnie's disintegrating spirit into and out of time with him; Casey Jr. effectively saved Donnie's ninpo. Immediately after his recuse, Donnie admits that his NINPO is in shambles and that he is doing everything in his power to hold it together.

With this confirmation in mind, let's have a look at the conditions surrounding the other turtles' ninpos and spirits.

First off, Raph

Raph's spirit and ninpo were perfectly healed and intact with in the robot body Donnie created for him. The only thing is that Raph's 'body' could be turned activated or shut down. Like a Fullmetal Alchemist parallel, Raph's soul, spirit, and ninpo are housed within a metal container. In episode two or three, when Casey Jr. found the robot, Raph was reactivated after an emergency shutdown that lasted YEARS.

His ninpo and spirit woke up. Know that, shutting himself down again to allow his generator to be redirected as a power source would not kill Raph but rather put him to sleep. He would never die but remain suspended for all time, trapped in his metal shell until someone reactivated him.

This made Raph not only be the easiest but most accessible spirit for Casey Jr. to rescue. Raphs' spirit would have remained there, in perfect condition, for however long it took for Casey to get to him.

Now, let's look at Mikey.

This old mystic warrior was the most in tune and most powerfully adept with his abilities. Drained he may have been, Mikey said that opening a time gateway would use whatever he had left. His mystic powers and ninpo are linked. Opening the time gateway was a strain on his spirit, his ninpo. He was literally splintering apart as he opened the portal. In Mikey’s moment of death, he pushed the last of his ninpo in the portal. His ninpo burst like a firework.

At this point of this written theory, Mikey's has not been rescued.

This leads me to speculate the condition and difficulty of said rescue for one Casey Jr. Mikey's soul is untrained by Krangg's chemical warfare, so it is not in danger of disintegrating but nor is his soul bound to a metal shell, his spirit is actually free to reform and rejoin his Hamato clan.

This leaves Casey Jr. vary little time to connect with Mikey's spirit. There is the option that he will witness Mikey's ninpo shattering into a million pieces. However, he may also be witness to Mikey's ninpo, in stark contrast to Donnie rapidly decaying ninpo spirit, pull back together. In glorious younger self. All golden and whole.

All that training and usage of his ninpo would have given his spirit and ninpo the ability to reform faster than one that was infected with a ninpo-distorying illness. This moment, where Mikey spirit lingers before ascending or choosing to join with his ancestors, Casey would have to approach.

Then again... Mikey could also rather stick around and wait for Leo to join him.

Option 2 is that when Mikey explodes, Casey Jr. would have to act fast to catch the ninpo pieces upon explosion. I like option number one a lot better.

Regardless, Mikey could be a time sensitive rescue. Mikey is quite literally a wild card in this realm.

This brings us to Leo.

Can you see where I'm going with this?

It's not a secret that Casey has related to Younger Leo about how his future self was a shield for Mikey's ninpo.

F.Leo is shown to have sacrificed the use of his ninpo, or lack there of, to draw the Kranggs apparently one-time-use ability to lock or damage ninpo/magic on to himself to free Mikey to mystically blast Kranggs to oblivion. In contrast to Mikey's fully intact Hamato ninpo, Leo's utterly demolished ninpo is in full view for us to see .

How it got way we can only speculate - but it may have been sacrificed to help Mikey originally and never fully recovered. F.Leo even claimed once, after using his ninja skills of speed to confuse and irritate Krangg into using that ninpo destroying sonic wave they have, that he had no magic or anything for them to destroy.

So here is the thing. If a Hamato spirit and ninpo are one in the same... where does this leave Leo's spirit? His soul? His ninpo? It's all in pieces, broken, destroyed. Claimed to no longer exist. But the pieces remain.

They are pieces in a container. Like how Raph's spirit and ninpo were contained in metal, Leo's broken ones were still collected together within his living body.

So what happens when Leo's body is incinerated by that krangg's beam death? Like his twin, Leo’s spirit has been affected by the krangg and was unable to heal. There is no holding himself together here. He is most likely already like clear glass like pieces on the breeze or scattering in the wake of the after math. Destined to fade from existence.

He's the most likely to join his Hamato ancestors immediately, but without the ability to pull his ninpo together on his own, Leo would take time to reform with the Hamoto Clans help.

If Casey is to save Leo's ninpo and spirit at all, he would have to find away to collect the pieces of Leo's shattered ninpo once the beam hits.

Another problem, if Kraggs technology has the effect of destroying one's spirit, Casey's astroprojected spirit could be in danger if that death beam gets too close. He wouldn't be able to save his sensai and himself if that is in the way and active.

Saving Leonardo's shattered spirit and ninpo would not only be near impossible, but a definite risk to Casey Jr.'s own spirit. Astroprojecting his spirit still puts put's his life in clear physical danger of coming in contact with spirit damaging tech. Saving any remnant of his sensai's spirit and ninpo is going to acquire a plan. Or dumb luck.

That being said... Donnie is our evidence that even in pieces, Leo could be saved. Casey Jr. would have to get dangerously close to the death beam. That or stand among the lingering pieces of Leo's soul as they float for a moment in the aftermath. In any instance, all Casey Jr. would need to do is come in contact with any of these spirit partials, and they would all be sucked up in to him.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure Leo's broken spirit would be overly responsive to any of Casey' Jr. 's concerned shouts, if at all. But Casey would be able to feel him.

On returning to the present, we know from Donnie that krangg effects are left behind. This would result in two ways of Leo being resurrected.

1. On returning to the present, Casey would scramble for the cloning tube and instantly deposit the ninpo fragments. Leo would return with a new body shell for his broken bits. In this case, Leo would probably be comatose for a good long while until his pieces, now cleansed from anything krangg, reform and heal in safty.

2. Leo's ninpo is too weak to transfer into his clone and takes refuge in Casey instead until his cleansed ninpo pieces find a way to pull together. Maybe with help from Mikey?

Also, could Casey house two Hamato souls at once? Since Mikey and Leo practically died at the same time.

Because to wrap horribly long theory thread, I would almost expect a spirit Mikey to tell Casey's to grab Leo first then come back for him as Mikey's spirit is safe in the aftermather of the death beam. If Casey housed two Hamato spirits at once (headache just thinking about it), then Mikey mystic warrior aspect could collect and even help mend Leo's shattered ninpo.

But in conclusion, F. Leo is the most at risk and dangerous Hamato spirit to rescue. Logic states that there would be a possibility that F.Leo may never get rescued and be a lonely turtle spirit with his ancestors after. However, this is Cass's Au and Donnie of all people is defying logic. So I predict that some kind of Dumb Luck option from above will be Leo's saving grace. I just feel Casey Jr. is going to have a few singe marks on his soul to tell about when all this is said and done.

TL:DR - Raph was the easiest turtle to rescue as his spirit was stuck in a tin can. Mikey is a wild card in terms of spirit condition, but saveable on a time limit. Leo is the most riskiest and dangerous to save with a broken ninpo.

Casey Jr. and Donnie have no fear.

Live on future turtles!

[plum-pitt]

AYO, THIS POST FOR ALL U SHELLSHOCKED SHIPPERS OUT THERE:

Mikey does the funny SpiderMan pose in one of the official Rise comics, do with that information what you will.

[insanebreadloaf]

Rip lamp. You will be missed

this is my little piece of fanart of chapter 10’s final scene from @qoldenskies’s amazing fic Clipped wings

GO READ IT. GO READ THE CANARY CONTINUITY. BEWARE: it’s REALLY GOOD BUT HEAVY. ANGST ALL THE WAY

[hellishgayliath]

@heckitall HECKY I DID YOUR DTYIS!!! :DDD IM YOUR CO DIRECTOR FOR THIS COMIC HOW COULD I NOT DRAW OUR BOYS AT SOME POINT :D

Also people should go read Heck's comic Same as it Never Will Be, it is amazing and Heck is a really great story teller and artist :3 <3

[griffinclaw7]

So one thing that’s been living rent-free in my head since I watched the episode „The ancient art of ninja hide and seek“ is this weird hotel room where the brothers have their final showdown of the episode, you know just showing off their newly acquired skills

You know this one.

And it just could have been that the creators thought „hey, let’s just use a random hotel room for this scene“ but the thing that’s been bugging me is that this doesn’t look like a randomly chosen room at all

It doesn’t even look like a regular hotel room

It is hidden behind a secret door and the turtles only get there by pure accident and as we can see in the background that other rooms have regular doors. Heck, this room is so well hidden that even Splinter can’t find the entrance even though he was standing right in front of it.

Another thing is how the room is furnished. It is very blatant that this room isn’t meant for guests to stay in. The entire room has been personalized, there are posters on the wall, we have a car bed and a surfboard, there are vinyl records scattered across the floor and the bed isn’t made. Overall it looks very much lived in.

What I noticed, that was also kind of weird is how accessible the rest of the hotel seems to be from this room as seen with how out of every corner Big Mama‘s goons pop out of more hidden doorways.

The only use I could see in this room is if it was the room of one of the employees because that seems like the only logical answer for this kind of room since who else would need this level of accessibility.

But there is still one more thing. In this episode all of the employees we see on screen are adults and I don’t think it’s the room of any of the goons we see in this episode. Why? Well because this room looks like it belongs to a teenager. The posters, the general messiness and choice in furnishings all don’t give off the vibe of the inhabitant being an adult and look more like how a teenager would decorate and upkeep their room.

My personal headcannon (and explanation) for this room is that this is the room of Big Mama‘s Assistant, you know the person who’s been confirmed to be the turtles missing sister. It would make sense for this to be her room since she’s the only character I can think of that would fit all of the criterias for this room, since A she is employed by Big Mama and it would make sense to keep her room as such separated from the guests rooms but still central to get around the hotel quickly. And B she would be the turtles age, between early and mid- teens, at this point in the story. If this is the case and the room is in fact belonging to the sister (Frida) it would also serve as a nice foreshadowing if the turtles kind of indirectly interacted with their sister before actually meeting her

[bambiraptorx]

Draxum's rude af kids are making their way through the @tmntaucompetition

[First I.D. Red Rover Leo shoves aside a grey insert person, a look of disgust on his face and his hand raised in a loose fist. He says "move. I'm gay." Next to him are Red Rover Mikey and Donnie. Mikey has his hands around one of Donnie's arms, looks at the person Leo is shoving, and says "We're walkin here!" with 'walkin' in all caps. Donnie stares flatly at the phone in his hand and says nothing. End I.D. 1]

[Second I.D. Three panel comic. In the first panel, Red Rover Leo shoves Minor Interference Mikey, who flails and says "wha- hey!" In the background, Minor Interference Donnie gasps in shock and anger. In the second panel, Donnie confronts Leo, leaning forwards and pointing at him and yelling "don't pick on my brother!" Leo leans backwards slightly with his hands on his hips, a cocky expression on his face as he responds "make me". In the last panel, Minor Interference Draxum towers over both Donnie and Leo, who are shown from behind with exclamation marks over their heads. Draxum crosses his arms angrily and asks, "okay, what's going on here?" End I.D. 2]

Minor Interference Draxum doesn't like it when people harass his turtles, so he's kinda ticked off. (That and he barely has the tolerance to deal with his own shithead teens, let another others lol)

@tmntaucompetition

[tangledinink]

... and thus The Gemini Egg Saga comes to a close.

(sort of. because I told you guys via bribe that I'd show you how Donnie and Mama's conversation went after his near brush with death... so expect that in the near future.) (<- now published!)

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[danzinora-switch]

FAM!!!!!

I was rewatching 'Bug Busters' and TELL ME WHY THE GATEWAY TO THE BATTLE NEXUS LOOKS LIKE THIS!

This was like, THREE YEARS before we knewwwwwww!!

[cyclopssun]

rectangular sagi

[brain-rot-tmnt]

So obviously Leo's the medic for the Mad Dogs. And I also agree that in other iterations of the turtles that Donnie would pick up the job if Leo were incapacitated. But am I the only one who thinks that in Rise, Mikey would be more likely to take up the medic mantle?

Yes Donnie is "the smart one" and would be better suited to actually learning all the medical knowledge, but in practical application Rise!Donnie is ill suited to the task.

I mean, c'mon, just look at *gestures wildly to all of Donnie's canonical sensory issues and difficulty coping in the face of traumatic injuries (vomitello anyone?)*

I suspect Mikey would make a much better medic. He's not as smart as Donnie but he's certainly not dumb either. (If we decide that April's captions in Lair Games are canonically factual, which I know a lot of you do, then he has multiple degrees) And Donnie would help out in other ways, such as designing and building custom medical equipment.

Am I the only one who sees it?