I can’t stop thinking about Katya and Andrey but y’all I never really shipped them, mostly just FELT for them. I mean, this exchange???:
“Maybe if we were one person, you and I, we would be enough for the world.”
“You mean for him.”
“Is there really a difference?”
“For us? …I guess not.”
I mean…!!!
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"Was there ever really a flame?"
I think a lot about this scene because I really do think Katya loves Goncharov, but its so much more complicated than a love story tied up in a bow.
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Okay but Katya and Sofia's lines during The Ballroom Scene™ y'all. Like
"Katya, if I could, I would make you a widow and a bride in a single day." "Sofia, if I could, I would let you."
"There's no place in heaven for sinners like us, and there's no place in hell for our love."
"If I go first, I'll have cocktails waiting at 7pm sharp on the other side. Don't be late. I may not wait." "For me? You'd wait forever." "You're incorrigible, my dear." "And you love it, my darling."
"Here's to you, the diamond of his heavy crown." "Here's to you, the diamond of my heavy heart."
"That dress suits you, Sofia." "I believe it would suit you more. White was always your color."
"Death is just another dance. If I took your hand, would you follow my steps?" "No, Sofia. But I would, if you asked politely, let you follow mine."
And of course I can't possibly forget:
"Do you believe in heaven, Katya?" "I believe in you."
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Cybill Shepherd as Katya Goncharova and Talia Shire as Sofia in
Martin Scorsese's GONCHAROV (1973)
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Say what you will about Martin Scorsese and Matteo JWHJ 0715 but it was incredibly progressive of them to show not one(1) but two(2) gay kisses onscreen in Goncharov, a film that came out in the 70s. Even more impressive that nobody seemed to have anything to say about it until now, almost 50 years after it was in theatres.
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Did time mean nothing, or did time mean everything?
After rewatching the cult classic Goncharov (1973) dir. Martin Scorsese, all I could think of was the other queer cult classic from the 70s. That’s when I blacked out and my hubris took over and now this exists. (link to redbubble shop here)
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The one scene from Martin Scorsese’s Goncharov (1973) that lives in my head rent-free;
Ya'll remember when Katia is twiddling the knife between her fingers as she cuts the apple and stares at Sophia with so much tension the air actually sizzles and then she slices her finger? Sophia gets worried, but Katya says “For all of the blood on my hands, a prick on my finger will not taint the stained.” like the fucking REAL ASS QUEEN SHE IS. LIKE OMFG, THIS MOVIE WAS WAYYYY AHEAD OF ITS TIME
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when sofia called katya “kitty” 🥺 and forced her to see herself as someone soft and precious and not just as a body for the men in her life… when kat was allowed to feel young and happy for the first time, not just this sharp-edged femme fatale (which she of course also is). but somebody finally sees her as something she didn’t know she could be. ugh my heart
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So there's a Goncharov lore google doc if you're not aware
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fbcn96MKyc1Bky6c0Ffex4APtar9iNht8ytfZHPpSss/edit?usp=drivesdk
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It’s gonchorav saying “the only thing I think about in the darkness of the night is you” while he has his arms wrapped around Katya standing on their balcony looking quite literally into the darkness of the night, but they both know he’s more so speaking that to Andrey who’s miles away. But katya doesn’t gaf cause while she’s looking into the darkness of the night all she’s thinking of is Sofia. And it’s the picture perfect romantic husband and wife scene on the surface, but then the camera softly zooming into both of their eyes and they both hold such forlorn longing looks in them as they think about their secret (ish) lovers. The level of read between the line TENSION in this movie is marvelous. Marvelous.
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GONCHAROV HAS AN OFFICIAL AO3 PAGE?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
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sorry for all the gonchposting it’s just one of my fav films and i’m glad it’s being talked abt on here. the art is sooo good i love katya and sofia content especially the fans are so talented. might write them a fic tbh
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