#Iceberg (Suicide Squad)

[pixie-mask]

[watch-joey-collect]

[doraambrose]

where exactly would you put jason's moral code? when does he kill someone, when does he not? does he feel bad for accidentally killing the wrong guy? does he think he can be wrong? what if he kills a kid's parents and the kid lands on the streets? does he prioritise the criminal or the victim? what is going too far, where does he draw his moral line in the sand? does he ever cross it? how does he react and how does he cope when he has to cross it?

Hello friend! Thanks for the ask!

Jason definitely has a moral code, it's just very different, but it's strong. As far back as under the red hood, jason made it clear that he doesn't kill kids and he won't let anyone else kill kids. During his robin days, he was strict about how men who hurt women should be dealt with. He doesn't hurt women and children.

In terms of whether he feels bad, I absolutely feel like he does and he does have a heart. Just think about his relationship with Suzie in RHATO. They hated each other at first and by the end, he gave the iceberg lounge to her and her family. In suicide squad get joker, he was able to put certain differences aside for his team. And he definitely is able to think he's wrong. He's had several realizations over the years, his latest being titans beast world and his biggest one was to stop using guns after urban legends. This also ties into the other question of what happens when he kills a kids parents. For that answer, it's put out there pretty blatantly in batman urban legends.

He also seems to prioritize the victim over the criminal, but that does vary sometimes.

Alot of your questions about going too far and morality can be answered by titans beast world gotham and batman urban legends, there's a lot of personal growth and talk about morality.

Thanks for the ask friend!

[thekingofwinterblog]

you know, if there is anything positive to take away from the absolute braindead idea that was Suicide Squad Kill the Justice leage, and the way it destroyed the Arkham setting in such a decisive fashion, its that Rocksteady Studios will hopefully serve as a reminder for other game studios that they can in fact go bankrupt when they decide to destroy their own franchises, and unlike movie universes like Disney Star Wars(which has been propped up by disney money even if every single product after rise of skywalker except the mandalorian, has been an abysmal failure financially), it is much easier for Game Companies and franchises to crash and burn permanently.

Harley executing Arkham Batman feels very much like Joel getting his head caved in with a Gold Club, and just like that game, There is no future for a sequel to either game.

There are two differences between Rocksteady and Naugthy Dog.

Regardless what I and many, many others think about the Game, and the way it cratered in sales very, very quickly once word got out about it's abyssmal story, the game did sell astonishingly well in that first period, more than enough to make their money back and then some. Sure as a long term project it effectively killed any future sales on anything except remakes/remasters of the original, but it made a lot of money for the company.

Suicide Squad will most certainly NOT sell enough to make any kind of similar profits.

The bigger difference though, is that though the future continuation of The Last of us as a Gaming franchise is as dead as Joel, Naughty Dog has other franchises it can fall back on in the long term, most notably Uncharted.

Rocksteady has no such franchises. other than one, single obscure FPS from 2006, The company has no other games whatsoever under its belt other than the Arkham Games.

This was their one, single, golden goose franchise, and like so many others in the last 10 years, they arrogantly decided to torch the franchise with no heed to the consequences, assured that fans would just buy it regardless of quality, assured that they could piss in a glass and call it wine, and everyone would drink it and praise it to the heavens.

They will not.

Rocksteady has just committed, fittingly enough, Suicide, and this game will go down, maybe not the biggest video game disaster in history, but certainly one of the most predictable, and avoidable icebergs ever in the industry.

Hopefully, others will take note once the fallout actually sets in, but probably not. We'll probably see more than a few similar disasters unfold before western video game companies take the hint that people are bloody tired of this abyssmal, predictable, and almost always poorly executed form of "Deconstructive" storytelling plaguing modern western storytelling.

[notanemployeeatbellereve]

Suicide Squad Members both Past and Present (Minus both Captain Boomerangs)

Amanda Waller

Rick Flag Jr

Rick Flag Sr

Deadshot

Bronze Tiger

Enchantress

Blockbuster

Briscoe

Karin Grace 

Mindboggler

Nemesis

Nightshade

Plastique

Black Orchid

Penguin

Killer Frost (Louise Lincoln)

Multiplex

Slipknot

Parasite (Rudy Jones)

Manhunter/Privateer

Duchess

Speedy

Vixen

Mr. 104

Weasel

Psi

Javelin

Captain Cold

Shade the Changing Man

Oracle

Count Vertigo

Dr. Light

Punch

Jewelee

Shrike

Ravan

Lady Liberty

Silent Majority

Major Victory

Poison Ivy

Atom

Thinker

Schrek

Stalnoivolk

Black Adam

Catalyst

Enforcer

Firehawk

Maser

Karma

Outlaw

Silver Swan

Sportsmaster

The Writer

King Shark

Knockout

Sam Makoa

Sidearm

Quartzite

Shrapnel

Thermal

Flex

Bolt

Cameron Chase

Copperhead

Sledge

Plasmus

Manchester Black

Chemo

Steel

Mongul

Sgt. Frank Rock

Big Sir

Bulldozer

Clock King

Cluemaster

Major Disaster

Multi-Man

Havana

Modem

Larvanaut

Eliza

Putty

Blackstarr

Reactron

Solomon Grundy

Hawkman

Power Girl

Star-Spangled Kid

Wildcat

Double Down

Atom Smasher

Persuader

Electrocutioner

Icicle

Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch)

Tattooed Man

Bane

The General

King Faraday

Marauder

Thinker II

White Dragon

Twister

Blackguard

Windfall

Virtuoso

Yasemin Soze

Black Spider

El Diablo

Harley Quinn 

Savant

Voltaic

Yo-Yo

Crowbar

Iceberg

Lime

Light

The Unknown Soldier

James Gordon Jr.

Cheetah

Power Girl

Warrant

Steel

Black Manta

Deathstroke

Joker's Daughter

Reverse Flash (Daniel West)

Parasite (Joshua Michael Allen)

The Hunky Punk

Katana

Killer Croc

Mad Dog

Killer Frost (Caitlin Snow)

General Zod

Juan Soria

Lord Satanis

Master Jailer

Merlyn

Rag Doll

Scream Queen

Shimmer

Tao Jones

Skorpio

Baby Boom

Zoomax

Lawman

Snakebite

Lok

Cavalier

Magpie

The Shark (totally different guy from King Shark)

Zebra-Man

The Aerie

Chaos Kitten

Deadly Six

Fin

Jog

Osita

Thylacine

Wink

Black Mask

Film Freak

Peacemaker

Shrike (Boone)

Culebra

Exit

Mindwarp

Nocturna

Match

Talon

Branch

Keymaster

Warp

Bloodsport

Ambush Bug

Black Siren

Nightmare Nurse

Heat Wave

Major Force

KGBeast

Victor Zsasz

Madame Crow

Black Hand

Etrigan the Brainiac 666

Gunbunny

Gunhawk

Gentleman Ghost

Juniper

Klarion the Witch Boy

Snargoyle (deceased)

Wither

Aladdin

Alchemaster (deceased)

Doctor Thaumaturge 

Etrigan

Azucar

Black Bison

Pigeon

Johnny Sorrow

Rustam

Doctor Polaris

Emerald Empress

Lobo

Cyclotron

Behemoth

Leviathan

Zizz

Bloodletter

Akando

Giganta

Brainwave

Doctor Destiny

Doctor Psycho

Dubbilex

Hector Hammond

Jemm

Looker

Manchester Black

Maxwell Lord

Mento

Psimon

Acero

Dulce

El Dorado

El Gaucho

Monstruo

Silbón

Zachary Zatara

Mirror Master (Sam Scudder)

Parademon

Fisherman

Lor-Zod

Clayface

Polkadot Man

Gotham/Bane (idk some dude named Henry Clover Jr.?)

Man-Bat

Arkham Knight

Sundowner

Mr. Bloom

Two-Face

Mr. Freeze

Deadbolt

Lashina

Luke Fox

The Verdict

T.D.K.

Ratcatcher II

Killer Frost (Crystal Frost)

Ten Eyed Man

@ednygmaaskme I'm sorry it's long as hell. I also want to apologize in advance if this list has duplicates. It's hard to keep track.

[thesparkwhowalks]

Suicide Squad: Born to Die

I actually intended this list to be considerably more extensive but I actually got bored making it. The Suicide Squad is easily in my top five favorite superhero teams (behind the JSA, X-Men, and Power Rangers) but almost everyone to write them since John Ostrander has had an annoying-ass habit: introducing new characters as sacrificial lambs.

The original Suicide Squad series wasn't that bloodthirsty, despite the name, and every character killed off was relatively well established. When Keith Giffen relaunched the series in 2001, he started off on that same path killing most of the Injustice League from his JLI run. Then, starting in Suicide Squad #3, he introduced brand-new villains just for them to die.

Adam Glass started off his New 52 run playing it straight but quickly began subverting expectations with newcomers like Yo-Yo and Iceberg become team mainstays. The practice is, thankfully, not to common but still crops up and is still annoying - it's not interesting to kill a brand new character!

Top Row: Putty, Eliza, and Larvanaut (Suicide Squad 2001 #3) Bottom Row: Voltaic (Suicide Squad 2011 #1-2), Hunky Punk (New Suicide Squad 2014 #17-20), Cyclotron (Suicide Squad 2016 #9).

[sauriansolutions]

God dammit God damnit

Tw... bad irl stuff, dead animal/dead pet tw's, severe depression/abuse/suicide tw's. Please I beg you to just scroll past this if you think you don't have the spoons to handle seeing it. Trust me I get it, if it wasn't my stuff I wouldn't want to know about it either.

Fuck I'm really not doing okay.

I just got back from my typical overnight shift, then went grocery shopping for the the 5 things I could afford, and finally came home to find

MY FROG DIED.

She was a little, underweight, green tree frog I got at one of the horrible chain pet stores because they had "boring, normal" tree frogs on sale, and this poor girl was underweight and had only one eye. (I called her Odinna.)

I had her for almost two years. I brought her with me, as one of my few possessions I wasn't forced to just abandon due to lack of space, when I moved cross-country after I couldn't afford to stay as a resident of the state I used to live in anymore.

I found her dead body while receiving a string of texts from my boss chewing me out for apparently stocking a product incorrectly. Some highlights:

"Don't ever (do task I previously claimed I entrusted to you) again!"

"All of (task) has to be redone because you fucked up!"

"If my boss would have seen this. Or his boss. Holy hell."

*also, photos of the hours of work I did last night being angrily undone, just to push the point home?*

I *put a product on the shelf wrong.* (I was never told the correct way.) Call the fucking firing squad, I guess.

It's not even these specific things, it's.

I don't have anybody I feel like I can safely talk about things like this with, otherwise I wouldn't be dumping this on the blog I tried to make for happy escapism.

I've been in so many long-term abusive relationships, I guess I don't know how to NOT be treated like shit. I've been trying though? I'm worried I might be too autistic and cptsd to even recognize what is a toxic relationship versus, I don't know, a normal snag between folks?

Pretty sure my boss and my roommate have been treating me like shit for awhile though. And I'm so dumb, I'm only just starting to recognize the patterns. Again. AGAIN. The same ones that--

Oh but, idk, maybe it's just me though? Maybe I am in fact so annoying, I deserve to have eyes rolled at me, to be cut off every time I try to talk, to be spoken to in this clipped, exasperated tone. Spoken *at*, more like.

But?? I don't think literally everything I say is stupid. I don't think literally everything I do deserves to be ignored if done well; and don't think I deserve to be excessively, humiliatingly berated if I make, (what seem to me at least? it's entirely possible I am the idiot?) really small, ultimately unimportant, and understandable mistakes??

Maybe I'm also insane to think this, but oh no I'm going to go THERE. Yeah so um... I feel like maybe I should be making a living wage? Hey, that would be cool. Maybe I should get at least like, ONE 15-20 minute food break on my "8 hour" overnight shifts? Maybe I should be getting healthcare (and maybe like what, 401k? Other kinds?) of benefits too, (what other kinds of benefits even exist? Dental? Vision?? Who the fuck has ever had their employer buy them glasses that sounds crazy!), esp considering I'm continuing to work my ass off while raw dogging it through venlafaxine withdrawals (lost my health insurance so fuck me I guess!!) and basically destroying my mental health, working anytime, all the time, full-time, with mandatory overtime--

That's only the tip of the goddamned iceberg, but enough, enough, I'm depressing myself too much to go on even just writing this.

Writing this is an exercise in acknowledging that it's all stuff that happened, not some nightmare. And had an effect on me. I had gotten so good at drugging and drinking myself to sleep, and ignoring, and ignoring,

I feel so trapped. I've been trying to like myself more, and there's a certain point that means you have to actually act on things like this, or else you... don't really like yourself that much, do you?

So, even though it is the most anxiety inducing thing ever, I have dipped my toes into "acting on it." To the extent that, recently, for the first time in my life, I've been willingly leaving jobs, friendships, and romantic relationships--if they feel like, if I told my therapist (who exists in my head, I can't afford one) about how they treat me, I can easily imagine them being like, "Wow okay so first of all, red flags all over the place!"

I've been doing this to my own detriment. I'm alone and stuck, unable to afford solo housing, or appropriate medication, or even food and other basic life necessities some of the time.

And here's the kicker.

I really, really don't want to die. In that sense, I'm not suicidal! But, I don't know how I'm supposed to keep existing like this without imploding or exploding in some way, though.

The worst part is just having no time, space, or resources to even start trying to heal. Nobody to even talk to safely... or, imo, ethically. I don't want to inflict this sadness and hopeless on some innocent bystander.

I'm sorry if you are the person reading this right now.

[a-reader-and-a-writer-for-all]

Schrodinger’s Cat

Fandom: The Suicide Squad, Rick Flag

Summary: Rick is about to leave on his next mission with Task Force X, and you have a bad feeling about it….

Word Count: 1628

TW: Canon Character Death

You hated that he was leaving again. You knew he didn’t have a choice, but that only made you feel worse about the situation. Both of you had thought things would be different once you had been released from Belle Reve, once you were out from under Waller’s thumb. But you both should have known better. Waller may no longer have access to you, but that had just caused her to tighten her hold on Rick.

"I know it’s a pain and you can't always get service, but please try to call me. Or at least text me. I don’t care what time it is here." You were sprawled wildly across the bed, your head and shoulders hanging over the edge. You watched, upside down, as your boyfriend packed his bag for another mission to God knows where, for God knows how long.

"Baby, you know how it is. I can't always do that."

"I know. But every time you leave, I can't stop worrying. At least when I was on the missions with you, I knew you were alright. But now, until you call, I’m in this weird limbo of not knowing if you’re dead or alive. It's like that damn Schroeder's cat paradox."

Rick chuckled softly. "Schrodinger."

"What?"

"It's Schrodinger's cat."

"Really? Then who the hell is Schroeder?"

"He's the kid who plays piano in the Peanuts comics."

"Are you sure?

"Pretty sure, darlin'."

You thought for a second, then shrugged. "Well, whoever's cat it is, you know the thing I’m talking about. Where you don’t know if the cat is dead or alive until you open the box. You’re the cat."

“Does that make you Schrodinger?” Rick chuckled again. “And I’ll be fine. It’s just a quick in and out reconnaissance mission, nothin’ to worry about.”

“Rick, it’s not funny. And you can’t lie to me. I’ve been there, I’ve seen what can happen. Good people, highly trained people, can be taken out in an instant. All it takes is one lucky shot or one tiny mistake and it’s all over. We both know that.” Rick gently placed his hand over yours to still it, and you realized you had been unconsciously stroking the large scar above your collarbone. The one you had received on your first mission together. The one that almost ended your relationship before it ever had a chance to start.

Rick sighed. “You're right, okay. I know things can go sideways at any time. But Harley and Harkness are with me this time. You know they’ll have my back.”

“They better,” you grumbled, sitting up on the bed. While you were glad to be out of that hellhole of a prison, you really did miss your two best friends. But you knew they would do anything they could to help bring Rick back home to you, and that did make you feel a little bit better. “I didn’t realize Harley was back at Belle Reve. Who else is on the team?”

“She was picked up yesterday for a bank robbery. And it’s a bunch of new recruits. Mongal, Blackguard, Weasel, and a few others I don’t remember.”

“Wait, they’re having you bring Weasel? What help could he possibly be on an in and out retcon mission? Or Mongal for that matter. They both stick out like a sore thumb. You might as well bring Nanaue,” you scoffed, but then your face grew serious. “Rick, please don’t go. I don’t know what’s different, but I have this feeling of…. dread that I’ve never gotten before any mission, even when I used to be on them. Something about this one just doesn’t seem right. Please, call out. Just say you got sick, or you can crash your car on the way into work. Make it look like an accident. I can blow out your tire! Just…. something!”

“Darlin’, you know I can’t do that. Besides, Waller would still drag my ass in even if I was in a full body cast.”

“Then we can run away! You can just go full AWOL and we can disappear together. I still have some contacts in the Gotham underground. Ozzy told me he’d always have a job for me at the Iceberg Casino, and I used to plant sit for Ivy when she was in lock-up. Plus, she’s really good friends with Harley so I’m sure she would help us.”

“Y/N, we are not going to become fugitives and go live with criminals. You just got out of prison, are you really so eager to go back?”

“If it means being there to watch your back….in a second.” Your eyes bore into Rick’s with a fury and determination that revealed how deadly serious you were.

Rick reached down to where you were still seated on the bed and took your hands in his. “Okay, listen. I was going to talk to you about this when I got back but seeing as you need some reassurance……. I spoke to some of my buddies in Washington. They think they can pull rank and get me transferred.”

“Transferred? Where? When?”

Rick shrugged. “I told them I didn’t care where, as long as they got me far away from Waller. They should be finalizing everything in the next couple days. Which means, if all goes according to plan, this will be my last mission with Task Force X. One more, then I’m done.” He beamed enthusiastically as he stepped back and opened his arms wide, probably expecting you to jump excitedly into them. But you only stared back at him in horror.

“Take it back! Don’t say that, you never said that!”

Rick’s face fell. “What? I thought you’d be ecstatic. We can get out without having to become fugitives. We can start our life together, do all the things we planned.”

You placed your hands over your ears and shook your head violently. “Stop it, Rick. I swear to God, I am serious. Stop talking now.”

“What the hell is wrong with you?” Rick asked exasperatedly.

“I have seen too many of those stupid cop movies you make us watch to know that the best way to get yourself killed is by giving the whole ‘I only have one more day ‘til retirement’ speech.”

Rick rolls his eyes, clearly annoyed. “Please tell me you aren’t serious?”

“I am dead serious. I already have a terrible feeling about this whole situation. You don’t need to make things worse by jinxing it.”

“Baby, this isn’t a movie. Jinxes, curses, that’s not how the world works.”

You stared at him in astonishment. “Excuse me? Have you forgotten the world that you live in? Rick, your ex-girlfriend was possessed by a thousand-year-old sorceress, we’ve been on teams which consisted of a crocodile man, a guy who manipulates fire, and a warrior whose sword devours the souls of its victims, and, in case you’re forgetting, I have the ability to blow shit up with my mind. That is exactly how the world works.”

“Yeah, but none of that’s not the same thing.”

“It’s exactly the same thing!” you screamed in frustration. But then you let out a big sigh as you tried to regain some of your composure. “Look, I don’t want to fight, especially not right before you leave. Don’t get me wrong, I am thrilled to know this may all be over soon but I’m just stressed enough as it is about this mission. Stupid or not, you telling me about this probably being your last one just adds another reason I don’t feel good about the whole situation.”

Rick came over and he leaned down to kiss you softly. “I know. And I wish I could say somethin’ or do somethin’ that could make this all better. But I just don’t know what that is.”

Standing, you pulled him into a tight hug, his strong arms wrapped instantly around your smaller frame. You could hear his heart beating strongly as your head rested directly above it. You whispered, “Just come back, please. Just come back to me.”

You could feel his response as it rumbled through his chest. “Always, darlin’.”

The phone rang at 4:37 in the morning, waking you from your restless dreams involving cats, boxes, pianos, and Weasel. It had been three days since you had heard from Rick and his last call had done little to ease your fears. Whenever he was on a mission, he would always try to keep things vague and light, so as not to worry you. But this time, his voice had sounded edgy and anxious. Things must have gone sideways, and he had possibly lost a lot of people. You just hoped Harley and Boomer were okay, but you knew Rick wouldn’t tell you until he got home even if anything had happened to them. The fact he couldn’t, or wouldn’t, tell you more just added to your anxiety.

You scrambled to grab the phone before it stopped ringing, not even glancing at the caller id since Rick was the only one with this number. Finally answering, you mumbled with a sleepy yet relieved chuckle, "It’s about time you called me. I was getting pretty worried, babe."

There was silence on the other end of the phone for a moment. Then a familiar voice spoke up, "Y/N?"

You jolted up in bed as your heart dropped in your chest and your blood ran cold. "Ha-Harley…?"

"He asked me to call you if anything happened... I'm so sorry...."

The phone slipped from your hand as a howl tore from your lips. You could still hear Harley’s voice coming faintly from the phone now lying on the floor, but you don’t need to hear any more. You already knew.

The box had been opened.

[mouthfullofpeas]

hi! intro post!

My name is Jeordie! I'm 17 years old and I use they/he pronouns! I'm a cringe enthusiast with Many Many interests, some of which are listed here :3

Smiling Friends, Monsters. Inc, Moral Orel, AWOG, Lego Movie, Lego Batman Movie, Teen Titans Go, The Suicide Squad, SNL, horror movies, the disturbing movie iceberg, gore sfx content, Bojack Horseman, the Muppets, David Bowie, the Backrooms, the Russian Sleep Experiment, Re-Animator, Mean Girls (the original) the Try Guys, DHMIS, The Happiness of the Katakuris, Scott Pilgrim vs The World, the Cats Movie, Schafrillas Productions

Fun facts about me:

I'm a furry!

I have BPD and/or bipolar disorder

I am hyperromantic :3

I hate *most* musicals and also I'm a former theater kid! How about that

i live in michigan!

DNI:

basic dni

anti-selfship

proship/comship

haters in general if ur plagued by negativity i dont want u in my space

personality disorder anti (NPD, HPD, BPD, etc)

unfunny ! /hj

hardcore anime fans im sorry im just trying to distance myself from the community nothing wrong with yall

zionists

ty for reading <3 !

[pinkiepiebones]

Man I'm thinking about a proper DC movie world Zsasz again. I'm of two minds-

The James Gunn Zsasz: Lean into the corporate yuppie thing from his past. Weird energy, like Rob Lowe's character on Parks and Rec or Jake Gylenhaal in Nightcrawler. Excited to be here- "here" being probably another Suicide Squad. Collared long sleeve shirt, beige slacks, short blonde hair, penny loafers (but the pennies are razor blades, which you can only really notice if you pause the movie). Always wears black gloves and very obvious blue contacts. Everyone writes him off as some sort of failed diversity hire or an intern or just generally shits on him being on the team ("File says he scars himself for every kill- you see any scars on this water cooler jockey?" "I thought I saw one on his jaw, but he mighta cut himself shaving"). Well, everyone but Harley. The third act fight comes up, the "heroes" are getting their asses kicked, Waller says "it's time to let the dog off the leash." A switch is flipped, and a hitherto unseen collar device on Zsasz's neck is switched off. He takes out his contacts and puts them in a dorky little case and asks Harley to hold it for him. His eyes are reversed, black sclera and white pupils, classic Breyfogle style. The villains laugh about them sending in a pencil pusher and suddenly one of them has a pencil in their eye- thrown by Zsasz! He gives a really 90s corporate synergy speech as he sheds his shirt, revealing dozens upon dozens of carefully carved scars. And the collar remains so we have the nice Arkham games callback. He's lithe, he's crafty, he's a human slaughterhouse. After he's effectively decimated the enemy forces he says something very officey and chipper like "well, I think I got my steps in for the day" and cheerfully retrieves his contacts case from Harley, and it's got a little switchblade attached to it, which he uses to cut fresh tally marks. The "heroes" aside from Harley all nervously apologise for making fun of Zsasz and he happily tells them, blood all over his face, "No problemo, I already know where your tally marks will go!"

The Matt Reeves Zsasz: Were we supposed to be getting a Penguin HBO series about how he rebuilds the Iceberg? Perfect place to introduce Zsasz- first in background conversation or the expertly placed newspaper talking up Gotham's Golden Son and his fall from grace. Penultimate episode has the infamous poker game and follows the weeping penniless Zsasz out to the Gotham Bridge. We see the suicide attempt, the mugging, and the murder, all from a streetlight camera perhaps, not following the action but a passive, silent witness. We come down for the foundational moment of the first scar though, and see the shadows fall from his red eyes as Victor dies and Zsasz is born. The final episode has a paralelel storyline angle of Penguin finally establishing himself as a force to be reckoned with and Zsasz as an emerging threat to the city of Gotham. All leads into The Batman 2. I want to see Pattinson's Batman fight a serious threat Zsasz so badly.

in both instances I have no idea who would play him. I'm no good at actors any more.

[king-crane]

//im not gonna do an analysis on it like i did for fear state because genuinely i think this was. disappointing. It was an entertaining read, like in the way that a movie like Suicide Squad 2016 was entertaining, but it was just. So fucking disjointed. heres some highlights:

-Harley is the protagonist of this story. Like literally she’s the only sane one and even then she fucked up by not just shooting Joker completely. Like, she says the kill shot needs to be Batman? She’s going to rely on the seemingly infallible logic that Joker can’t escape from a death trap himself? Harley please my love you were so good in this you should have just killed Joker straight up.

-Punchline was great tbh, a good character who is ridiculously manipulative and believes herself the Joker’s equal, his partner. Only thing I don’t get is why the fuck she’s portrayed as being?? On the same level as Harley and strong enough to overpower her? And to fight NIGHTWING? She thought she could take Nightwing??? What is her background she sounds like she just fell in love with the Joker over the internet like some parasocial nerd bro help me

-I was promised a Killer Croc appearance. He makes one (1) appearance in the background of The Iceberg Lounge. He does not speak or do anything. He is. In one panel.

-This entire comic is about the dynamic between Bruce and Joker, how they’re opposites. Bruce keeps on living which must mean that Joker will eventually die right? That’s the big theme. It begins and is interspersed with the idea that every fucking time the Joker keeps going, he just kills more and more.

-Clownhunter is the fucking goat. Doesn’t even flinch when Batman shows up

-reading Fear State made me believe there was some massive thing that happened to Ivy to make her what she was, and that it happened during the Joker Wars. And apparently that was?? NOT Harley nearly being killed by Punchline? She was listening in through the plants but apparently didn’t know what was going on until she went there herself and just. Strangled a couple clowns? What????? Bro for real what?

I’m just like. Wondering what the fucking resolution is. Like am I supposed to want to buy the next Joker War thingy? Is there a second one that’s supposed to magically fix all my disappointment? God damn.

Still, I had a fun day out on town with my dad. Got my ears pierced, had lunch, checked out the comics store, walked around town.

[pixie-mask]

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Hey there, werehogs. What a beautiful way to start August off than with a Countdown review, yeah~? Seems perfect for this month! No one likes August (but they do like it better than Countdown.)

Here's the cover:

I don't think you need super karate powers to break a glass window (though it probably helps). Given the green imagery and the ring on his finger, you could probably mistake him for a Green Lantern in this image (or possibly Ben 10), but this is not the case. Also, just for anyone who doesn't know, the big-headed image is Oracle's personal avatar in comics. …I guess that's all there is to say about this cover. Despite the literal impact depicted, this cover is not all that impactful~

To recap, Karate Kid and Una have broken out of the time stream for adventures. Jason Todd, Donna Troy, Ryan Choi, and Bob the Monitor have broken out of physical space to look for Ray Palmer. Pied Piper and Trickster have broken the law and are on the run. Jimmy Olsen has broken into superheroics and testing his powers as Mr. Action. Mary Marvel has broken ties to her magical family and is looking for a mentor. And Holly Robinson and Harley Quinn have turned away a woman from a broken home at their women's shelter, which Holly finds suspicious. And if your spirits aren't broken yet, let's break into this issue~

To continue the theme, we do actually start with Karate Kid's story. He and Una are breaking into Oracle's facility to enlist her help. I don't know why they couldn't, like, call ahead. As they say, Oracle has a security fetish. Which is a weird BSDM way put it, but it's also not wrong. It's also on Starman's advice, and he's not exactly mentally sound. Using Karate Kid's super karate, they bust through the various security measures, only for Oracle to turn on a screen and express annoyance at how expensive all that equipment was. Then she attacks them with metal tentacles, as one does.

Over at the Iceberg Lounge in Gotham, the Penguin gives Pied Piper and Trickster a decent meal from his personal kitchen, and they're surprised, given how he wasn't thrilled to host them. He explains he was just putting on a show so no one would suspect him of harbouring them. He shuts the door, then says "They're all yours" to his assembled guests: the Suicide Squad. We've left Multiplex out, and instead joined Deadshot with Plastique, Bronze Tiger, and Captain Boomerang. A classic lineup! I dunno when he called them, since the previous issue showed Oracle spying on them. That's probably the writers not talking to each other again~

Bob and the Multiverse Crew leave the microverse and head into subspace for their next destination. It's basically the Distortion World from Pokémon Platinum. Since this is basically a transition, we don't dwell much on it. And despite them name-dropping Zatana, we don't cut over to her, but instead to Jimmy Olsen still practicing as Mister Action. He beats up a purse-snatcher, and the woman whose purse it was gives him a kiss. While he's been doing okay with the ground-level stuff, he figures he needs to join a team to really make a difference, and decides the Teen Titans are his speed. This begs the question of how old Jimmy Olsen actually is~

Back at the Iceberg Lounge, the Penguin is entertaining his guests when suddenly the back entrance explodes open and the fugitives escape, pursued by the Suicide Squad. There's too many bystanders for Deadshot to get a clear shot, so Bronze Tiger tries grabbing Piper as they run. This causes the electric shock to go off when Trickster pulls ahead, stunning both of them and Tiger as well. Penguin himself knocks out Plastique, so she doesn't blow up his establishment. Fair! Captain Boomerang tags Trickster with his namesake weapon, and despite being too dazed to stand, he does manage another homophobic remark while Piper carries him to safety.

We dip over to the Athenian Woman's Shelter for a bit, where Holly Robinson is still going on about that woman and her child being turned away. Harley gets her an audience with Athena to explain, and the basic gist is "our shelter is not equipped to take care of women who have children", using also some phrases like "strong female role models". I mean, I guess that's fair, but Holly remains suspicious. Athena notices, and invites her to a self-esteem course. I dunno what that has to do with her concerns, but sure. Why not~

The metal tentacles prepare to extract Una and Karate Kid from Oracle's base, but it turns out metal tentacles are no match for 31st-century super karate! Keep that in mind! He even re-creates the cover image by shattering one of her screens to get to the room behind it. She insists she really doesn't have time for them right now, mostly because she's trying to keep the personal info of every known superhero from being stolen. I don't know how or why this is happening, but it's happening! Let's blame a tie-in for this! Chances are, that'll work out to be true.

And so we close out this comic--and in fact, our entire first trade paperback--by returning to Piper and Trickster. They evade capture with Piper playing a song that renders them invisible. Trickster asks why he didn't do that sooner, and Piper shoots back that he was tired from carrying all that dead weight. That sentence is ironic foreshadowing for later! But they may have evaded the Suicide Squad, but we've got more cameos to shove in this already bloated story. As soon as their cloak drops and they start on the run again, they're confronted by the Question (Renee Montoya) and Batwoman (Kate Kane), who are significantly more competent characters.

Well, this issue's not the worst or anything. That's about the most I can say for it. I guess it's Mary's turn to not be in this issue, which has been a rarity for the series. Also, we're, what, 13 issue in now? We finished one trade, so we must be. We're a quarter of the way done with this! Think about that! We're only 25% of the way into this! Be glad this issue isn't the worst, because you will long for this sort of inoffensive codswollop as we get further along~

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It’s a new week! Did you all do anything fun and geeky over the weekend? Sound off in the comments. While you start your day, here’s some comic news and a review from around the web. ICv2 – New Record Price for a Comic – That’s an impressive chunk of change. IGN – How Hidden Nazi Symbols Were the Tip of a Toxic Iceberg at Life Is Strange Developer Deck Nine – WTF!? Kotaku – Suicide Squad…

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Batman Villain Movie Ideas, Part XXV: The Joker

And now, we come to the end. The Joker, man of a thousand backstories, Jack Napier, Arthur Fleck, whatever the man's name is. He is a cultural icon, one of the most famous villains ever created, a bright, smiling evil to contrast with Batman's dark, brooding justice. We all know the man, and all of his various forms across the years. Whether he took a dip in chemicals or is simply an anarchist using a crazy persona to get away with doing horrible things, he is and always will be a constant presence in the Batman mythos.

Origin Movie: Jack Nicholson's take offered an interesting version in the 1989 Batman. I don't think I've seen him tied in with Batman's parents' death that way in any other version. (Joaquin Phoenix's version was kind of involved but not quite). Honestly, it's a smart way to consolidate storytelling.

Sequel Movie: The Dark Knight had it right here, using the origin to set up Batman's mission and putting him against the more standard crime lords of Gotham, then cranking everything up a notch with Joker's scheming and machinations in the sequel.

Finale Movie: Honestly, I'm surprised we don't see him in this role that often. He'd work well in it. I think something like the Killing Joke's storyline would fit the bill for that one.

Supporting Villain: When he's not the central villain, he is normally at least acting in this role, showing up in Arkham or the Iceberg Lounge, acting as a supporting villain for someone like the Phantasm, or even just working together with Harley Quinn (which we have yet to truly see in a movie version outside of a couple passing moments in the first Suicide Squad).

Overall, my rankings for these are:

Sequel Movie: The Dark Knight knew what it was about.

Supporting Villain: Honestly, he works here just as an ever-present wrench waiting to be thrown into the works.

Finale Villain: Killing Joke is a beloved comic for a reason.

Origin Movie: No issues. It's just the lowest of four great options.

What do you think? Next, let's cover a few of Bruce's most notable allies.

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