#troll quadrants

[30-rats-in-a-trenchcoat]

[histrionicscribbler]

SO, THERE ARE FOUR QUADRANTS—

[shjiyemis]

Welcome to my little fun theory thread that kind of mixes troll biology and and the way quadrants work! I was finally egged enough to finally type it up.

I've had this idea for a while and basically I got inspired by the idea that other animals lack some attributes that humans/other living things have or have some ENTIRELY unique compared to humans and other living things, though people do comparatives to other attributes that exist to more easily understand.

So I've heard this phrase about dogs that "They don't feel guilty" and whether that's true or not it gave me ideas because there are animals that see colors that are completely unknown to us and animals change their sex depending on temperature they're in, so it's not crazy that an animal would lack a familiar emotion that we know of or have a whole new emotion all together!!

So basically I'm playing off that by giving trolls emotions that are completely unfamiliar to humans. We can do comparatives to understand them better but they'll never be exactly the same.

Troll romance/Quadrants them from the emotions that are completely unique to trolls and different from humans, the only one that can be said is a shared emotion between humans and trolls is the red quadrant but even that has some major differences because of the cultural differences between species.

All the quadrants /except the red quadrant/ (when pursued properly) makes trolls produce a pheromone when they feel those specific emotions, each emotion will cause a unique pheromone to fill the air in the close proximity (most times).

That's really all I have to say for now bc I'm lazy fhfhfhv but if you want to know about how I see quadrants SPECIFICALLY and how they work or how trolls go about it, then feel free to ask PFT.

I have a lot to say about troll biology tbh so bluh bluh BLUH

[flutterfan2007]

oh they are absolutely going to see the fnaf movie :33

[kabutoden]

aphids part 7. quadrant talk….

[felsicveins]

The whole lack of gender preference thing is reminding me of homestuck quadrants and how fucked up would that be in the trolls universe. That said I can see Floyd ♠️ Otto.

Is this what kismemes do 😳😳

[fuckkrat]

QUADRAIN

[rainismalyce]

Edits of an autism creature nonverbal communication image for Quadrant romance

Bonus: Flushed Pity Version

[relaxxattack]

do our seasonal quadrant holidays mean seasonal quadrant outfits too?

[saradiation]

Happy Holidays! 🎄❤️✨

[cure-typhoon]

Ngl, I hate how the fandom has turned "Karkat's being unable to keep things into one quadrant" into "Karkat would be better/happier just doing human romance"

Thats not how that would work

[gelarshiesprofruitboarder]

hello solkat enjoyers take this. thing.

[nekropsii]

♤crotuna is double awful to me as a mituna liker and also guy who is obsesessed with troll society. like thats not how kismessitude works its a rivalry you cant just put to people who dont like each other together and call it pitch. can anyone hear me. its so dark in here.

ALSO when people act like cronus couldnt abuse mituna if they were in spades... KILLING YOU WITH MY MIND. did everyone just forget about terezi and gsmzee???

Pitch is Rivalry, yeah. Competitive Self Betterment. A lot of people seem to forget some genuine affection is necessary for BlackRom to work out and that there's clear distinction between "BlackRom" and "Just Hating Someone". The reason they can get so intense is because you care about the other party. It's a hell of a lot easier to get mad at something if you care about it, either because you love that thing or because it's negatively impacting something you love. It's why politics get people so up in arms. Politics inherently spell out who you do and do not care for the lives and rights of, and if that steps on groups that represent people that others care about a lot, they're going to get angry. Because... Duh.

Abusive Kismesissitudes are real and extremely possible, and I hate when people act like "Abuse" and "Kismesissitude" are either synonymous or completely exclusive of each other. Gamzee and Terezi were directly addressed as being in an Abusive Kismesissitude. There was a whole damn arc about it. Confronting the fact that it was an Abusive Kismesissitude was done in plain terms and on screen. It's pretty clearly spelled out.

So, yeah, fully agree. Pitch CroTuna is not fucking real and it never will be, because Cronus does not love Mituna and Mituna does not love him, and they're not in a god damned Quadrant. Cronus is explicitly just Mituna's abuser, and while this does involve Cronus sexually assaulting him, the mere presence of Mituna getting assaulted does not at all equate to either of them having feelings for each other, and if you so much as imply anything near contrary to that point, you are a sick fuck and should get hit by a car. Cronus does not care about Mituna. He cares about the fact that he can take advantage of the fact that he's a very vulnerable target that people will not listen to if he tries to speak up about the fact that he is getting abused. Cronus says that directly. He admits to it, in plain terms!

This is not shipping material, this is explicitly, textually someone experiencing extreme violence and bigotry at the hands of a man who does not care for the rights, happiness, consent, lives, and bodily autonomy of other people. This is explicitly someone getting intentionally targeted and abused because they are a vulnerable, oppressed minority group and the abuser feels confident they can get away with the abuse. Cronus has openly admitted to wishing that "culling meant what it should mean on Beforus", meaning making Alternian Culling methods - which is literal eugenics - the standard, so that he could kill Mituna for the crime of being disabled and get away with it. Nothing Cronus has ever said to Mituna even verges on Pitch Flirting. Not even close. It's just raw, unfiltered violent abuse and hatred.

If one is going to fetishize or romanticize abuse, at least own up to it. Don't try to warp canon just to soften and blur the edges. Don't get coy. Be straightforward and tag + talk about it appropriately, like an adult. Because if you're pairing Cronus and Mituna together, you are not writing a Pitch Relationship, you are writing Extreme Abuse. This shit isn't consensual, and the playing field is NOT even. Do not pretend like it is. Do not get coy. Be honest.

[sickfires]

you know between tyzias being friends with daraya and dammek im surprised she doesn’t own a pair of spiked bracelets

that's what the oversized hoodie is for.

[vexwerewolf]

I love how trolls who are arguing in public get accused of flirting with bystanders for an auspistice

[juney-blues]

Personally I think it’s hilarious that a huge part of Homestuck’s “quadrant” system is “while this is a broader and more expansive view of Love than our typical human one, it is still unnecessarily limiting and most participants tend to find fulfilment in love that either trancends or lies outside of it.” and yet people still have stupid arguments like “ummm moirails can’t kiss it’s explicitly *not* romantic love like we think about it” like holy shit dude how did you miss the point so hard lmao