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#i like the idea that damian comes out of this without a 180 degree personality change
superbat-lmao · 30 days
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Damian Wayne stuck in a time loop.
It resets when someone dies, and since Damian is the youngest, it doesn’t matter how rocky his relationship is with the bat-siblings, each and everyone one of them sacrifices themselves for him.
And Damian is pissed off because he doesn’t understand why.
Grayson is obvious, he has made it clear that he feels affection for Damian and has made the most effort into integrating him into the family. Of course he would die for his little brother. And at first, Damian believes he finds this outcome to be the least acceptable.
There is also his Father, again, a logical expression of love. Damian can understand why his Father would die for him, even if he doesn’t want him to. Even if, in the first few loops, he wishes that anyone else would die instead. At least it’s a type of parental relationship he can understand in the abstract, even if it surprises him to see its true about himself. That even though he has several older brothers and is unsure of his place by his Father’s side, the man would do anything to protect him. It reminds him of his Mother, even though he’s sure if she were here she’d find a way for the both of them to live.
Brown is the first one to surprise him. They had worked together when Grayson was Batman and he recognized her competence, but he thought that’s all it was. A working relationship between professionals. A mutal, if grudging respect. He is shocked when she dies, how he had no clue she would go that far for him. How he refuses to let it happen again.
If Brown was a surprise, Cain was a shock. Damian thought of her as nigh invincible, unable to be touched. It was clear she was the best of all of them, that she had seen the hit miles ahead of him, had maybe even seen him brace for it. But she had chosen to let herself go down. He feels every bit his age as he begins to wonder if he’s even more powerless to stop this than he thought if his most competent sister chose to let herself fall.
Thomas was confusing. He was new, newer than Damian and not quite sure of himself. They rarely saw each other aside from school due to the mismatch in schedules. Thomas gave him a wide berth, respecting Damian’s space in a way his other siblings failed to do or intentionally disregarded. Damian didn’t think much of him. Couldn’t understand how Thomas hadn’t even paused, had taken the hit as if it was an unquestionable law of the universe. As if they were really brothers and not strangers. It was a sentiment Damian didn’t know how to return.
Todd was the worst. He had seen him, briefly, before he had come to Gotham from the league. His Mother spoke of him rarely, but with pride. He was skilled, if untamed. He avoided the manor and his brothers and their Father. The only one he usually sought was Pennyworth. That is why Todd was the worst. Because he avoided all of them. Because this family had already allowed him to die before and he had come back wrong. A painful reminder that their family has failed. And he fought so hard to remind them all of that failure, every way he chose to keep fighting to live, to prioritize his own life over their Father’s morality. Only to throw it away for Damian. To force him to watch how his brother’s second death shattered their Father and Pennyworth and Grayson in a way that Damian didn’t think they’d survive a second time.
Drake is incomprehensible. Antithetical. A cosmic error. Impossible. There is no love between them, no grudging respect, nothing. Damian can’t stand to look at the person who he feels is a disgrace to the costume Damian now wears. He is the one who dies for Damian the most. The one he can’t possibly understand. The brother he has the least time to question, who gives him the least answers as to his motivations. Who will both die for Damian and refuse to utter a word to him in the same loop. It is madness. Damian needs to prove himself above this embarrassment, and yet Drake chooses to be beneath him. To die for him. It is in spite of Damian’s skill that Drake dies, and Damian hates him for it.
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thattimdrakeguy · 5 years
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Every single time I see a cutesy Damian post that makes him seem childish and babyish I grow a gray hair. All the times I’ve seen posts that try to make it seem like he’s secretly childish. Or actually has him say something childish or do something childish like that actually is just how he is, bugs me so much. Or just plain like they actually have no idea what he’s like so they make him some generic child. I get this deep belly frustration in me.
It’s that representation of not actually caring for the characters they act like they care about that drives me nuts, and they go in such a way with it that it goes the total complete opposite way.
and that stuff wouldn’t bug me SO much if it didn’t become the popular thing to do. Make him secretly play with toys, or wear childish underwear, or have him hide an obsession with a cartoon that just bugs me so much.
and I know there was that scene with him and Stephanie where he seemed to secretly enjoy a bouncy castle, but it’s not like that’s what he’s like to this degree. He doesn’t do this all the time. He’s a mature, adult-like kid. That enjoys painting, meditating, taking care of his pets that helped him grow more of a conscience and stuff like that, but there’s almost no representation of that without there being some fleck of “Oooo look at the babybat Damian!” in there. When while he may be the youngest, they don’t treat him like a baby, and any time they do it’s out of character. It just doesn’t add up with what happened before, and it’s not even a character development thing, it’s just a lack of care thing.
and it’s all fandom fun, I know, but it naturally brings out this deep annoyance and frustration in me. It’s become what people think of his character now in some ways, and it’s so backwards. It’s the popularity of it that bugs me. How wide spread it is, and how it comes out in such ways that it’s like they have no idea what he’s like, and they think he’s actually like this generic little child character.
Almost erasing what he’s supposed to be like that gets me so cramped up and frustrated. Because there’s a unique character there that no one represents.
(Don’t get mad at me for saying this in my ask box by the way, this is my blog I can say my own opinions and frustrations, and I really need too right now because I’m really frustrated with stuff (mostly personal, I’m not this emotional over fandom bull I just don’t want to get too personal on my blog).)
Cutesy Damian is worse then coffee Tim to me, because this cutesy Damian occasionally finds it’s way into an actual comic just to pander to people instead of trying to do his character justice.
Like you wanna know what I wanna do? Say that again, because I know someone’s gonna think this about something else, but it’s how popular it is, and how it’s found it’s way into actual comics just to pander to people. Making him play with toys, video games, having him do childish crap like that, that happened AFTER the fans started doing all this, and never happened because of some character development, because it just suddenly started happening to pander to people. Even though Damian isn’t like that, they just for some reason starting believing he was like that to fill their needs of needing some cute baby character they can make all this cute crap about when Damian doesn’t fill it at all. It’s a total 180 of his character. He isn’t like a normal kid it’s the whole point!
I feel like Damian’s starting to be erased, and the closest good Damian representation is in Teen Titans, AND EVEN THAT’S NOT RIGHT. He has a freaking prison and is dating some random 1000 year old girl (it’s a really creepy relationship that way, not even adding on the fact giving a kid who hasn’t hit puberty such a straight forward romance is a little creepy). Like there’s no good Damian content.
I have not been able to enjoy a freaking Damian comic. Cuz it’s either the arts hideous, or there’s something they throw in there that ruins the basics of Damian’s character for cutesy pandering, or a lack of knowledge that he’s past these rotten nasty things. It’s so freaking ridiculous.
I want to see Damian actually get some character justice again, go back to giving him real character development that represents his behavior in a more accurate way than suddenly being child-like in all these ways. When he wouldn’t do that because that isn’t what he’s interested in being. He’s interested in being a hero and bettering himself because he realized the wrongs in his life.
I get a lot of crap for seemingly bashing Damian stuff, mostly cuz I’m a Tim blog, but I just want to see the character done well, because I’m so tired of his fandom repsentation and a lot of his representation in comics, because it’s a lot worse than Tim in this way. Tim may not get any attention, but Damian’s taken a path and gets treated in a way that’s demeaning but not in a way anyone wants to risk talking about because it’s just that popular to treat Damian like this and shove him into all these unfitting situations and behaviors.
and I really wish it wasn’t popular, because I don’t feel it deserves to be.
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