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Bengiyo Queer Cinema Syllabus

For those who are not aware, I have decided to run the gauntlet of @bengiyo’s Queer Cinema Syllabus and have officially started Unit 3: Faith and Religion. The films in Unit 3 are: But I’m a Cheerleader (2000), Prayers for Bobby (2009), Latter Days (2003), Blackbird (2014), The Wise Kids (2011), Henry Gamble’s Birthday Party (2015)

Today I will be writing about

Latter Days (2003) dir. C. Jay Cox

[Run Time: 1:48 , Available: tubi, youtube premium, amazon but you have to get a free trial to something else…I tried watching it…somewhere else but they were updating the movie so I caved and went to tubi, Lang: English] 

Summary: Latter Days is a 2003 American romantic comedy-drama film about a gay relationship between a closeted Mormon missionary and his openly gay neighbor. (from wiki)

Cast: * Wes Ramsey as Christian Markelli * Steve Sandvoss as Elder Aaron Davis 

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Content Warnings because I don't really write about those parts of the movie here: this film gets to a dark place, it includes self harm/a suicide attempt, homophobia, medical torture, and a story about being left to die by a parent. Alright, so after sufficiently crying my eyes out binging Eternal Yesterday, I decided there was enough time in the evening to knock out another film from the syllabus. Today’s film was (partially) about Mormons and Mormonism. My own personal understanding of Mormonism does not extend too far beyond The Book of Mormon: The Musical. Which gave me some impression that homosexuality is a sin, but only if acted upon. 

Which, is gonna suck for our poor dear Elder Davis, when he and three other Elders roll in to Los Angeles and in to a house across from our beloved booty shorts wearing waiter. The movie seems pretty low budget, and it’s from 2003 so there are some, what I would call cheesy camera effects happening at the beginning, but I still enjoyed the way the world seemed sped up and disorienting when Mr. Mormon lands in Los Angeles from his home in Idaho. 

I love our introduction to Christian as an unapologetically queer, slutty man and not only that, but Christian has his sex life together. He remembers who he has slept with, and when, and takes fucking notes and everything. Like, he’s truly impressive. 

gif from @bl-bam-beyond

Aaron and Christian make eye contact as every love at first sight story is wont to do, and then realize later they are neighbors. At which point a lot of decently subtle things start to happen. Aaron starts sitting outside to study his scripture in hopes of running in to Christian, Aaron and Christian talk about his mission trip, we get to see the four Elders interact, etc. and these subtler moments were aspects of this film that I deeply appreciated. 

Do not get me wrong, this film is absolutely critical of the Mormon church, (there is a scene near the end of the film where Elder Davis is getting excommunicated from the church for being a homosexual), but there are a lot of quite parts they do not say out loud around the intentional isolation that The Church of Latter Day Saints creates by sending their boys on missions trips in the first place. 

This film does not, in my opinion, explicitly discuss or state that mission trips really seem to be less to recruit new members and more to make sure their younger members don’t go running off to join the rest of society. The Elders are not allowed to see their family for two years, their families are not allowed to see them, they are not allowed to listen to music, to watch television, all the Elders in that location live together in one house, they share a room so there is no privacy, they go knocking door to door to try to spread the word only to have the doors slammed repeatedly in their face. These tactics exist to make these boys homesick, to make the outer world seem hostile, to bring the Mormon roommates closer together when the outsiders push them away. But the implication is there. 

I have to share the quote that comes with this gif: "You're gonna come in to my house and tell me God hates homosexuals?" || "And the French!"

And actually, the thing I appreciate the most about this commentary is the fact that the Elders are aware of this, and that they are allowed to be young men. I loved that one Elder was talking to Aaron about how mission trips were designed to be difficult, and that you can tell he is generally disinterested in spreading The Word. This Elder views his mission trip as the last major hoop he has to jump through before he can marry his girlfriend and “finally nail her”. Horniness fuels his motivation to get through this mission. 

These “Elders” (and I put quotes here not to strip them of their titles but to point out the irony) are nineteen or twenty years old. They are fucking gross. Their apartment is decorated like boys live there, with bean bag chairs and all, and they fart on each other, and wrestle, and bite their bedframes to try to stop themselves from jerking off. Hell, when they first move in, Christian mistakes them for a frat house. They are homophobic, and throw slurs around, but they look incredulous at the mere thought of consuming alcohol. 

The first time Aaron is faced with the potential to give in to his gay thoughts, he tells Christian he hasn’t done anything. When Christian says it doesn’t have to mean anything and Aaron says “yes it does”, he asks “my first time can just be a little fun for you?” like Aaron was fully planning on having sex with Christian. I like that Aaron, as a young man is going 0 to 100 with the physical intimacy. 

I often have difficulty with romance stories in movie formats because I have to push past how quickly two characters fall in love. Which is the case here that Christian is confessing his love for Aaron after they have interacted like…five times total. But, I appreciate the ways they show us that Christian and Aarong would be good for each other. We see them being absolute nerds, saying movie quotes to each other. I love that we know Aaron is going to break the rules and eventually give in to Christian, just based on the fact that he gives Christian his first name. Which he is not supposed to use when he’s on his mission trip.

gif from @bl-bam-beyond

I am not a religious person, so I don’t usually pay attention to whether or not a film that critics religion is going to take a hard atheistic turn or not. But I actually thought it was compassionate, kind, and in keeping with the nature of like, religion as spirituality, versus religion as control and fear tactic. I like that all these little coincidences happened, that Christian saw Aaron through his taxi cab window, that Aaron talked to and comforted Lila (Christians’ boss) when she was having a bad day and she gave him her card and told him to come to her restaurant for a free meal, that when Christian is looking for Aaron his random doodles end up being the phone number he needs to call, that Julie in stealing entries from Christian’s diary for her song allowed Aaron to hear it in the facility his parents put him in and return to LA, and that Aaron and Christian were reunited because Aaron cashed in on that free meal from Lila. 

And so too with the man Christian meets who is dying of AIDS, how he touches him and only sees snow. How he chalks that up to Christian being a blank person, shallow. The same way that Aaron has described Christian “there is nothing, nothing about you, Christian that isn’t skin deep”. And how we see Christian recoil from the touch, from the words ‘snow’ (and we will come to find out later, why that is the case).

Like these can all be coincidences, or they could be chalked up to fate, or a higher power, or whatever you want. Latter Days does not reject the idea of religion, it leaves room for a religious, higher power explanation to exist. Aaron and Aaron’s faith, the way he views the world, the importance that his values hold to him do still impact Christian. I don’t know how much he believes in God, but when Aaron calls him shallow, he takes that to heart, he really thinks about it, he realizes that what has been drawing him to Aaron is the depth, the conversations, they aren’t just gonna fuck. 

Not that I think monogamy needs to happen, or that Christian needs to have calmed down the sluttiness. Just, that in a film about religion and its intersections with sexuality, when you are going to be critical of a Church that has done very very real harm. That there is a mutual exchange here. Christian gets more depth as a result of meeting Aaron and Aaron (eventually) gets freedom as a result of meeting Christian. 

BL Side Note

I also need to say, since this syllabus is technically supposed to act as a lead up to BLs, that Latter Days has the sponge bath trope! Aaron wipes down Christian’s body with a washcloth after he faints from seeing blood. The sexual tension rises between Aaron and Christian, until they are about a fraction of a second away from kissing, and Aaron bails. 

For/By/About 

Gay Trifecta.

The director of Latter Days, C. Jay Cox is a gay man and a (former) fifth generation Mormon. 

This film did not hit me in the emotional place where I would normally say the films I rate as For The Queers go. But, this is a deeply personal film for the screen writer and Director who is gay and therefore it feels like it should be for gays. And, in addition I feel like they were enough casual references to things that don’t get full explanations that would read and be understood by a queer audience but maybe not by a straight audience. I think there are dimensional portrayals of the queer characters and they don’t succumb to stereotypes, and for those reasons I would categorize it as being for us. 

Favorite Moment 

The post-sex conversation that Aaron and Christian have, where Aaron asks if Christian has ever had the experience of being cut off from everything, and we finally get some more of Christian’s backstory. Now, like I said above, there are some understated aspects of this film that I do think are really smart. Aaron calls Christian shallow at one point, and my first thought was “oh honey, you are wrong” because of how Christian spoke to Aaron earlier on in the movie about being desperate to get away from home. Sure, Christian is generally now, emotionally reserved and has some growing to do. But, Aaron vastly underestimates the weight behind a gay man saying that he left home and never looked back. Because Aaron had a good relationship to his family (before he came out). 

If the monologue wasn’t multiple paragraphs I would probably put the whole speech as my favorite quote.  But, fundamentally what makes this scene for me is that Christian is telling Aaron this, while they are both naked in bed. Aaron has just had sex for the first time, and there is just this level of casual inclusion of nudity. I am generally an advocate for increasing the inclusion of non-sexual nudity on screen. I feel like people tend to spend a lot more causal time naked than they do sexual time naked, and I think Latter Days did a really phenomenal job of shifting between sexual nudity and casual nudity in the same setting, with the same characters, at the same time. 

When Aaron and Christian first enter the airport hotel, they are shedding their clothing with the intention of having sex. The scene is charged with sexual tension, shirts and pants are coming off as fast as they can, every movement brings them closer to the bed. But after they are done, Aaron, still naked, slides across Christian’s naked body to grab a watch off the floor, and Christian holds his leg so he won’t slide off the bed. It’s just comfortable. When Christian is talking to Aaron about his experience of being left in a snowstorm by his father, they are nude because they are being laid bare. I don’t know if I can describe it properly, but I just love that this really important conversation, where Aaron is learning that Christian understands far far better than Aaron ever could have thought about what you risk losing when you are queer, happens with literally everything out in the open. 

Favorite Quote 

“It’s early November, the same as now, and there's this storm rolling in. My dad was so determined that sissy boy was going to kill something. Snow came at us from all sides. The air, the sky, the ground they all became the same and horrible screaming white and I thought ‘we’re gonna be OK, right?” And then I saw my father’s eyes and they were that same white…and that’s when he did it.” “He did what?”  “Ran.” 

This quote comes from part of the monologue I mentioned in my Favorite Scene.

Score

8/10

Latter Days is an 8/10 for me for a few reasons, the acting was not always the best, it was clear they did not have either the time or the budget for perfection. There were stutters that read far more like actors forgetting their lines than they did like natural pauses. I also was not thrilled with the death fake out. Like, I am very much glad we did not see Aaron self-harm, and that some of the other torture he went through gets dampened a bit by dream sequence shenanigans. I figured that they were not actually going to kill Aaron off, but they do spend quite a lot of time letting the audience think he is dead, and I am not super appreciative of that.

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LETTERS FROM AN AMERICAN

April 7, 2024 (Sunday)

HEATHER COX RICHARDSON

APR 08, 2024

In August 1870 a U.S. exploring expedition headed out from Montana toward the Yellowstone River into land the U.S. government had recognized as belonging to different Indigenous tribes.

By October the men had reached the Yellowstone, where they reported they had “found abundance of game and trout, hot springs of five or six different kinds…basaltic columns of enormous size” and a waterfall that must, they wrote, “be in form, color and surroundings one of the most glorious objects on the American Continent.” On the strength of their widely reprinted reports, the secretary of the interior sent out an official surveying team under geologist Ferdinand V. Hayden. With it went photographer William Henry Jackson and fine artist Thomas Moran.

Banker and railroad baron Jay Cooke had arranged for Moran to join the expedition. In 1871 the popular Scribner’s Monthly published the surveyor’s report along with Moran’s drawings and a promise that Cooke’s Northern Pacific Railroad would soon lay tracks to enable tourists to see the great natural wonders of the West.

But by 1871, Americans had begun to turn against the railroads, seeing them as big businesses monopolizing American resources at the expense of ordinary Americans. When Hayden called on Congress to pass a law setting the area around Yellowstone aside as a public park, two Republicans—Senator Samuel Pomeroy of Kansas and Delegate William H. Clagett of Montana—introduced bills to protect Yellowstone in a natural state and provide against “wanton destruction of the fish and game…or destruction for the purposes of merchandise or profit.”

The House Committee on Public Lands praised Yellowstone Valley’s beauty and warned that “persons are now waiting for the spring…to enter in and take possession of these remarkable curiosities, to make merchandise of these bountiful specimens, to fence in these rare wonders so as to charge visitors a fee, as is now done at Niagara Falls, for the sight of that which ought to be as free as the air or water.” It warned that “the vandals who are now waiting to enter into this wonderland will, in a single season, despoil, beyond recovery, these remarkable curiosities which have required all the cunning skill of nature thousands of years to prepare.”

The New York Times got behind the idea that saving Yellowstone for the people was the responsibility of the federal government, saying that if businesses “should be strictly shut out, it will remain a place which we can proudly show to the benighted European as a proof of what nature—under a republican form of government—can accomplish in the great West.”

On March 1, 1872, President U. S. Grant, a Republican, signed the bill making Yellowstone a national park.

The impulse to protect natural resources from those who would plunder them for profit expanded 18 years later, when the federal government stepped in to protect Yosemite. In June 1864, Congress had passed and President Abraham Lincoln signed a law giving to the state of California the Yosemite Valley and nearby Mariposa Big Tree Grove “upon the express conditions that the premises shall be held for public use, resort and recreation.”

But by 1890 it was clear that under state management the property had been largely turned over to timber companies, sheep-herding enterprises, and tourist businesses with state contracts. Naturalist John Muir warned in the Century magazine: “Ax and plow, hogs and horses, have long been and are still busy in Yosemite’s gardens and groves. All that is accessible and destructible is rapidly being destroyed.” Congress passed a law making the land around the state property in Yosemite a national park area, and the United States military began to manage the area.

The next year, in March 1891, Congress gave the president power to “set apart and reserve…as public reservations” land that bore at least some timber, whether or not that timber was of any commercial value. Under this General Revision Act, also known as the Forest Reserve Act, Republican president Benjamin Harrison set aside timber land adjacent to Yellowstone National Park and south of Yosemite National Park. By September 1893, about 17 million acres of land had been put into forest reserves. Those who objected to this policy, according to Century, were “men [who] wish to get at it and make it earn something for them.” 

Presidents of both parties continued to protect American lands, but in the late nineteenth century it was New York Republican politician Theodore Roosevelt who most dramatically expanded the effort to keep western lands from the hands of those who wanted only their timber and minerals. 

Roosevelt was concerned that moneygrubbing was eroding the character of the nation, and he believed that western land nurtured the independence and community that he worried was disappearing in the East. During his presidency, which stretched from 1901 to 1909, Roosevelt protected 141 million acres of forest and established five new national parks. 

More powerfully, he used the 1906 Antiquities Act, which Congress had passed to stop the looting and sale of Indigenous objects and sites, to protect land. The Antiquities Act allowed presidents to protect areas of historic, cultural, or scientific interest. Before the law was a year old, Roosevelt had created four national monuments: Devils Tower in Wyoming, El Morro in New Mexico, and Montezuma Castle and Petrified Forest in Arizona.

In 1908, Roosevelt used the Antiquities Act to protect the Grand Canyon.

Since then, presidents of both parties have protected American lands. President Jimmy Carter rivaled Roosevelt’s protection of land when he protected more than 100 million acres in Alaska from oil development. Carter’s secretary of the interior, Cecil D. Andrus, saw himself as a practical man trying to balance the needs of business and environmental needs but seemed to think business interests had become too powerful: “The domination of the department by mining, oil, timber, grazing and other interests is over.”

In fact, the fight over the public lands was not ending; it was entering a new phase. Since the 1980s, Republicans have pushed to reopen public lands to resource development, maintaining even today that Democrats have hampered oil production although it is currently, under President Joe Biden, at an all-time high. 

The push to return public lands to private hands got stronger under former president Donald Trump. On April 26, 2017, Trump signed an executive order—Executive Order 13792—directing his secretary of the interior, Ryan Zinke, to review designations of 22 national monuments greater than 100,000 acres, made since 1996. He then ordered the largest national monument reduction in U.S. history, slashing the size of Utah’s Bears Ears National Monument by 85%—a goal of uranium-mining interests—and that of Utah’s Escalante–Grand Staircase by about half, favoring coal interests.

“No one better values the splendor of Utah more than you do,” Trump told cheering supporters. “And no one knows better how to use it.”

In March 2021, shortly after he took office, President Biden announced a new initiative to protect 30% of U.S. land, fresh water, and oceans areas by 2030, a plan popularly known as 30 by 30. Also in March 2021, Supreme Court chief justice John Roberts urged opponents of land protection to push back against the Antiquities Act, saying the broad protection of lands presidents have established under it is an abuse of power.

In October 2021, President Biden restored Bears Ears and Escalante–Grand Staircase to their original size. “Today’s announcement is not just about national monuments,” Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, a member of the Laguna Pueblo in New Mexico, said at the ceremony. “It’s about this administration centering the voices of Indigenous people and affirming the shared stewardship of this landscape with tribal nations.”

In 2022, nearly 312 million people visited the country’s national parks and monuments, supporting 378,400 jobs and spending $23.9 billion in communities within 60 miles of a park. This amounted to a $50.3 billion benefit to the nation’s economy. 

But the struggle over the use of public lands continues, and now the Republicans are standing on the opposite side from their position of a century ago. Project 2025, the blueprint for a second Trump presidency, demands significant increases in drilling for oil and gas. That will require removing land from federal protection and opening it to private development. As Roberts urged, Project 2025 promises to seek a Supreme Court ruling to permit the president to reduce the size of national monuments. But it takes that advice even further. 

It says a second Trump administration “must seek repeal of the Antiquities Act of 1906.”

LETTERS FROM AN AMERICAN

HEATHER COX RICHARDSON

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Vietnam War - Galaxy Science Fiction Magazine, June 1968

Sourced from: http://natsmusic.net/articles_galaxy_magazine_viet_nam_war.htm

Transcript Below

We the undersigned believe the United States must remain in Vietnam to fulfill its responsibilities to the people of that country.

Karen K. Anderson, Poul Anderson, Harry Bates, Lloyd Biggle Jr., J. F. Bone, Leigh Brackett, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Mario Brand, R. Bretnor, Frederic Brown, Doris Pitkin Buck, William R. Burkett Jr., Elinor Busby, F. M. Busby, John W. Campbell, Louis Charbonneau, Hal Clement, Compton Crook, Hank Davis, L. Sprague de Camp, Charles V. de Vet, William B. Ellern, Richard H. Eney, T. R. Fehrenbach, R. C. FitzPatrick, Daniel F. Galouye, Raymond Z. Gallun, Robert M. Green Jr., Frances T. Hall, Edmond Hamilton, Robert A. Heinlein, Joe L. Hensley, Paul G. Herkart, Dean C. Ing, Jay Kay Klein, David A. Kyle, R. A. Lafferty, Robert J. Leman, C. C. MacApp, Robert Mason, D. M. Melton, Norman Metcalf, P. Schuyler Miller, Sam Moskowitz, John Myers Myers, Larry Niven, Alan Nourse, Stuart Palmer, Gerald W. Page, Rachel Cosgrove Payes, Lawrence A. Perkins, Jerry E. Pournelle, Joe Poyer, E. Hoffmann Price, George W. Price, Alva Rogers, Fred Saberhagen, George O. Smith, W. E. Sprague, G. Harry Stine (Lee Correy), Dwight V. Swain, Thomas Burnett Swann, Albert Teichner, Theodore L. Thomas, Rena M. Vale, Jack Vance, Harl Vincent, Don Walsh Jr., Robert Moore Williams, Jack Williamson, Rosco E. Wright, Karl Würf.

We oppose the participation of the United States in the war in Vietnam.

Forrest J. Ackerman, Isaac Asimov, Peter S. Beagle, Jerome Bixby, James Blish, Anthony Boucher, Lyle G. Boyd, Ray Bradbury, Jonathan Brand, Stuart J. Byrne, Terry Carr, Carroll J. Clem, Ed M. Clinton, Theodore R. Cogswell, Arthur Jean Cox, Allan Danzig, Jon DeCles, Miriam Allen deFord, Samuel R. Delany, Lester del Rey, Philip K. Dick, Thomas M. Disch, Sonya Dorman, Larry Eisenberg, Harlan Ellison, Carol Emshwiller, Philip José Farmer, David E. Fisher, Ron Goulart, Joseph Green, Jim Harmon, Harry Harrison, H. H. Hollis, J. Hunter Holly, James D. Houston, Edward Jesby, Leo P. Kelley, Daniel Keyes, Virginia Kidd, Damon Knight, Allen Lang, March Laumer, Ursula K. LeGuin, Fritz Leiber, Irwin Lewis, A. M. Lightner, Robert A. W. Lowndes, Katherine MacLean, Barry Malzberg, Robert E. Margroff, Anne Marple, Ardrey Marshall, Bruce McAllister, Judith Merril, Robert P. Mills, Howard L. Morris, Kris Neville, Alexei Panshin, Emil Petaja, J. R. Pierce, Arthur Porges, Mack Reynolds, Gene Roddenberry, Joanna Russ, James Sallis, William Sambrot, Hans Stefan Santesson, J. W. Schutz, Robin Scott, Larry T. Shaw, John Shepley, T. L. Sherred, Robert Silverberg, Henry Slesar, Jerry Sohl, Norman Spinrad, Margaret St. Clair, Jacob Transue, Thurlow Weed, Kate Wilhelm, Richard Wilson, Donald A. Wollheim.

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Disney Plus has made the first five Air Bud movies available to stream.

Air Bud (1997)

Air Bud: Golden Receiver (1998)

Air Bud: World Pup (2000)

Air Budd: Seventh Inning Fetch (2002)

Air Bud: Spike Back (2003)

This is the first time ever the movies are available to watch on the platform at the same time.

Kevin Zegers was Josh Framm in the Air Bud franchise before being a guest in So Weird's "Second Generation" episode as Ryan Ollman.

He returned to the Air Bud franchise after the episode.

Zegers was in the first four Air Bud movies with another So Weird guest, Jay Brazeau (Mr. Cox in "Detention"), who has probably the most iconic line of the film.

Neither of the men are in the fifth Air Bud movie, Spikes Back, but C. Ernst Harth ("Boo" and "Troll") and Alf Humphreys ("Angel") are.

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Cine: Latter Days (2003)

El título de la película alude a la "Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Últimos Días", organización religiosa cuyos miembros son conocidos como "mormones". Cuatro jóvenes arriban a Los Angeles con la misión explícita de comunicar su fe, todos ellos llevando el título de "Elder" (son chicos de entre dieciocho y veinticinco años): Elder Aaron Davis (Steve Sandboss), Elder Paul Ryder (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), Elder Harmon (Rob McElhenney) y Elder Gilford (Dave Power). El grupo se hospeda en un complejo habitacional y descubre que su vecino es Christian (Wes Ramsey), un joven abierta, orgullosa y (también hay que decirlo) promiscuamente gay que trabaja de mesero en Lila´s, un restaurante propiedad de Lila Montagne (la ganadora del Globo de Oro e ícono cinematográfico Jacqueline Bisset).

El inevitable choque de pensamientos y creencias genera una grieta entre los cinco, pero es Aaron quien, luego de un pequeño accidente en el patio, ayuda al díscolo Christian con su herida e inicia un acercamiento que lo aterra porque teme convertirse en una deshonra para su familia y su comunidad, además de ser excomulgado. Pero el amor puede ser más fuerte que el temor, ¿o no?

Una vez más, los prejuicios (los de Aaron y los de sus compañeros, pero también los de Christian) se convierten en una amenaza a la interacción e incluso a la vida humana. La historia de C. Jay Cox, autor y director del filme, tiene muchos puntos en contacto con la de Aaron, aunque su obra no es estrictamente biográfica: proveniente de una familia mormona, luego asumió su homosexualidad tras su paso por Los Angeles. Así, logró una película considerada de culto en la riquísima y variopinta historia de la cinematografía LGBTQ: cálida, divertida e incluso tensa debido a los efectos de la decisión de sus protagonistas, a los que se suma Mary Kay Place como la atribulada madre de Aaron, Rebekah Johnson como Julie, gran amiga de Christian, Khary Payton, en el rol de Andrew, un compañero de trabajo (también gay) de éste, y Erik Palladino, que interpreta a Keith, a quien Christian ayuda debido a que enfrenta el sida en su estado final.

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Welcome to the world

Akva was rushed to a private maternity hospital, she didn’t need to worry about the money, Paisley was gonna take care of everything. While in very early labor, Jay briefly left to get changed, no way he’s welcoming his child into the world while in a low budget little mermaid drag. Thankfully, he came back just in time for her to start pushing. And while she was busy giving birth, June went outside cause, let’s say that someone still didn’t know Akva was pregnant...her own parents.

June: Hey yo Misses Singh. Ok so just so you know Akvamareen is giving birth. Yeah, she was pregnant that’s why you haven’t seen her in months, Sanjayson’s the dad. She doesn’t want anyone to see the baby though cause she’s giving it up for adoption. It’s not a closed one though, she’ll remain in contact with the parents, they seem like good people but maybe I’m biased cause I was a big fan of the adoptive mother beforehand. No this is not a joke, I hope you’ll understand. Riya: WHAT??? June: By the way, why are we holding our phone like that?

The reason for that is very simple. You see, for some reason, holding the appropriate phone for that pose caused June’s hair to turn the texture of the phone, spooky. As a result, she had to pick another one and for some reason, Misses Singh caused every phone to glitch no matter what. Life sucks like that sometime when you’re made out of pixels.

And then, after several excruciating hours of labor, Akva ended up giving birth to a baby girl, just like the ultrasound technician had predicted...Well, “predicted”, objectively speaking she could see the foetus was female, but who know, there’s always the possibility of a mistake happening. Or the baby could grow up and decide to not be a girl anymore, or she could have been intersex...Anyway, so far it seems like the baby is a girl. A girl who looked just like her mom, or at least the woman who gave birth to her, as Akva rejected that title. A little green haired mermaid, with lots of hair, lots and lots of hair for a newborn, with her father’s blue eyes.

A Halloween baby would have been cool, but considering she went into labour at around 10 PM, the odds were pretty unlikely unless she had gotten a C-section right after entering the hospital. Instead, the baby was born at exactly 5:00 AM on the first of November.

Now in the recovery room, the Coxs came to see their newborn daughter. They had a name in mind for her, but before, Paisley felt like it was more appropriate to ask Akva if she wants to name the baby. 

Akva: Absolutely not. Paisley: Are you sure? Akva: It’s your child, not mine. Pick the name, I don’t care.  Paisley: Oh um, ok. And do you want to hold her at least?  Akva: Nope. Damian: Are you afraid you’re gonna get attached? Akva: No, it is your baby, not mine. It’s not me who’s afraid to get attached, I’m afraid she’s gonna get attached to me if I hold her. Go enjoy your newborn, you deserve her. Now I just wanna recover and go back to my regular life. Paisley: God bless you Akva, God bless you.

Paisley and Damian took their new little girl in their arms, forever grateful of this wonderful gift what was a total stranger to them a few months prior gave to them. 

Whelp, that chapter of Akva’s life was hopefully over. Now, what’s next...

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In 1959, an alien experiment crashes to earth and infects a fraternity member. They freeze the body, but in the modern day, two geeks pledging a fraternity accidentally thaw the corpse, which proceeds to infect the campus with parasites that transform their hosts into killer zombies. Credits: TheMovieDb. Film Cast: Christopher ‘Chris’ Romero: Jason Lively James Carpenter ‘J.C.’ Hooper: Steve Marshall Cynthia ‘Cindy’ Cronenberg: Jill Whitlow Det. Ray Cameron: Tom Atkins Detective Landis: Wally Taylor Brad: Allan Kayser Sgt. Raimi: Bruce Solomon Coroner: Vic Polizos Walt: Dick Miller Johnny: Ken Heron Pam: Alice Cadogan Karen: June Harris Young Scientist: David Paymer Steve: David Oliver House Mother: Evelyne Smith Sorority Girl with Hairbrush: Leslie Ryan Lisa: Suzanne Snyder Kathy: Elizabeth Cox Todd: John J. York Patrolman with Searchlight: Robert Kerman Beta Zombie: Earl Ellis Beta Zombie: Robert Kurtzman Beta Zombie: Howard Berger Alien Zombie: Daniel Frishman Extra (uncredited): Greg Nicotero Young Ray Cameron: Dave Alan Johnson Chett: Jim Townsend Lori: Lori Lively Alien Pursuer #1: Kevin Thompson Alien Pursuer #2: Joseph S. Griffo Cop in Station: Jay Arlen Jones Alley Cop: Elizabeth Alda Film Crew: Writer: Fred Dekker Producer: Charles Gordon Associate Producer: Donna Smith Executive Producer: Billy Finnegan Original Music Composer: Barry De Vorzon Director of Photography: Robert C. New Editor: Michael N. Knue Casting: Ilene Starger Production Design: George Costello Set Decoration: Maria Caso Costume Design: Eileen Kennedy Special Effects Makeup Artist: David B. Miller Makeup Artist: Kyle Sweet Hairstylist: Frankie Campbell Special Effects Makeup Artist: Howard Berger Special Effects Makeup Artist: Earl Ellis Special Effects Makeup Artist: Robert Kurtzman Special Effects Makeup Artist: Frank Charles Lutkus III Special Effects Makeup Artist: Mark Maitre Special Effects Makeup Artist: Shawn McEnroe Special Effects Makeup Artist: Bruce Zahlava Makeup Artist: Bonita DeHaven Sound Editor: William H. Angarola Sound Editor: Clark Conrad Supervising Sound Editor: Joe Fineman Sound Editor: Doug Gray Sound Editor: Barbara Issak Sound Recordist: Brian Ruberg Sound Editor: James Wolvington Visual Effects Supervisor: David Stipes Visual Effects: Dana O’Connor Costume Set Supervisor: Gayle Evans Special Effects: Roger George Special Effects Makeup Artist: Tim Lawrence Movie Reviews: John Chard: What is this? A homicide, or a bad B-movie? Not exactly what you would call an unknown horror comedy, but there is the distinct feeling that it should be better known. As its cult fan base will attest, this is blast of a movie, a homage to the “B” schlockers of lore. Directed by Fred Dekker, the premise sees some alien beings eject a flask of alien slugs down to earth, which lands at a fraternity campus, something which cause mayhem some years later when a frozen body is disturbed at the medical lab and the slugs are unleashed. Cue infestation that turns people into zombies! The pic plays up to the clichés of fraternity based movies, with nerds and nudity on tap, all smothered in a gooey horror comedy sauce. One-liners are ripe, the characterisations also, the latter of which fronted by a glorious Tom Atkins as a hard drinking hard – boiled detective with issues and quips ready to be poured out. It’s not genius film making, but given the low budget it deserves its cult status, because it never pauses for breath and it’s very aware of what it wants to be – and crucially who its target audience is. 7/10 Dsnake1: Night of the Creeps is a fantastic movie to watch in many different situations: with friends, at a sleepover, in the middle of the night, in the middle of the day, and so many more. It’s an easy to watch flick, and it contains the right balance of horror elements, gore, campiness, humor, and absurdity to make each viewing as enjoyable as the last. It’s got a touch of body-stealing aliens, a touch of zombies, a touch of traditional serial killer, all mixed with all the fun that can come fro...

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Night Club Musical Act 099- Fly By

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1.  [00:00] Intro

2. [00:39] Vintage Culture with Coach Harrison- Hear You Calling {Vintage Culture}

3. [05:09] Disclosure & Eliza Doolittle- You & Me (Rivo Remix) {Geffen}

4. [09:53] Florence + The Machine- You’ve Got The Love (Sonny Noto Private Mix) {White}

5. [15:00] Meduza X Ferreck Dawn X Clemetine Douglas- I Got Nothing {Defected}

6. [19:17] Kaskade- On My Way {Arkade}

7. [24:25] Lufthaus- Ringo (Miss Monique Remix) {Armada}

8. [29:36] SeeMeNot- Deception (Hot Since 82 Remix) {Brainstream}

9. [34:12] Space Motion & Angel Sanchez feat Magnus- Moonlight (Space Motion Remix) {Space Motion}

10. [38:26] Ladytron- Destroy Everything You Touch (Space Motion Remix) {Ladytron}

11. [43:02] CHRSTPHR- Anomaly {Clubsonica}

12. [48:17] Marvin Gaye, Tiesto & R3HAB- Heard It Through The Grapevine (Pat C’s Run Free Edit) {White}

13. [50:04] Tiesto, R3HAB & Deborah Cox- Leave The World Run (Jean Luc & Nick Jay Mashup) {White}

14. [52:05] Heerhorst- Wimbo (6am Mix) {Drumcode}

15. [55:53] Grimix- Feel Me Too {Gemstone}

16. [59:52] John Summit, Hayla, Artbat, Camelphat & Mau P- Where You Are Metro For a Feeling (Djs From Mars Mashup) {White}

17. [01:03:30] Becky Hill, Chase & Status- Disconnect (Tiesto remix) {Polydor}

18. [01:06:28] Genix & flowanstasia- Dependent on You {Anjunabeats}

19. [01:10:43] Dom Dolla- Saving Up {Three Six Zero}

20. [01:15:23] Audien & Xira- One Last Dance (Farius Remix) {Armada}

21. [01:20:24] Pretty Girl- Sun Phase {Gallery}

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[coloradohq]

mw fcs? and do you allow model fcs?

i'm going to go ahead and provide some mwfcs since we're mere hours away from opening for plotting and when admin c returns, they can speak to the use of model fcs. do keep in mind that we have a wanted tag and some of these fcs may have been previously mentioned.

jessie mei li, kiowa gordon, martin sensmeier, niko terho, adelaide kane, danny pino, dj cotrona, ricky whittle, peter gadiot, zion moreno, kiana madeira, kiana lede, santiago segura, santago cabrera, harvey guillen, shamier anderson, zahn mcclarnon, jessica matten, nathalie kelley, nick sagar, raymond ablack, uli latukefu, jessica lucas, andrew koji, madison jaizani, alp navruz, deniz can aktas, michael trevino, levy tran, aiysha hart, ronen rubinstein, oliver stark, rafael silva, natacha karam, devery jacobs, alex meraz, tyler james williams, ryan o'connell, milo ventimiglia, gabourey sidibe, richard madden, jai courtney, cody christian, jesse james keitel, lucy liu, maggie q, tom austen, amita suman, jd pardo, clayton cardenas, hari nef, danny ramirez, keanu reeves, elliot fletcher, laith ashley, jordan gonzalez, mason alexander park, lindsey morgan, amber midthunder, adria arjona, alaqua cox, brian tyree henry, don lee, george robinson, aja naomi king, kofi siroboe, iko uwais, joe taslim, apo nattawin, carla gugino, michelle yeoh, tony leung, charles melton, ross butler, oscar isaac, mahesh jadu, anya chalotra, deepika padukone, varun dhawan, alia bhatt, sidharth malhotra, tabria majors, ben barnes

edit: model fcs will be allowed!

[hallmark-movie-fanatics]

TORREY DEVITTO AND ZANE HOLTZ STAR IN ‘’TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,’ A NEW, ORIGINAL MOVIE PREMIERING DECEMBER 17, ON HALLMARK CHANNEL

Part of the Network’s Annual “Countdown to Christmas” Programming Event

Inspired by the Troy, New York Tradition and based on the play, The Trial Before Christmas

STUDIO CITY, CA – November 28, 2022 – Torrey DeVitto (“Rip in Time,” “The Rite”) and Zane Holtz (“NCIS,” “From Dusk Till Dawn: The Series”) star in “’Twas the Night Before Christmas,” a new, original movie premiering Saturday, December 17 (8 p.m. ET/PT), on Hallmark Channel, as part of the network’s annual “Countdown to Christmas” programming event. Inspired by Troy, New York’s beloved annual tradition, “’Twas the Night Before Christmas,” is based on the play The Trial Before Christmas, written by Duncan Crary and Jack Casey.

Madison (DeVitto) is an actress who, despite working for decades, is best known for an an early catch phrase she’d rather forget. Looking to broaden her career, she sees the opportunity to direct a play in Troy, New York as the perfect chance to prove her skills. Part play, part mock trial, the show features two lawyers debating whether “A Visit from Saint Nick” was authored by Clement Clark Moore or Henry Livingston Jr. and has the audience decide as the jury. Madison casts an old costar, Connor (Holtz), who is struggling to balance time for acting and his young daughter, Josie (Morgan Saunders, “Aww Shucks”). Despite feeling a spark with Connor, Madison has a rule to never date an actor. Also joining the show are two of the town’s overzealous Moore and Livingston cosplayers. They are remarkably convincing – when they can be found. Less convincing is Madison’s lead actress, Lena (Sophie Bastelle, “The Clue to Love”), whose sole qualifications seem to be hand modeling and the fact that she’s the producer’s girlfriend. Soon, Madison worries that her first foray into directing will be a flop. Perhaps however, with determination, support from the town and from Connor, Madison just might find a way to make it all work.

“’Twas the Night Before Christmas” is from Muse Entertainment. Jesse Prupas and Jonas Prupas are executive producers. Shane Boucher and Caitlin Delaney are producers. Gary Yates directed from a script by C. Jay Cox & Gary Yates, based on the play The Trial Before Christmas, written by Duncan Crary and Jack Casey.

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Klangspot Recordings | New Techno Music 2022-10-14

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DATA: 2022-10-14 TOTAL: 104 GENRE: Techno

Hard beats only! Enjoy the best techno songs newly released.

Adam Beyer,DJ Rush,ANNA - Control - Remix

Alan Fitzpatrick - Stronger

Alan Fitzpatrick,Rebūke - Nice & Cool Trigga

Alan Fitzpatrick,Reset Robot - Lotus

Alex Stein,Transcode - Control Me

Alisa Andreeva,Noah Noar - Ishtar

Andre Keller - Great Attractor

Andre Keller - Shaping Reality

Andrej Meyer - Come With Me

Anetha - How Would They Know

Atroxx,Pleasurekraft - Clarity

Bart Skils - Horsepower

BEC - Bring Me Up

BEC - Fear Parade

Belocca - Dream Sequence

Belocca - Revolution Of Conciousness

Belocca - Voices In My Head

Camea,Will Clarke,Saskia Krause - Feel You - Will Clarke Remix – Radio Edit

Carbon - Express Yourself

Carbon - Free Your Head

Carbon - Think and Drink

Carl Cox,Nicole Moudaber - How It Makes You Feel

Charlotte de Witte - Apollo - Original Mix

Charlotte de Witte - Universal Consciousness

Chris Liebing - Time

Cosmic Boys - Carbon

Cosmic Boys - Take My Mind

Cosmic Boys,T78 - Little Hero

Deborah de Luca - Adrenaline

DJ Jordan - Let There Be Light

DJ Jordan - Night & Day

Dok & Martin - Transporter - Original Mix

Dr. Motte,Tom Wax - Plur

Droplex,Steve C - Poison - Extended Mix

Dubfire - CHALLNGR 1.1

Dubfire,Will Clarke - Sound Bath - Will Clarke Remix

Enrico Sangiuliano - Future Dust - Original Mix

Enrico Sangiuliano - The Sound Of Space

F-Rontal - Forever Together

Fatima Hajji - Solar System

Filterheadz - Keep on Moving

Gaga,Mateo! - Acid

Giorgia Angiuli - A Time To - Extended Techno Edit

Jay Lumen - Here We Go

Jay Lumen - Human

Jay Lumen - Mandala

Jay Lumen - The Spice

Joyhauser - Crawler

Juliet Fox - The Past, The Future, The Present

Juliet Fox - Vibrational Frequency

Klanglos - Release Me

Klanglos - You and I

Klaudia Gawlas - All My Ears

Kx5,deadmau5,Kaskade - Take Me High

Layton Giordani - Digital Age

Lilly Palmer - Don't Look Back

Luca Morris,Mozzy Rekorder - Summer Rain - Original Mix

Maksim Dark - Music Train

Marika Rossa - Halo - Original Mix

Mark Dekoda - Take You

Marlon Hoffstadt - Work It Out

Matt Fischery - Gravierend

Matt Fischery - Reflection

Nakadia - Back to Zero - Original Mix

Nicole Moudaber,Paco Osuna - What Is - Paco Osuna Remix

Niels Van Gogh - Moonwalk

Nina Kraviz,Locked Groove - Skyscrapers - Locked Groove Belgium Mix

Nur Jaber - When I'm Gone

Nusha - Noise Final

Pig&Dan - Pandemonium

Pleasurekraft - Ritual

Pleasurekraft - Sex and the Machine

Reinier Zonneveld,HI-LO,Oliver Heldens - Flying Octopus

Rico Puestel,Alexander Kowalski - Axioms - Alexander Kowalski Remix

Rico Puestel,Joyhauser - Afar - Joyhauser Remix

ROBPM - Elevator

Ron Impro - Pull Your Ass Out

Ross Harper - Prototype

Sam Paganini,Adam Beyer,Layton Giordani - Rave - Remix

Sam Paganini,Zøe,Wehbba - Flash - Wehbba Remix

Sebastian Groth,Markus Weigelt - Waste

Simina Grigoriu - 1981

Simina Grigoriu - Auryn

Spartaque,Bruce Zalcer - Open Book - Original Mix

Spartaque,Fabio Neural - Gilgamesh

Spartaque,Greenjack - Together - Original Mix

Stella Bossi - Boring Love - Edit

Stephan Jolk - Freedom

Stevie Best - Devils Kitchen - Original Mix

Storm,Balthazar & JackRock - Time to Burn - Balthazar & JackRock Overburn Remix

SubReverb - Vault

Teenage Mutants,Heerhorst,PETER PAHN - Angel Dust

The YellowHeads - Cool World

The YellowHeads - Error 909

The YellowHeads,HLGRMS - Obsession

Thomas Schumacher - Blakkout

Thomas Schumacher - No Rules Involved

Tom Wax,concious - Anodyne

UMEK - Persona - Original Mix

Uto Karem - East Berlin

Victor Ruiz - Confession

Victor Ruiz - Supernova

Wehbba - Strange Dreamz

Will Sparks,ShortRound,Deborah de Luca - Pills - Deborah de Luca Remix

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Single Mom Raises $900K Of Private Money? | Raising Private Money

https://www.jayconner.com/single-mom-raises-900k-of-private-money-raising-private-money/

“Attend Real Estate Events And Talk To People. Take Interest With Other People And Let Them Know What You Are Doing. Private Money Is A Win For Everyone” – Carly Mannino

Carly Mannino is Jay Conner’s student, she took one of Jay’s courses and has had exceptional success!

Tune in to hear how she raised $900K of Private Money for her real estate investments!

Carly hails from a little town called Lisbon, in the state of Ohio. There she graduated from Kent State University with a degree in both Business Management And Computer Science Technology.

After 2008 she decided to move herself and her two sons, Frankie and Anthony, to North Carolina where she is determined to no longer sit at a desk and start her own business as a Real Estate Investor.

After investing in her education from great teachers, such as Jay Conner, Ron LeGrand, Larry Goins, Vena Cox Jones, and more, she learned the many facets of real estate investing and was able to see her business grow.

She continued her education, became a Master’s student with Ron Legrand, and received mentoring with Aaron and Andrew Schlag, setting her business on a path to unbelievable success.

But it all started with her very first teacher Jay Conner, that taught her the significant step of how to raise private money. This is where the story begins.

Timestamps:

0:01 – Raising Private Money With Jay Conner

1:22 – Today’s Guest: Carly Mannino

3:18 – Carly’s Real Estate Business Before Using Private Money

5:06 – Private Lender vs. Hard Money Lender

5:41 – Where Do You Find Private Lenders?

7:05 – Private Money First Before Finding Real Estate Deals

8:53 – Combining Multiple Strategies In Doing Real Estate Deals

9:45 – How To Raise $900K Of Private Money.

13:10 – Never Introduce A Deal And Ask For Private Money At The Same Time

15:20 – Networking Is A Tool In Finding Private Money

17:17 – When You Finally Realized That Private Is What You Need In Your Real Estate Business

20:38 – Using Private Money In A Lease Options Deal

22:10 – How Do You Put Money In Your Bank Account By Using Private Money?

23:12 – How To Get Paid Three Times From Your Real Estate Deal.

24:58 – Your Networking Ability Is Directly Correlated To Your Net Worth – Jay Conner

27:00 – Jay’s Free Private Money Guide: https://www.JayConner.com/MoneyGuide

28:12 -Connect with Carly Mannino: DiamondCapitalAssets@gmail.com Tel # 919-964-0264

30:05 – Carly Mannino’s Advise For New Real Estate Investors: Attend Real Estate Events And Talk To People. Take Interest With Other People And Let Them Know What You Are Doing. Private Money Is A Win For Everyone.

Private Money Academy Conference:

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Free Report:

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Join the Private Money Academy:

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Have you read Jay’s new book: Where to Get The Money Now?

It is available FREE (all you pay is the shipping and handling) at

https://www.JayConner.com/Book

What is Private Money? Real Estate Investing with Jay Conner

https://www.JayConner.com/MoneyPodcast

Jay Conner is a proven real estate investment leader. He maximizes creative methods to buy and sell properties with profits averaging $67,000 per deal without using his own money or credit.

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https://youtu.be/QyeBbDOF4wo

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Apple Podcasts:

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Single Mom Raises $900K Of Private Money? | Raising Private Money

Jay Conner

00:00:02

Well, hello and welcome to another amazing episode. I’m Jay Conner, the private money authority, also the host of today’s show. And I’m so excited. I am a mover and shaker real estate investor in North Carolina. And let me tell you, my guess is making it happen. Now she’s originally from this little town up in Ohio by the name of Lisbon. If I’m saying it right anyway, she graduated up there from Kent state university. She’s got her degrees, she’s got a business management degree. She’s also got a degree in computer science technology. So back in and after 2008, she decided to move along with her two sons to North Carolina, where she determined to no longer just sit at a desk. She wanted to start her own business as a real estate investor. So after investing in her education and she’s got some phenomenal education, she’s a Ron LeGrand student, Larry Goins, Vena Cox Jones, and she’s even been to my life events as well. She’s learned about all the different facets of real estate investing and how to grow her business. Well, she continued her real estate investing education. She became a master’s student with Ron. She did mentor some fantastic brothers that Bo she, and I know, and I think she’s gonna share the story that actually her first real estate training came from yours truly. Anyway, that’s where the story began. And with that, I’m so excited to have you on the show. My good friend, Carly Manino hello, Carly. And welcome to the show.

Carly Mannino

00:01:45

Hey Jay, how are you?

Jay Conner

00:01:47

I am doing fantastic. Carly, I’m just so excited to share you with the folks that we’ve got here on the show and the podcast. My first question is, what did your real estate investing business look like before you started using private money? For all? I know you didn’t have a business before private money, but if you did, what was it like beforehand?

Carly Mannino

00:02:13

Oh, thank you, Jay. For having me. I did not really have one. I was learning I was studying, but I didn’t get to actually have a business. I didn’t have any way to start. I didn’t have any money to start. Cause I didn’t know quite what I was doing. So I started working on getting my education and learning the process of getting real estate. And then you happened to show up at a meeting. I was at talking about private money and who doesn’t wanna hear about getting more money that you don’t have? So it was a great way to start.

Jay Conner

00:02:42

There you go. So as I recall, you learned about private money at a real estate investing group that I was speaking at in Raleigh. Is that right?

Carly Mannino

00:02:55

Yeah, that’s right. That was back when it was TRIA. And you were the speaker at the main meeting that month.

Jay Conner

00:03:00

There you go. Well, let’s make sure that everybody’s on the same page here. What is your definition of private money?

Carly Mannino

00:03:11

Private money is having a relationship with an individual, not a company with an individual where you have a conversation and they commit a certain amount of money to invest in. And we secure that safely with a real estate piece of property and a note from the attorney, they receive that and they earn a good amount of interest and, their investment is safe and protected.

Jay Conner

00:03:34

So in your world of private money, you borrow money from individuals from human beings, right?

Carly Mannino

00:03:41

Yes. A hundred percent.

Jay Conner

00:03:43

So you’re not talking about hard money, right?

Carly Mannino

00:03:45

No,

Jay Conner

00:03:46

No, no. So what is, what is the difference between a private lender and a hard money lender?

Carly Mannino

00:03:55

Well, from what I understand, cause I’ve never used hard money is O often it’s a company, but they also like to use these ugly things called points. And nobody likes those. And I deal with individuals. So I like to meet people, build a relationship with them, get to know them, explain what I’m doing, and make sure they’re comfortable. And we go from there and we build a relationship and we do multiple transactions and they get to make lots of money.

Jay Conner

00:04:21

So where do you find these private lenders?

Carly Mannino

00:04:27

Well, just kind of the same way I found you. They started at the, now it’s called the NC R, but I have gone and talked to people there. I do a lot of networking. If you ever see me at an event, I always tell my people when I get there, I’m gonna make some new friends today and I get my business card and I go, and I try to talk to as many people as I can find out what they’re doing and if I can help them and what if they can help me. So a lot of times I’ll meet people and they’ll find out, but I tell everybody I tell, I get a lot of referrals, cuz I tell all my friends and people know what I’m doing. And once I tell them they tell other people and then they’ll call me and say, Hey, I know this person, did you wanna talk to them? And they give them my information and we start talking. So a lot of my business, luckily in real estate and in private money has come from referrals.

Jay Conner

00:05:15

So your private money and your private lenders have come as a result of networking and referrals. Right?

Carly Mannino

00:05:25

Right. Because I didn’t feel like I knew people that had money cuz you know, you think all your friends don’t have any money, but then I went to your training and found out, we could really start looking through. People have a lot more money than they think, especially when they have IRAs and, and different forms of financial tools that they can use to create even more money for themselves.

Jay Conner

00:05:46

Right. So did you get private money lined up from your private lender or private lenders before doing your first deal? In other words, do you recommend focusing on getting private money lined up first, or were you in the process of being a real estate investor, do you recommend a real estate investor that’s particularly new getting private money lined up? When should they do that?

Carly Mannino

00:06:13

I recommend getting the money first. Absolutely. I happen to do it almost simultaneously on my first one, but my first one was very small. I only borrowed $12,000 and it was someone I met at the team meeting and the house I bought was only $6,900. And I ended up selling it for 60,000, but it kind of rolled. They were very close within a week or two of each other.

Jay Conner

00:06:36

Wait a minute. Now, did you say you bought a house for $6,900 and you sold it and you sold it for how much?

Carly Mannino

00:06:44

60,000?

Jay Conner

00:06:45

$60,000. Well, how much money did you have to put into that house?

Carly Mannino

00:06:50

200.

Jay Conner

00:06:52

So are you saying your profit was 60?

Carly Mannino

00:06:57

Well, if you want me to back up a little bit, so I borrowed 12,000, I put 6,900 to purchase the house and 200 to repair it. So I kept the difference. That was about $5,000. I then sold the house. I got a $6,000 down payment. So that put me back at 12, I received the monthly payments for six months. So that was another, maybe $4,000. I sold a partial on the note, got 17,000 to put in my pocket, and paid off my private lender. Next summer, that note will come back to me and I’ll get all those payments for another 15 years.

Jay Conner

00:07:35

So you really combined multiple strategies on that deal. You used private money to buy it. Yes. But then, but then you sold it with seller financing on terms I did. And you took a note back and then thirdly, you sold off a percentage or a part of that note to put money in your pocket to the tune of $17,000.

Carly Mannino

00:07:59

Yes. And then I’ll start getting those payments at the end of the year. And that’s my very first real estate deal ever.

Jay Conner

00:08:05

That is amazing. Carly. That is amazing. So, so let me ask you this. Am I remembering correctly? I saw you at an event within the past month and you told me that you had raised, was it over $900,000. I did it with private money.

Carly Mannino

00:08:23

Yes, I did with one.

Jay Conner

00:08:25

All right. All right. We want, we want to hear the story. I want to hear the story. Well, exactly. How much did you raise? 900. And how much? 900. And how much money?

Carly Mannino

00:08:38

Nine. I, I needed 800. So I figured if I needed 800, I might as well ask for 900.

Jay Conner

00:08:42

Wait a minute. Now, are you saying you always get lined up more than you need

Carly Mannino

00:08:48

A hundred percent.

Jay Conner

00:08:51

So you needed a hundred thousand say what?

Carly Mannino

00:08:54

Whether you need it or not, whether

Jay Conner

00:08:55

Do you need it or not? So you needed 800,000 for the deal, but you actually raised 900,000.

Carly Mannino

00:09:02

Yes, I did.

Jay Conner

00:09:03

I love it. All right. Let’s hear the story. How did you raise a hundred thousand? How did you contact them? What was the connection? What did you say to ’em? Did you try to talk ’em into anything? Did you present an opportunity? Tell us the whole nine yards.

Carly Mannino

00:09:19

Well, as I said, networking is very important to me. So this came about a few months ago. I had told my best friend in California that I was gonna be looking for some money, for some deals I was doing. And she had given me a gentleman’s name in Arizona. I just gave him a call. I said, I don’t have anything right now, but I just wanna talk to you, try to get to know you a little bit, know what your process is, how you know, how I do it, how you do it, you know, figure that out. And we left at that. It was maybe a half-hour conversation, just getting to know each other a little bit. And then I got this great offer presented to me last month, the wholes sailor had brought me a property. Unfortunately, his comps weren’t quite right, but they were selling the property at 800,000 and the ARV was 1.35.

Carly Mannino

01:10:06

So the wholesaler said, so I was looking for some private money and I started going through my Rolodexes. Ron likes to say, I have about 10 or 11 private investors right now. And I said, well, I’m gonna call him because I knew that he worked with a group of his friends that they invested and I called him. And like you said, I never present a deal when I’m asking for money. So I asked him, you know, what he had going on and what he was doing. And I love his talk, cuz people love to talk about themselves and let you know what they’re doing. And I love to listen to it. So I like to hear what he was saying. And it was very interesting. He asked me what I was doing. And I told him I was doing some lease options and terms. And he was very interested in that.

Carly Mannino

01:10:46

And I said, well, you know, I, I’m always looking for new investors. If you want to do, you know, to try you out, you know, we could do a small amount, you know, 50,000 or less. If you just wanna see how I do it, see how much money you get to make in the short term, and get that back. And right, as we were getting ready to hang up, I said, well, you know, as you know, I always do the lease options. I do terms, but I do have this one cash deal I’m working on and I’m looking to raise about $900,000. And you know, we talked for a little bit and he said, you know, that’s a little bit more than our group usually does. We usually try to keep it under half a million. And I said, okay, I understand. No worries. And he was quiet for a minute. And he said, you know, let me call my friend. I was like, oh sure. Yeah, no worries. You know, let me know what they say. And we talked for a few more minutes. I said, have a great day. I’ll talk to you soon. And he texted me not half an hour later and said, I got you 900.

Jay Conner

01:11:47

And I was wow.

Carly Mannino

01:11:49

That’s amazing.

Jay Conner

01:11:51

That is fantastic. Well, Carly, you just said something in your story. That’s very, very important. And I really, really want to, I really want to circle back around to this. You said in your initial conversation with this individual, you told him in that first visit that you didn’t have a deal right now, but you just wanted to get to know each other and see if you might possibly, you know, do business down the road. Did I hear that right?

Carly Mannino

01:12:20

Yes.

Jay Conner

01:12:21

Well, I’ll tell you what is so important about that. Part of your story is I learned the hard way years and years ago when I started out attracting private money that I should never on a first visit, talk about private money and what it is that I’m offering in the private lending program. And also talk about a deal because I found out that makes me sound desperate. Even if I’m not trying to sound desperate, it sounds like I’m asking them to fund that deal. I’m gonna lose that deal. So my hat is off to you that you made that initial phone call just to establish that relationship thoughts on that?

Carly Mannino

01:13:05

Well, this very intelligent man once told me not to ever introduce a deal and ask for money at the same time. So thank you, Jake Connor. I took that. I took that to heart. And like I said, if you ever go to a networking event that I’m at and I’m always at a lot of them, I’m always up talking to people. And I always like to talk and get to know people better and, and find out their situation and what’s going on. And so it wasn’t too hard. Cuz like I said, a friend had referred me, I called ’em and said, Hey, my girlfriend gave me your number. And he was like, oh yeah, I love her. Do you know? And we started talking and it’s easy to build up a conversation when you have an introduction, even if it’s a cold introduction, she just gave me his name. She didn’t call him or anything. And we started talking and we went from there and it’s, you know, if you’re interested in people, they’re gonna be interested too. You, it can’t be one-sided. You definitely want to know what they’re doing, what’s going on with them, and how you can help them. And that helps you.

Jay Conner

01:14:00

You ed, you mentioned a moment ago that you’ve got 10 or 11 or so private lenders right now lined up. Tell us some more stories about how you’ve found those private lenders, and how much money they’ve pledged. So, you know, I can hear what kinda range of private money you’ve got from each one. But first tell us about how, how you met and started networking with these other people.

Carly Mannino

01:14:28

So I have about 10 now. I will say almost all of them have been through a networking event through a regroup of some sort I’m in different regroups throughout the country. Actually, after I got my first couple of deals, I flew to San Jose, California because I think that the investors out there when I ask ’em for 20 or $30,000, don’t think I can make any money with it. So I can ask them for a huge amount of money and I could do multiple deals instead of the amount that it would cost them to do one deal. So I went out there, I went to a networking event. I established a relationship with a couple of people there and they in turn introduced me to other people out there. So I built that group of people.

Carly Mannino

01:15:14

A lot of ’em I’ll start small just for their comfort level under 50,000, just so they could see because I can do that with a terms deal. I don’t need very much money if any, but then I have people that are up to four and 500,000 and now I have up to 900,000. So they do run the gamut. Luckily with the way I do lease options, I don’t need a whole lot, unless there are just some repairs, which I do have two properties right now I’m working on to have some heating issues. So those are gonna cost me a little bit of money to get set up. But otherwise, it doesn’t take too much and you can get it started, get a relationship, build that relationship and go up from there.

Jay Conner

01:15:55

So let me ask you this, Carly, how did it feel when you were able to really break through and really finally realize that private money was the thing that was gonna make so much difference in your business? What did it feel like when you got that first private letter that said, Hey, I’ve got X number of dollars. Yes. I wanna do business with you.

Carly Mannino

01:16:21

Yes. My first one, was $12,000 and that was the world to me cuz I didn’t have $12,000 and I didn’t really need $12,000. As you know, I only paid 6,900 for the house and 200 in repairs and I was just some drywall and it was amazing. It felt great. Cause I was like, wow, this really works. Like I could buy real estate. People would gimme money to do this, and they get to make money in return and it’s a win-win for everybody. And then we get to also help people move into homes that otherwise wouldn’t qualify for bank loans. So it’s really a full circle of being able to help people. Everybody wins in the circle.

Jay Conner

01:16:58

Absolutely. Has there been any kind of significant mistake that you’ve made so far in this world of private money that you would give as advice? Don’t do what I did. And you don’t do that anymore. Does anything come to mind?

Carly Mannino

01:17:15

Well, I have been blessed that I listen to everything you say and I do what you tell me to do thank God everything has gone smoothly. So I create continue to do so.

Jay Conner

01:17:25

All right. So really no, no big mistakes. No, no big hurdles to, to overcome. Well, I guess that sort of speaks to getting the right training up front, right?

Carly Mannino

01:17:36

A hundred percent because like you can see, I have all your programs here and I, I go step to my step. I make sure the attorney does all the paperwork. I don’t touch anything. I don’t touch the money. No one gives me a dollar. It all goes to attorneys. Everything is done legally. So we just make sure everybody is covered. Everybody is safe and everybody makes money.

Jay Conner

01:17:56

That’s awesome. When you first started actually raising money with that particular property in mind that you needed 800,000, how long did it take you to get the $900,000 pledged from the private lender?

Carly Mannino

01:18:16

That took no time at all? We were in Orlando when I was talking to you about it. I talked to Ron, the grand about it. I talked to you about it and we had just about gotten close to getting under contract. And I called this individual maybe three days later, maybe three days later. And he called me back within half an hour.

Jay Conner

01:18:40

So you got that $900,000 pledged literally within three days of actually looking for it. So to speak.

Carly Mannino

01:18:49

Yeah. And the other two days, I really didn’t look for it.

Jay Conner

01:18:53

So really you got it in one day, actually, you got it in 30, you got it in 30 minutes from the phone call. Right? I love it. Well, you know, Carl, you are such a Testament and a, and you know, I mean just proof that by taking action, knowing what your private lending program is that, you know, you want to offer to individuals, then it doesn’t take, you know, long at all. Now, one thing that you have mentioned a couple of times is how you use private money in conjunction with a lease option, or deal, talk through that as to how that works.

Carly Mannino

01:19:33

Well, that is great. You know, that helps a lot of people, especially if you’re just starting out in real estate, even if you’re not, but it does help you a lot. If you are just starting out, you might not have a lot of money to get started. When you build up these relationships and have these conversations with people it’s really helpful to start building up the money, cuz maybe you need a $10,000 down payment or if you need some earnest money or there are repairs and you don’t have that money, you build these relationships and raise this private money. So when you are ready, you can move very quickly. We like to close as quickly as possible a week, 14 days, and you can simply call your person, say here’s the property they wire to the attorney, they get there, their promissory note, and everything is legal. They get all their documentation, and everything that they need in order to go ahead and know that their money is protected and we can go ahead and close, and quickly help the seller out. Who’s usually having some kind of difficulty and we wanna help them out. So we help them out of their situation. And then we help the new buyer that won’t qualify for a bank loan and get them help as well. So it really is helpful all around.

Jay Conner

02:20:40

That is fantastic. What are your favorite reasons for using private money?

Carly Mannino

02:20:47

Well, originally it was putting money in my bank account cuz I needed some

Jay Conner

02:20:52

Well, let’s stop right there. How do you put money in your bank account by using private money?

Carly Mannino

02:21:01

Well, after we do the closing, whatever the difference is over the cost of the closing has to be refunded to someone. And in that particular case that someone is me. And then I decide from there what to do with the money, if it needs repairs or if we need to make some payments, sometimes we have mortgage payments coming up and insurance and different things. So that definitely covers that. And sometimes I just need money for myself. So,

Jay Conner

02:21:26

So, so what you just said is you’re actually getting money from the purchase of the house at the time you purchase it. And did you take any of your own money to the closing table when you bought that property?

Carly Mannino

02:21:41

No, never.

Jay Conner

02:21:43

So you borrowed more than you needed to buy it and you brought home a check?

Carly Mannino

02:21:48

Yes.

Jay Conner

02:21:49

How can you go ahead?

Carly Mannino

02:21:51

A big check,

Jay Conner

02:21:52

A big check. Well, how can you bring home money from the purchase? I mean, how can you borrow more money than you need to buy it? Isn’t that like overleveraging the property?

Carly Mannino

02:22:04

No, not at all. So a wise man, J Connor told me I had to get paid three times when I buy a house. So always get paid when you buy a house, get paid when you sell a house, and then get paid in between. And so when I borrow the money, it’s never over-leveraged because we get the house a great deal and we’re borrowing a very small percentage compared to the total price of the house. So the seller or the lenders are never at risk because we don’t borrow a significant amount compared to the price of the house.

Jay Conner

02:22:37

So the reason you’re able to bring home a big check when you buy is that you’re borrowing, not based on a percentage of the purchase price, you are borrowing bases based on the percentage of the after-repaired value. Right? Right. So that house that you bought, what was it? 6,000 and some bucks.

Carly Mannino

02:23:00

Yes.

Jay Conner

02:23:01

And you borrowed 12,000. So you’re bringing home like a $5,000 check or so let’s close in cost, but then did you, did I hear you say the after-repair value, you sold it with seller financing. The after-repaired value was like $60,000, right? Yes. So, your private lender that loaned you money of 12,000 is really very well secured because the value of that property that they loaned you money on was worth 60,000. But because you bought it at such a deep discount, you’re able to borrow more than you need to buy it. And therefore you bring him a big check every time. Right?

Carly Mannino

02:23:36

Exactly.

Jay Conner

02:23:38

I love it. I love it. Well, it sounds like your most favorite and effective way of raising private money is by networking, right? Yes.

Carly Mannino

02:23:49

For sure.

Jay Conner

02:23:50

Well, you’re a Testament to the fact that your networking ability is directly correlated to your net worth. Would you agree with that?

Carly Mannino

02:24:01

I would definitely agree with that.

Jay Conner

02:24:04

I love it. I love it. So, you know, in this market, Carly, it’s difficult for some real estate investors to find deals, particularly if they are relying on the multiple listing service. I mean, there’s no inventory, there’s nothing in the, I mean you put a house in the middle of listing service to sell and you know, it’s going just like that. Right? So that particular house that you bought for 6,000 and some bucks that were worth $60,000, how did you find that deal?

Carly Mannino

02:24:38

Well, this was a few years ago. This was shortly after my very first time coming to see you. So this one actually was on the MLS. Believe it or not. I think this is the one and only house I’ve ever done on the MLS. And this was before the market got too hot. This was about four or five years ago. They were asking more, but I’m a good negotiator. So we got ’em down to $6,900 on the negotiation. They were asking quite a bit more than that, but I did work with a real estate agent and she helped me. She, I tried to explain to her kind of what I was looking for and properties that have been on the MLS for a long time, over 3, 4, 5 months that hadn’t been selling. And we negotiated, it took a couple of weeks to negotiate, but they, we did get ’em down to the price I was looking for and we got it closed right away. But normally that’s the one and only house I’ve ever done on MLS. And I’m, I don’t really look there for my deals. As I said, I get a lot of referrals. I have a lot of wholesalers that bring me deals and we do some marketing as well.

Jay Conner

02:25:37

That’s awesome. Well, Carly, I tell you what I know that someone is listing that would love to be able to raise private money as you do, and like you have. And so I want to give away a free gift right now. I’m so excited about this brand-new private money guide that I just finished writing. And I wanna give it away for free. It’s called seven reasons why private money will skyrocket your real estate business and help you build incredible wealth. And if you wanna get on the FastTrack to private money, just like Carly has gone to www.JayConner.com/MoneyGuide. You can download it, get on the FastTrack to private money and never miss out on a deal for not having the cash and the private money. Just like Carly. Manino gets on over to www.JayConner.com/MoneyGuide, and gets your private money just like Carly has as well. Well, Carly, obviously you have proven that you know what you’re doing and someone just might be interested in doing business with you since you’ve proven to know how to do it. So if we have someone that’s listening and wants to reach out to you, Carly, and talk about being one of your private lenders, how do they get up with you, Carly?

Carly Mannino

02:27:05

Well, there are several ways to get hold of me. You can always get my email at diamond capital assets. That’s the name of my company, diamondcapitalassets@gmail.com. You can call me on my office number. We have that in here in Raleigh 9 1 9 9 6 4 0 2 6 4. We do have a Facebook page under diamond capital assets. We’re also on TikTok. We are on Instagram. We are on, oh, the other one. I can’t remember Twitter. Thank you. So yes, we’re around. So you can definitely find us. My company’s name is diamond capital assets, cuz we’re in the capital of North Carolina. So diamond capital assets and reach out to us. We’re always looking to get new investors because we’ve got a lot of deals going on. I’ve got a new set of properties, probably a set of 40 houses. So a little bit of private money would probably be helpful for that one.

Jay Conner

02:27:56

Wow. And as you said, you create win-win scenarios. So again, Carly’s company, the name of it is Diamond Capital Assets, plural diamond, Like a diamond you wear. And diamondcapitalassets@gmail.com that’s her Gmail address. Carly’s phone number is (919) 964-0264. And we’re gonna have this information in the show notes as well, but Carly’s phone number. She actually picks up the phone too is (919) 964-0264. And you can find her on her social media searching for Capital Diamond or excuse me, Diamond Capital Assets, all social media. Well Carly, what is your final advice to a real estate investor looking to get private money for their deals?

Carly Mannino

02:28:56

Just, I agree to say open your mouth, go talk to people. If you’re at an event, stand up, and talk to people. A lot of times they have the private lenders stand in the center of the room. Make sure you find out who those people are and go talk to them and just take an interest in other people and find out what they’re doing and what’s going on with them and let them know what you’re doing. And that way they’ll, you know, if you can either meet somebody that’s doing this or they can refer you to somebody and hopefully you can help them as well. And it’s a win for everyone.

Jay Conner

02:29:24

That’s awesome. Carly, thank you so much for sharing your story, your lessons, and your success.

Carly Mannino

02:29:31

Thank you.

Jay Conner

02:29:32

Was nice to meet you. Thank you, Carly. Thank you, Carly. Well, there you have it. My friend, another amazing episode and story of a person just like you, that is attracting and raising hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in private money. And she’s doing it by asking nobody for money she’s networking. She is sharing her story and offering a fantastic private money opportunity. And you can do the same thing I look forward to having you join us right here on the next episode. I’m Jay Connor, the private money authority wishing you all the best here to take your business to the next level right now with private money.

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Latter Days (2003) // dir. C. Jay Cox

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My Favorites (Gay Themed Movies)

BL/GAY ATW (BOYS' LOVE/GAY AROUND THE WORLD)

Movie: LATTER DAYS (2004, USA)

This movie will forever be one of my all time favorites. It was a low budget film written and directed by C. JAY COX. And it dealt with some serious subjects such as suicide attempt, conversion therapy, unaccepting parents and finding yourself.

The film boasted big name for such a low budget project such as Jacqueline Bissett, Mary Kay Place, Amber Benson, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Rob McElhenney and Erik Palladino

But as good as they were I think the movie went to the newbie leads of Steve Sandvoss as Elder Aaron Davis and Wes Ramsey as Partyboy Waiter Christian Markelli.

The story was about a Mormon missionary leaving Pocatello, Idaho to go on his 2 year mission. Living with 3 other boys/men that were out to tell LA about Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Elder Davis (Aaron) meets and is enamored with neighbor partyboy and sexually promiscuous Christian Markelli. Christian makes a bet with his friends he can bed one of the Mormons but when he gets close to Aaron almost winning the bet. Aaron calls him out. This affects Christian as he falls for the Mormon missionary. But after Aaron and Christian are caught kissing

Aaron is sent home to Idaho for excommunication in more ways than just religion as his mother and father basic Shun him leading him to slit his wrist. He survives (but you don't know that right away) only to be placed in a facility to fix his affliction of homosexuality. Believe it or not it ends somewhat happy. Aaron and Christian are reunited but no closure on rather or not Aaron's family accepted him. I'm guessing not. But it was still a damn good movie.

Something I didn't know at first. The screen play was adapted into a book by T. Fabris and published by Alyson Publications and France did a version called La Tentation d'Aaron (The Tempation of Aaron)

But sadly Steve Sandvoss has quit acting roughly after 2010 and became a farmer. Noble profession but given the chance with his talent in LATTER DAYS he could have been a household name. But that's just my opinion.

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C. Jay Cox

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Gay

DOB: Born 1962

Ethnicity: White - American

Occupation: Director, screenwriter, actor