The Mandalorian writing is SO bad this season…I’m sorry if that’s harsh but what’s going on??? It feels like I’m reading those 2012 Avengers tower fan fictions, if you know what I mean. And the dialogue! So mechanic and unnatural.
Not harsh at all, you're completely right and you should say it. It feels awful, it's somehow 90% exposition and fluff, with characters just saying words for the audience's benefit. Because god forbid we put any effort into thinking about what these characters might actually say in the situations that they're in. It feels totally flat, and any characterization that has been built up in season 1 and (kinda) season 2 just seems to have gone out the window. Now the mandoverse characters are all just mouthpieces for expository dialogue, and maybe a Star Wars Saying here and there to keep your attention. And the other 10% of the writing, which might actually hold some substance with a little effort, still feels like trite, one-size-fits-all dialogue that does nothing to deepen the characters or present any kind of stakes. The heroes say Hero Things because they're heroes, the villains say Villain Things because they're villains. I mean it leaves me wanting to bang my head against the wall because I could literally watch any marvel show or whatever and get the same shit. But that's just the thing, isn't it?
I've been noticing the marvelfication of star wars over the past few years and i resent it SO fucking deeply but I think Andor restored a glimmer of hope for me that star wars might start bringing some fresh and competent creators to the table. I'm still holding onto that hope because ultimately I adore this universe and its characters, and I just want to see them written with care and truth to who they are. I've given up on that happening with the mandoverse characters going forward. I'm starting to accept that i'm just going to have to grit my teeth and let this part of the story be told at me by jon favreau through some very expensive actors' mouths. But maybe, hopefully, going forward, we will see a few more creative and character-driven approaches to star wars. Tony Gilroy please save us
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H E L L O jfp-eyes pen (thats your new name btw)
i know its a little late but my mind keep going back to it and i also talked about a similar issue w several other people on here since and i was wondering if you can/want elaborate on what you said about this:
"like, u want potters to be desi? it’s not just the cute clothes and good food and linguistic differences u need to keep in mind. there’s so much more where it comes from, including several practices that will be considered highly objectionable by this rigidly judgemental crowd."
((i am v v interested but no pressure to answer this, i totally get if you dont want to get into this discourse))
dani—you’re gonna pull me into the desi potters discourse one way or the other, eh?
so. i’m not sure how much sense this’ll make because it’s like…half-baked thoughts but my problem with this scenario actually stems from a more macro, general trend i’m noticing in fandom behaviour. for some reason, puritan culture & veiled conservatism is coming back in the guise of progressiveness? and that’s leading to a lack of critical thinking in these spaces & randomly attributing buzzwords to things out of context bc u don’t have more than a shallow understanding of it.
which means that that comment was directed at a very specific subset of fandom that decided that idk ignoring the Bad Things & Flaws would somehow make them cease to exist. let’s only take the most ‘exotic’, fun aspects even if it’s a completely one dimensional reading & run with it. they wouldn’t be able to tell u what desi is beyond the barebones.
so, you’ll have people vehemently arguing that the potters can’t be anything but desi and white james is gross and i’m just like—why. why are u, as a non-desi person, so attached to this headcanon that you’ll ridicule real people for it? and then their attitudes as well. the incest thing, for example. there are communities in india that marry their first cousins—if i write a story tomorrow where james marries his mother’s imaginary brother’s daughter, then depending on how i HC him, that’s perfectly culturally acceptable (and desirable). if i write a story where euphemia and fleamont use corporal punishment for him, and he takes it super lightly and jokes about it, that’s also fine. (which is a direct contrast to how the western black family & sirius’ abuse is treated). there’ a community in india where the man ‘drinks’ from his mother’s breast, publicly, at his wedding to symbolise the last time he’d be her son before he becomes someone’s husband. another where a new mother can’t feed her son until her sister-in-law washes her breast thoroughly. caste is something that’s not even touched upon. it’s so complicated. but how do u think it’ll be received by most of the desi potter crowd if i actually do write any of this? will i be praised for my ~representation or called out on twitter for being a freak?
and that’s really where i get annoyed. the attitudes most of this crowd hold does not have any space for cultural subjectivity, what is ok to them has to be universally ethical. there’s no way other cultures do things their way and if they do, it’s barbaric/backward/problematic etc etc. pseudo-colonial, like i said.
(disclaimer: i want it to be made very clear i’m not demanding people nclude this stuff in their fics. i’m well aware of how escapism works, being the premier advocate for it. im just saying it won’t hurt to be mindful of these facts, that this is a whole culture that’s ridiculously diverse that doesn’t just exist for the sake of people’s headcanons)
and this isn’t even going into the cultural nuances of how desi families work. you can’t bring in american/european individualism & have james move out at 18 & write everything transactionally & do everything the way u would for a white character but only pay lip service when saying they’re brown ykno? when u say they’re a certain identity, there’s so much that comes with that. and if u don’t include any of that, then it really just makes me wonder why u want a brown james—feels like ego appeasement and falling to peer pressure half the time tbh.
another important thing for me is that so much of this crowd intersects with the ‘fandom is activism’ crowd and i just. fundamentally disagree with those people. and find their words/actions incredibly performative. by which i mean, the way they treat real people—people from the communities they’re adopting as HCs for their beloved characters. there’s this…hypocrisy, yeah? what i mentioned above, about how if i wrote some culturally different practice, i’d probably be attacked. they don’t want desi potter, they want white-lite potters that is palatable to & tailored for their own constitution but in a form that they can pass of as ‘oh look, my characters r diverse which makes me Morally Good and i can use that to shit on others’.
i think my problem is just that i don’t like it when people use the identity headcanons to portray themselves as being inherently better because they have ~equal representation. fandom is not a government institution—lateral visibility & membership is not a prerequisite to wanting to write about x and y fucking or going on a date or hugging or having a conversation. making a marauder group where each character—functionally an OC—is from a different community (often w/o considering how intersectionality works) for the sake of saying ‘oh i have a x in my HCs’ does not make u some radical leftist, yeah? and i strongly dislike people who pretend it does.
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Can't believe my energy was drained by aitsf yesterday. But! Energy full now and I've processed everything and thought bout it and I can finally tell all the stuff I like bout it! This is gonna be long :D
First off the story bro, I'm in love with the story so much! Honestly, it's hard to get my attention in full since I get distracted easily, especially by visual novel type games where I just have this urge to tab out to do something else then go back again. Barely did that for aistf.
Felt like I was watching a movie instead of playing a game, voice acting is so good! And the story! I'm never shutting up about the story, I just really really love it a lot! Went in completely blind playing this game, only thing I knew was that there's Aiba and there's Date.
One thing that grabbed my attention so much which interested me in the game from the very beginning is the goofy scenes it has. Seeing Aiba do that funky lil dance behind a skeleton did it for me, it was unexpected but in a funny way. I was like, aight this game is good! Without even knowing the ride I was in for.
And something that really surprised me was the branching of it. From the beginning I thought there was a linear type plot and I'll have to replay the whole thing to get certain stuff so I was mentally preparing myself, also the reason why I turned off skipping unseen contents so I can only skip the stuff I've seen.
It was both a pleasant surprise and a hoo boi surprise. I knew it was going to be a long game and I thought it was a typical mystery game so I wasn't expecting much bout it but boi was I wrong. And the branches are also very useful! And I love how in each branch, everything is different even though only a single action was changed so I loved that about it!
I love the way that the story is written so much! At the beginning, there's so so many questions to be answered and as I kept playing, some were answered, new questions popped up, and so many more info known but the thing here, the more I played, the more it felt like a bucket was being filled. Like, at the beginning the bucket was completely empty and it just fills slowly without exposing much of what the story actually is and I love it so much!
It reminded me of 999, played that years ago and the details are blurry but I do know I enjoyed it a lot too. The aspect of an empty bucket getting slowly filled as I played it was similar with it too and I love mystery games like that so much!
It just feels so satisfying! Once you reach the end and everything makes so much sense and how everything you've seen and played through connected in ways you overlooked at the beginning and how perfectly everything fits now that you're at the end! I love it a lot!
And the way how in aitsf, the branches aren't just a game mechanic but ties in with the parellel worlds thing and how it affects Date and the fact that only the player really knows and and how it really contributes to having the best ending! It's like, it's like a timeloop thing in the player perspective, having to go back at various somnium for a better outcome while the character experiences a parellel world type thing!
And I love how it isn't all, choose the good options for the better ending type too! There are parts where the 'bad' option is better so a better option would appear in the future and I love that bout it cuz it makes the story feel so alive! How every character isn't just a 'character' and each one has their own personalities and charms and even if they don't appear much you can easily tell what kind of person they are from the way they speak and I LOVE IT!!!
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