I just gotta ask!! Why do you think the reasons Lucifer's relationship with Lilith nosedived? How would YOU handle that aspect of the show were you involved in the show? Do you think Lilith is possessed by eve? Do you think he should/would get back with Lilith or try and move on, either just with Charlie or just being friends with her like divorced parents on good terms?
Oooo! Look at this, what a question! And I am happy to answer!
As for what I think the CANON reason for their relationship going sideways, honestly I have absolutely no idea. However, here’s how I would go about writing that (and it’s similar to how I touch on their relationship in my fic What Time Is It. It’s not centred around their relationship, just Luci, but they do have a small arc and I talk about their history)
Anyways. EHHEHEM!
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To be honest, I think it would be extremely interesting to write a narrative where Luicfer became an uber depressed shut in, and Lilith didn’t know how to deal with it so she left. It would make a narrative of good character complexity that wouldn’t villainize either part, and would be pretty accurate to how poor mental can have a negative impact on relationships irl too. On one hand, Lucifer is hurting and needs support, but on the other hand they have a daughter and Lilith shouldn’t be forced to take care of him if it’s not what she signed up for.
I also like the idea of her just… not being able to fully grasp how much losing his home hurt him. The place she got cast out of was beautiful, sure, but the only other person was an asshole to her. Lucifer grew up w/ a family and people he cared about and wanted to do right by. She never understood how much that hurt, and this was never able to sympathize with him. Part of her views him as weak and sensitive, part of ehr feels BAD for thinking that because he’s her husband. In the end, however, she thought it would be best to take Charlie and leave because she didn’t want their daughter to see Luci so low.
Alternatively, Lucifer was so deep in his depression that he inadvertently ended up neglecting his duties as both a father AND a ruler, and pushing them on her. He loves his wife and child, but he spends most his time in his office. When he WAS near Lilith, he was clingy and desperate, and overly sensitive about everything because he was afraid that SHE was going to push him away too. Creating a sort of self-fulfilled prophecy for himself. However none of that is REALLY his fault because he grew up in a world where he was just supposed to be happy and perfect, where there was no real depression that anyone got help with, and the w as cats to a place where therapy was never really an option.
Ofc it didn’t start off that way, but as the millennia went by things got worse and worse until Lilith left, and Lucifer completely shut himself off from Hell, thinking his family (and any potential friends he MAY have made) were better off w/o him because he always managed to fuck things up.
Personally I think that’s one of the more compelling approaches the story could take. It just makes both of them feel more human, make u able to sympathize with them, and doesn’t completely villainize either of them. It’s just a messy, complicated situation that neither knew how to handle. But they both still love each other deeply. If they DID choose to go this route in the show, I think they COULD move forward if they just got better communication, and found someone to help them navigate the complexities of the relationship. Lilith would have to learn to be more understanding w/ Luci during his bad days, and Lucifer would have to work on himself to get better, and help take off some of the workload.
(As for what Lilith’s doing in heaven,.. honestly no real clue. There’s too much info we don’t know for me to make a guess that isn’t just COMPLETELY fanon. I kind of know how it would work into the above topic if I took some big leaps, but I don’t wanna get TOO outlandish w/ this post. So we’ll just leave that alone 😅)
Anyways, THANK YOU for this ask! It was so fun to write and speculate and PLEASE let me know what you think ;)
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Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Spies Are Forever - Talkfine/Tin Can Brothers
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Owen Carvour/Agent Curt Mega
Characters: Agent Curt Mega, Owen Carvour, Cynthia Houston
Additional Tags: Multiple Orgasms, Plot What Plot/Porn Without Plot, I wrote sober and edited high. there are probably errors, Curtwen, Blow Jobs, Anal Fingering, Anal Sex, Owen "watch me" Carvour, Curt "competency kink" mega
Summary:
Curt and Owen await new orders. Curt's anxious so Owen finds a way to distract him.
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i'm back w my singapore dump
the coach cafe (donuts cost like 12 USD 😮💨)
yall know where my money went lmao
this yuji plushie at the counter of a coffee shop in haji lane 🥹🩷
our hotel's lobby (giving crazy rich asians)
my bag for the eras tour (i went on march 4, which is the third night) and yes, jjingu-king is a representation of reputation era (to match my fit hehe) and yes i bought a pc of onew to sing to for enchanted (please don't have somebody waiting onew on you) and ofc, satosugu nendos for my tears ricochet 🥹🙏🏻
rode battlestar galactica at the universal studios...we chose cylon over humans and lemme just say if i was a cat, that ride took 2 of my 9 lives
hagrid and fang at harry potter's forbidden forest 🥹
i drew this turtle w my cat's name at the art and science museum at marina bay sands
bought a teolagi trading card pack, unboxed it at spago cafe and got mongryeong instead of baekhyun 😤
bought the colored edition of vol. 5 bc it has baji in the cover (and it was the only copy left so) and a susuwatari pin
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TW:: A LONG ASS RANT WITH MISSPELLED WORDS!
God Hollybis still making me extremely uncomfortable and it's been what.. 4 days already?
The fact she was all like “hEs My MaN@” about him and threatened to kill me over Shroomy OUT OF ALL THE CHARACTERS YOU COUKD DO THIS OVER
Like bro..
THERE'S A WHOLE DAMN PILE OF CHARACTERS TO CHOOSE FROM IN SMG4 YET SHE CHOOSEA TO DO THISSANS FANGIRL DEVIANTART SHIT WITH THE CHARACTER I KIN SO MUCH AND FEEL A HUGE DEEP PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH OUT OF THE WHOLE CAST..
WHO TF DOES THAT??
W H O TF JUST DOES THAT??
I AM WAKING UP SHAKING AND SAD AF REMEMBERING THIS FREAKING HAPPENED I KID YOU NOT..
LIKE..
LOOK AT THIS ADORABLE CUTIE PATOOTI BOY SCOUT HE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS “OH I HATE YOU- HERE'S A KNIFE CAUSE YOU'RE STEALING MY MAN-” BULLSHIT OMFG.. WHY TF DID HOLLY DECIDE TO CHOOSE THIS CHARACTER AND ACT LIKE A SHITTY BITCH OVER THIS CHARACTER SPECIFICALLY?? THERE HAS TO BE A REASON DUDE…… THIS FEELS SO FAKE TO ME., 😭😭
THE FACT DRAMA ON YOUTUBE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THIS CHARACTER TOO I HATE EVERYTHING..
DRAMA OVER T H IS CHARACTER
AND OHMYGOD THE FACT ONE OF HOLLY’S FRIENDS WITH A CRINGE ASS GACHA PFP CAME IN MY REPLIES, SAYING TO MY FACE, “HOLLY IS HAPPY WITH HER BOYFRIEND! TO ME SHE'S NOT A FANGIRL! 😀”
HER B O Y F R I E N D??
HER FREAKING B O Y F R I E ND??
KILLIBG MYSELF..!?!???
THIS DUMBASS GACHA KID IS SAYING THIS SHIT TO MY FACE AS IF THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE I LOVE HIM, I AM OBSESSED AF WITH HIM, AND I'M ATTACHED TO HIM I REALLY HATE THESE STUPID GACHA KIDS SO MUCH OHMYFRAKING GOD..
LIKE OK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SIMP FOR CHARACTERS BUT CALLING hIM SOME RANDOM ASS TOXIC PERSON ON YOUTUBE’S BOYFRIEND MAKES ME FEEL EXTREMELY SICK TO MY STOMACH AND REALLY REALLY ILL.. AGAIN THIS IS HAPPENING WITH SHROOMY OUT OF EVERY FRICKIN CHARACTER IN SMG4 TOO… THE GACHA KIDS CHOSE THIS CHARACTER OUT OF EVERY FRICKIN CHARACTER I HATE EVERYTHING...,
LIKE I FEEL LIKE CRYING EVERYTIME I THINK ABOUT THE FACT HER FRIEBNDS GENUINELY THINKING THAT SHROOMY IS HER BOYFRIEND I CAN'T DOTHUS.,,, ICSNTFREAKJNFDOTHIS..,
IT MAKES ME FEEL REALLY SORE… LIKE THATSNOT YOUR BOYFRIEND THAT'S MY KIN???? S T O P…,, STOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOODTOP.,,
LIKE THIS IS LITERALLY ME WTF? WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF?? 1!1!!1 YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDINF AND OUT OF EVERY SMG4 CHARACTER FOR THE LOVE OF HECKING GOD. DUDE WHAT???
AND SEEING HOLLY HAVE A WHOLW PLAYLIST DEDICATED TO HER BITCH ASS GACHA OC AND SHROOMY MAKES ME WANNQ ACTUALLY VOMIT.. IHWTE THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE..,, STOP SHIPPING YOUR UGLY ASS OC WITH ME!?!?!?!?!?? YOU'RE PROBABLY A KID BUT STILL OMFG KINDLY SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR STUPID ASS OC BEING SHIPPED WITH ME..
WHY TF DOES THIA DEVIANTART SHIT HAPPEN WITH ALL MY FAVORITE FRIFKIN CHARACTERA?? FIRST THERE'S RODNEY, THEN THERE'S HERMEY, AND NOW IT'S FRICKIN SHROOMY WHAT ArE THE FRWAKIN ODDS?? ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS ON PURPOSE??
IT GENUINELY FEELS LIKE HOLLT AND ALL THE OTHER DEVIANTART KIDS WERE CREATED IN A LAB JUST TO MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE SPECIFICALLY..
THIS DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN
THIS SHIT DOESN'T JUST FREAKING HAPPEN WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
IS THIS HAPPENING FREQUENTLY CAUSE THE CHARACTERS ARE CONSIDERED CRINGE? 😭😭
AND DEVIANTART IS CONSIDERED THE CRINGE SITE?
THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW GOD I HQTE EVERYTHINGhehegegeheeexxxvvevevevevveveveveg
OUTOFEVERY FREWKING CHWEWCTER..,,,,,
ALSO HOLLY IS A RUDE ASS INSTAGRAM USER SOUNDING BITCH AS WELL.., CAUSE DUDE SAID “WTF 🤣” IN ONE OF MY CRUSH EXPOSURE POSTS..
I NEED HOLLY GONE /SRS
Oh AND I CAN'T FORGET THE FACT I CANNOT EVEN LISTEN TO MY FAVORITE SONG, MARIO PARTY 2: WESTERN LAND, WITHOUT THINKING OF HOLLY’S “NO SOTP- OH MY GOD I AM GONNA CUT YOU-” BITCH ASS TODDLER PERSONALITY AND THIS STUPID HOLLY DRAMA. HOLLY RUINED MY FAVORITE MARIO SONG FOR ME OMFG..,, I NEED THIS JACKASS G O N E. OUT OF MY LIFE. BITCH LITERALLY SPAWNED FROM DEVIANTART. THE HOME OF OVERLOOKED CHARACTERS AND BABIES.
PARDON THE LONG ASS RANT I'M JUST NOT IN THE BEST MOOD AT ALL RN.,,, I AM ANXIOUS AF, AND EXTREMELY FURIOUS.
Holly and her friends probably don't give a shit I feel like this as well.. THIS RUIJED MY MENTAL HEALTH SO BAD /SRS
God even the name 🤪Holly🤪 makes me wanna grab a shotgun and shoot a mannequin I'm being so fr..
Ok like I'd get it if Holly only liked Anti Shroomy ig.. People usually act this way to the bad boys, but bro it's probably Shroomy in general... The most unexpected character I'd not expect anyone to simp for like this..
But ig it kinda makes sense cause it's brainless Gacha kids..?? But still THERE WAS WHOLE DRAMA OVER THIS CHARACTER I KID YOU TF NOT.. IT MAKES ME FEEL SO SICK AND LIKE CRYING. I THINK I'VE CRIED SEVERAL TIMES THINKING OF THIS BUT IDK
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