#cockles relationship goal

[mishacolinsackles]

Okay, shall we go into details of the Cockles astrology. My wife has a degree in Astrology, she has told me the basics of Jensen and Misha's compatibility charts and seperate charts.

Jensen and Misha's chart is not their whole personality and who they are, it doesn't run their lives and is only a certain amount to understanding to a person. We know many people who have opposite compatibilities and are completely happy with their marriage / relationships.

Jensen and Misha compatibility with how they connect most is through deep interactions of their friendship, they think alike, they understand each other's problems and have deep respect for one another. Like every friendship they are glue. This is how most people are aware of their insights first, friendships can become the begining of something if desired on both sides.

They work professionally together very well, see through one another's perspective, can achieve goals, push each other and help, this increases their success.

Now for their Romance, this requires effort from both sides but isn't challenging. The close Personal Bond (friendship) these two share creates lot of insight into this, that helps the romance blossom.

Sexually it takes time, not an instant desire to rub their bodies against one another but it can build up into a hot and intense course, if followed through. This area needs allot of communication if desired to be more.

The Cockles Magnetism, sexual attraction isn't the centre of the relationship (meaning they concentrate on more than just body boom boom, obviously). It can start with a satisfaction within the area (ass 👀😜) for example joking around in a sexual manner but not taking it too seriously. This brings the question of becoming unsure why they are sexually attracted to the other person, and within time the answers can be shown, but more importantly they are expressed mentally/emotionally. (their emotional/mental attraction is more relied on than sexual). They both have high indipendance traits, spending time apart can make the heart grow fonder and create special occasions more intimate.

They are very impulsive people who like to explore, they both have an adventurous spirit and can be surprised by one another, but any unexpexted surprises can create a drift.

[ceruleancattail]

It’s always “haha Cater’s chasing after someone that is in denial” and not

“Ceru’s distrust of people and words in general prevents them from entering a romantic relationship with another person. Because accepting his advances means reaching out to another person. Trusting that other person enough to fall into them entirely, with nothing but ‘love’ as insurance.”

Love. Such an intangible, untouchable object.

Is love not solely an emotion? Humans whip themselves up into a frenzy for those emotions they feel. They describe it as a fire, burning away in the cockles of their heart. Consuming everything but those feelings.

Driven by the solely heat of this fire, those people stretch their hands boldly. Grasping whatever is it they desire. The hand of another, a tangible goal, whatever it may be.

However, once they manage to have that “thing” in their grasp, what happens to the fire?

Will it flicker out, dying into nothing more by fragments of ash, blown away with a stray breeze?

Or will it spread?

Engulfing everything with a blazing inferno?

Scorching your very soul until you end up as nothing but cinders?

A shadow of what you once were, crumbling hand in hand with the person who grabbed you with their own two hands.

The person who set themselves on fire just for you. The person who set you alight. Burning your very being you into a crisp.

Until what you once were is gone from the surface of this world.

Ceru’s been burnt once before. They don’t want to go through that again.

Their soul is already as fragile as it is.

[spnsmile]

yes (x)

[nadinekline20]

Wait, what??????

[jamiedornaniseverything]

DeanCas ► Despair (15.18)

[green-blue-heller]

Cockles is my happy place.

And theirs.

[imascar]

So here's a weird thought. We know Misha was not at Jared's wedding in Feb 2010. Given that his engagement with Gen was about 2 months, he would have, at least, known Misha at that point, even if not well. Now it could have been due to a variety of reasons for him not being there but I admit to wondering if Misha had been invited. Now, take into account that Misha was at Jensen's wedding in May 2010, only a few months after, with a front row seat. Both he and Vicki.

Obviously, I'm not privy to any personal info, and I shouldn't be, but I find it really cool that Misha and Vicki were at Jensen's wedding. I mean, at this point, they've known each other for some time and have moved beyond Jensen finding Misha awkward and have gone out for dinner, possibly dinners, but for some ppl, their wedding is such a huge event that they only invite people with whom they are closest. I don't know Jensen or Danneel, sadly, but I think it's yet another testament to the connection between all four of them for Jensen and Danneel to have invited them.

I dunno, I've just been revisiting the whole Dean-Cas, Jensen-Misha dynamic and am reminded of what Jensen said, that all relationships have to be nurtured.

It's a really interesting look into humanity, if you think about it. Some people are just drawn to others and whether the connection be familial or platonic or romantic, it has to cultivated and nurtured and cared for....much like a garden....

....and didn't Misha post something about visiting a garden recently......

[naruhearts]

Your tags give my dying trash soul life thank you so much for this I’m just going to go scream now

You’re welcome friend — my soul’s withered already, so I said why not, why not share the source of my damn suffering ESPECIALLY BECAUSE JENSEN KEPT THAT PIC OF BOTH OF THEM FOR 10 YEARS AND IT SURVIVED THE TEST OF TIME AND JENSEN WAS ABLE TO WRITE A DISGUSTINGLY SENTIMENTAL CAPTION IN ONLY 11 WORDS AND THEY MOST LIKELY WENT OUT TO REIGNITE THE FLAMES OF THEIR FIRST DATE HERE IN VAN RIGHT ON THE COINCIDENTAL HEELS OF DEAN/CAS GOING BACK TO PURGATORY WHICH I FIND HILARIOUS AND WHEN HAVE JEN/MISH EVER POSTED AN ACTUAL PHOTO OF THEM OUT IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS WITHIN A LEGIT INTIMATE DAMN CANDLELIGHT SETTING AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS TECHNICALLY NO AND JENSEN WAS FEELING SOME TYPE OF WAY SUPER STRONGLY AND COULDN’T HOLD BACK FROM GUSHING AND AGAIN YOU CAN CLEARLY OBSERVE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM IN BOTH SELFIES WHERE THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER AGED INTO A SIMMERING SWEET FINE WINE LOL BYEEEEEE

[incorrectspnforfun]

Misha: You know, don’t take this the wrong way, but I think you’ve become a lot more fun since I’ve known you. Jensen: And if I may return the compliment, I think you’ve become marginally less annoying.

[castielismyfavouriteangel]

I need someone to look at me like Misha looks at Jensen.

[cooloddball]

You said, j2 are also not ashamed to share their weird-ass stories with each other. It's not a competition, but do Jensen and Misha share the same stories with each other?

Sometimes it's hard to decipher whether some asks are meant to be wank or whether they are genuine. But let me give you the benefit of the doubt and just answer.

Jensen and Misha almost never share about hanging out outside of work.

Long before I joined this fandom and even now, there was speculation that Jensen hated Misha because there were never photos or any evidence that they were friends outside of work. To date, antis use that as their only argument against cockles. However, their arguments are moot and here's why:

Jensen and Misha hang out outside work.

For a long time, the anti-cockles brigade believed that Jensen went to Vatican with Jarpad as a romantic getaway. It gets funnier, apparently, they ditched Misha and left him with rest of the cast to tour Rome alone. The truth was revealed in a EW interview where Jensen and Misha reminisce about that tour that Dee (aww, she's wife goals) had organized for the two of them. The mass was conducted under the Michelangelo mural of Michael slaying Lucifer.

Now the strange thing about the whole thing is that years ago. I think in 2011, Jensen told the story of how he went with friends for a private mass at the Vatican. So why didn't he say it was Misha? I mean if he had gone with Jarpad, Jason or Steve or anyone else he would've said it. So did they have a private wedding or? Like why hide who he went with just to reveal it years later? Not sus at all.

When West Misha's son fell IN Jensen's pool and hit his head. Jensen and Misha dived in to save him.

That time West peed in Jensen's flower bed.

West being Dee's best friend.

When Dee said Misha and Vicki helped with the brewery.

The things they do with each other are just not not gay

I mean explain how this is dude bro behaviour to me.

Or this or this

That time Misha showed Jensen his crotch and Jensen almost swallowed his tongue. Then Misha was late for his panel.

Or that time Jensen lay down so Misha could straddle him and he got a boner. Like, is that normal behaviour among friends to you?

Or that time Misha took that topless photo of Jensen 👀

They can't tell us when they hang out because when they hang out they don't do things that just friends do.

I mean J/2 are not ashamed to say they shared underwear that one time but cockles sharing clothes became a whole spectacle.

J/2 joke all the time about how they are in love even on Magazines and the journalists know they are joking but cockles never joke about it. Like this interview with CNN about the show ending when they joked about falling in love with each other:

Remember that time Jensen told Misha he loved him on MTV?

The many times Jarpad has teased them about their relationship?

Their castmates implying that cockles is a thing.

People who visit the set saying that cockles are always so close together, moving together, sitting together while Jarpad is on his own. Hmm...wonder why.

I could spend eternity here trying to prove something that is so blatant so I'll end it here but I hope you get my point.

[theangryjikooker]

get the basics out of the way

Who are you? A Jikooker who's angry. I come off abrasive and not everyone’s cup of tea. Maybe not anyone, I’m practically unpleasant. I’m not here to be liked, but if you want to be mildly entertained or looking to have your brain jiggled around by truth bombs about human behavior because nothing makes sense and you’re almost-angry and don’t want to rock the boat of your fellow brethren, I am but your mouthpiece. Hear me roar.

Why? Because a lot of Jikookers are getting annoying as fuck with their wild overanalytical tendencies and the shamelessness in presuming Jikook are ACTUALLY dating. It's not even a joke to them, it's like a religious belief, and it's fucking weird.

Do YOU think Jikook are dating? I think they’re close. I think their brand of closeness can sometimes be unusual or interesting from an observer’s standpoint, but I’m in no position to affirm or claim they’re dating. That is breaching asshole levels of arrogance.

Not all of us are obsessed and insane. Cool, then nothing I say should offend you. If you’re removed enough to separate reality from fiction, you would be virtually incapable of getting offended.

What is your goal? To vent and let my sarcastic rainbow stardust fly free. God forbid I share my opinions on Twitter and let the Jikooker hive mind ~*cancel*~ me because I don't agree with their bullshit all the time. Staying silent in the presence of zealots is intensely crippling, per Psychology 101.

You must be homophobic. If this is your knee-jerk response to critiques that don't align with your nonsense, you don’t deserve an ounce of respect. But if you persist, then it's clear you just want to fight. I aim to please.

Are you secretly a Taekooker? For the love of all things miserably holy, shut up. Just because I don't agree with every insane analysis that people shit out, it doesn't mean I'm a Taekook mole. Who even has that kind of energy and time?! I like them enough, but Jikook has the dynamic that warms the cockles of my dead heart. Ya happy?

(Some) Taekookers are just as toxic, why don’t you vent about them? Only if I have a reason to? I’m not as entrenched in their community as I am with Jikook, so I’m not going to be exposed as much to their content unless I unwillingly come across them. If I have to bitch about something a Taekooker said, I guarantee you that I didn’t seek them out on purpose, and I’m probably going to draw parallels to an equally absurd thing a Jikooker said. Both sides have toxic shippers from hell, but I’m not about to invite myself into the opposing wolves’ den for shits and giggles. I’m pissed off, not dumb.

Why do you have it out for (toxic) Jikookers? BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS. Or should be. Evidently, I have high expectations for humanity, but this has unfortunately been my undoing.

You’re very negative/your blog is negative. Toxic shippers are my villain origin story.

You’re a coward, let us know who you are. Wah wah wah, okay jikookluvr4ever (if this is an actual username, I’m sorry). As if the Internet isn’t a vortex of anonymity. Watch me roll my eyes straight out of my head if you missed the obvious sign of how much I do not care.

Are there any Jikookers you DO like? Yeah, but I won’t drag them into my bitch-a-thon without their consent. Even if I have nice things to say about them, my posts are inherently not going to be because I’m sick of being nice about Jikookers who are permanently armed with torches and pitchforks. Happy, positive blogs should stay happy.

What are your credentials? I have a friend of a friend who’s a native Korean and can testify on my behalf that everything I say has merit because they’re Korean and represent the entire Korean population with their interpretations of their language, cultural nuances, and politics, and they agree with me. It’s so convenient, I know, but trust me because they’re gay too. If that doesn’t satisfy you, I’ve also been married for over a decade and know SO MUCH about relationships because I’ve been married for over a decade and can vouch for every other couple’s relationship in the world because I’m MARRIED and have all the experience in the world, and wouldn’t you know it, my partner and I relate so much to Jikook in the early stages of our relationship, so I can tell you, FACTUALLY, that they are super duper mega real. For fuck’s sake.

[hologramcowboy]

I am interested to know your opinion on shippers obsession with JA. Both J2 and cockles/destiel shippers go to great lengths to prove Jensen is either with JP or Misha. Its like he is a prize and whoever has him is the winner. JA is absolutely adorable I know but why is him being with either of these men romantically important to these people.

Anon, as promised I took my time answering this and gave it my full attention, this is probably going to seem like the most judgmental post in the history of ever and possibly the longest but here goes:

When it comes to shipping, I've stated before that I love seeing people engage their creativity, fall in love with a show and then with creative license create something new that brings them joy. That's so awesome to see. But shipping has a dark side or, rather, a small percentage of people who are set on ruining the fandom experience for all.

Let me start by saying that Your question would be better posed to a shipper that would be open enough to discuss with you. But since you asked me, in particular, it probably was for a reason so here's my perspective. As always, please ignore whatever doesn't resonate and follow your inner guidance.

From a psychological point of view, no one becomes over invested in anything without projecting a personal issue unto that situation/person. I think the hateful shippers (let's remember there are also normal people in this group not just cray ones) see themselves in the people they ship so, for them, their favorite star getting Jensen is like them getting Jensen. It's a projection of an inner frustration. People devalue themselves so they don't see themselves as valuable enough to be in a great relationship, which is why they chose someone to stan who embodies what they want to be and who can have what they think they cannot have.

Psychologically speaking, taking sexual identities that don't belong to Jensen and trying to force them unto him is damaging. It would be damaging to any human let alone someone who is outside of these fandom groups and can't understand everything about them. But people never put themselves in Jensen's shoes. It's one thing to build a story inspired by a series and love it so much you share it with the actor and another to confuse the real-life actor with the character you created. But I do get that these people need to see themselves in Jensen and Misha/ Jensen and Jared/ etc., they need to be recognized, they need to win. That's human and natural but what I will never get is WHY they bully Jensen, make up lies about him and objectify him when they know this hurts him. Even the people who think Jared and Jensen are in a relationship, like that's cool as long as they don't harm anyone with it, it's their prerogative but when they assault others who believe differently or attack the actors then it becomes a toxic, toxic thing.

I should share an important aspect from my perspective, Actors use sexuality a lot in their scenes, they use it to create chemistry. So often, these rumors happen because people are ignorant about an Actor's toolbox and how sexuality is included in mostly everything. Why? Because it is primal. For this reason, there are exercises aimed at creating chemistry and when script analysis is done it's always best to give special attention and look for the main chemistry/climax points of any story, that's the ultimate goal after all. This chemistry might be sexual or otherwise, but it is the fuel of the story and it is what captivates the audience. Aside from this, the whole point of a tv show is to bring to life a plot with chemistry so everything is set up to support and feature the through line of a story. In Supernatural's case, it's the love between the two brothers, that's the core of Supernatural and so the whole show was dependent on the chemistry between the two leads, which meant they had to find to super attractive men who also vibed believably that they could share a strong bond despite being basically in competition as Actors.

All of this not considering the intimacy the camera creates from a cinematic point of view. So, it's funny to me when people think this one or that one are dating just because they have chemistry because any actor that is trained can create chemistry with anyone within minutes. That being said, people get discarded all the time during audition due to said chemistry, mostly not because they suck at creating it but because execs/directors/ etc are looking for a certain zing which you either have naturally or you learn to create masterfully. Sometimes it can even be created from the outside in by manipulating what the audience sees and how they see it through masterful direction, styling, context creation, etc.

Another point to consider is that someone who is highly desirable (think leading man, leading men and women are usually the men and women most want to sleep with) will magnetize others regardless of circumstances and create chemistry on a subconscious level. People automatically assume and start rumors but it's to deflect the fact that they are attracted and magnetized to said individual and perhaps lack the maturity or awareness to handle it in healthy ways. Think of any sex symbol, people all described them differently based on how lude or intelligent the person doing the describing was but they all had one thing in common: Blind Desire. Unfortunately, when blind desire hits people and they do not have the tools to process it some can get pretty evil. Look at Elta, she's shamelessly built her whole identity around sleeping with Jensen and gives zero f**** about the damage to his image she's done time and time again. So, his own wife behaves like an obsessed fan would. It's sad and heartbreaking. But this often happens when people have magnetism, most don't know how to process it, so you get these really weird experiences that make you want to move to a different planet and directly affect your self-esteem because when people are obsessed with you, you're not going to blame them, you're going to blame yourself and feel like there's something wrong within you. Whether people admit to it or not, what they do does have an impact on the Actors not just on their own mental balance.

So, the point is, shipping in and of itself isn't bad, it's only the percentage of people dead set on hatred and malice that choose practices that harm the actors and other fans that sucks big time.

Jensen is innocent in all of this and besides doing his job as an Actor, he has done nothing to encourage this type of behavior and it does not reflect his values, beliefs and choices, the only thing it reflects is the nature of the people who are being vile.

Again, I could be completely off on this, this is just my impression so please find a shipper that can openly and kindly speak to you and explain their valuable perspective because I am sure they have so much more to share and explain.

[theyarebothgunshot]

Having some feelings this morning bc I'm texting with my bestie who I have a cockles-esque friendship with and haven't seen much bc of covid and just... They are such friendship/relationship goals?? They just seem so comfortable with each other and idk, it just makes me happy to know that other people have relationships like that.

Also, what eventually tipped me into "hm, I think this may be romantic" is that they are so cat and mouse/coy about it outside of jokes at cons which can feel kind of performative? Also that gif set where Jensen looks absolutely besotted at JIB9(?) hits me like a truck. But yeah without those I'd absolutely read it as close friendship bc of how much they are like me and my own friends. (Tho recently I discovered I have a definition of friendship that is wildly out of the norm and just... None of my friends told me until recently 🥲) - 🍕

I am so sorry that every ask I send is rambly nonsense...

i totally agree that whatever they have, it's #goals. i personally think there is plenty that can be seen as romantic/more than platonic when it comes to those two, but i guess it really does depend on your own experiences and view on friendships.

[jamiedornaniseverything]

[livebloggingmydescentintomadness]

I have never liked rpf in my entire life. And yet... I don't know if I /ship/ Cockles so much as accept it as the truth. Like... They're just so. SO intimate. And Misha and Vicki are openly poly, so I can definitely see it as a thing all four of them know about and approve of, there's no infidelity because they're all on board. (Honestly they're relationship goals. All of them.)

that’s such a good way of saying it, because yeah, you don’t have to ship it or be obsessed with it to just be like, yeah that’s a real thing. they’re poly and they’re happy so good for them, i’m glad to see love like that in the world.