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#I'm not a linguist tho
shiroandblack · 1 year
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It is a slow and gradual change, but the Noldor have started to abandon the letter 'Þ' in their words for the letter 's'. It was hard to pinpoint the source of this change, as with most innovations in the spoken word, it could simply be anyone deciding to pronounce a word in a particular way and others finding it better and following.
However, it is a conundrum for Indis who is of the Vanyar, who have not replaced the þorn. They would understand, certainly, if she did not speak the way they did. After all, she is of the Vanyar as they are so keen to remind her. To Finwë's people she was ever 'Indis of the Vanyar' or if they were feeling generous, 'Indis the Fair'.
"You have four Noldorin children, Indis," Finwë would shake his head and laugh, "my people have welcomed you for long."
But not all, she wanted to say then. And she wanted to say it now, as she saw Fëanàro's too bright silver-grey eyes piercing her own from across court. Indis swallowed, trying to hold his stare which has always burned.
Not for the first time, she wished Míriel had not died.
She had named all her children in the Noldorin fashion, forsaking the softer dialect of her own people. She had abandoned the soft silks and georgette dresses favoured by her people, replacing them with the samite and brocade of the Noldor. Her hair was no longer left loose to fly in the wind, instead it was braided intricately in a manner which has always been unsuited for her fine strands. The flowers usually woven into them were discarded and replaced with glittering gems.
And still — she is Indis of the Vanyar. They have never failed to remind her that she was not of their kindred. And Indis would always try to prove that she was, that her children were just as Noldorin as any other.
Now, they look at her and wonder how she will speak. Will she retain the þorn as the court of Ingwë does, or will she speak as them? Once again, converting a Vanyarin part of herself into Noldorin.
Fëanàro will take this as an insult to his mother, that is inevitable. Míriel would never discard the þorn in her name, but Míriel is dead and the dead do not make their will known to the living. Indis is Queen of the Noldor now, she must always put that first before her duties towards a dead friend.
So she speaks and it is with the 'sa-sí's her people now favour.
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exercise-of-trust · 4 months
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seemingly cool fiber arts person i followed a little bit ago just put radfem shit on the dash, anyway the blanket statement that the only contributions of men to textile production are capitalist/exploitative and the only contributions of women are household-centric/victimized is patently untrue. while less of a documented presence, women in medieval europe [1] absolutely participated in weaver's guilds and commercial cloth production [2], and men have been participating in household knitting in all parts of europe for as long as knitting has been a thing there [3]. like i'm not trying to say women haven't been deeply excluded from economic opportunities in the textile trade for centuries but you cannot be making sweeping statements like that about everyone in every part of the world through all of history and expect them to be true. do, like, a basic level of research and have a basic understanding of nuance, i beg of you [4]
footnotes/sources/etc under the cut, sources are a bit basic because i just grabbed whatever was nearest to hand but they should suffice to prove my point:
[1] i'm only referring to western europe here because that's the only region i feel comfortable talking about in any detail without embarrassing myself. systems of medieval cloth production in european guilds are not gonna look anything like the systems of hundreds of servants employed to do textile production for a household in china. don't make categorical statements about everyone everywhere all at once, you will end up with egg on your face.
[2] quotes from "when did weaving become a male profession," ingvild øye, danish journal of archaeology, p.45 in particular.
england: "in norwich, a certain elizabeth baret was enrolled as freeman of the city in 1445/6 because she was a worsted weaver, and in 1511, a riot occurred when the weavers here complained that women were taking over their work" + "another ordinance from bristol [in 1461] forbade master weavers to engage wives, daughters, and maids who wove on their own looms as weavers but made an exception for wives already active before this act" germany: "in bremen, several professional male weavers are recorded in the early fourteenth century, but evidently alongside female weavers, who are documented even later, in 1440" -> the whole "even later" thing is because the original article is disputing the idea that men as weavers/clothiers in medieval europe entirely replaced women over time. also: "in 1432-36, a female weaver, mette weuersk, is referred to as a member of the gertrud's guild in flensburg, presently germany" scandanavia: "the guild of weavers that was established in copenhagen in 1500 also accepted female weavers as independent members and the rules were recorded in the guild's statutes"
[3] quotes from folk socks: the history and techniques of handknitted footwear by nancy bush, interweave press, 2011, don't roast me it was literally within arm's reach and i didn't feel like looking up more stuff
uk/yorkshire dales: "...handknitting had been a daily employment for three centuries [leading up to 1900]. practiced by women, children, and men, the craft added much to the economy of the dales people." (p.21) uk/wales: re the knitting night (noson weu/noswaith weu) as a social custom practiced in the 18th/19th c.: "all the ladies would work on their knitting; some of the men would knit garters" (p.22) uk/channel islands: "by the early seventeenth century, so many of the islands' men, women, and children had taken up the trade of knitting that laws were necessary to keep them from knitting during harvest" (p.24) -> this one is deeply funny to me, in addition to proving my point uk/aberdeen: "the knitters, known as shankers, were usually women, but sometimes included old men and boys" (p.26) denmark: "with iron and brass needles, they made stockings called stunthoser, stomper, or stockings without feet, as well as stockings with feet. the men knit the legs and the women and girls made the heels" (p.32) iceland & faroe islands: "people of all ages and both sexes knit at home not only for their own use but for exportation of their goods as well" (p.35)
[4] actually? no. i'm not begging for shit from radfems. fuck all'a'y'all.
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drumlincountry · 2 years
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Every ✌️🏳️‍🌈💖queer vocab as gaeilge 💖🏳️‍🌈✌️ infographic I see has like aerach, maybe ait, and then the same list of terms that were directly translated from English by USI in like 2016. Cowards. Tell me the slurs.
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mishkakagehishka · 1 year
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Idc anymore i think i'm a good enough writer that i can say that when i noticed the pattern in what exactly makes a book "good" on booktok (and, bc of that, what makes it popular and top bestseller lists), it feels almost demeaning and denigrating to the entire craft. Idk if i should blame the way tiktok-esque social media has utterly rotted everyone's ability to concentrate and read more than three sentences, but literally none of those books are objectively good.
(Yes, yes, art is subjective. HOWEVER. Art is subjective when you look at style, at themes, at motifs, at plots and characters. Art is still a craft, it still requires skill. I've seen beyond the tiktok quotes of these books. Not even their editors are good given the amount of typos/spelling mistakes. That is not something that you should find in a traditionally published book.)
You look at these books, and you know the only reason for their existence is to make money. I cannot and will not accept that as art.
(I'm on Tumblr, of course I have to explain every point. Artists who make money off their art =/= people who only create art meant to be profitable. There is a difference between an artist who hopes to monetise doing what they love, who creates what they wish to see more of and who happens to then create something that other people wish to see more of, and a person who looks at what's trending and decides that making an unholy frankenstein's monster of a book that mashes all those trending tropes and motifs together would get them rich quick. The fact that a lot of these booktok books become popular because of nepotism is just the cherry on top. It's soulless.)
And to finally say what I wanted to say, it's because none of these books have any deeper message or even artistic value to them. You will find a few out of context quotes or paragraphs, ones written specifically so they'd look deep and beautiful when taken out of context, so that people would post them, so that people would buy the books. Entire books written just so those few lines could become viral and make cash. It cannot even be compared to a hook line writers would post to get people interested in their works, because in booktok's case, those are the only lines of quality and in the context itself, they are often out of place and forced.
I just hate booktok, i hate what modern social media has done to art. It's all created to be quickly consumed, for the few ☆aesthetic☆ glances, and then discarded. Just to make more money for those who are already nepo babies. As if artists needed more obstacles to jump over.
#of course historically it's always been the same#people with free time to create (rich powerful) created#very rarely did you see someone from a humble bg make it as an artist#which is why killing maiming everyone saying Shakespeare was actually a rich guy btw#but like it makes me angry personally#before you call me just jealous - i don't have any wish to monetise my art#my career ambitions lie in a different field (tho adjacent i suppose since i'm a linguist)#i'm saying it makes me angry for other writers who want to make money doing what they love most#it's always been hard. you've always had to have connections or fight tooth and nail for a chance at being published#why? because of how SUBJECTIVE it is#but at least if your skills distinct you and if you bring a truly unique concept you'd have better chances#then modern social media rolled around and no longer can we just publish and disappear no no#WE have to market our works. on twitter on instagram on podcasts on the radio and tv it's up to the authors#i already found that demeaning enough as an introvert#but now it's not even that. publishers no longer look for unique and distinct#they found out booktok is the real cash cow. they look for colleen hoovers who publish fifty books a year#all of poor quality but with enough aesthetic lines that they can easily be marketed thru#the youth who uses AO3 tags and ''omg it's so girlboss!'' and ''it has representation! (not really it's always piss poor rep)'' to market#it to others. who take the same line over and over and go ''omg... this is so deep'' but the lines never look good in context
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stickers-on-a-laptop · 2 months
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the best way to disguise a known language is to use other languages' alphabets (or fonts)
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tricornonthecob · 8 months
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This is an odd question I guess but its bugging my hyperfixating brain: from what I understand, the period dialect of 18th century British North America would more likely contract "it is" to "'tis," instead of "it's," which is the default for a 21st century ear. I don't actually know how certain this is, though - human language is soft and pliable over time and no one group of people follow anything strictly, and how certain are we, anyway, that this would be a "correct" way to reconstruct the dialect?
Anyway, I'd like to write spoken grammar and cadence to be more period-accurate in my fanfics, but I do understand that going all-in on it risks making the dialogue sound contrived, which is, in my opinion, a greater sin than a little bit of anachronism in my contractions. The mortal sin of Can't Relate against the venial sin of A Little Bit Not Correct.
Anyway tl;dr what do y'all think?
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eastern-lights · 2 years
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Only my dumb ass can hear Spanish and go
"Ah, yes, Latin with a Greek accent."
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foreignobjecticus · 11 months
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Tries to speak German, speaks Dutch. Tries to speak Italian, speaks Spanish.
Tries to speak English, fuck knows...
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airenyah · 1 year
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bad news: i'm at roughly 3000 words out of 8000-10.000 words that i need to write for my thesis, preferably till tomorrow night
good news: i've easily got 5000 words for my analysis part!!!!!
anyone wanna place some bets about the number different series i'll manage to stick into my bachelor thesis
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You speak french ?
Un peu oui! Mais je ne parle pas couramment :(
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sl33py-g4m3r · 22 days
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long rant thing before sleeping.....
pointless question before sleep but it's something I've been currently thinking about and its bugging me a bit.
apparently other vegetarians (outside the US) I think use dairy but don't eat eggs...
I've watched "Blondie In China"'s videos on youtube about being vegetarian and vegan in china, and she says that in the end of her "vegan in china" video that vegetarians outside the US (india i think and other middle eastern and eastern countries but I could be horribly incorrect) don't eat eggs.
This has made me wonder about whether I should keep eating eggs or not.... I don't eat them often, but I do. Especially as they are in a majority of baked goods like cookies and the like.
But is taking eggs and using them justifiable?
or do other vegetarians abstain from dairy as well?
I thought that in some places; as well as in the past when that word was first initially used, vegetarian meant what we'd call vegan today.
throwing further arguments into question....
I've been vegetarian for well over 100 days since the new year (but only 15 or so currently recorded because I changed tracking apps cause the one I was using you need a subscription for and the current one does everything (except export data) the other does for free... eg it shows you animals saved, how long you've been vegetarian or vegan for, gives you co2 and water saving amounts and lets you track what animal foods you eat per gram (not just meat)... it even has recipes and a guide if you need help... all free to download and use without a subscription. but that's a rant I didn't need to go on. oops.
but ye tldr of this "i'm tired and should go to bed" post is; should I continue to eat eggs or is it unjustifiable?
what about use of caffeine? Is this bad too or ok if you only drink 2 cups of coffee a day? Was planning on stopping drinking coffee as well and just drinking decaf/herbal teas instead. but I also have a lot of coffee to burn through before I run out to begin with...
probably an outlier cause I'm the odd one in society so I shouldn't be complaining about this I guess; but I hate how eating meat and meat based food is so prevalent and everywhere... It's like we can't escape it.
and if vegetarians or vegans try to advocate for less meat consumption = less unnecessary death; we're subject to violence, hate and anger even if we're being peaceful about it.
Tho I'm too nice and meek to even speak out about it at all.... and wouldn't know what I'd do if confrontation did happen.... rip any advocacy at all.... ever..... cause I'm afraid of how people react..... yay anxiety.....
I have a feeling there's no point to this dumpster fire of a post...... hope it's coherent at least.... and some of these posts are just me trying to make up my mind about something tbh......
cause I genuinely just
idk
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iobartach · 2 months
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@gazelessmenagerie [mauga] asked; Mauga would never, in his life, absolutely won't ever.....draw dicks on Miguel's face when he catches the scientist sleeping.
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From the moment that he awoke, he could tell that something was amiss. That the reigning silence was merely a cover for persons, like the fun-loving Samoan, that weren't seemingly present to cause havoc-- and rake in the laughs. In need of a mirror immediately, feet meet floor as he extracts himself from the couch, gangly limbs showing themselves to be completely free of vandalism as he rises and walks a few steps forward.
Vowing already to claw back some revenge, before he reached the plotting phase, Miguel heads over to a lab table, pulling out the drawer beneath to retrieve a small handheld mirror, used occasionally during his experiments. Bringing the item towards his face, spying the damage done almost instantly, Miguel's first reaction is to groan loudly, giving a glimpse of sharp ivories as a palm is pressed over his nose and eyes.
No guesses were needed to determine whose handiwork the crude drawings were the product of-- if anything, his nose could still defect a trace of the permanent marker's stench used, emanating from nearby.
"Cuando te atrapo, Mauga..."
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Un tigre a entré ma chambré et a demandé "Que fais-tu?". Et j'ai du, "Putain quoi?!"
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yknow, for all the lack of intelligence everyone attributes to BloodMoon, they actually have a really high vocabulary
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mishkakagehishka · 1 year
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Wait, wait, wait. You're a linguist??
My sincere condolences (<- also a linguist)
Let's suffer as linguists. Together
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linguaphiliax · 10 months
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I finally got the Tumblr app, and I now understand the appeal of the website.
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