#tpn parallels

[just-like-playing-tag]

Happy Birthday Krone!! (July 15, 2019)

The Promised Neverland Parallels ↳ (14/?) » 20 // 23 // 181.2 Krone + Butterflies Symbolism

[officersnickers]

Ray, who was born and raised by a human mother, but viewed and treated like a dog by her 🐶💔

vs. 

Ayshe, stolen by a demon, and considered to be eaten and/ or planned to be treated like another dog, only to become the demon‘s beloved daughter 👩‍👦❤️

[questiontocertaintyofreality]

Norman's Reason of Murder, Analysis

(Inclued Ray and Emma too but mainly Norman)

Norman decides he must kill the demons because it's the only way his family can survive when there's truly no Neverland to escape to. Those who insult hard on Norman for murder overlook this: Norman was dying, and before he died, he wanted to leave a world to live in for the people he valued most in life and for whom he had worked for years. He thought he had no other choice, he would bear the price of this murder, he should bear this burden. All of these come from the responsibility and sense of justice he has felt since childhood. Just like Ray decides he can take the burden of killing people when Minerva's first shelter is found. "I am ready to carry this burden."

Because Ray has been carrying the burden of the truth for years. Emma was also ready to take on the burden of every child she encountered and the responsibility of her life. Even if Emma's failure meant the children would die, Emma did not consider failing. The burden Norman is trying to carry is the same as Emma and Ray, but unlike the two of them, Norman sees himself as deformed after Lambda. He thinks that no matter what he does, they will not accept him as his old, true self, but Ray was thinking almost the same. (Did i mention i love norray). Ray believed that he had no place with his family and that he had to die at the end of the 6-year plan because Ray think their family doesn't show him understood because Ray watched their siblings die for years and they might thought Ray's humanity was destroyed. But there wasn't a rule for humanity in that world. Ray had Emma by his side to shake him, but Norman didn't have Emma at first. I want to hug Emma, she needs to shake me too. Emma, on the other hand, could push herself up, her psychological endurance at a level I could never have imagined.

Back at Norman, he was deathly afraid of ever hoping again, believing that his plans and dreams were destroyed forever so he afraid to trust Emma and Ray about Mujika, afraid to believe there was another world. He think, he dissapointed hard after this and all of his family die. Norman wasn't bad, Isabella wasn't bad, they never were. Because when all the information you have about the outside world is likely to be fake, when you have spent years surrounded by lies and the truth is hitting you like a slap in the face, you cannot learn to do something that society deems evil because you aren't learn "act evil for gain" If one sheep bites another while running through the meadows, will we call it bad? It's not the same as a murder in the world we live.

In this panel Norman says : I hope in your next life, you enjoy life like a human.

They never carried like humans.

Norman get away too, too much suffering and try to create a world humans can live. Norman is right

Also

They feel peace in this panel because they were accepted, they were each other and they feel incalculable trust for each other

[duckietine]

why did Violet take a bit too long to notice he wasn't her 😭😭 when you're soulmating too hard people that you've never met before see your essence in each other

[fullscoreshenanigans]

Me: I will never not adore all the creative decisions CloversWorks put into the opening. Not only does the fuse line in the foreground serve as the visual representation of the spark mentioned in the lyrics that foreshadows one of the most climactic moments of the series people still cite fondly as a result of the incredible emotional and narrative payoff it culminates in—the destruction of Grace Field Plant No.3 in a sea of flames—built up by the three earlier background chants of “fire!” in English, but also as a figurative red string of fate between the three children destiny threw together whose personalities, strengths, and weaknesses all play off each other beautifully and are all integral to facilitating the escape that will forever alter the fate of two worlds after a millennia of suffering, adamantly refusing the outcomes the system had determined for them, and I appreciate the series allowing the audience to view this entirely through a platonic lens.

Also me with my REN-addled brain: red string of fate,,,soulmates,,,🖤🧡🤍 |33

[crowchelmist]

Emma and Norman’s faces crumpled in betrayal, and the sword cut through their necks like a butcher's blade.

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Ray didn’t wake up with a gasp.

He never did. Ray woke up the same way he always did after a nightmare. Quietly, just barely shaking as he blinked back tears.

(But he's not alone, and circumstances have certainly changed for the better.)

[hinasho]

TPN is making me weep. starting this series i thought it was just decent. smthg interesting, just alright. but its been getting so good so damn good i’m losing it. i just got to the part where the Queen dies and🧍‍♀️“you are being devoured by all you’ve consumed”. bars and then you get slapped with Emma’s “i’ve thought abt what it means to live i’ve thought abt what it means to die and i’ve thought abt what it means to eat. if i were to die, i would not mind being eaten by you” and it’s just like what the fuck wtf this series is POETRY

[kyouka-supremacy]

Hey!! I really love your sskk/odazai parallels and I really believe these parallels are intentional!! Especially with moments like this “a mafia member who doesn’t kill, huh, you two are fighters just like us” and the whole beast novel!! like beast is FULL of parallels and anyone who don’t see it is just in denial!! Anyway after reading a lot of analysis i thought that maybe it’s not necessary that the parallels have to be between only two characters but maybe it’s between the four them, i always thought that the parallels are between oda/atsushi dazai/akutagawa but maybe it’s actually between them all?? this analysis—

https://linkspooky.tumblr.com/post/623629392218931200/a-mafia-member-who-doesnt-kill

—talks about the parallel between oda and akutagwa and it’s just sooo good I really recommend reading it!!

[Analysis link]

Yeaaaahh I agree with your take wholeheartedly Anon, parallels can be drawn between all the four of them and that's what makes it so interesting to compare them!!! For how I see them, I think they move more or less on a spectrum of this kind, with Dazai switching to Oda's place after Dark Era:

And thank you so much for the recommendation, that was such a good reading!!!! The Akutagawa / Oda parallels are really so compelling, particularly in the way they previously used to kill to demonstrate their own worth, because that's everything they thought they were good at- and then unlearning that through another person. Makes me wish they had more chances to interact in canon, but hey at least there's Beast (╥﹏╥) On my way to reread Beast brb

Tbh it makes so much more sense for Oda to not judge Dazai for what he did - killing, torturing, abusing children etc. - when you take into account that Oda himself doesn't have rigid good / evil moral principles and actually sees doing good as a choice rather than doing it because that's what is just. And Dazai knows it, and that's why he feels so accepted around Oda ;;;;;; Like he doesn't feel the need to try to act evil, he doesn't feel the need to try to act good, but he can just be and that's why he enjoys Oda's company so much.

One thing I find especially interesting is how Oda never tried to impose his moral principles to Dazai. It was always a “I do it like this, you do it like that”; Oda never held an ounce of bitterness or resentment towards Dazai for killing or mistreating orphans nor he judged him for that, although he acted the opposite. And that's exactly because Oda himself has a very relativistic view of morality; and that's why Dazai is so drawn to him, because he's fascinated as to why someone who shares his own ambiguous view of morality would still choose to do good. Even in his last moments, what Oda offered Dazai felt more like a suggestion rather than a last will; a “maybe you can be a little happier if you try doing this”. He wasn't trying to persuade Dazai to pursue a greater good, but rather suggestibg a solution to the emptiness he feels inside, because he's his friend and he loves him. And that's because Oda deeply understands Dazai - arguably even better than Dazai understands himself -, sees in what they're similar, and knows what would work for Dazai just like it did for himself. In fact the thing about Oda understanding Dazai and Akutagawa understanding Atsushi was so spot on like YES that's exactly what I've been saying!!!! Akutagawa is so deeply concerned in trying to understand Atsushi's actions and motivations he will go out of his way to directly interrogate him about them and I think that's beautiful.

Thank you again for asking, love you!!! 💕💕

[technicolorxsn]

hmmmm perhaps

[abybweisse]

Let's see how closely it parallels TPN

Earlier, I mentioned that I had bought vol20 and an epilogue volume of The Promised Neverland and then ordered a copy of the other 19 volumes.

Well, yesterday I picked up the six volumes that have arrived. The order they arrive in is so random. I received vols 1, 3, 4, 10, 14, and 19. Well, at least I have vol1, so I can start reading. And it's also good I was able to pick these up and pay for them once their Labor Day sale had begun, so I got 25% off the cover price, instead of the usual 10% off for manga.

It's funny to me that when I first started getting very deeply into Mother3 theory for Kuroshitsuji that people would say they hate the theory on the grounds that it means Yana-san is relying so much on someone else's work. I still get the occasional dismissal of my theory for that reason... or even an accusation that I'm saying she's copying or plagiarizing. I keep having to say it's not plagiarism or flat-out copying.

I wonder what those same people think about the current assignment and how closely it seems to follow not just a particular part of Mother3 but also The Promised Neverland. 🤔

Well, soon I'll be able to see for myself just how closely F. O. L. Orphanage's activities match with TPN.

[chidoroki]

182 Days of TPN - Day 181

Chapter 181: "Beyond Destiny"

I keep thinking how Alex mentioned last chapter that he can only call for help during the spring and of the one panel that showed the snow melting and flowers blooming by the time we reached the scene where he takes Emma to the city, which leads me to believe it's actually early 2050 instead of late 2049. I know I'm in the minority thinking that since this chapter clearly states it's been two years since Emma disappeared, but I personally don't believe they meant that timeskip literally.

Referencing the search she, Don & Ayshe went on is a nice callback, but with both situations having their parallels, why couldn't ya think of this idea sooner sweetie?? Ah well, at least this leads everyone in the right direction in the end. Regardless of any of that, I love Gilda's outfit here.

Sigh. This arc had so much potential to give so many more characters some spotlight and we get crumbs.

I am politely asking the world once more to please let my boy say "fuck." You can't tell me Ray hasn't been swearing like a sailor with how frustrating these last two years have been for him. Also, seeing Phil using the WM pen raises more questions, such as who's pen did that originally belong to? My first bet would've bene that it Yuugo's, as he's really the only one we've seen with a pen aside from Emma (who still has hers), but with how chaotic life at the shelter was moments before it blew up, I have my doubts he would've even thought to give the pen away to Ray or one of the other kids for safekeeping. It would've been a pretty big hint towards him and Lucas not returning as well so I can understand why such a scene was left out, if it happened at all. Anyways, with Norman on the other end of the conversation with Phil, it's obvious he somehow has a pen of his own but how he acquired such pen doesn't seem that surprising to me, since Norman was actually shown to have one in season two and I can easily believe it was another gift from Smee or another supporter. If not, Norman seems like the type who would be able to create another pen just like the original, which could result in the one Phil's group is using, if it isn't actually Yuugo's. Other that than, seeing how the pens are still fully functional (and assuming they're both originals from the demon world and not newly made), I'm going back to my own question I had last chapter about whether or not Emma and Alex have ever tried using the pen she has in her possession. Surely they could've figured something out about Emma's past if they just looked through it.. unless demon god thought that far ahead and deleted all information off said pen.

I know it's the same moment as the previous chapter where Phil's group gets close to Emma without realizing it but it still makes me so anxious! I'd absolutely be yelling at my screen had this encounter been animated.

Now they're teasing me on purpose. Just let them meet, damn it! AAhhh.. at least Ray's looking handsome, even though he's completely worn out.

Oh how very convenient for the necklace to somehow fall off her neck and be found right in front of where she eventually reunites with her family. This necklace also looks like the kind that you just slip on over your head, as there doesn't seem to be a visible clasp anywhere on the chain, so how it managed to go up and over her head without her noticing is some sorta demon witchcraft right there. Look at how that thing is glowing! It's sentient I tell ya. I do like how much Emma values the necklace though despite not having any memory as to why it's so special to her.

Speaking of keepsakes, I'm also very fond that Ray still uses his scarf. More importantly though, this panel is such a relief! I'm so relieved the reunion takes place rather quickly in the chapter so it gives the characters more time to figure out the situation and sort out their feelings. And I may be wrong about this, but it kinda looks like Emma is raising her eyebrow at the sight of all these people suddenly surrounding her with such surprised faces. Hold on tight honey, it's about to get even weirder for you.

And this first panel is darn heartbreaking, for her family and us readers. They probably dreamed of this moment for so long, to finally reunite with Emma and live together again, but they certaintly never imagined her to react like this. Safe to say that our girl was taken off guard by this encounter as well. Here Emma was, expecting a chill day out shipping with her adoptive father and now she's getting hugged outta nowhere by a bunch of strangers. Poor girl looks seriously stunlocked.

I am so incredibly proud of my boy for figuring out that this girl is indeed their Emma. I'm sure anyone could've looked at the necklace in her hands and made the assumption this was her, but the way Ray was able to piece everything together about what exactly happened to Emma and what the real reward was amazes me to no end. He looks so angry and full of regret in that second panel before he reveals the truth too, almost as if he's a bit hesitant to let the words out of his mouth, but he knows this is absolutely something everyone needs to hear and unfortunately for Ray, no one is better at delivering hard truths than him. Once he reveals to everyone the true price of the reward, he looks completely crushed and I seriously need to go and hug him pretty please! I'm certain Ray has been constantly thinking up many possibilities of what the reward could've been over the last two years, but this reveal has gotta be something he never expected. Or perhaps it was, considering he realized it so quickly, but I doubt he'd be happy to be correct in this moment anyway. I can't imagine what Emma must be feeling hearing all this crazy stuff either.

Okay but what if she just said no here instead? Would demon god actually changed His mind or am I being too hopeful? Emma's optimism might be rubbing off on me, but I just want her happy! I don't like that sad look in her eyes or the slight pause she takes before finally answering Him.

She's such a damn sweetheart, I'll literally never get over how big her heart is and how much she loves and cares for everyone, especially over herself. I can imagine the sad tone in her voice for the first couple speech bubbles, but then she'll lighten up as she rambles on about the better future that's on the horizon and will be so grateful she's able to grant such wonderful lives for everyone she holds dear.

It goes without saying but Emma's family doesn't take the news of her memory loss too well. While I am glad that a majority of them were present to hear about the real reward (given how important it was) and that everyone eventually celebrates Emma agreeing to live with them at the end of the chapter, a part of me wishes the initial group who found her was a bit smaller? All the attention is completely overwhelming her and I can't blame her for shoving them aside for freaking out so badly. If it was Ray, Norman, Phil and a couple others from GF who found her first, they could've broken the news to her gently (once Ray figured it out) and then fill in the rest of their family one by one, if Emma still decided to join them in the end.

Phil is so good at picking up on major details, whether it be GF's secret or Emma's anxiety. And then ya got Norman who is just totally relieved to see her again. I had forgot to mention this during ch179, but another reason losing Emma hit him so hard was because he had just reunited with her a couple weeks prior to their arrival in the human world. Norman spent all that time planning his escape in Lambda and ways that would allow him to reconnect with Emma, Ray, and the rest of their family and he finally had a moment of peace when they all arrived at the paradise hideout to feel that hole in his heart being full again. Then you had all that drama at the demon capital that pitted them against each other for a little bit until they reconciled and fought together during the GF raid. He had to be so happy once they finally obtained freedom and to live by each other's side without fear of being separated again, until they split up once more without any indication how long it would last or if a life without Emma was gonna be Norman's new normal. So of course he breaks out into happy tears here because all that matters to him is that she's real and in front of him again.

Hearing him tell her how thankful he is that she's healthy, eating well and injury free is a great parallel to his speech in ch30 right before he gets shipped out, only instead of saying their goodbyes at the end, they can introduce themselves and start all over. I gotta wonder what Alex thinks of all these kids suddenly surrounding his adoptive daughter, though I pretty positive he's chill with it since we do see him a bit later sitting back and watching all their happy faces.

Although it's a real convenient way to tie up loose ends about what's been happening with their family these past couple years, I'm still thankful we get a little insight about everyone's dreams and progress they've made. Naturally I wish could've seen so much more of everyone, but I'll take what we can get. Poor Emma has gotta be so confused on what Norman is talking about though.

This boy is trying is absolute hardest to not breakdown in front of her. It reminds me of how he comforted Emma the night after Conny's shipment despite him being just as frightened to learn the house's secret as she was.

Okay but props to our girl though for sticking around and at least hearing them out. If a bunch of strangers came up to me and started sharing their life stories with me, you can bet I'd make a move to run the first chance I get.

It's crazy how seeing a panel of our favorite girl cry such big tears can make me so happy but aaahh, I'm so thankful that the love she has for her family is powerful enough that it overrides her dumb amnesia. Demon god can be a bastard and take away her memories but he can't do shit about her strong feelings! Also, I always liked how her tears land on the necklace, considering it resembles the dragon's eye, it makes it look like as if it's crying as well.

It took me until now to remember that several pages of this chapter were redrawn since I remember that one fantasy scene of the boys finding her on that beach.. but no way in hell am I gonna go back and rework this to accommodate those changes. I've been writing this post out for far too long already. The sun is no longer up.

It's because of the inner monologue from the previous pages that leads me to believe it's also Emma who declares "screw destiny" here and I will literally never accept anything different because I love that phrase for her. That's the very reason I went nuts during s2ep10 when she shouts "I don't give a damn about that destiny!" at Peter. (Dub had her fire back with "Well I don't give a damn what you say!" if anyone was curious, which is equally good in my book.)

Favorite panel/moment:

Oh, there's.. so many. There would've been more but I did already chat about some favorite moments already, such as Ray's smart mind recognizing Emma and the real reward, along with her expressing how much she's always wanted to meet her family regardless of meeting everyone for the first time. As for the rest however, of course we're starting with Ray's lost family members assisting him with locating Emma. Seeing Conny, Yuugo and Isabella appear one last time was such a welcomed surprise and I could absolutely ramble about them more, but I should really keep the rest of this short considering how long this darn post is turning out to be. I'll place the original review here though for funsies. I will mention something I only thought of recently though, and that's how I think the "Over here, Ray" is actually in Emma's voice instead of Conny, Yuugo & Isabella's like I originally believed. While I do love the idea of Ray thinking fondly about all the people he failed to save, no one compares to Emma and that girl has probably been living rent free in his head the past two years. It would also makes sense as to why he would later comment about how hearing her voice could've been his imagination since he's thinking of her so frequently all the time, as we clearly see as he sprints off chasing that voice.

Eeehehe, Ayshe may not have been around for the reunion but her absence is definitely forgiven with this small panel! I would die for more content about these two and how their complicated acquaintanceship changed over the years, even if only barely. Norman still has to be on his guard around her and I love the idea of her lowkey threatening him often enough so he'll never feel relaxed. So glad all her dogs were able to cross over as well considering the new promise really only affected the cattle children. Rest in peace Vincent!

One of the most important reveals is my boy Chris FINALLY waking up!! It still really sucks how he was knocked out for almost half the story but oohhh I'm so incredible thrilled that he's okay. Poor guy has so much drama to catch up on though. I'm sure once he heard about Emma's disappearance he would've offered to help look for her, but since he wasn't shown anywhere else during the chapter, it makes me believe that his awakening was fairly recent and he's possibly still recovering. I'm fine if that's the case considering he gets to join in all the fun during the epilogue.

Everyone delighted beyond belief to hear that Emma missed them and her adorable face when they return the sentiment. Ah, Ray also looks fantastic. Love that smile on him as he's crying tears of pure joy.

Though I very much prefer the redrawn version of the final page where it includes more of the family joining in the celebration, having Emma accept their offer and wishing to live together will all of them definitely makes for a wholesome ending.

End of volume 20. But one day remains.

[officersnickers]

“I couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t change anything. That’s why... at least I wanted to keep living. As a human they couldn’t eat!!”

“Nevertheless... I can still live. And as long as I’m alive, I might be able to see them again.”

~~~

In my opinion, we’re really sleeping on all the parallels between Isabella and Norman, being forced to live in a facility that not only took away their freedom, but also their bodily autonomy. At the tender age at twelve, both are branded and cut open, under the watchful eyes of those who seek to devour them ultimately, in one way or another. Also, mother and son are both so full of spite and desperation to live on, althought they have been told there would be no way out of their miserable life, and still, they continued to keep on fighting and rattling their chains till they finally broke free.

Drawing this last month I was so proud of the outcome, but now... hnngh. Norman’s facial structure look so weird, although I tried to imitate the manga’s style, but yeah... The mirror on the left side was also a nightmare, but I’m still proud of how unnecessarily luxurious it looks like.

[whirling-fangs]

[[okay but the parallels between the way orphanages work in TPN and the entire logic of Douma and his cult.... *chef's kiss* ]]

[duckietine]

soulmated so hard even the writer couldn't stop them wtf

[fullscoreshenanigans]

No other option for this poll since it's based on the options that won a top 2 spot in the previous rounds.

Grace Field Kids Edition Goldy Pond Edition Lambda 7214/Paradise Hideout Edition Free-For-All Edition Other Platonic Duo Polls Suggestions Post

Copypasta'd propaganda from my other posts under the cut:

Grace Field Poll: I was glad to see how well Don & Emma and Gilda & Ray were doing on the Grace Field poll. ;w; Both feel the most criminal to me given how big of a role Don and Gilda play in the series, but ultimately I went with Gilda & Ray because I couldn't think of any moment for them that was equivalent to Don being the first of the larger group of kids to voice his support for Emma's plan:

(Chapter 130)

Except for maybe this brief exchange they added to the anime:

(S1 Episode 12)

Episode 10 also nixes the scene of Don and Gilda privately conversing in the woods in chapter 31 and instead has Ray apologizing to Don and Gilda directly rather than just Emma, which is made even more poignant when you consider how strongly he reacted to Emma and Norman giving them false hope about still being able to save Conny in chapter 11/episode 4.

He's not even trying to feign the distance he self-imposed between them in his mind at this point. He's genuinely sorry for failing them for their own sakes, not as extra able bodies who could assist Emma and Norman outside the wall. And it's a genuinely distressing sight for the two of them, seeing him at his lowest point after everything he sacrificed for this plan.

To have her then knowingly hum and hold that look of fondness for him when she sees how shocked is, after years of believing a better outcome was impossible, and how worried he is, because try as he might to keep the other children at arm's length mentally there's a way Ray frets over and looks after them that is reminiscent of Gilda's own (they are united in being the Mom Friends™ of the escapees 🤝), is such a sweet, gentle kindness that they didn't have to include but I'm very glad they did.

Goldy Pond Poll: Emma & Oliver has always felt like one of the most pertinent dynamics to come out of Goldy Pond alongside Emma & Violet with the amount of focus each are given individually as effectively the leaders of the Grace Field escapees and Goldy Pond kids, respectively, and together. The latter is significantly less, unfortunately, but Oliver usually acts as Emma's point person when she needs to confer information/plans and Norman and Ray won't work for the situation because symbolically the scene calls for a representation of larger group cohesion with the kids she didn't grow up with.

Also, after losing so many older siblings at Grace Field and becoming the big sister/leader of them, it's nice to have her regain that kind of relationship with any of the Goldy Pond group; Oliver just happens to have more panels dedicated to it lol

(Chapter 69)

(Chapter 110 & 111)

(Chapter 122; this moment is so minuscule, but again we have Oliver acting in a leader role and Emma using him as a point of reference to confirm that taking it easy in this new place is wise and safe for everyone. If even Oliver thinks it's okay to act like this—to say nothing of the way he tells her so gently and in so few words—then she can rest a little more soundly.)

(Chapter 161)

(Chapter 179; he's not the only one given focus here, but I like that he's the one this bit ends on to drive the point home to Norman and Ray about Emma.)

And then this piece by @nagaikei-ajin is my favorite of the two of them for the intensity and parallels.

i want to believe emma and oliver are carrying on yugo and lucas’ will and even got a pair of gloves for remembrance... 

Free-For-All Poll: I'm glad other people are also fucked up by this panel of Ayshe & Mujika:

(Chapter 144)

The way she's staring at Mujika in rapt attention, left hand grabbing for hers while she holds her right in front of her chest to show how animated she is in the conversation, either because she's gesturing to herself or is at a loss for words in the the excitement of the moment or because the adrenaline from the skirmish with Hayato and Jin is wearing off and trying to will the words to spill forth.

It's been months since she's been able to hold a conversation with anyone in the language her father passed down to her because he believed it was something worth preserving of his culture from a millennia ago, so to be able to have that back with someone as kind and graciously loving as Mujika is something special.

[midnight-in-town]

any thought about the parallel that exists between the promised never land and on going subarc of black butler?

Hey Anon!

None, because I never read or watched TPN and I don't intend to any time soon, if ever. :))

Additionally, I'm relatively against drawing parallels between series, when TPN seems at best an inspiration for Yana-sensei (like Sherlock Holmes was for the Murders at Manor arc), who's a writer known to explore widely and in depth the tropes she uses for settings (Ducky or chibi once translated a few twitter posts about this, but I can't find it right now).

Also, please remember that, aside from TPN and as I explained here, this orphanage arc mostly seems to act as a parallel and a continuation of what was introduced in the circus arc and I'd like to remind everyone that TPN was written way after Kuro's circus arc.

Lastly, I have war flashbacks of fans drawing comparisons from one series to explain or theorize about another (the whole Femtoneki horror trip from back when TG:Re was still on going and some examples in Kuro fandom as well), as if writers can't use similar tropes without this meaning they copy each other (a concept I find extremely snooty of fans). So while other fans are free to do as they please, I'd rather just read Yana's work as Yana's work, no offense!

My opinion though! As always, other people are free to do entirely as they want! :))

Have a nice day, Anon!