#end queer discourse

[oro-junestar]

By cutting out the TQ+, you also cut out:

-Intersex people

-Two-spirit gays and other culturally connected gays

-Gender nonconforming people

-Those who are questioning their sexuality

-Gays, lesbians, and bi's who are supportive of trans people

-Millions of kind, loving, supportive humans who have gone through indescribable, traumatic abuse and wish to build a safe, welcoming community

Why are you so eager to exclude and belittle people? Why do you tell them they 'don't know what real struggle looks like' when their healthcare, their future, and their lives are under attack? Do you truly value 'love', or do you just want to swat away as many people as possible? Why do you continue to hide under a rock and dig yourself deeper into festering hatred, when you can simply come out and support people who can help you?

Wouldn't it be easier to unite with our trans and nonbinary friends to help defeat the growing threat of genuine fascism in our country? Those conservative Christian nationalists and white supremacists who tell you you're "one of the good ones" would gladly turn around and shoot you in a heartbeat, because when they say they're fighting the 'woke gender ideology', they'll mutter in the same breath that you gays are 'degenerates', 'sodomites', and 'animals'. Why would you side with the villains, who see you the same way they see us?

We cannot let oppression continue in any form. We will all be on the winning side of history as we step closer to ending the cycle of hatred and bullying. Open your hearts and minds and you'll find that the everyone around you is just as human as you, and are more similar to you than you'd think. Trans people are people, just like you, and we need your help and support just as much as you need ours.

Isn't it neat how people who are supportive of all LGBTQ+ identities are also kinder, more loving, more empathetic, and more caring towards their friends and loved ones? Just something to think about.

Love wins. Trans rights are human rights.

[bookwyrminspiration]

pisses me off when homophobes are like "I think it's wrong, but I believe in loving the sinner!! <3" or whatever. great. you're going to be patronizingly/passively homophobic instead of overtly violently homophobic. still homophobic and I still want nothing to do with you or your "love"

[steakout-05]

i might get some hate for this depending on where this post goes but i think lesboys are so valid and the discourse about them is so ridiculous. like you guys shouldn't have to deal with all that and it frustrates me that people throw hissy fits over an identity that literally does not affect them at all.

"but men cant be lesbians-" wrong. butch lesbians and trans men have a really closely connected history with each other that practically intersects and you should really do some research on that before you make blanket statements, not to mention that gender and sexuality is weird and wobbly and fluid and a very personal experience. it means a different thing to each person. being a man can be something completely different and saying stuff like this ignores people like demiboys, demigirls, genderfluid and genderflux people etc. these people will really preach "demolish the gender binary!! love is love!!" until someone's relationship with gender and sexuality is a little too freaky for them to handle and be challenged by lmaoo

"ohhh but what about the cishet men who say they're lesbians to prey on women-" YEAH WHAT ABOUT THEM????? THIS AIN'T ABOUT THEM BRO!!!!! this argument also REEKS of terfy "trans women are just predatory men!!!111!!1" rhetoric and it grosses me out. yeah some men are gross and do try to pull this but that does not negate someone's entire identity completely just because of a few bad actors, you know that right? actual black and white behaviour.

queer discourse is silly and i don't know why it's a thing. just let people exist. it isn't that hard. we have worse things to worry about than whether someone calls themselves a lesboy or not. i think we need to unplug our ears and yank our heads out of the sand and remember that the queer community is what it is because of our unique and amazing diversity. arguing over labels like school children isn't gonna help that. damn.

[unsaltedtoast]

the absurd amount of ppl on tiktok who are participating in the whole 'whats the definition of lesbian' and 'are lesboys valid' discourse who are so anti-discussion that they comment 'cringe' when you tell them to read actual lesbian history is so funny like ??

[xxc0mp4ctd1scxx]

I wish that who uses only "she/her" or "he/him" referring to Mizu kinda get the drip that Mizu isn't neither a man nor a woman.

That whoever is using only one of these pronouns is actually seeing that Mizu is kinda beyond gender shit, and any other category.

So when using those are all in a genderqueer/genderfuck way. When calling them girlfriend or man or bf is in an ironic way.

I really wish I'm not seeing people thinking Mizu is a woman just bc they are AFAB or bc "this trope is ant-women" terf's shit. Cuz I guarantee that Mulan (1998) and Blue Eye Samurai (2023) aren't being feminist in a simple "We Can Do It, too" way, but rather "See, gender roles are stupid and fuck you if you think that genderqueer people don't exist and people are only MAN or WOMAN."

Man, I really hate when people look at a genderqueer story and think only in binary. Adult Mizu could have been a woman if they really were one, cuz the point of they being perseved as a boy was only to be more difficult to find them as a kid, when their mom couldn't protect them with her hands or power, cuz she had none.

I think that when they were in the wife role, they weren't really performing it as a woman, but more like a duty commonly attributed to wife (more like my father being the cook in the house and a really good caretaker who is really considering and cute, and also being the dad figure, when my mom is in the finances business of the house and isn't the best caretaker of all times...) and for they mom respect and consideration, cuz they loved her and wanted to show their love, retributing by marry that guy.

But they were rejected by their mom and their husband, when being their own singular self. When showing they weren't the wife, neither the woman people thought they should be.

Yes, they suit a masc appearance and mannerisms, but it seem dehonest to call them a man. They really don't perform a man image.

Just like non binary transmasc or butches... We aren't really men just bc we are mascs. And we aren't really, by the book, women, solely by the fact we are AFAB.

Why? Cuz it is just like that. Gender isn't the binary we were thought and I wish everyone a really good search and thinking on genderqueer thesis and documents, already documented discussions and a read on "Butch Blues", a watch on "Tomboy", etc.

[noob-handler]

The kink at pride discourse is still around and rancid in 2024

Y'ALL LITERALLY SOUND LIKE CONSERVATIVES SHUT THE ACTUAL FUCK UP!!!! And all of this was under a video of men in speedos

Anyways, kinksters built pride parades and you puritans can die mad about it. if you don't like it, just stay home and go back to headcanoning straight celebrities as gay. i am so ashamed of my generation

[falling-drops-of-ichor]

Alright I don't make this off-topic post lightly but I've found out the ace/aro-phobia is in a resurgence and I want to make myself clear to avoid any unsavory people entering my space.

Aro and ace are valid identities, on their own. End of story. You don't have to also be gay for being ace to be queer. Aro is queer. Ace is queer. I hope that clears things up.

Mundane post over, expect some content tomorrow! Er, later today, technically.

[homoqueerjewhobbit]

The tumblr queer community discourse is like the physics when you get down to the subatomic level and everything just goes wonky and stops making sense and none of the normal rules apply anymore.

[astrobei]

sorry to the “the party would be homophobic bc realism” truthers out there but it could simply not be me

[oro-junestar]

motherfuckers are all 'i support you!' until the lesbians, the gays, the bi's, the transes, the queers, the questioning folk, the intersex, the aroace, the pans, the two-spirit, and all the + show up

people can be gay and queer in all different ways. it doesn't matter what the haters think, they are just as valid and welcome in our community as any other.

a lesbian dates a trans woman, they are both lesbians. a bi guy dates a woman, he is still bi. an enby identifies as a xenogender or autigender, their gender is valid. a lesbian goes by he/they pronouns, they are still a lesbian.

bi people and pan people can coexist. trans people and crossdressers can coexist. butch and fem lesbians can coexist. cis and trans people can coexist. everyone can coexist.

and we can all be happy together.

that's all i want. i'm sick of queer discourse and all kinds of -phobias. i just want us all to live, to fight against our oppressors, and to love eachother and look out for our amazing community. let's all touch grass and be friends.

[emdotcom]

Idk why the fucken... Divide between "it was alternate universes" & "Paul is just trans" ideas for Petscop has to be torn into a cavern. Paul being trans DOES make sense, but requires you to ignore huge details that immediately make it not work. The alternate universes DO kind of make sense, but require you to extrapolate out a lot of info purposefully left unshown.

It's hard to describe what i want to say, here -- i do think Paul being trans makes sense, 'splains why he & Care "look eeriely similar," you could argue he's just thoroughly blocked out that part of his life enough to have forgotten Care entirely, etc. I like it, & i keep it as i also say "Yeah, it's that & the universes theory." It's not two switches that demand you can only flip on one of them -- you can have both. You can have neither. Do whatever

[musclesandhammering]

Youre 12 if you think dyke is a bad word and gay men cant say it

Why do I feel like you’re a gay man (saying this to me, a sapphic 😒)…

I don’t think dyke is a bad word. I say it all the time, as a queer woman. I think it’s a word that has a lot of history attached to it and has been used to cause a lot of queer women substantial trauma. And I think queer women reclaiming that slur is amazing and powerful and I love to see it.

But I’m not going to act like queer women who have trauma surrounding that word are somehow less progressive for not using it and not wanting it used around them. And I’m certainly not going to act like non-sapphics using it (even if they are in the lgbt community) is in any way progressive or evolved or ok whatsoever.

If you are not a queer woman (or femme-presenting nb person), you are not in the demographic that’s been victimised by this word. It’s not yours. It’s no less lesbophobic for gay men to use it than straight people.

Same goes for sapphics using slurs specific to gay men or cis people using transphobic slurs etc.

And like I said in the original post, it’s disheartening and disturbing that queer people (especially younger queer people who may not have as much direct history with these slurs) are getting so comfortable throwing around all of them with little discernment and being downright rude when they’re challenged on it.

Just because you’re under the lgbt umbrella doesn’t give you the right to cross boundaries of groups you’re not apart of & haven’t had to deal with the same struggles as. And if you send a bitchy anonymous message instead of just respecting what said groups are telling you (when it literally doesn’t cost you anything) then I’m assuming you don’t actually care about the “community” that much anyway.

[alrightbuckaroo]

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[finalhaunts]

Lesbian flag discourse set us back like 20 years for real

[nervousmonolith]

[mossflower]

loki season two has me screaming crying throwing up trying not to get dragged back into the mcu trenches