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I don't know who needs to hear this, but 99% of the time that ex of yours is not actually a narcissist or a sociopath simply because they sucked and you hate them. By using these words you are in fact demonizing actual mentally ill people, unlike your ex who is far more likely to just be an asshole
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Somehow I failed to consider the ableism that comes with taking a criminology class....
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sin-esthezia · 7 months
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the thing that gets me the most about ableism against pd’s is that ppl will be like “these disorders make you an ASSHOLE!!!!” and then turn around and pretend that other disorders can’t and don’t make you act shitty.
depression and anxiety can make you irritable and snappy. they can cause you to refuse to listen to people and to be distant and withdrawn. they can cause you to seem angry, bitchy, rude, uncaring, etc.
ptsd causes an array of difficulties in forming meaningful relationships. it pretty much shakes up your entire worldview and sense of self a lot of the time. ptsd can cause you to get angry often. it can cause you to yell and scream. it can cause you to withdraw from others, run away, or cut them out. it can cause general changes in demeanor and more cynical worldviews. it can make you seem grouchy, negative, explosive, impolite, difficult, needy, controlling, etc.
and yet when people with personality disorders have symptoms of that nature, suddenly we are irredeemable monsters. when it’s npd, bpd, hpd, or aspd instead of ptsd or depression and anxiety, people suddenly and magically lose the ability to be understanding.
mental illness is an explanation, not an excuse. i firmly believe that. hurting others is never justified simply because you have any disorder.
but if you can be patient with people who have depression, anxiety, ptsd, ocd, or any other more well understood mental illness, you can be patient with us.
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“Don’t let your disorder define you”
Okay but do you support the people whose disorders do define them?
Do you support people with the chronic illnesses who have had to develop whole lives around their conditions? Do you support the intellectually disabled people whose whole way of thinking is defined by their disorder? Do you support the people with personality disorders who literally have a disorder as a personality? Do you support the autism/ADHD people whose disorder you can’t separate from who they are? Do you support the DIDOSDD people who have multiple definitions of themselves because of their disorder?
Or are you just saying that because a disorder defining someone means you can’t ignore it.
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kagaminilen · 1 year
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Idk how people can constantly discourse. Trying to defend people with NPD and ASPD against someone convinced they're "abuser" disorders on FB is taking me out.
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a-sip-of-milo · 6 months
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I love people with npd so much. I’m sorry that world is so ableist. I’m sorry that you can’t be anywhere without hearing the word ‘narcissism’ or ‘npd’ used in a negative light. I’m sorry that there isn’t anywhere near enough support.
I’m so sorry that you can’t win. It must be so suffocating and aggravating, living in a world where it feels like everybody hates you. You deserve better.
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twoheadedfather · 7 months
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tiktok "leftists" when you ask them to be normal about people with cluster b or paraphilic disorders
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dollotron · 6 months
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the empath phenomena that's emerged in the past 5-10 years on the internet is borderlining on cult mentality. The term empath was originally coined in J.T. McIntosh's science fiction novel "The empath" which came out in 1956. It's about telepaths.
it very often feels like people online use faux psychology about empaths to honeytrap people. Once they've gotten people's attention they'll start talking about "narcissistic abuse", "the evil narcissist", and how people with low/no empathy are dangerous or inferior to "empaths".
It's easy to recruit people into belief structures that "benefit" them. especially if you're pandering to and preying on victims of abuse that want to feel seen and heard. The recruitees will then spread the word because they've been indoctrinated into the belief structure. This is what cults do.
This isn't a dig at people with hyper empathy. Use critical thinking when surfing the internet.
You are not superior for having more empathy than another person. Actions speak louder than words, and just because someone doesn't experience empathy doesn't mean their actions are 'bad'.
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npd culture is getting notifications like this and laughing so hard because, yes, quora digest, i am possessed by a demon because i have a mental disorder.
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cluster-c-chaos · 2 years
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also this is the last thing for now, but when I was first figuring this stuff out (pre-diagnosis), I googled "is it possible to have more than one personality disorder?" and found the answer to be "yes, but steer clear of someone who does!"
so I just wanted to say... if you have more than one personality disorder, you are still worthy of good things. you can still live a good life. you can still have strong connections to other people, and you can still learn to love yourself. having a personality disorder doesn't make you a bad person, and neither does having several personality disorders
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People with personality disorders are not evil or subhuman. In most cases they are people who faced so much ongoing trauma and neglect during their upbringing that it damaged their development to the point of permanent disability. These are traumatized people who deserve compassion, support and resources, not further dehumanization. They are victims and survivors, not perpetrators
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flashy-mf · 11 days
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When are therapists gonna understand we can be self aware? Are they really gonna die on the hill that states it’s impossible for a narcissist to know and accept what they are? I lack empathy, not basic cognitive skills. Even intellectually disabled people can know they’re intellectually disabled.
This awareness they think we’re incapable of is the type of awareness living beings have intrinsically. It’s fucking basic awareness of information and the ability to compare. This red strawberry looks just like the other red strawberry, so 4-year-old-you matches them together on your little tablet game.
Yes, I can comprehend why I would be labeled as a narcissist. I’m mentally capable of understanding how I fit the description, and I’m mentally and emotionally capable of accepting new information I learn about myself.
What I don’t understand is how the psychiatric industry can be messed up enough for a LICENSED PSYCHIATRIST to believe someone can lack an intrinsic skill that LITERALLY COMES WITH BEING CONSCIOUS like what the actual hell?!?!??!!?
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starstruckvega · 8 months
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"girls with bpd are so hot"
"adhd makes you so much hotter"
"cluster b means cluster beautiful"
New Challenge: Shut the fuck up and let neurodivergent girls and afabs exist without being fetishized actually!!!!
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deceiver-of-god · 3 months
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Ableists will think of PwNPD as abusive assholes with tons of self esteem. Bestie, I'm terribly insecure and people-pleasing. I couldn't match your stereotypes even if I tried.
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npdlove · 1 year
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Fuck the stigma around NPD.
I love narcissists.
I want narcissists to succeed in life.
I want narcissists to find happiness.
I want narcissists to have healthy and effective support systems.
I want narcissists to be able to say they have their disorder without it being demonized.
I want narcissists to take care of themselves.
Because that's what narcissists deserve.
Because narcissists are people.
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a-sip-of-milo · 3 months
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Most common responses I get when I post any sort of cluster B positivity:
An extensive trauma dump in an attempt to validate their hatred towards us.
"You sound like a narcissist"
"You're just trying to manipulate us but we won't fall for it"
"This is really invalidating to actual trauma survivors"
"This is why people don't like cluster B's"
"Part of supporting someone with a cluster B disorder is by not enabling their abusive behaviour"
"I'll only support cluster B's if they get help"
Assuming that my opinions are based on a lack of research.
A looooong response about how trauma survivors need to stick together that promptly gets deleted when they realise I myself have a cluster B disorder.
*Posts to r/fakedisordercringe*
Tries to justify the exclusion of an entire group of trauma survivors because "we need to keep ourselves safe from people like you"
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