i'm not really sure what the main thrust of this post is, but this yj98 arc has been haunting me literally since I read it months ago, so I've put together a brief(ish) overview of the salient points and the questions it's left me with
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that time young justice was sent to a literal intergalactic war front
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young justice has even more complex ptsd than you probably thought!!
yj98 #35
the premise is that there's a global war against imperiex, spearheaded by president (blech) luthor. as minors, they can't be drafted into it
(i hunted around and apparently Our Worlds at War, with Imperiex as the big bad, is the broader context, which i didn't feel like reading for this)
instead, they're going to be attached to a "sort of super medical unit" called the "paradocs"
the way they're persuaded to accept their role (instead of?? fighting on the front lines?? jeez kon) is to conceive of themselves as saving active-combat superheroes for their children they're leaving at home (creating an implicit distinction between those children and themselves, which i find sad)
yj is specifically a "search and rescue team"
with a civilian cissie king-jones as their qualified emergency medical technician (so her public persona is an olympic champion, actress, and volunteer veteran of an intergalactic war???)
is cissie the only one performing medical services then? do any of the others pick anything up from her, if these missions last long enough? (do tim and cissie bond as the only non-powered people they know going into a space war?)
yj98 #36
they've run "a couple" successful missions behind enemy lines: what does this mean for the duration of this role?
(i'm not sure if reading Our Worlds at War would help determine how long this all lasted, but if someone who has read it has answers, i'd love to know)
also, were they in space the whole time or going back in between? (i also really really want to know what batman thinks of his protégé being part of a space war. related, did cassie tell her mom??)
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Superboy Vol 4 #91: War Letters gives some context to this
(kon putting on a brave face!!)
but also:
even as paramedics they were participating in active combat, fighting off scavengers
the lack of specifics, the mention of the fact that he's met "a lot of interesting cats in the field," and of "things" he's seen—there's a sense that he's seen a lot but not enough yet for it to no longer be shocking. or, that what they're seeing is so savage that it never ceases to be shocking.
this also implies that they've met and rescued a slew of people from across the universe. does yj have intergalactic connections? do random alien soldiers remember this small group of earth children that saved them?
this panel also shows kon (and likely the rest of them) amidst recovering jl members. what does the broader jl think of this group of kids in an acknowledged war zone, seeing them beaten down like this? (it's unclear whether kon actually went and rescued kyle rayner here or is just helping him around the medical area, but there must be some sort of lasting impression from this)
they get diverged from their rescue mission and end up on apokolips
bart experiences death when one of his "scouts" is killed—this has a lasting impression on him (addressed later) and kon blames himself, since it was his decision to chase after steel that landed them here. do the two of them ever talk about this? (they don't in yj at least)
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yj98 #36 contd.
kon's accusation shows that this arc happened right after the drama between batman and the jla during tower of babel (the secret contingency plan drama)
and after batman's betrayal of tim's identity to spoiler (rip tim being betrayed on multiple fronts)
(tim putting on a strong front :'))
i find it interesting that tim considers his state "a world of grays" in contrast to kon's "black and white" attitude. balancing a multitude of considerations is a "world of grays?" anyway, tim staring death in the face and admitting he's scared :')
and then tim gets to watch lil lobo die (he does technically come back but!) and says explicitly that another part of innocence he didn't know he had died with lobo. this can't be his first time witnessing a death given gotham's everything, so is it because this is the first time he's watched a comrade die (and so brutally too)?
yj98 #37
and then! we get extended(?) mental torture on apokolips, enough to drive to tim to attempted homicide (both in the dream world and out of it)
(he was made to watch kon and cassie get murdered brutally in front of him jsyk)
and once he's out:
(does this ever haunt tim? that he almost broke batman's one rule? also parallels with dick beating the joker to death later on tim's behalf)
yj98 #38
the fallout:
we see that after experiencing his scout's death on apokolips, bart's been left with a fear of death strong enough to get him to leave yj (i don't actually know how this gets resolved?? it must happen in his solo bc he just sort of reappears a few mini arcs later...)
("i quit for a bunch of reasons ... but not a single one of them had to do with being afraid i'd get killed," cissie you're sooooo well-adjusted. she doesn't think bart's valid rip)
this is the moment where tim quits yj because he can't deal with their lack of trust (oof) and because“i don’t need the grief of young justice,” referring to everything else going on in tim's life (batman betraying his identity to spoiler)
(he'll lose them later on anyway—does it haunt him that he came back?)
(it's sweet that kon has someone he feels he can talk to and ask advice from)
i'm not sure if tim ever gets that apology
tldr: i kind of want one or more of yj to end up as a paramedic
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im spreading my agenda on you bitches without your consent. always some “transmasc” headcanons for characters, no, ima go switch it up.
transfem jaime reyes? please? transfem bruce wayne? shhh. transfem bart allen? hm. transfem jason todd? would love to see some punk trans girl… tranfem lil lobo? transfem dick grayson? it doesnt have to make sense just go with it. ted kord?
tranfem koriandr? transfem… harley quinn, kara… transfem… dinah lance? transfem tora? transfem cassie?
like COME ON SWITCH IT UP GUYS. its always transmasc
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My Version of Young Justice V2
Timothy "Tim" Jackson Drake: Robin/Talon
Rich Kid, Detective, Nerd, Genius, Coffee Addict, Workaholic, Co-Leader.
"I'm not Batman, I have friends."
Cassandra "Cassie" Elizabeth Sandsmark: Wonder Girl/Fury
Demigod, Girlboss, Tomboy, Leader, Fangirl, Horrible at Stealth
"We do this to help people, right? Save lives. So even if we die saving one -- it's worth the trade-off. Right?"
Kon-El/Konner Kent: Superboy/Scion
Kryptonian/Human Hybrid, Quipper, Hothead, Flirt, Pure of Heart, Dumb of Ass
"Don't mess with the S!"
M'gann M'orzz/Meghan Morse: Miss Martian
Alien, Telpath/Telekinetic, Shapeshifter, Lover of Sitcoms, Genke Girl, Likes to Bake.
"Hello, Meghan!"
Bartholomew "Bart" Henry Allen II: Impulse/Kid
Flash II/Mercury
Speedster, Surprisingly Perceptive, Ultra Hyper, Foodie, Very Affectionate, Immature
"This is SO CRASH!"
Mia Dearden: Speedy/Artemis
Archer, Street Kid, Loudmouth, Trick Shooter, Rebel, HIV+
"My life is important to me, and what I do with it has to mean something. And all I want to do is help people. That’s it. I want to help."
Jaime Reyes: Blue Beetle
Mexican American, Christian, Dork, Scarab Host, Superhero Enthusiast, Aspiring Dentist
"Don't go picking a fight with the Scarab."
Jackson Hyde/Kaldur'ahm: Aqualad
Human/Atlantean Hybrid, Soldier, Hydrokinetic, Dutiful, Level Headed, Soft Spoken.
"For as long as you waste your gifts on Villainy, I will stand against you."
Former Members
Suzanne "Cissie" King-Jones: Arrowette
Greta Hayes: Secret
Anita Fite: Empress
Lil Lobo/Slobo
HC's and Theme Songs Coming Soon.
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Okay... Because I’m getting tired of the confusion in the tags I’m compelled to make a post separating Lobo, Lil’ Lobo and Slo-Bo because I see all of them tagged improperly and referred to incorrectly here and elsewhere.
Please note the following if you are unfamiliar with the comics.
This is Lobo.
Defining features that separates him from Lil’ Lobo and Slo-Bo
1.) He’s an adult.
2.) He’s a huge adult.
3.) Is allowed to have a cigar and alcohol.
4.) Hair is long and sometimes is in dreadlocks but often isn’t depending on the artist.
5.) RED EYES. This is important.
6.) Immortal.
7.) HAIRY leather daddy.
This is Lil’Lobo
Defining features;
1.) This is literally just Lobo as a teenager.
2.) See the red eyes.
3.) A BIG teenager. This is the teen the football coach harassed into trying out for football. Lil’Lobo would have beaten him up with a fold-up chair.
4.) Hair is doing some anime thing.
5.) Immortal.
6.) A solid cub.
This is Slo-Bo
1.) This is NOT Lobo. He is a clone with Lobo’s memories but is distinctly himself. Displays empathy.
2.) YELLOW eyes. Yes, I know, official artists get it wrong sometimes.
3.) Scrawny.
4.) Shows navel.
5.) Hair is also doing an anime thing but with directional intent.
6.) Terminally ill, NOT immortal.
7.) Twink.
Thank you for listening to my presentation. Now go read some comics.
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