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i both love and hate being into media with a very niche fandom, bcus on one hand i dont have to deal with the exhausting bullshit of larger fandom, but on the other hand it is sososo scary to see what the few ppl who are in the fandom are saying bcus what if your specific little guy is being neglected and tossed to the side, or worse, what if it is mainly shipping with zero substance and i hate it all
#talk tag#vent#<- which will b in the tags lol#look man i wish ppl focused on the characters and not like. just romance. and i wish ppl didnt turn characters INTO just romance#sighhhhh. gotta hate feeling like the only person who doesnt give a shit about romance#like ill try for my friends who are into it. ill make romanctic hcs for characters n all that shit#but most of the time its just obligation LMAO. im just not interested in romantic hcs for certain media/charcters/etc#(obv im not saying im uninterested in making romantic hcs n shipping characters but when that is literally all there is it gets. exhausting#(sometimes i just need a break from all the boring ass monotony of “oh they get together and thats when they get happy. romance wins”)#(bcus sumtimes you just gotta realize that for certain characters romance of any kind is just so fuckin out of character)#ANYWAY im ranting and i hate ranting so im ending it here. vent over. if you read this far mwah mwah. kissie on the forehead or sum shit <3
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Fruits Basket,Se03, Ep 8 (part 1)
“ I hate myself, so much, so intensely, so completely, I wish I just go away, disappear for good, & yet in the end, I always protect myself, instead of taking responsibility, I run away every damn time, like now, I’m too scared to even look at your face”. The real kyo under the layers of trauma.
This quotation is why this ep is not abt romance. Instead it is abt: Extreme self-loath, faulty coping mechanism, self-awareness & inability to make correct decisions due to suicidal thoughts & non-existent self-worth.
This is a guy who’s literally seen death TWICE at the age of 4 & 15 (his mom & kyoko), is trying to avoid the THIRD (tohru’s) & is questioning why the FOURTH isnt happening (his own death).
-The layers of a broken self: Excellent writing:
I applaud the writer for choosing fitting methods to portray her characters’ own trauma. Yuki “ prince” mask & tohru’s “i’m okay” mask were fitting to hide their trauma & uncover the real personalities. However, since kyo would be the character to hide secrets & carry guilt, the viewers need to feel he’s hiding sth w/o knowing what it is. It was done cleverly to (a) tie the plot together, (b) build kyo’s character, (c) fit the climax, (d) suit his trauma of severe guilt & self-loath. Some of the things he does can fit two genuine layers: Both layers are true:
His initial refusal to open up to tohru in early se01. (Surface layer): he doesn't know how to interact with ppl who accept him as he confessed to shigure, (Deeper layer): he avoided tohru cuz he knew her!
He initially refused to join leisure activities & trips: hot spring & kyoto trip (Surface layer): he didn’t want to go with yuki (Deeper layer) he didnt want to spend time with tohru as he was unconsciously feeling that he’s stealing from her.
It killed him to see her true lonely self behind her fake mask & approached her with advice. se1, ep5 (grandpa house), se1, ep23 (sick tohru), se2, ep 8 (hiro’s remarks) & other instances. (Surface layer): he was noticing her issues, & genuinely wanted to help her cuz he’s kind (Deeper layer) he was falling in love w/her & unconsciously wanted her to be happy with HIM.
There were times when there was ONE layer, such as: kyoko’s 1st grave visit. He was so off, rigid, unresponsive, & completely shut down. Everybody read him. Yuki, tohru, Arisa & hana. they just don’t know why he behaving like that. his trauma manifested itself deeply that he apologized to tohru in her sleep cuz he was “ too scared to even look at your face”.
- Kyo’s trauma takes physical shape: (Clutching his heart: PAIN, clutching his stomach : DISGUST) :
While confessing to tohru, kyo’s features spoke volumes. You can see disrepair, guilt, broken soul, sadness & surrender. His body reflected his emotions:
wide eyes (disbelief), Cat eyes (utter fear)
trembling body (overwhelmed with toxic emotions)
clutching his fists (anger at self) , opening fists (surrender to darkness)
hand covering face (shame), Hand around neck as he finished confessing abt kyoko & yuki (desire for death: the final judgement)
The most focused physical appearance was his fist clutching his heart: he was in so much pain as he narrated how he loved kyoko & found a friend in her, desired to make her happy, to find tohru for her, how his his mom withered away out of fear of him & how pitiful & sad he felt towards tohru for loving someone like him. It broke his heart to see them all suffer after knowing him. All the love he felt for them squeezed his heart tight, he wanted to pull it & rip it away. Above all, he was sad to loose them all. Sad he can’t be wit them.
Then he clutched his stomach: representing the pure disgust he felt at himself. As he realized that there is no escape from being responsible for their death, as he admitted he illogically blamed yuki, his disgust with himself boiled in his stomach. What kind of disgusting horrible person does that? blame someone illogically? I’m horrible, hateful & utterly undeserving to be forgiven. Being disgusted with one’s own self! oof! it was so well-done with animation!
-Tying Mature Themes with Child Trauma:
Through kyo’s story, there were different mature themes that excellently dictate his behavior, mentality & emotional well-being: Excellent writing!
(1) The desperate need for self-worth: To be good for once!
by constantly destroying his self-worth thro contempt (the sohmas), rejection (his mom), hate (his father), pity (kazuma/ kagura, initially), kyo searched for an outlet to be a worthy human. Someone who deserves to be loved for who he is. He found that in kyoko. It is brilliant that kyo didn’t look for a mom in kyoko. He called her “ old hag”, she told him unflattering facts abt herself “ neglecting her daughter”. she was his first real friend. He found comfort being with her. He wanted to return the intimate feeling he felt deep down, kyo is so hung up on giving as much as taking as it contradicts the notion of pity. The opportunity came! Helping her find her daughter! being someone who does good! Return the daughter & feel worthy of being a true friend, a man (aka a person). “ i’ll help her, I’ll protect her for sure! it’s a man’s promise” The promise in its core is abt kyo wanting to be a person. Not a monster, or a cat. A true real boy. Away from all the toxic past emotions. Being a man: means being a big boy (person) with good achievements! All this shattered when a better boy beats him to it. The boy who was always praised, loved & respected! kyo’s self-worth diminished greatly & all the toxic emotions came back!
(2) The downfall of faulty coping mechanism: Creating a Bad Guy:
I stated before that one of my fave scenes of kyo was in se02, ep23 when kyo lashed out at yuki on the stairs upon seeing the hat & how yuki felt nothing but pity towards kyo as he was stuck in the past while yuki moved on. Brilliant scene that explains why one moved on & the other didn;t. Yuki’s faulty coping mechanism was being withdrawn & shutting himself. This coping mechanism didnt make him feel better at all!!! Also, he doesn’t have regrets nor sins, he dealt with his faulty coping mechanism with tohru’s help & the school council & healed gradually. Forever loving the writer for writing the distinction between kyo & yuki logically without painting any as monster in reality. Kyo couldn’t do as yuki for the following reasons: ( remember the old theme of everybody heals on their own pace? love it )
(a) He was addicted to shifting the blame as it made him feel better abt himself!! he shifted his thoughts from “ I wanna go away for good” “ mom, why didn’t you kill me instead” to “ it’s not my fault at all, it’s yuki” No match between the two feelings! one leads to suicide, the other leads to feeling like a mere victim. The two feelings are wrong tho & He knows that! he isn’t ready to stop the drug. He can’t face himself. “ the bad guy, if he isn’t as awful as you think, who you’re left to blame”.
(b) nothing around him can make him feel better. Tohru? but she’s kyoko’s daughter! she’s a lonely orphan, carrying her mommy’s pic taking to it! why? cuz you didn't save her! Loving tohru? is good & I wish we can run away far & be together always! wake up! why would she wanna be with a disgusting monster like you?!! You dont deserve her! you who caused his mom to die, caused her mom to die, blamed an innocent guy! Yuki? yeah, look at yuki, you can never be like him, watch as his true kindness gets noticed by tohru, the school & everybody!! he’s everything you cant be!! he should be with tohru! not you!! Master kazuma? poor guy! you brought him nothing but misery! you see his sad smile, don’t you? he’s disappoint in you. Kagura? she pities you!
(b) Kyo can’t fix his mistakes. kyo watched as yuki got back with his brother, befriended haru again, goes back to the sohma estate for the holidays. he feels he cant have similar reweds as he cant bring the things he needed. his mom, kyoko, his bio dad’s affection, kazuma’s pride in him, tohru’s love & his own satisfaction at himself. kyo just hates kyo “so much, so intensely, so completely”
(c) his fault coping mechanism mirrors his dad’s. Kids pick up toxic habits from parents all the time. Even his suicidal thoughts mirrors his mom’s! brilliant writing!
3- running away from responsibilities: perfectly constructed theme!
Who didn’t? I’m guilty! ugh! one of the best themes in furuba hands down! Any other writer would have made kyo do it once, or twice & have him face it in climax & then deal with it. but NOT takaya-san! She excellently took her time with kyo repeating this exact mistakes over & over to better portray the theme & take it out from the boundaries of story-telling to realistic depiction & logical gradual progression:
kyo ran away from being accused of killing his mom (he’s completely innocent & isn’t responsible for his birth’s deformity/curse nor his mom’s suicide)
kyo ran away from accepting kyoko’s words that yuki isnt bad & most importantly that kyo is good. He had found relief in blaming yuki, now you wanna tell me I should look into myself? I’m bad! i dont wanna look. your words are weird “ no bad or good” Everybody says otherwise, the sohmas, dad & mom! kyo angrily ran away (completely guilty but excused as child would be).
kyo ran away from facing kyoko’s body & wanted to punish himself with death. Depression took over him as “ master tried to get me to keep living”. (completely guilty in his own eyes, if only he tried to safe her, even if he transformed, Even if she still died regardless!!! he hates himself for choosing the disgusting kyo over the kind kyoko)
kyo ran away from telling tohru the truth upon seeing her, pretended not to know her, slowly dying each time she smiles, slowly falling in love & wishing for a chance with her, a chance he believes doesn't deserve.
Kyo ran away in se01, ep14 when remembering the accident as shigure triggered him. Tohru consoled him & he lost the chance to come clean.
kyo is running away now. Unable to face her “ too scared to even look at your face”. “ I cant forgive me! I dont want you to fogive me either”
So, after running away the first time, kyo should’ve learned better, right? now in the climax, he shouldn’t have run away? Yes, he should. cuz simply, he isnt ready. We dont learn from our mistakes cuz someone told us. we learn when we fix the core issue. A guy who thinks he deserves a chance in life would stand tall, confess his sins, argues, talks, tells the story unbiased, then waits for verdict. kyo thinks he doesn’t deserve to be alive, thus, tells the story with server bias towards judging himself as unworthy. HE decided the verdict & didnt wait for tohru: “ I cant forgive ME! I dont want you to forgive me either” That’s why toru’s words fall flat. “ why cant you see the truth: I love you” he can’t tohru!! cuz right now it is NOT abt love. It is abt trauma!
4- Sever guilt & desire for disappearance (death):
As adults our mistakes loom over us & we’re constantly reminded of the “ what if I had acted differently”. This ties with kyo witnessing his mom’s horrible death at 4 years old. Death in itself is scary. A loved ones death is devastating. Watching it unfold in shocking unprepared way is destructive. kyo was destroyed. Not enough: he gotta carry the guilt as his dad & the sohma hammer the accusations. He gets another chance & loves another person. Only to watch the blood splash reach his shoes. “Guilty” whispers the past. “Guilty” confirms the present. He stands in front of the most precious person to him. Now what? If tohru forgives you, the pain goes away???? You wouldn’t repeat the ultimate mistake of killing her, would you? you ominous creature. Her mom warned you. The nightmare stands hovering over kyo’s head, waiting to come true. IT WILL COME TRUE!!! OMG!!!
if Akito does it. It wouldn’t be kyo’s fault, right? If the car hit kyoko, it’s not my fault, right? if my mom did it herself, it wouldn’t be my fault, right?
But if only kyo didnt ran away, tohru would be alive. If only I pulled kyoko, she wouldn’t have died. If only I wasn’t born, mom wouldn't have killed herself.
The “ if only “ that killed kyo’s mom as she lamented “ if only I gave birth to the rat” will eventually destroy kyo! ugh!!! AMAZING WRITING!!!
5- The Right Time to Heal (self-desire or outside help?):
When yuki was trapped in Akito’s room, haru visited to help. did yuki accept it? NO. yuki didnt even remember much of it. Why? cuz it wasn’t the right time & yuki was too deep into darkness to notice, to accept & to change. It wasnt until he was out, in co-ed school, rebelling against akito, when tohru came, he accepted her, then it lead him to accept School Council & haru. Tohru had Arisa & hana, but never went to them in her darkest moment, hiding she was living in a tent, they were hurt & confronted her, still she kept hiding her fears, sadness & darkest thoughts, interfering in Arisa’s life to provide help, but never allowing them to interfere, until kyo came & broke her mask, she started to complain, talk, show true emotions & want things! She opened up to Isuzu, too. Arisa & hana weren’t the right ppl at the right time for tohru to heal. Kyo had kazuma to teach him better, kyoko to make him notice his mistakes, tohru to love him unconditionally, the right ppl, but all that was in the wrong time cuz he’s in his darkest moment now like yuki was, unable to see or accept. Healing requires self-desire & outside help, but it gotta be in the right moment, when you can see beyond the abyss & into the faint light of dawn. That’s when words will reach the heart. Kyo need to fall so hard, in order to stand up again. Today, he unloaded his burden, threw up the disgust he felt towards himself, spewed all the hate against the real bad guy: himself! Kyo is kyo’s bad guy, has always been. He needs to let go of hating himself & accept the kind gentle kyo that kyoko & tohru saw ~
Side Notes:
This ep is why furuba wins & deserves 20 years of recognition among manga-readers! this story is real! it is NO sweet fairy tale of two lovers. It is abt one’s self & desire to live. All of them struggle with this particular desire: kyo, tohru, yuki & the rest.
kid kyo was looking for young tohru all night! T_T
this ep of kyo confessing/ narrating his past , reminded me of yuki’s 3 eps of him confessing/ narrating his past!!! ugh! I wish tohru had that! ahhhh.
The 4 months in the mountains weren’t training!!!!! they were depression & suicidal thoughts! ouch!!
Perspectives are what dictate our feelings: Through yuki’s eyes, kyo was so happy with a loving father, friends around him & a house outside the sohmas. Thus, yuki envied him & wished to die not knowing kyo was living in trauma & feeling utter contempt & self-loath. Through kyo’s eyes, yuki was so happy with a living loving family, friends around him & a house with respect. Thus, kyo envied him & wished to die Not knowing that yuki was suffering abuse & neglect!
I love the pacing of this ep!!! It gives room to feel pain & understand the situation!!! I didn’t feel the headache of the bullet train!! THANK GOD!!! SO SATISFIED!!! I was invested all the time!
kyoko’s “ I’ll never forgive you” really destroyed kyo & went beyond it to destroy her own daughter! AAAAAAHHHH ~ T_T
I have some issues with the “ I forgot” part. It makes no sense that they make him forget the accident only to do the cheap cliff hanger in ep 6, then lazily weave it into his confession to tohru in ep. 8. He always remembered the accident. Apologized to tohru in her sleep in se01. ep14 for that exact accident, Then in se02, ep 9. It was ALWAYS in his mind! ALWAYS. Sorry Mr. Director. very lame try. lol.
The only thing I didn’t like is the music! very weird choices throughout the ep! especially at the end. Why a happy music over kyo’s “ I’m disappointed in you? lol!! its sad & tragic?! weird!!!!
I will talk abt Tohru will be in part 2. (her choice, kyo’s answer to her & the need to let go of her mom, the sohmas & of... kyo.
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I'm going to ramble a about something that bothers me a bit about rayemma so if you're not in for me being overly invested in fictional characters, this is your cue to not read this lol. Also I might sound like I'm taking it too seriously, but it's just me talking out loud, dw. I'm drinking coffee as I write :)
This contains manga spoilers!
I've already vented a little on twitter but now that days passed and I could notice other things, I want to talk about it here bc I think is calmer and I feel a little self conscious bringing ship related matters there. ( also I would've making a long ass thread no one wants to see lmao)
Let's state something first: I love Ray. He's my favorite tpn character, and I'm multishipper. Either if I'm being biased or not, I love rayemma, and I also love noremma and other ships. But RE has a soft spot for me for obvious reasons. And I'm not only talking only about romance here, tho of course I can't take it out of the frame bc, well is just another layer of their relationship. But my primary concern has to do with the interaction between both as it is.
Now, you may know about Shirai's and Sugita's commentary on the forest arc RE, if you don't it's here. Let's go to what is my perception.
Ray and Emma shared an unique bond like no other, would they have spent all those arcs on building their relationship from a very unstable/chaotic one to one which showcased a level of trust so deep that they were able to enter another realm and defy time and space......... that Ray out of all people was the one who felt her presence, was literally GUIDED to find her in a context in which realistically they might as well never ever see each other again to show us.. A sibling relationship? COMRADES? I felt like a bucket of ice was thrown at me.
I've always loved that they didn't emphasize the sibling part of tpn when it came to the trio bc in no way it feels sibling-like. I always considered them as best friends, the kind that life puts in your way and you can feel it's different from any other bond you may have. And besides, story-wise, it makes sense since ehem NE exists, so that would be a weird concept to praise while putting characters on a shippy moment. Now, I think it's only fair for all 3 to be considered under the same context. But looks like NE gets a free pass, RE doesn't, and NR is close to nonexistent so we'll never know.
RE bonding was one of the best ones I've ever seen and probably my favorite, I have no words to describe how much I loved Shirai for taking this path with them. But this commentary?? Honestly, wouldn't you feel at least a little salty if this happened to a couple that means a lot to you? imagining that exactly this description was used to describe NE. Sounds incredibly ridiculous and just nonsensical doesn't it? Like hell, it can be anything but not this.
"Hey but NE is sorta canon and RE never existed" Well that doesn't mean that they aren't friends FIRST and foremost, which is the kind of relationship they showed ALL the time throughout the story. Not of siblings, not of comrades. Of course Emma referred to all GF as her family, but that I remember, she never considered Norman or Ray as her brothers, explicitly.
So in short, I felt sad and in disbelief. Nothing to do about it, it's done.
“But he said it´s okay to interpret it the way you want” Yes, which is very nice of him. But after reading that, I felt so drained and confused that romance in RE at this point sounded like a joke, when their friendship is pretty much.. Just there.
On a more selfish note, RE doesn't get half the credit it deserves. Their friendship goes under the rug most of the time, and considering canon events and how Ray fell on the sides, and now this commentary over a relationship in which in 2 arcs it might as well have been a central point, being diminished with this.. Just what even??
Not that I have power over someone else likings or interpretations, but man I wish they could appreciate them more.. I also would love to see Shirai taking his time to describe their relationship not focusing on the " there's definetly not romance here if that's what you want to know"I feel like there is much more to it that just the explanation he and Sugita gave, but that's just me being hopeful.
I think this is the only thing I highly disagree on with canon facts so far. Not that it matters what random fan on tumblr says, but yeah
A side note: this commentary was part of the fanbook, which is not translated officially and the parts that are, were made by fans. So maybe there is more info about them, for which I will say take my input with a grain of salt. Also, I'm not hating in any tpn ship or Shirai or Sugita. This is just a way for me to express my feelings over my disagreement with their answers. Do not take this as me about to break into Shirai´s house trying to validate a ship, or forcing ppl to ship them. I'm just voicing my thoughts and maybe regretting making this post later on 🤠
I do believe in the potential of all kind of fictional relationships, so I don't think siblings or comrades are in any way less important than lovers, for instance. However in my reflection, if you read the manga, you will know how not fitting those term are for RE. At least, in my opinion, they aren´t.
Thank you for reading, have a nice day.
#Not wanting to mention it but to all of that add the fact that even rayanna was sneaked in even though it was not canon#So err what happened to curate every interaction?#Hello?#Anyway I avoided addressing ships as much as I could bc this ain't about it#But since I need to make comparisons to get my point I thought it was necessary#I still love Shirai and Sugita but this one is a hard pill to swallow#Personal#The promised neverland#yakusoku no neverland#Ray#Emma#Rayemma#Tpn#Manga#Anime#レイエマ
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spill the yoi hot takes :o
I’m really flattered with the amount of asks (I hope you won't mind that I combined at least 5, it's just easier this way), interested in my yoi opinions, I wasn’t planning to get into that honestly, until I mentioned it to my friend Alex (I’ve mentioned him here before without a name tho, he’s gay, he’s very into anime, he was also the one behind that 4am text “but how do u think Rin’s teeth feel on Haru’s dick” lol).
I just didn't want to rewatch it, as I've said before, but something he said got me very intrigued and last week ended up with me staying until 7am for a virtual watch party that got pretty hilarious, but not for the yoi reasons lol.
So just know that to be completely fair we did it and I'm saying everything below with a very fresh impression, which hasn't changed really bc like I'm 25, I was watching it the first time when I was 21, not 14 xD. I think it got worse actually.
Once again, I know that since they’re both gay sports animes comparisons are inevitable, but to me one has nothing to do with the other and no matter the fact that I adore Free! and don’t like YOI, I don’t want to throw words like smth is “superior” out there, bc I don’t want to be like those YOI fans back in the days, who thought that none other gay ships should exist after this (unless they say smth specifically for me to counterattack, then I can say whatever lol).
Like if you love stories like this, it’s okay. Like what you like. But to yell at everybody that they must think that this is how relationships should be and trash every other gay ship in existence, you maybe should not, especially when you don’t really have much to be proud of. Just like kisses don’t make a love story high-quality, full censorship doesn’t take away a good love story.
"Heaven official’s blessing” is also censored, but no matter how much you censor it, their love for each other is seen in their actions so clear, that it is in fact will not take anything away from the power of their feelings and the greatness of their love story if at the end they won’t show them kissing. Just like if I kiss a random stranger on the street, it won’t make us the best couple in the world.
Now I went into watching YOI unbiased the 1st time I watched it (I did watch it after Free, bc it was in “recommended”). I did not expect it to be “like Free”, I just wanted smth that’ll give me the same kind of emotion, investment in the story, ship, etc. It didn’t, so I just moved on.
I didn’t even think deep about why. I thought I just grew out of the “Cinderella” stories a long time ago or as it was here not very gracefully called “how to turn the pig into the prince”.
Like if you want the “she’s all that” but with the boy instead of a girl, you’ll probably enjoy YOI. But once again, love stories I enjoy are the opposite of those. It's really nothing bad, if you enjoy the stuff like “Someday my prince will come” in whatever age tbh, but I since a certain age just wasn’t invested in those anymore and began to obsess with stories like “Anastasia” instead, and I’m talking about love stories with less naivety in between and feelings out of nowhere, but more stuff like “yes, bitch, I find you attractive, true, but whether I fall for you unconditionally or not, only real life situations will tell later on”.
And I don’t mean stuff like going through war together or some epic journey, but grown ups must know those. Those life situations or even tiny things someone do, that make you not only fall for someone, but think “yeah, I can imagine my life with you”.
Like in my humble opinion, you can’t fall in love with someone bc of the way they swim or skate, for example. What ppl call “love at first sight” is in fact “attraction at first sight”. So yes, we do joke about Rin falling in love at first sight, bc he did in fact walked into the hall, saw Haru and was like “dat bitch is so fine”, even tho he was just standing there, but once again, he was just attracted to him. What happens after this is you can go on a whole beautiful journey with tiny Rin putting together the prettiest puzzle of why he falls for Nanase Haruka. In such little things like when Haru slowed down when he saw Nagisa feeling bad during running and Rin was like “omg you’re so uwu”, how he mentions that he always helps ppl, but never asks for help himself, he slowly gradually paints a picture of what kind of person Haru is, same goes for Haru about Rin. And then you have a whole story of them falling for each other all over again when they’re already adults, and you again watch it through their eyes, and once again I’m not in fact talking about some grand gestures like 1x12, I’m talking about stuff like them focusing on Haru’s eyes shaking, when he saw that Rin secretly helps Rei to learn how to swim. It’s the little things, that you watch and you get why they feel what they feel for each other. And that also makes you fall in love more with their characters by seeing how the other sees them.
YOI doesn’t have those moments. Not only they weren’t in any situations that would make them know each other for who they really are, they hardly even know the basic info about one another. Hell, the viewer doesn’t know anything about them. And this is why to me it goes into the category of those typical romcoms I can’t get invested in.
So I don’t think these two can be compared. And while some yell “bc you’re not canon, but yoi is canon”, I think they can’t be compared for another reason. Bc some ppl are trying to prove to me that a 27 years old man fell head over heels in love with someone overnight during a drunk banquet, then watched a vid of him skating and flew to another country and hey “if you win a gold medal, lets get married”. This is not the kind of relationship progression I’m looking for like at all. Between that time he started training him and their “censored kiss” there was nothing and I mean nothing that’d made me go “yeah, I see why he loves him”.
But anyways, lets live piecefully really, you can like one, you can like both, it’s all okay.
Like I know many have ptsd and it’s true that back when YOI was popular, most of their fans for real did annoy to death almost everyone, bc they yelled that No.6 is trash, when someone said “but you’re not the only one gay story that’s not based on sex”. They yelled that Free! has no right to exist bc its queerbating (LOL). By that time, I’m not gonna lie I was ready to poke my eyes out each time I saw smth YOI related, bc it was like: you make a multigay shipping vid - “how dare u not include YOI”, you make a gifset - “you forgot YOI” like I HAD TO like it just bc it’s gay. There is no such rule to me. Just like I don’t care for some hetero romances, I don’t care for some gay romances. Simple is that. Once again gay has nothing to do with the relationships dynamic and the story.
Yeah, comments about fanservice. Like why should I watch Victor’s naked ass for several minutes every episode, but don’t get to see Haru or Rin’s at least once? So salty rn.
Free is more fanservice-y.. well, it’s hella fanservicy, yes, but like we can’t swim in shirts, you can tho not show naked ass in each episode, I thought you were skating.
See, it’s all debatable.
But I do wish ppl stop putting yoi relationships on a piedestal, their relationship are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far from being inspirational for many and not even close to the what love is in my opinion. If you seek smth of a very high standart of gay love, choose MDZS for example, idk. But don’t throw YOI at ppls faces as a “this is how should be”. Not everyone wants that.
I don’t need a half-assed engagement and esp the censored kiss (like either do it or don’t do it at all honestly). Also stuff like this should carry weight. I don’t want things for the sake of things.
Like to me Rin’s “the only thing that hasn’t changed in my life is how I feel about you” speech, considering the fact that he felt like that throughout all those years, means hella more, than this.
I think 1stly, it’s because of the “it’s like it was a destiny xD” factor and 2ndly, bc at least this scene gives a little more sense to the fact that he flew to another country to train him. Now it’s if “I fell MADLY in love in one drunk night and was pining my whole life after that and that vid was a sign for me to go see you again” makes any sense to you. At least that’s how some fans read it.
Once again it might be a good thing for a passable one-time romantic comedy. But plots and pairings like this is what made me turn to anime in the first place, so.. sorry lol.
All this mega tragic posts of “Victor was soooo in love for such long time, it’s so sad” made me laugh so hard. Like he feel in love so hard during a one drunk banquet with a guy who was so drunk he didn’t remember anything he did? WHY? HOW? what could he possibly do to make him fall that hard, no one knows. Like to me the only reason u can fall for someone in one night is if you saw him risking his life saving a kitten or a puppy from a car or smth.
I’m just not the kind of person who thinks you can fall for someone for no reasons. Again, you can find someone attractive and go from there, but there must be things along the way that will make me believe in the progression of it. It can of course all come in the future, but the story was what the story was. Whatever you are trying to add to it is already a fanfiction.
YOI is not boring per se, bc everything goes way too fast and sometimes with no reasoning, so I was more surprised that “this was it?” lmao. But their relationships are dull, yes. Bc there is nothing to even discuss really, you can only assume things, bc the whole thing didn’t give u much, esp in the characters department. It’s just really funny to me that someone would write a whole post of “I love this character bc I presume he’s like that”, usually it’s “I love this character bc facts, facts, facts”.
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Now back to the beginning of my post and to the funny story that happened. We were randomly discussing shit, when I mentioned about possibly rewatching YOI, bc I didn’t want to start talking about smth in case I forgot some stuff (I didn’t btw lol) and turned out that he freaking disliked it a lot. I never even asked, for some reason, and we’ve been yelling about Free! and other stuff for ages and like his boyfriend is in love with Sousuke and they both adore rinharu to death.
And he has lots of gay friends who love Free (this made me happy the most, btw during our YOI chat I asked and it was 4:1 harurin:rinharu haha I win) and some ships from Haikyuu too, but turns out that literally none of them were into YOI. And the funniest thing he said was “bc it felt more heterosexual than some heterosexual stories I’ve watched”. Now I don’t know if it would make sense to anyone else out there, but I kinda did get what he meant.
I asked if it was bc of the “fairytale setting” and the fact that no one cared that they’re gay (bc “in front of the stadium?!” was the reaction, when I told them “there was a cencored kiss here” (btw not everyone got it lolz) and then “did they just write the story with a girl, but then changed it by the end?”), but they said “no, just the overall feeling”.
And like everyone knows that YOI targeted audience is hetero girls. It wasn’t made for the sake of the LGBT community and none of the homophobic ppl will watch it either, no matter what some think. So for whom they did it the way they did it is very questionable tbh. They say it’s the LGBT representation in anime, and yes, good, great, always happy about, but isn’t it kinda funny that some of LGBT representatives don’t even feel like it apparently.
Now I’m just saying some, I’ve asked him to ask around out of curiousity, and it was only 11 gay guys in total, who watched it, including our company and his bf who was forced into it haha, but 11 is quite a lot, considering the fact that not even 1 liked it. But then somehow stuff like MDZS and even uncanonical mikayuu was highly appreciated and loved, bc it accidentally made a dent in some extra conservative parents and dull ppl.
It’s just much more interesting to hear what guys who are actually dating guys think about all those kind of animes and ships, than some girls here who yell at me stuff like “why are you supporting queerbating”. Btw I asked Alex if he’s offended by that, he said “no, but we for real think they’re doing it” lmao.
It is supposed to be funny. You didn’t get it wrong. But if you saw many ppl would aggressively disagree with you. I just thought that “analysis” was an “interpretive process that draws conclusions from a set of facts”, not “writing a fanfiction based on assumptions”, but then again to each their own.
The problem is that I don’t even get what’s cute about it, it’s just absurd to me. Like it’s pulled out of an ass, for real. They’re not in the stage of a relationships, when I would find such thing romantic. And all the agressive denying of the fact that it was indeed wedding rings made this scene cringy, too. The whole thing is cringy to me idk. The “win the gold, only then we’ll get married”.... It all gave me a weird feeling. The opposite of “touching”.
So in conclusion, when you skip most of the important parts of the love story and jump into stuff just for the sake of it, then also make fun of it, it leaves a hella weird impression and aparently not just to me.
And once again trying to market some primitive story as an epic love story, just bc it’s gay is extremely weird to me. If you make 50 shades of grey gay, it’s not gonna suddenly become a pulitzer prize winning kind of book, it’ll stay the same dumb af story with dumb af characters, but gay.
So being happy about some representation (and btw they still managed to add stuff like “its not gay if you exchange rings with your hommies” here and there and make it “hahahaha joking”), I get it, but to say that this what all the gay ships should aim for, pls stop. We really don’t wanna. Sincerelly.
We here stick to a motto “I can picture the kiss of the characters whose story is so amazing, that the kiss is the only thing missing, but if I basically have just a picture of two guys kissing, I won’t write a whole story myself.”
P.S. I will forever laugh now tho at the fact that calling your bf a “pig” and being an arogant asshole without any canonically established reasonings is a great relationships, but Adam with his past gets what he gets now for the “dog” comments even tho his bf enjoys it lmao like I did not remember this bits in YOI. I honestly thought it was like completely “unproblematic” one, but it’s like hilariously not. So what ppl are trying to even put out their as a “pinnacle of the lgbt representation” as you say, like there are for real older yaois that are much better than this.
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Oooh yeah the first time I was playing as a female mc because I wanted to romance ava and I usually go male mc if I want to romance a man and female mc if I want to romance a woman (and I think there was one book with where mc could be non-binary so I picked that one but I didn't finished the book), and Stacy's brother felt Hetero™ in a way, like Hollywood ish (? Honestly like cinematographicly bad hetero) but I ended up really loving Andy too, and Stacy felt a little flat but also I really liked her potential, like go crazy girl, and the mom issues.
Apart but holy shit you're 10000% right about that teacher like who inmediately threatens expulsion just like that for something not violent ??? And to an honor student with way too much on his plate ??? Obviously it would have been bad with any student, but you have literally the reason of why he's doing it and as a teacher HE LITERALLY COULD HAVE HELPED WITH IT ??????? Like something teachers can't really help students because it's a family thing only or is a financial struggle or etc but it was literally because of school (and his family, but the teacher could have heloed him with the school part)
(Identity thief anon (also I go by any pronouns ahhshs))
ur valid! that's lowkey what i wish i'd do (picking female MC if my fave LI is female and the other way around, i mean) but unfortunately i always go into the stories blindly having no idea what i'll find </3 so i cant really do that doiajdiosa and then i get attached for the MC i picked so i feel bad about changing their gender/name/appearance when i replay. so what i usually do is that i pick a male MC when i get the option because A- u don't always get the option, so i end up being male half the time and female half the time either way; and B- i feel slightly more comfortable with a male identity than a female one. like i'm still nonbinary and i wouldn't consider myself male aligned or within the gender of Man, but like... when i first came out i went by any pronouns but then because im afab everyone was like "cool, she/her only it is" so i was like fuck that and stopped using she/her. so i feel slightly more comfortable with a masc MC and end up going with that
there's also the fact that it always feels slightly genderfucky to have a male MC because choices is so sexist and also always writes the stories assuming ull pick a female MC, even when they give u the option not to. so when u pick a male MC he's very like not toxically masc and some things they add to make a QuiRkY MC that are very white woman and would feel annoying are actually kind of subversive for my black and brown male MCs. so like another win for queerness /j
ILITW MC in particular i feel has HUGE nonbinary vibes like no reason at all he just does <3 maybe it's just that for once the male clothes for ILITW actually fUCK. i wanna dress in that goth outfit <3 so gorgeous ugh. i love him even tho he's a fucking dumbass
also there's a book where an MC can be enby? worm? ive only ever read one book in choices with any enby characters at all (america's most elligible, books 2-3) but they weren't even a LI which is disappointing cuz they were a billion times superior to any of the LIs. sorry america's most elligible LIs fans
also oh connor IS the epitome of white cistraight man even when u play as a man tbh, like he was just so cistraight to me daouhdsaojdasij he kind of annoys me but also i forget that he even exists until he shows up onscreen and choices starts trying to push me into his lap and i'm just like, ugh, not again
and yeah i think i feel a similar way about stacy. i don't dislike her as a character and i don't feel like she as a character felt flat, her growth was very interesting and i loved seeing her start to challenge her mom like YESSS GO GIRL GIVE US EVERYTHING, she just felt flat as a LI to me ig? like idk i didn't feel chemistry between her and my MC personally, but also like, stacy girls are valid u know
right exactly. like i don't think ppl really understand that a school that doesn't drive people to cry during finals week and feel absolutely crushed by having to be there and that makes ppl feel like they're stupid, not enough, and overwhelmed IS IN FACT POSSIBLE and actually pretty easy to make when we stop treating students like statistics that will get the school more clients/funding (depending on whether it's a private or public school). and like as a teacher getting my degree in brasil it just feels completely surreal to me that anyone would see a student who's so overwhelmed by the amount of extracurriculars and responsibilities he feels like he has to take that he starts taking drugs to help his performance despite it affecting his health, and see that as like... something morally reprehensible? like it is bad that it happened but it's not the student's fault, what's morally reprehensible are the circumstances that led to his decision, not his decision
and like it is very much a systemic problem, more and more kids are taking focus pills to be able to survive the pressure of school and have a shot at a future, either on their own or because we are actually medicalizing not existing to be productive. and if it's a systemic problem then the fault is at the system?? and like holy shit i legit don't understand why choices gave us options like being like "it still isn't enough" when lucas gets rid of his pills, what do you mean it isn't enough??? enough for what??? to FORGIVE him???? for something that only hurt himself??? for something that is very much a systemic problem and therefore NOT HIS FAULT????? literally what the fuck even is this, lucas doesn't have to "make up" for a single thing, he needs to be HELPED is what he needs
like idk i know that the school system in the US is...... extremely backwards lmao which is not a term i like to use because it usually implies imperialistic views but the US is the height of world imperialism so like actually idc. brasil has a pretty progressive constitution and as a teacher my whole education was focused on being critical of the school system, particularly the productivity obsession, and drilling into us again and again that we aren't supposed to just be teaching subjects, we are also supposed to be teaching how to be a citizen, be a critical human being, work towards building a better future, and learning and growing AS A PERSON to be healthy and happy are values of the school system
like that's easier said than done when schools are under insane amounts of pressure by companies in practice to be productivity-driven, and most teachers who actually want to do a good job end up having to live at the edge of the knife and constantly fighting back outside pressure, but at least it is very much a mandatory part of our education to become teachers and also like literally part of the constitution. so i just... i can't fathom reacting the way mr cooper did? like as a teacher i felt BETRAYED, i felt like he shat all over my profession because that is the opposite of what we should be doing, this is a kid who needs help
and just like hOLY SHIT HE DID NOTHING WRONG, what are you punishing him for??? it's not even a like, stealing bread to feed your family situation, because what he did HAS NO VICTIM OTHER THAN HIMSELF, and therefore HE IS THE VICTIM NOT THE CULPRIT. he doesn't have to repent or atone or answer for a single fucking thing, he didn't victimize others, he doesn't have to apologize, there's nothing to punish him fOR??? like i don't believe in punishment anyway cuz im a prison abolitionist but doDAUSDJADASIJDAS???????????? HE DIDN'T. HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. WHY IS THIS WHOLE GAME ACTING AS IF HE WAS IN THE WRONG. OH MY GOD
it's like saying that someone needs to be forgiven for self harming????? like how is it that someone has been hurt continuously until it led them to hurt themselves and then they have to? make up for it to a bunch of other ppl? my god it makes me so mad and i genuinely don't understand the logic, like usually when i see someone doing fucked up shit i can see the logic but i don't agree with it, but this time i genuinely DON'T SEE THE LOGIC. my USan friends said it was because he was technically doing drugs but like i legit still don't understand
anyway any school that drives a student to do something like that needs to rethink their entire curriculum and the psychological effect it's having on kids, because lucas is 1- not even the first one according to mr cooper; 2- even if he was, that'd be the only one who got CAUGHT; and 3- even if there was really only one singular student who went tHIS far, i doubt the others weren't feeling that same pressure and dealing with it in other similarly unhealthy ways
i know that's probably easier in brasil than in the US even if it's by no means easy here because here at least in public schools the curriculum and political-pedagogical plan has to be agreed on by the school community (teachers, parents, students, workers, and anyone who lives in the area of the school) and it's updated every year, so like, you have more means to do something to change the school in a deeper way, altho of course that still has to mean swinging the rest of the community, but still. but at the very least he could have looked for counseling for him? tried to find a way to take some of the workload off his shoulders? given him some more time on assignments? motioning for all the clubs he was the president of to have co-presidents so he was less overwhelmed?
like there was just daodsao he could have done so many things and he justs DIDN'T he chose to not only punish him instead but quite literally THREATEN HIM WITH DEATH because that's what calling the police on a latino student over a drug charge is. like he might've survived but the possibility that he would fucking DIE was very much there, and i know choices didn't think of that because they'd rather die than think about the racial implications of anything but holy fucking shit. and im not even getting into how mr cooper is BLACK because then ill just start biting people like thanks for putting that threat on a black character's mouth choices. if u need me ill be foaming at the mouth
anyway SORRY god why is it that i always get to the salty part within 2 seconds of joining a fandom i promise that i actually like it lives and the way they handled most of their plot, i genuinely think it's a very well written and actually worth ur time story but i just doadosaida like i said particularly as a teacher in the context where i'm being taught, plus with all my political beliefs, i just can't let it go aaaa
also ty for telling me ur pronouns! idk if i assumed them at any time, i don't think so but i might have done so without realizing and if i did im really sorry. also sorry for the gigantic salty reply daojdsaojdaisjsajdoadsaodasj rip me i never shut up
#it lives spoilers#ilitw spoilers#it lives#salt#long post#drugs tw#cops tw#police brutality tw#racism tw#victim blaming tw#anti connor green#ilitw#lucas thomas#ask#identity thief anon#self harm tw
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The funniest thing about june teasing katara and zuko about being a couple is that she just sees a pretty girl and an attractive guy, both looking almost the same age which immediately makes her go "you two must be a couple" and it just reminds me of zvtara shippers, you know what i mean? I'm convinced one of the reasons a lot of ppl ship them is bc of their looks. katara being the female protagonist and also a pretty, smart and powerful girl & zuko, despite not being the male protagonist, being the most attractive guy in the gaang. Boom, a "bomb ass ship". It is worth to recall that "people ship zutara bc they projected onto katara and had a crush on zuko". And if they say they don't ship them for that reason, then it's bc they read too much between the lines in every interaction they have. So, back to june, she didn't even care if they had chemistry or if they were friends or anything, she just straight up teased them about being a couple lmao. Because in all honesty zvtara can be an appealing ship in anyone's eyes but THAT'S IT, it doesn't go further than that. I can be testimony of that😅Before even watching the show i was like june, one day i saw a zk fanart and was like "wow aren't those zuko and katara from atla? They look so good, she's gorgeous and he's hot" i already knew kataang was endgame and that mai was zuko's love interest but seeing zuko and katara together was pleasing to my eyes. However once i watched the show for the first time (2 months ago i think) i realized there was really no romantic chemistry between them, nothing, literally nothing, i mean, i wasn't even waiting for the zvtara content in the show that made ppl ship them so much, i was actually very neutral about ships, i couldn't care less about them, but i still realized nothing was happenig between them and that it was obvious since book 1 ep 1 that kataang was endgame. Zuko and katara were two teenagers from opposite sides of a war that tried to kill each other multiple times and when zuko changed sides they developed a completely platonic relationship. As i said, people either ship them because it's an appealing and aesthetically pleasing ship (water/fire, enemies to lovers, opposites attract, the common red & blue ship) or they just love reading too much between the lines, OR BOTH, because they were so thirsty about it they ended up convincing themselves there was romantic tension between them, that they liked each other and that zvtara was scrapped when it was never planned in the first place. Not to mention the reasons why they claim zvtara should've been endgame are based only on symbolism and things they have in common that are just so ??? Random. e.g. (i saw these on a post on facebook and the comment section was hilarious, it was full of ppl being sarcastic about it & making fun of it) saying they should've been canon bc:
1. "They both lost their mothers at a young age" (?)
2. "katara was good but had rage in her heart and zuko was bad but had good in his heart so it was like yin and yang, and that was the main purpose/topic of the show" (?)
3. "they both had alter egos (painted lady and blue spirit)" (???) this one sounds like saying maiko was canon bc zuko worked in a tea shop and mai worked in a flower shop😂
4. "Zuko was the only one who supported katara in taking revenge on her mom's assassin" (?) if you ask me, that just proves zuko is not right for katara, he led her to do something she was gonna regret later (not trying to hate on zuko, i love him, and since i love him i acknowledge his flaws. I understand why he thought it was the best thing to do, he's an impulsive and resentful boy (he would've done the same if it was his mom) and he noticed how thirsty katara was for revenge, ofc he wanted to help her + he wanted her to accept him and thought it was the right thing to do in order to gain her trust, but it wasn't) unlike zuko, aang tried to make katara come to her senses and do the thing that was best for her: forgive and let go, and it was basically what she did at the end. She didn't do what zuko expected her to do. She did what aang expected her to do. She didn't forgive her mom's assassin, but she forgave zuko, and she didn't do THAT thing she (and aang) knew would regret later. Aang knew katara and what was the best thing for her to do.
5. and the most ridiculous one, "they both saved each other's lives in the final agni kai"(???????) and the funniest part is that it was followed by "WHAT MORE PROOFS DO YOU WANT???". Honestly wtf did ppl expect? Did they expect zuko to stand there and watch katara die? Did they expect katara to just stand there and watch zuko lay on the floor & die? And this has been said a million times and i am going to join and say it once again: zuko would've done that for ANYONE from the gaang, he would've done the same for toph, sokka, suki and aang. Because he learned to care about them. As for katara, she would've done that for anyone too wtf she healed aang once too and even brought him back to life. (I wouldn't be surprised if zk shippers used that as a parallel for romantic zvtara proof bc they're just like that💀)
There were more "reasons" but they're just so stupid and taken out of context like "they care for each other" & "katara was the one who encouraged him to talk to his uncle" like yeah that's what friends do. Basically all zvtara shippers do is REACH.
Also, i just can't see it happening. I like the enemies to lovers trope, maybe if the writers really intended to make it canon, i would have been down for the ship, it would've been interesting to see how it developed, but,, they didn't, and later i came to the realization that if it would've really happened, it would've been so... weird. Time to bring up the "colonized and colonizer ship" and how some ppl feel uncomfortable about it. Besides the fact that a relationship between zuko and katara wouldn't have worked (they're incompatible af, katara is a girl with a strong character and zuko is a guy with anger issues that takes everything personal, they'd be at each other's throats 99% of the time) it's just weird to think that katara would choose to marry a man from the fire nation, the nation that caused a big war that traumatized her, the nation that took her mother away from her. Imagine katara ruling along with zuko a nation she despised for years. Fire lady katara doesn't sit right with me, and i'm sure it doesn't sit right with a lot of ppl as well. I don't see katara doing that, and yes, i know she forgave zuko, but still, she would've never done that 🤦🏽♀️ i think it would've been so OOC tbh.
Another thing i laugh my ass off at is when they say "zuko should've chosen katara instead of mai" as if they were ever in a relationship for zuko to say "ok imma choose katara i wanna be with her". As if katara was EVER an option for him. They never showed interest in each other, what's not clicking?????? And zuko only had eyes for mai, not to mention that despite zuko and mai had a rough relationship, no girl would've dealed with zuko's bs better than mai. Can you imagine katara dealing with zuko blowing up over everything? Because i can't. Also people saying things like "zuko deserves someone who is always there for him and listens to him" (and ofc they're talking about katara) like, ok, you hate that katara is aang's "therapist" but you want her to be zuko's therapist. Logic? Where? And I do remember mai being a supportive gf and trying to cheer him up multiple times. Did they watch the same show as me?
Zvtarians try to play the victims about how they were "robbed" bc some voice actors shipped them and from what i've read people who worked for the show suggested to go for zk, but that's stupid, it doesn't count as "they planned it but scrapped it, we were robbed". The only word that counts are the creators' voice and they have stated they were always rooting for kataang, so no, you were not robbed.
People are just so in love with the idea of zuko and katara together they really convinced themselves it was likely to happen. Honestly zvtara it's a fine ship as fanon but ppl ruined it for me and what i hate the most is when they ship it and hate on aang and mai at the same time and make them look SO bad to invalidate kataang and maiko. Saying aang is abusive and mai is toxic is complete ✨bullshit✨ and lastly, it's ridiculous when they say the creators were cowards for not making it canon. They're cowards for not fulfilling your greatest childhood wish? Something they never planned? It is THEIR show. If you hate sm how things turned out then quit atla once and for all and go find another show that you know is gonna give you what you expect,,, it's tiring that they've been crying about it for 15 yrs , like, i joined the fandom recently but i can imagine how tired old atla fans must be of this.
OK so I have a lot of thoughts about this and firstly,,,anon I appreciate the dedication that it took for you to write this, and I agree with many of your points. However, the attitude I have on this blog towards Avatar ships is far more neutral than what you’re saying.
Ultimately, romance is not and never was the focus of Avatar. Romantic development was always secondary or tertiary plot, and the entire show was far more focused on platonic relationship development. My attitude towards shippers on here - including Zutara shippers - is that people can ship what they want, as long as they’re respectful of each other and of the other characters that “interfere” with their ship. End of the day, shipping is irrelevant to the core of the show.
People shipping something because they find it aesthetically appealing is honestly,,,fine. Personally, I think it’s reductionist, but I don’t care if you do because everyone has the right to enjoy media however they want to.
That being said, we absolutely should call out racist or problematic tropes that we see, including ‘fire lady katara”. I also agree that it’s upsetting when people bash other characters in order to further their ship, as much of the bashing is also pretty racist and/or misogynistic. Calling that out, however, is separate from calling out every single person who happens to enjoy certain ships.
“She didn't do what zuko expected her to do. She did what aang expected her to do. She didn't forgive her mom's assassin, but she forgave zuko, and she didn't do THAT thing she (and aang) knew would regret later. Aang knew katara and what was the best thing for her to do.”
I understand where you’re coming from, but I honestly disagree with this take. Both Aang and Zuko were approaching the situations from their own life experiences, but Katara didn’t do what either of the boys wanted. She chose her own path, by both sparing Yon Rha’s life but also refusing to forgive him. The episode is about Katara and her personal trauma and its focus should not be on her relationships with either Zuko or Aang.
When I make posts such as this, it’s less about hating Z*tara and more about how this fandom focuses all its attention on romance and shipping, to the point where if you acknowledge a relationship’s importance it’s assumed you pair the two romantically. I don’t read Zuko and Katara’s relationship as romantic (for reasons that it would take too long to explain here), but their relationship development is extremely important, the two of them share tons of parallels and the final Agni Kai marks the culmination of both of their character arcs. Yes, Zuko would have taken the lightning for any of the characters, but it’s thematically important that it was Katara. None of this inherently means it’s romantic, but refusing to acknowledge the significance of the relationship between them is equally reductionist.
This isn’t an attack on you, anon, and you’re 100% allowed to have negative feelings about a ship. But at the end of the day, it’s not worth getting this worked up over. If I were you I’d focus more on creating/consuming content for a ship you like than bashing ships you don’t!
#kind of nervous about posting this but oh well#atla#avatar the last airbender#shipping#zuko#katara#aang#asks
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My Manga List (2019) Part 1
So many beautiful reads this year! The theme for part one is isekai, reincarnation, time travel and etc types of stories so carry on ~
I Swear I Won’t Bother You Again!
Summary:
Violette, daughter of a duke, committed a terrible, jealous crime against her half-sister. As she languishes in prison, something unexpected happens: time is rewound, sending her back to the day her problems began! Armed with the memories of her disastrous first go-round, Violette is determined to live a quiet, unobtrusive life…but fate has something else in store!
WHY YOU SHOULD READ:
- plot = 5/5
- art style = 5/5
- ngl but this is one of the well written isekai/time travel stories for me hence the ratings
- you would actually emphatize with the mc (violette) despite her earlier actions bcuz her intentions/motivations are clear
- the ml treats the mc so well
- they are all good looooking
- the ml and the friend/maid of the mc is very supportive
- you will hate the villains (there’s no actual villain tbh, just random ppl who makes her life harder intentionally or not intentionally like the prince and the sister)
- the mc is aware of her wrong doings and she’s trying to change that yay
- good looking character designs hihihi
- yulan x violette
- anyway, more than a romance. this actually kinda focuses more on the mc’s road to changing with romance? sparkling it. Romance is not her priority, it’s not even on the list so it’s going to take some time before mc and ml get together
- to conclude: read this if you want a good, slow burn type of story with aesthetically pleasing to the eyes characters
The Result of Being Reincarnated is Having a Master-Servant Relationship with the Yandere Love Interest
Summary:
I was reborn as a Viscount's daughter, Cecil, in a very unexpected otome game where all of the love interests are Yanderes. However, Cecil, being the rival character in the game, was killed in every route by the chosen love interest. Furthermore, wishing to have a long life, Cecil meets Ashley who will be her servant and... he's one of the Yandere love interests...?!
WHY YOU SHOULD READ:
- the title is so long it basically revealed the theme of the story lmao
- mc is dense in a cute kind of way
- plot = 3/5
- art style = 4/5
- the ml... hmmm... ngl but his appearance on the recent chap is not doing it for me (spoiler: consent is important my friends)
- interesting and promising story line bcuz how much is the truth about the otome game
- the ml was - is very cute
- side characters are okay especially the president who is like the one person who’s thinking straight cause YANDARES ARE DANGEROUS OKAY
- overall, the plot and the art style is decent read although bit nervous and reluctant bcuz almost all the characters are yandare. the relationship between the ml and mc is cute too, and the story has potential
I was Reincarnated, and now I'm a maid!
Summary:
Yulia is reincarnated in a world set before the start of an otome game. She started working as a maid in the castle, but she is serving the princess who appears as a villain in the game! "I won't let this cute princess become a villain!" Rumored as a tough, impregnable maid, she herself will make sure to show the princess happiness! She will use her knowledge of her previous life and the life of magic to change the future of the game is what she thought, but for some reason, a knight who showed interest in her appears! Not taking falling in love into consideration, follow this talented maid through her fantasy!
WHY YOU SHOULD READ:
- the title speaks for itself lmao
- plot = 3/5 bcuz it has only like 1 chap so i cant be sure but it has a cute and promising start
- art style = 4/5
- basically the mc is so cute bcuz she just wants to protect her masterr and future villain of the otome game
- to end, i can’t say much but it has a really promising and interesting start w/ a touch of mystery since idk if the romance is gonna be relevant.
Sengoku Vamp
Summary:
Our protagonist, Hisaki has time slipped 450 years back to the Sengoku Era! Upon arrival she is greeted by Miyoshi Nagayoshi, a vampire. What on earth will happen to her now? Vampires, warriors, and a high school girl; a forbidden love though time begins!
WHY YOU SHOULD READ:
- v a m p i r e s
- plot = 3.5/5
- art style = 5/5
- the mc is super cute
- bunch of mysteries
- the ml kinda reminds me of miyamura from horimiya idk why
- cute and promising
- overall, if you had a thing for vampires and twilight saga then you’re also gonna enjoy this.
The Reborn Witch Foretells Destruction
Summary:
High school student Sena Shirai is just about to leave behind her shut-in lifestyle and join the outside world, when she becomes the victim of a traffic accident. When she opens her eyes, she's somehow been reborn into a fantasy world! However, everyone around her fears her as a witch, so she reverts to her former habits and lives a lonely life in the woods, until one day when... a young man comes to see the witch?!
WHY YOU SHOULD READ:
- plot = 5/5
- art style = 5/5
- this one is high on my list hence the ratings hehehe
- few chaps but the story is promising and leaves a lot of room for twists bcuz it has m a g i c involve
- the ml treats the mc so well i mean he cooks and didnt invalidate her!!
- mc is so cuteee and i love how she gushes about things she likes
- the predicament of the mc is understandable
- m a g i c
- m y s t e r y
- overall, read this bcuz it’s awesome and one of the few reincarnation/time travel/isekai type of story hihih the art style is so pretty and even the plot. the characters are also likeable
#manga#manga recommendation#shoujo#isekai#romance#the reborn witch foretells destruction#I was Reincarnated and now I'm a maid!#sengoku vamp#The Result of Being Reincarnated is Having a Master-Servant Relationship with the Yandere Love Interest#I Swear I Won’t Bother You Again!#yulan x violette#princesssehunnalist#reynlist#reyn.mangarecs
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May 4th-May 10th, 2020 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from May 4th, 2020 to May 10th, 2020. The chat focused on Dead City by Michelle Parker and Jey Pawlik.
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BOOK CLUB START!
Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on Dead City by Michelle Parker and Jey Pawlik~! (http://topazcomics.com/deadcity/welcome/) You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace until May 10th, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Discussions are freeform, but we do offer discussion prompts in the pins for those who’d like to have them. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic! Whether you finish the comic or can only read a few pages, everyone is welcome to join and chat with us!
DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 1
1. What did you like about the beginning of the comic?
2. What has been your favorite moment in the comic (so far)?
3. Who is your favorite character?
4. Which characters do like seeing interact the most?
5. What is something you like about the art? If you have a favorite illustration, please share it!
6. What is a theme you like that the comic explores?
7. What do you like about the comic’s story or overall related content?
8. Overall, what do you think the comic’s strengths are?
Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!
Erin Ptah (BICP | Leif & Thorn)
I don't know how long these are in the queue, but wow, "infectious outbreak that focuses on characters coping with limited resources while self-isolating from anyone contagious" is hitting awfully close to home right now...
Miranda
1. What did you like about the beginning of the comic? I really liked how it jumped right in. It didn't feel the need to explain the outbreak, the history of it, what the symptoms are, etc. It simply showed a zombie, showed a non zombie, and the stage was set. 2. What has been your favorite moment in the comic (so far)? I think the Vending machine incident and Mikael ust straight up getting naked to take a rain shower. 3. Who is your favorite character? I like Mikael and his personality. He's just very blunt and to the point 4. Which characters do like seeing interact the most? So far there are only two, but their interaction, while simple, says a lot about their personalities and experiences with the outbreak so far. 5. What is something you like about the art? If you have a favorite illustration, please share it! Black and white is usually hard for me to read, but this one does it well. I love Mikael's freckles. 6. What is a theme you like that the comic explores? How people handle crisis 7. What do you like about the comic’s story or overall related content? It's so simple, but even with few words, you can tell a lot about the character's and where they've been and what's brought them to where they are now. 8. Overall, what do you think the comic’s strengths are? Drawing the characters to show without having to tell.(edited)
RebelVampire
@Erin Ptah (BICP | Leif & Thorn) I looked out of curiosity. This was submitted January 13th. So it's a big happy coincidence.
Queenue
Oh man I love Dead City! It was nice to refresh myself on the comic since I last read. I will say, the artist handles black and white beautifully. This is such a great comic with such a limited palette (almost pure b&w with some spinkles of gray). The style reminds me of really great classic American comics, and I dig it a lot. And as an intimate character study of two guys struggling in a post-apocalyptic world, it is fantastic. JP is my fave character as I find him really relatable. Overall, I feel his and Mikael's relationship was well built up and realistic. All of those cute, quiet little moments between them really make this story. One of the major themes that I gather is that humanity endures, even in the face of the apocalypse. The end of life as we know it isn't the end of us, we can still thrive, and even fall in love when the world's falling apart. That's kind of a theme in a lot of zombie media, but Dead City really hits on this. While I kind of wish there were more zombies in the comic (lol), I understand that it's mostly a romance/character-driven story. But, it also tackles the issue of isolation in these types of situations in a really genuine way. You get the feeling that these characters are the "only two people in the world" and that they felt so profoundly alone before they found each other. That's powerful writing.
But it also knows how to use humor and light-hearted character moments to lighten the mood, which I like. I've never seen a piece of media in this genre that wasn't super dark and gritty and that's one of the things I love about this comic. And, I don't know if I can pick a favorite moment, but I do like their whole time spent in the suburban house just lazing about, drinking wine and trying on the previous owners' clothing.
RebelVampire
I like that the beginning of the comic begins kind of typical to a zombie story. Where character A meets character B but then oh no trust issues cause survival of the fittest. And then the story just completely deviates from it in a lot of ways. I really kind of like how it used the tropes to establish the setting quickly, before becoming its own thing. My favorite moment in the comic so far has probably been when Mikael froze and JP had to step up and take action against a zombie. I actually wasn't sure JP had it in him tbh, so for me that was a cool moment of just seeing another side to this character. I also liked seeing confirmation that nah, Mikael has been affected by the scenario and the whole has-it-together vibe isnt entirely accurate. My favorite character is probably JP if not for the fact I see myself in him a bit more just for the fact he never quite feels like he knows what he's doing and is just kind of winging it. Considering there's really only two characters, it's obviously JP and Mikael. Their relationship builds up in a very organic way that feels natural, so it's really enjoyable. As for the art, what I like the most is the attention to detail. Like Mikael's freckles, the fact JP's facial hair grows, etc. Those small things really just kind of give the comic that extra bit of polish that's really nice. As for a theme the comic explores, I think I enjoy most right now the human need for connection. Cause sure Mikael didn't trust JP at first (and possibly vice versa), and yet, are you really going to turn away perhaps one of the few ppl left? I think this story really captures that need for people to have someone else in their life.
As for the story's overall content, what I like the most is just how un-zombie of a zombie apocalypse this is. Sure we see them, but overall they aren't the focus. I also like that the zombies aren't treated as like this OP always have to worry about thing. One line that super sticks with me is Mikael noting the zombies got slower cause they're, ya know, dead and rotting. So I like that there is this hope that maybe it won't be a forever thing. As for the comic's strengths, again, probably the premise where it's a zombie apocalypse but that is so far from the focus it makes it really unique and stand out.
Comic Tea Party
DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 2
9. Do you think JP and Mikael’s relationship will be able to last, or will the situation of the apocalypse get the better of them? In what unexpected ways do you think their relationship will be challenged despite the situation?
10. JP and Mikael’s backstories are both decently vague, so what sort of theories do you have surrounding them? Do you think we’re in for a shocking truth bomb that may drive a wedge between the two?
11. Given what we know about the world at the moment, do you think the apocalypse will last forever, or might things get better someday? What do you think will happen if JP and Mikael run into more survivors?
12. What story moment about the harsh realities of survival hit you the hardest? In contrast, what moment about human connection hit you the stronger? All in all, what do you think the comic says about connecting with other people, even in survival situations?
Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!
RebelVampire
I think JP and Mikael's relationship will last. But, what I think will challenge their relationship is the idea that maybe the apocalypse won't last forever, or things won't always be super dire. Cause I think that forces them to reexamine who they were as people in the past and talk about that a lot more than they do at present. At present I get way more of an impression they're living in the now, so once the past and future can be relevant again, I think that will prompt some interesting discussions. I don't have anything concrete at the moment regarding background theories. However, I do think there's a dark edge to Mikael somewhere in there that will make JP go "I'm not sure if I like that." Given my opinions above and it being mentioned the zombies aren't as fast as they used to be, no. I actually think we're already seeing the signs that as long as humanity can whole themselves up somewhere and implement proper containment procedures, things will get better. As for more survivors, I actually don't forsee that being an issue anytime soon. And if they do meet other survivors, that is when I expect something super bad more zombie apocalypse like will happen cause humans are the most trustworthy bunch in this genre. I think the moment for harsh realities of survival that hit me the strongest was really when they realized they had to move and couldn't stay in one spot forever due to factors beyond their control. It's really hard to leave a place you feel safe, so that hurts the heart that they really didn't have a choice. As for the moment of human connection, it was when the freezing scene happened and Mikael was upset someone he knew was a zombie. Cause I didn't get the impression they were super duper close, and yet that hurt was too real. As for what the comic is saying, I think it's a message about how regardless of situation, we need to feel connected to others - even more so in survival situations.
Comic Tea Party
DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 3
13. What are you most looking forward to seeing in regards to the comic?
14. Any final words of encouragement for the comic?
Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!
jestershark
13: I think seeing JP and MIkael's relationship change and grow over the course of the comic has been a delight so far and I think it's going to continue to be interesting into the future. 14. I wish more people were reading it! It's definitely got all sorts of hooks...
snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)
I've loved reading Dead City! I really like how this story feels like... progress? Like a lot of zombie survival stories are about the protagonists slowly falling apart as more of them get picked off, but this felt... hopeful. Like, the two get better at surviving as time goes on. Especially given how JP & Mikael's relationship is such a major part of the story. The fact that they can find love in the zombie apocalypse shows that there is hope for humanity after all.
RebelVampire
I am most looking forward to them dealing with more zombies actually or survivors. Unfortunately, resources are gonna become scarcer as time goes on, so I'm interested to see how they change to deal with that. My final words are that this comic is super unique in its storytelling and, to me at least, is a beautiful story about human connection and how there is always hope even when humanity is struggling
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BOOK CLUB END!
Thank you everyone so much for reading and chatting about Dead City this week! Please also give a special thank you to Michelle Parker and Jey Pawlik for volunteering the comic and creating it! If you liked Dead City, make sure to continue to support it via some of the links below!
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If you have the time and if you don't mind, what are some books you really recommend? Doesn't have to be all time faves, but anything that pops into mind that you want more ppl to read and love, Extra points if lgbt+ , i got the whole summer with little to do and i wanna spend it reading some good quality writing and honestly so far your recs have introduced me to so many faves its unbelievable
[blushes profusely] oh wow, thank you!!! i’m so glad you’ve trusted me enough to check out some of the stuff i reblog; that is like the ultimate compliment, i can’t even??? i don’t mind at all(!), fair warning though: i only started recording what i read partway through last year and my mind is like a sieve so i’ll do my absolute best to remember what’s sang to me in the recent past. warning number two: i’m in an open relationship with absolutely every genre out there so i’ll try to note which belongs where so you can avoid those that hold no interest for you.
LGBT+
i’ll give you the sun. i loved this book, the writing is fucking transformative and all the characters are so damn likable, while still being realistically flawed human beings.
the raven cycle (tetralogy). definitely my favorite series since harry potter. the writing, the world-building, the characters, it’s all on top-form. i wrote a little, mini non-spoilery review of it: here, back when i was better (worse?) wordly-wise and my feels were brand new.
more happy than not. i’m still not sure how i feel about this book. it was hard, but it felt very true to the characters and the lingo and style matched the ages of the players and i have a lot of respect for that.
the watchmaker of filigree street. woooow i loved this book. i admit ‘historical fiction’ kind of makes me cringe. it never precludes me from reading a book but it does knock it down the list by a book or five because they’re often very dense and very clunky and end up taking me ages to get through. but this one was gorgeous. i loved the plot, the attention lovingly placed on every character and the historical elements. the surprise gay in an already brilliant book felt like winning the lottery honestly.
captive prince (trilogy). okay, truthfully, i’m only putting this on here because the second book is such a high point for me. it was never bad at any point but it had unfortunately been hyped far too much for it to live up to my, admittedly, very high expectations. hopefully it’ll fare better with you?
everything i never told you. i go back and forth on this one. i like the writing a lot, i like the LGBT aspect a lot, and i like the mystery aspect a lot but there are definitely characters i would cut out entirely for sheer predictability if i could and that killed a lot of my enjoyment at the time (but i think much more highly of it in retrospect?). so, take that as you like.
aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe. if there’s a book that handles its characters with more care or respect or consideration then i haven’t run into it. i love the way this is written and the people it’s populated with.
flying lessons & other stories. a bunch of uber talented authors writing a bunch of uber diverse and LGBT-focused stories and, yes, that is exactly as awesome as it sounds.
the song of achilles. it is utterly heart-breaking but so rich, honestly.
FANTASY
the diviners. (also has a minor LGBT character, who may play a bigger role in the sequel?) fair warning, i have not read the sequel, lair of dreams, because it is somehow still not out in paperback (yes, i read physical books, yes, i pretty exclusively read paperbacks so i can lug them everywhere with me, YES, I PRE-ORDERED THIS ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AND IT’S STILL NOT OUT, NOT THAT I’M BITTER ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING) so i can’t speak to that one finishing on a high note as i don’t know. but this was the first historical novel i managed to like in a long while. it does such a good job of fusing in 1920s lingo and dress and aspects that i couldn’t help but love it. add in the fantasy elements and i can admit i’m the perfect sucker for it.
the scorpio races. i’m not sure why but it took me a long-ass time to get into this book, i wasn’t flipping pages with gusto until well towards the end but - especially as i was reading so much YA at the time - i really appreciated coming across a romance that lets both people come into it as themselves and stay themselves, neither puck nor sean were ever smashed or crumpled or shaved away to fit into their relationship, which was so refreshing. plus the water horses were fucking cool.
the night circus. the writing, the atmosphere, the circus. just… it is all very whoa.
all the birds in the sky. i loved this writing style and these characters and the magical elements.
CONTEMPORARY
i’ll meet you there. there was something about this and i just… ended up liking it way more than i expected to. i might’ve just read it at exactly the right time, i’m not sure, but i really enjoyed it.
the invoice. this is honestly just hella cute and so freaking surreal. swedes, man.
NON-FICTION
why not me? i like mindy kaling a lot. i make no apologies for that. plus you can read both her books in about five seconds, haha.
SCIENCE FICTION
station eleven. i loved this book. the way the narrative is woven is so refreshing and i wish the comic book miranda was writing in this book was a real thing more than anything else in the woooorld.
illuminae. hot DAMN this book was cool. the plot was rock solid, the characters were hilarious and badass and the graphics made out of text and spiraling words and just the way this thing is put together? shit, it’s worth your money and then some.
a robot in the garden. okay this is just cute as hell. i can’t even with tang, he’s the most adorable robot to ever adorable.
annihilation (southern reach trilogy). (LGBT minor characters.) okay, honestly? i don’t know. this was freaking zany but i was invested as fuck in all the kookiness for reasons i can’t articulately elaborate on.
the martian. hilarious, engaging, SPACE. what more do you want?
HORROR
things we lost in the fire. this is more atmospheric than anything but, damn, could this get me wishing i wasn’t reading this in the dark or looking over my shoulder to make absolutely sure no one was standing behind me. it’s a book of short stories (by the way, i love books of short stories and i definitely realize that is not true for everyone) and each one is so well-delivered and stylized. i really enjoyed reading this.
let the right one in. okay, this is legit horror so definitely stay away if you’re easily squicked out but it is harrrrrd to find good horror (at least in my opinion) and this definitely, definitely qualifies.
horrorstör. i honestly had such low expectations for this, a horror story set in a wannabe-ikea, but it ended up being so ridiculous and strange and funny that i was won over by the finish.
the girl with all the gifts. holy unique and well-executed zombie idea, batman!
SHORT STORIES
the bigness of the world. there were definitely ones here that hit better than others but the ones i liked, i really liked!
GRAPHIC NOVELS (i read a lot of these so, um, prepare yourself)
saga. (LGBT minor characters as well.) this is world-building to a degree that i’m convinced did not exist before. just, i can’t say enough amazing things about this series and the staggering amount of imagination that regularly goes into it.
ms. marvel. heart-warming as fuck. it’s definitely really easy to lose faith in the world these days, luckily kamala is there to remind you that people are primarily and genuinely good.
black science. this is another one that took just an insane amount of imagination to cook up. i got off to kind of a rocky start with this one but the gray-ness of all the characters really speaks to me, and that doesn’t really blossom until later in the series.
spider-man/deadpool. this was very satisfying for my super duper spideypool-shipping mind. joe and ed did us so good, and joe basically said in his sign-off: i made it absolutely as gay as they would let me, haha.
the wicked + the divine. (LGBT minor characters that you’re going to get way too attached to, and retroactively. it’s awful [sobs].) the concept for this, gods reincarnating into teenagers before they burn up their hosts after a predetermined set of time, is so fucking cool. the humor and the characters and the plot is all just aces.
iceman (LGBT MAIN CHARACTER). okay, so this just started. like issue #2 was only released days ago but 1) i am liking it so far and 2) marvel did it so dirty and barely advertised bobby - an openly homosexual superhero - was getting his own series, like, i found out about it the day before it went on sale and i keep my ear fairly close to the ground (not as close as some BY A LOT, but closer than the lay person i’d say) so if you can support it, please do! pre-orders mean a lot in terms of numbers. :))))
descender. admittedly, this starts out rooough. because the main character, TIM-21 (and his little dog too), are annoying as hell. he’s an android so there’s no dimension to him so he’s booooring as all get out but i am so glad i stuck with it through to the next trade because, probably picking up on the unsustainability of him as a main character, he gets shuffled off and the side characters get the stage and they rock so hard.
paper girls. (LGBT main characters.) i’m kind of just convinced that brian k. vaughan can do no wrong at this point. his plots are so tight and mind-blowing and badass.
monstress. here’s a little tid-bit about me: female comic book writers are 100% more likely to get my money and my time because they are so damn rare and this series is unique, badass, and eye-opening.
black monday murders. i’m a little premature with this since there’s only one volume and i usually try to wait until there are at least two but i check up on a volume two a lot so that definitely means something intrigued me!
nailbiter. okay, i haven’t read the final volume yet ‘cause i’m reluctant to let it go but, so far, a series about multiple serial killers all being from the same town has me VERY HOOKED.
i wish i could remember more but this is honestly way better than i expected to do, haha. they’re definitely not all my all-time faves but they’re ones that have stuck with me for one reason or another and that i didn’t feel i wasted my time on, so that’s something, right? i hope this helps get you started and that you don’t think too awfully of me when you inevitably run across ones that aren’t your cup of tea!
#5 < 10k#the raven cycle#i'll give you the sun#the watchmaker of filigree street#captive prince#aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe#the song of achilles#more happy than not#the diviners#the scorpio races#the night circus#all the birds in the sky#i'll meet you there#station eleven#the illuminae files#the southern reach trilogy#the martian#saga#ms. marvel#spideypool#the wicked and the divine#paper girls#monstress#nailbiter#iceman#image#marvel#HOPEFULLY THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR???? I TRIED!!!#THANKS FOR TRUSTING MY OPINION THAT REALLY MEANS MORE THAN I CAN PUT INTO WORDS <3
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ishqbaaz 26.10.17 lb
i hope you’re ready for me yelling about feminism and the patriarchy all through today’s lb coz i’m just in one of those moods.
gauri is shooook. SHOOOK.
i would be too, after THAT confession. like.... what the fuck even was that???? i rewatched it and i had suchhhhhhhh a visceral reaction and cried more even than the first time i watched.
shivaay knows that shit went dowwwwwwwn.
oh boy, ajay doesn’t look to be in a good mood.
bro just coz two ppl are coming from the same direction, means absolutely nothing??????
i mean not in this case, coz these two were fully eye-fucking, but i’m just saying... generally, life mein. lol. 😋😋😋
when the guy you’re threatening makes THIS 👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽 face at you, maybe you should reconsider.
especially when he has backup. 👪🏽👪🏽👪🏽
lmfaooooo majaaaal toh dekho in oberois ki; SHAADI MEIN AAKE ISKI DULHAN KO UTHAANE KA INTEZAAM KAR RAHE HAI; AUR JAB BANDA OBJECT KAREIN, TOH USKO DHAMKI DE RAHEIN HAI. srsssssssly. suchhhhh assholes.
ajay be like THE FUCK IS HAPPENING??????? and rightly so, because OMG WHY THE FUCK IS SHIVAAY THREATENINGLY DOING DALER MEHENDI DANCE STEPS AT HIM???????????
WOW. AJAY GOT THREATENED BY THIS AND LEFT ALSO. AMAZING. 😧😧😧😧😧😧
“LEKIN KYUN?????”
behenji, pehle apne devar ke pooore ke poore karnaame toh usse pooch lo; bina kuch jaane hi aa gayi ho shaadi rukwaane.
of course, as a 4 lions leading man, the basic concept of a woman’s consent hasn’t ever occurred to shivaay.
“usne bola chale jao, toh tu chala jayega???” UM YES THAT’S HOW NORMAL, DECENT AND CIVIL ADULT PEOPLE BEHAVE. BUT YOU WOULDN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. STUPIDASS.
what’s reallyyyyyyy fucking annoying me is that even anika and bhavya look perplexed by this whole concept of om agreeing to gauri’s wishes. ANIKA. WHO WAS FORCED INTO MARRIAGE AGAINST HER WILL. ek kambakht ‘i love you’ kya sun liya saal-bhar ke bakchodi ke baad, uski akal ghaas charrne gayi hai.
“gauri ki aaankhon meinnnn maine tere liye pyaar dekha. MAINE DEKHA HAI!!!!!!!!”
achcha???? no shitttttt. aur woh bade bade aansoon that she’s been shedding since the day she’s met your godforsaken brother??? WOH NAHI DIKHA TUJHE, CHUTIYE?? #disappoint #brotpKoDhoka #dafaaHoJaaPlz
yeah please, focus on the fucking dabaav she’s under, and not your shitty brother. please, someone think of my girl for once.
if i hear the word “ishqbaaz” uttered one more time to justify such absolute fuckery, i swear.............
“hum dulhaniya ko lekar hi jayenge.”
“......... whether SHE wants it or not. making us no different from ajay, really. but since we’re better looking and the leads of the show, janta maaf kar degi.”
ok shivaay kissing om’s hand was cute af. i always love love love when he shows affection unreservedly by kissing his brothers. fuck stupid toxic masculinity where you can’t show your brothers and friends how much you love them.
deeeeeeeeeep cleansing breath to exhale out all the bitterness i’m feeling today towards shivika, or i’ll never be able to enjoy their couple scenes.
snort. anika cussing out lappuji and his shoddy work.
yup, this freakout at signs of aging is real. *bathes in anti aging serum in a desperate attempt to cheat time*
don’t know if you tumblr bachchas can relate though, coz other than a handful of us here, literally alllll of you are tiny little babies who should still be in your mom’s wombs.
LMAOOOO THIS IMAGINATION. ANIKA YOU IDIOT GIRL.
god he looks so good in the black tho. 😍😍😍
billu LITERALLY be like:
“aisa hota hai. is umar mein log satthiaa jaate hai thode.”
first of all, shivaay would never use the word “satthiaaa”. it’s such an anika word.
also fuck off billu. you were born satthiyaaaya hua. 😒😒😒😒
wifey mad. and sad.
“ek baar tumhari taraf dekh liya maine, uske baad main kuch aur nahi dekh paaonga. kuch bhi nahi.”
nowwwwwww we talking. 😏😏😏😏
also lol, this is kinda making anika sound like the ark of the covenant? like if he looks at her directly, he’ll go blind?
ok i’m not sure i feel this romance, with her still in the wig, and him looking so unlike him in this outfit, but his sexy voice is A++++++++++
OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM HER BEFORE YOU TWO GET ACCUSED OF INCEST
lmaoooooo “kitne jaale shaale ho gaye, NOT COOL!”
baal baal bache.
LOL. baal baal, geddit? coz both of their baal.... hee hee hee. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
diljeeet do minute ke liye votiiii ke saath busy kya ho gaya, digvijay has swooped riiiiiiight in and taken his place with all the titliyaan.
that girl in the dark blue outfit is a goddamn babe and all kindsa goals honestly. lord give me her face and hair and outfit!
#same bhavya. saaaame.
is he really going to shoot this gun inside the damn house???? fucking idiot.
lmaoooooooo bhavya’s glee at his incompetence.
HAAAAAAA, I AM REALLY LOVING BHAVYA MORE AND MORE THESE DAYS. WHAT A CUTIE.
back to these two and their weirdass oedipal romancing. when i was like i wanna see shivika role playing, this is reaaaaaalllly not what i had in mind. 😕😕😕
OMFG SHIVAAY STOP IT YOU IDIOT 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
ouff these cuteass idiotssssssss.
YES PLEASE REMOVE THIS STUPIDASS FUCKING WIG ALREADY
SO MUCH BETTER. YES. NOW PLEASE MAKE OUT. 😚😚😚
.... nope. one more interruption. goddddd, can you fuckers just lock the goddamn dooor!!?!!!!
ohhhhh ho, kya chutiyaapa hai?!?!?!!! 😒😒😒
lmao shivaay you fucking idiot, why are YOU screaming???? 😂😂😂
oufffff, these two aunties are really annoying me. can they die plz?
meanwhile unnecessary angst here between rudra/bhavya that literally no one cares about.
are we to get any rikara today or saara episode aise hi bakchodi mein waste hona hai???
“mazaak aap apni khud udvaate hai.”
preach. tell him, girl. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
lord, who’da thunk that i’d grow to be a fan of bhavya??? not me! matlab, i’m happy that the writing of her character has improved and she’s really likable now, but hella sad that it’s come at the expense of rudra’s character.
lmao did he just call her “MEAN”????? rudra, what are you, fucking 12?
ok fuck thissss stupid angst nonsense. you fully deserved that thappad for the BS you pulled at her goddamn fucking wedding, rudra. you have zeeeeeeero grounds here. less than zero.
why is anika being forced to sleep with these two buddhis???
BULBULLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!! OMG AANKHEIN TARAS GAYI THI TUMHARE LIYE. 😭😭😭😭😭
she’s here to rescue bhaujaaaai. bless her hearttttt, honestly. no one in this fucking show deserves the perfection that is gauri kumari sharma. she’s the best human being of them all and should be worshipped. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
hein? shivaay - maaaaaaaaaa scene??? matlab... okay??? 😕😕😕😕
WHAT? EVEN MAAAAAA KNOWS THAT ALL THESE ARE OBEROIS????? 😯😯😯😯
she’s not as clueless as she looks, this maaaaaaa.
god, even maaaaaaaaaaaaa is focused on gauri’s majboori only in the context/frame of OMG SHE’S LEAVING OMKARA. fuckkkkk omkara, and think about GAURI. 😑😑😑
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.
that isn’t the child actress who played anika in the flashback tho, is it??? chalo ok, whatever. key here is that shivaay’s potentially gonna bring aniRi together and oh my god i am already fucking crying at the ideaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
these fuckers are legit having a slumber partyyyyy here.
poor ajay. he has no idea what’s coming for him and his planned wedding.
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THE BEST HIT
damn ummmm this drama had me shooook with emotions like i was tearing up in some scenes lmao but in the beginning i wasn’t even planning to watch this drama, i was just bored and the plot seemed interesting enough. idk any of the actors at all (except for ji hoon since he was in goblin ha lol) but now??? i love them ahhhhh i was soo fucking invested in this drama like holy shit, i binge watched this in like a day and i finally caught up with the updates and had to wait just like ruler master of the mask the waiting was worth it damn
the plot was nice, i wasn’t that bothered by it lol but can i say that hyun jae is so fucking attractive holy shit he has the nicest smile ever i loved his chracter so much he had a great sense of humor and truly appreciated jihoon like i know ppl were complaining about the hyun jae x woo seung love line but hyun jae gave ji hoon multiple opportunities and pick up lines to help him?? and even made sure to not swerve into his lane but you know what ji hoon sucks at romance.
alsoooo ji hoon kept trying to go after woo seung even tho she stated that she only sees him as a friend and not as a romantic partner but ji hoon couldn’t comprehend that??? he was so damn adamant on getting woo seung like y’all can’t be just friends??? doesn’t he see that woo seung treasures their friendship so fucking much but he’s only satisfied if she’s his gf ffdsjfkd idk that irritated me a bit about his character but he’s a humble guy i guess i honestly wished he would have developed sooommee feelings for the trainee girl (who debuted lol) or realize the value of fucking friendship but oh well
annnnd all that bullshit that hyun jae x woo seung ship is weird bc hyun jae is ji hoon’s father can y’all stfu ji hoon doesn’t even see hyun jae as his dad and he’s from 1993 before he even banged bo hee??? so technically he’s not ”””””his father”””” also the ”””””age gap”””” between hyun jae and woo seung umm he’s still the same age he just time travelled so he’s not gonna age +20 years so fast they’re the same age jfc uuuughhhhh
well i’m glad that they got a happy ending. tbh i thought he was gonna stay in the past but this worked out well enough lmao u know i nearly cried when hyun jae confronted his 1994 self in the car like fjdkslfjdklf the feels the pain omgkdjfdf that was sad hyun jae was gonna die bITCH I WAS KOKOSHOOOK uuuuuuhghhdfkjdkjfdf and i also cried with the grandpa aaahhhh his story line is so fucking sad;; when he found out about his alzheimers and wrote mal sook’s name in the journal mY HEART WRENCHED HGOJDF and the scene with his daughter UGKHFHHHH do u guys know how sad it is to see an old man cry>????? also where was he in the final episode??? he just disappeared lmao
alsoo an underappreciated character would be gwan jae idk everyone was focused on the love line with hyun jae / woo seung / ji hoon but what about gwan jae and bo hee??? umm props to him!!! he cares so much for bo hee and the fact that they raised ji hoon together is so fucking cute i’m sooo glad that they got married (or will get ??) goals !! and now they registered mal sook in their family as well awwww and when mal sook called bo hee “mom” mYYY HEART i’m so happy
lllloooll i didn’t know that eun woo was in this drama i was so sh00k when i first saw him in the drama i was like, “he looks hella familiar damn he’s cute” i thought he was an actor i saw before but he’s actually just from astro lol i used to be into them but ehhh i gave up i’m sorryyy lmfodsf his character was enjoyable and he made the right decision to switch to gwan jae’s agency!!!! fuck young jae or watcherveerrr his name is, i know there shoyuld be some pity with his chracter since he was the lesser known of the j2 duo but idkk i didn’t like him that much buuuut i loVED MC DRILLLLLLLLLLL BOI HE WAS A++++++ he’s the comic relief in the drama but they managed to add in some bits of a sad story in him and i’m soooo fucking glad that he debuted he deserves it more than anyone and he did look so similar to taeyang lol who knew they were brother lmao
N E ways,,, overall the drama was nice i had my fair shares of the so-called fangirling because hyun jae and woo seung were so damn cute together and they made me very happy. it’s my favorite 2017 drama so far wooooww!!! the romance, humor, sad stuff :((( and storyline was nice (eeeeven tho it was a bit rushed in the end) also the OSTs were nice af since my favorite person in the whole world the god the artist changmo rapped an ost for this drama (check it outtt it’s the song that plays when hyun jae helps woo seung after the lighting fixture falls and she hurts her wrist) i love changmo so much and i’m glad he’s doing more stuff and featurings sooo i’lll give this a 10/10 lollll i will rewatch it one day ahhhh bye ((also i started saying “da-bong” and i hate it))
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I already sent you one but, Razputin. And/or Gaz, if you're up for doing two
RAZ
Why I like them: raz is a cool kid, i think that he’s entertaining from the lets play i watched a few years ago and his psychic powers are neat!Why I don’t: his character design is cool but i dont particularly like drawing it the maybe 2 times that i have Favorite episode (scene if movie): i liked when he got to interact with his father in the meat hell circus (the real father, not the fake nightmare father)Favorite season/movie: i havent watched any lp of Rhombus of Ruin, so the first game i guessFavorite line: i dont remember enough of his lines to pick one!Favorite outfit: he looks better in his lil default outfit than he does in that Full Psychonaut uniform he was wearing at the very end of the game, tho its still cute OTP: i dont ship anything from psychonauts :0Brotp: idk, he seems pretty chummy w/most of the campers and adults who arent buttholes, raz is a friendly dude iircHead Canon: is it canon that raz’s family is romani or was that just something i assumed over time due to their traveling circus caravan + european names?? anyways if its not canon that’s my headcanon
and if it is canon, my headcanon is that he likes pancakes.
(also, i went to look at the wiki page to see his family’s stuff and he has 4 siblings????) Unpopular opinion: i literally dont know enough about the game or its fandom to know if any of my opinions are unpopular or notA wish: i hope that the sequel has really cool looking mind spaces for raz to explore so that I Get To See Them, the mind spaces of the first game are my favorite design aspect of it!An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen: idk???
5 words to best describe them: persistent, focused, snarky, ambitious, lonelyMy nickname for them: just raz is fine
GAZ
Why I like them: her very no-nonsense attitude and generally apathetic outlook on the world combined with her surprising assortment of impressive skills and the focus we do get to see on what she actually Does care about (games, pizza, her family (if very reluctantly))Why I don’t: idk, im typically not good at finding reasons why i dislike a character if i like them in the first place? there’s a different mind space i go to for “dislike character” vs something like “dislike entire piece of media”Favorite episode (scene if movie): bloaty’s pizza hog is a fun ride, i think i like that one a bit better than game slave 2?? also i really like gaz in the comics in general but especially the issue where she has to spend the whole day making sure dib doesnt literally explode from sadness bc its very GoodFavorite season/movie: i like how she gets to act a bit more like an actual kid in the comics (tho its there in the show too) so comics are my fav for herFavorite line: man idk! Favorite outfit: her original outfit is cute! her pixel bunny shirt is more fitting for her gamer style life but god you cant beat a classic like that plain black dress w/the weird stripped socks/arms and that tiny skull necklaceOTP: gaz doesnt need no romanceBrotp: i really like her dynamic with dib! they are not the world’s best sibs by any stretch but its cute when they actually do get along, even just a lil bitHead Canon: gaz grows up to be a revered indie game designer. her games are famous for being brutally hard but incredibly aesthetically pleasing too (gaz develops both her Game Skills and her artistic skills for a double punch combo of SKILLZ)Unpopular opinion: gaz is a lot more interesting than i think a lot of ppl give her credit for!! like until the past year i didnt even give her that credit but she’s very resourceful and clever and has some unappreciated jokes which reminds me i actually do remember what my fav quote from her is now
A wish: give her something fun to do in the movie!! i really wanna see gaz do something fuckin Wicked and Cool in the movie and also i want to hear her angry child voice Once MoreAn oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen: on the other side of that coin, pls pls dont ignore gaz in the movie and focus Just on zim and dib’s rivalry. like thats a big part of the show yeah but give the side characters their due!!5 words to best describe them: apathetic, angry, gamer, purple, gothMy nickname for them: My Daughter, bc she’s my daughter
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1-3, 6, and 9?
1. How many characters do you have? 22 on Ebon Hawk and something like 50 across all servers. I acknowledge that I have a problem, yes.
2. What is your favorite class and why? And/or list the player classes in order of most -> least favorite.
1. Sith Warrior favorite, hands down, 25/8/367. This one does it for me in all the ways and not just Because Quinn but ngl, that’s a big reason. Most interesting romance, however you choose to play it. And the end scene of the class story is just the best. Also my favorite play style, both adv. classes are love.
I like all the classes, storywise, tbh.The rest, sort of in order:
2. Imperial Agent – I love spy shit, Vector and all the different ways to play the story. Love the play style, too.
3. Inquisitor/Jedi Knight – tied. Inquisitor is, I must say, the most unique story, the most likely to make a great movie or novelization. Also love to play. Though I still lovingly remember being a Sorc when everyone hated on us for being OP. Jedi Knight is a bit like SW just clunkier, playwise, but give me two lightsabers and the ability to jump on shit and I am happy as a clam.
4. Smuggler – A fun story, I think I might have finally made a toon I feel could actually be in a romance with Corso. But I have yet to find a spec/play style I don’t loathe. It’s just me, I know.
5. Bounty Hunter – Good story, good romance, good playstyle altho I’m just now playing a Merc for first time.
6. Trooper – I don’t hate the story, actually, although it’s a bit repetitive and times when I want to scream at BioWare for getting military life, even in the GFFA, so wrong when it would have been easy to get it right. I love military stories so I really wish this one would have been perfect. Assault cannon attacks are so out of control, tho.
7. Consular – Story is all over the place, feels like outtakes from the Jedi Knight as KOTOR3 story. But I adore my rock-throwing Barsen’thor and hope to some day raid Pubside with her. One day I hope to rewrite the consular story.
3. Do you prefer to tank, DPS, or heal? DPS is my favorite. I just love to stomp around with my lightsabers. It makes me feel fearless. I also enjoy healing, though I’ve only done it full time on my Operative. I have only tanked a few times on heroics back in the H4 days; I really am not confident enough to pug an op. Maybe someday I’ll sign up with my guild’s ops training runs on a tank.
6. Do you primarily play Republic, Empire, or a mix of both sides? Is there a specific reason for this preference? Mostly Imp side. It just feels more exciting, more focused. A guildie who was in beta speculated that Pubside was designed first (makes sense given the origin of the game) but by the time they got to the Impside, they said FUCK IT LET’S NOT MAKE IT SO LONG AND DIFFICULT FOR NO REASON and it was better. I mean Pubside Corellia planetary questline is brutal. The Pubside heroics on Balmorra are a hot gooey mess, esp the collicoid ones. I could do the Impside ones in my sleep, tho.
9. How about your least favorite companions? [just my opinions, I do not ship shame or piss on other ppl’s faves, so YMMV is my rule.] Aside from Skadge, I don’t dislike any of them vehemently. There are a few WTFs and just “personalities my toon and/or I can’t get along with” though.
Doc is Doc and not the kind of man I ever want to have in my life on purpose. The fact that he looks way too much like my ex-husband does not help, lol.
Ashara never meshed with my All Dark Side Sorc, but I have an all light side assassin – she’s level 61 and just started Alderaan, so maybe someday she’ll make it to Taris and we’ll see. Her story is great, don’t get me wrong. The real pebble in the boot with Ashara is what she says during gameplay. “I won’t give up my Jedi teachings” or whatever, six times in a row when you are a most Extra Sith is hella annoying.
I’ve said many times Pierce disappoints in a number of ways; he never meshed with Xhareen but she respects him as a colleague, just not as a friend.
I love Risha’s story, but not I’m keen on her personality. Thing is, I wouldn’t change it. She’s well done.
There are a few who just are there, like furniture, like Tharan Cedrax (altho his personal story gets better); Tanno only works for a DS soldier, or if you go bad later on – not that that wouldn’t be interesting!; Rusk is just boring and could have been better written and Forex’s jingoism is just OUT THERE TONE IT DOWN BRAH.
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Prompt 5? scenario??
I feel like in so many fics, stories, novels etc theres rarely ever a representation of bigger ppl, like theres rarely a romance story where the character is like overweight, theyre usually hot characters and as someone who has little to no self confidence myself lool itd be nice to read a fic where the mc is stuggling with their physical appearance and they slowly overcome this inner struggle with the help of their partner, yes maybe by losing weight and stuff cuz thats being healthy, but NOT like the character lost all their weight and became sexy and “worth loving” or shit, like itd be nice to just read a fic where its genuinely focused on the way their body is now and how they learn to love themselves and understand that they are just as worthy for love as anyone else So i was thinking of this au where you are an overweight person maybe lets say 75 to 80 kg or more watever u choose and have struggled with it all ur life
Uve always been the chubby one in ur family and it kind of stayed like that progressing as u got older and shit
And ur family has always picked fun at u about it not in like a spiteful way kind of like in the way where theyre teasing u but theres a hint of truth behind it And u try to not let it bother u but it does anyway and ur self esteem and confidence isnt exactly up there
And ur one of those romantic saps and just rlly want someone to love u and u imagine all the different things u cud do with ur boyfriend but u dnt think ull ever hav that becuz of ur weight and self confidence issues
Anyways so i imagine u to be in ur like 20s maybe mid 20s idk basically an age where ur living by urself in a small apartment and hav a job etc So one day ur walking home alright, cuz u missed the bus home and u were like okay ill start walking for now and maybe another bus will come as im walking to the next stop And so ur walking with ur earbuds in, listening to music wen all of a sudden someone running bumps into u harshy from behind and u lose ur balance starting to fall, completely startled And the guy who bumped into u stops in his tracks with his wide eyes and comes rushing bak to help u up and ur like mad pissed cuz like fuck that hurt and wtf watch where ur going
But hes apologizing and is like im so sorry im just in a rlly big rush and i didnt rlly see u there and i rlly hav to go now cuz im running late
And ur trying to keep up with wat hes saying cuz everything is just happening so fast and ur still dazed with ur palms stinging from scraping the ground
And then hes leaving screaming over his shoulder saying im rlly srry! My names taehyung (i imagine him as taehyung but anyone who wants to write this can use whomever) and i wrk over at that bakery down the street, come down there and i promise to giv a free treat as an apology and then just like that hes gone and ur still like wtf just happened
And u continue on with ur day, kind of annoyed, but u get home and just relax and get some food and watch some tv
so a few days pass and everythings normal and fine, until one day ur running late and so u hav no time to make breakfast before u leave to work and then u remember that a new bakery opened up near ur workplace and so ull just buy something from there and so u get ready and rush out the door
and then u get to the area and enter the bakery and its all cute with a pink theme and little cupcake and cake and brownie decorations and its all sweet and ur just admiring the place untill u remember fuck im running late
and so u quickly go to the counter and u greet the cashier with a smile and ur like hi can i just get a quick muffin, im running late and need to hurry and the cashier with a nametag saying jimin is all smiles too and is like of course! wat wud u like
and u look over at the display and see these amazing delicious looking muffins and a bunch of other goodies and u see a big double chocolate muffin that looks mouth watering anf u rlly want it but then u get self conscious and start thinking that shit if i order that hes probably gonna think of course the fat one wud order the fat filled treat and so u kind of show a small smile and order the banana and nut muffin instead wen all of a sudden u hear someone call out
and u look behind jimin and see the guy who had bumped into u the other day and ur like oh…
and taehyung rushes up to u and is like hi! i was wondering wen u were gonna come in for ur treat! im rlly rlly srry about the other day, i was running late and my boss seokjin wud murder me if i came in late one more time and he smiles his rectangular smile at u
and u giv him a wary smile and reply a bit confused cuz u hav no idea wat he means by treat and then jimin comes bak with ur muffin and is like here u go! and ur like thanks! and startt giving him ur money wen tae reaches out and is like watre u doing! i said u get a free treat!
and ur like huh? and then he looks at ur order and hes like a banana muffin?! why dnt u try one that i made?
and he ignores jimin whos looking at tae with exasperation and reaches out with the littl tongs and gets that chocolate muffin u were eyeing before and plops that into ur mufin bag as well and at this point ur sort of overwhelmed and u try to refuse cuz ur thinking that u rlly dnt need those extra calories
ut tae refuses and is like its on me, i rlly owe u, and at this point ur srsly running late and so u giv him a smile and say thank u so much and quickly leave the bakery with a bye and ur food and quickly make ur way to ur workplace
and then wen u finally sit down at ur seat and try to regulate ur breathing, u take out ur food to stop the growling from ur stomach and take a bite out of the chocolate muffin and u moan cuz fuck that shits rlly fricking good and probably the best muffin uve ever had and proceed to devour it (and u tell urself that thats already a lot of calories and so i cant eat the banana muffin too, but end up eating it later on not able to resist it)
and u knew that u were definitely gonna go to the bakery more often cuz that place makes heavenly food
and so a few days pass and one day on a day off u go out with ur friend and her boyfriend and u loved spending time with them but seeing all their cute interactions set this longing feeling deep in ur gut and u get sad becuz u rlly wished u had someone like that but u cant help but feel thats never gonna happen
and so to try and make urself feel better u decide to go to the bakery again and get something to lift ur mood
and so u enter the bakery and breathe in the wonderful yummy smell and wait in line to order something wen u hear a familiar voice calling out hey
and u look towards the voice and see taehyung next to a tall broad shouldered man behind the counters looking like they were baking something and hes waving at u wen the man beside him slaps him upside the head and tell him to continue wrking as tae pouts and u cant help but let out a little laugh at that becuz its funny and cute
and then u get to the counter and its jimin again and he givs u a big smile and greets u and asks wat ull hav today and u look to the side to see the differnt assortments they have wen taehyung calls out again saying
try the strawberry shortcake! i made it this mrning!
and then proceeds to earn another glare from the man beside him
and jimin lets out an exasperated laugh and is like srry, ignore tae u can get watever u want of course and ur amused and ur like its fine, i dnt mind i like strawberry and so u decide to go with the recommendation and order the shortcake along with a small hot chocolate with little marshmallows while taehyung beams at u which u return with a chuckle
and then u take ur food and sit at a little booth on the side next to the window and take a bite out of the cake and u cant help but moan at the flavours becuz holy crap how can something be so good
and so u enjoy ur treat and then drink ur hot choclate wen tae comes up to u with a smile
and he sits across u at the table and ur looking at him confused cuz ummm….
and hes like soooooo howd u like the cake? and the muffin i made the other day? its good huh?
and u laugh and ur like i loved them both and u compliment him saying hes an amazing baker and u introduce urself and u guys make small talk and u learn that being a full time baker and opening his own bakery is his dream and the first step to that is becoming an apprentice for his boss seokjin whos also an amazing cook
and u listen to him ramble, honestly surprised at how open hes being with u since u guys are technically strangers
and then he gets called bak by jimin saying his break is over
and its safe to say that ur mood definitely changed for the better and u smile to urself even after he leaves cuz tht was nice
and uk thts how i imagine u guys start to get knowing eachother, u visit the bakery often and talk to tae often and u guys become closer and rlly good friends and its already been a few months since u got to know him and the others at the bakery
and i imagine tae to be a lil shit sometimes constantly winking at u and flirting and tbh u dnt rlly realize it at first becuz flirting? with u? pshh
and then one day u go to ur parents place where ur family was meeting up for a bbq and u were having a good time cuz u missed ur fam
but then ur mom takes u aside and starts talking about ur weight and shes saying how shes wrried about ur weight and about how shes wrried that ull hav trouble finding a life long partner wen ur not healthy and uk shes just concerned for u but it leaves u feeling rlly depressed and u try ur best to hold in ur tears for the rest of the day
and then u finally leave and ur making ur way home, ur head down, chanting in ur head to hold in the tears ur almost home, just hold it in, just hold it in when all of a sudden u hear a familiar voice calling out to u
and he runs up to u and hes like hi! howre u doing?!
and u rlly try to hold it in bcuz taes so sweet and u think that he doesnt need to hear about ur problems but hes smiling so warmly at u and u cudnt hold in ur tears anymore
and taes shocked like hey wats wrong? and he hold onto ur shoulders and u cover ur face cuz fucking great just cry and make urself look like an ugly fat slob with snot everywhere and u feel this hate for urself and taehyung slowly pulls u into a hug and hes trying to soothe u saying its okay its okay
and he ends up bringing u home and u try to tell him ur fine and that he doesnt need to come with u but he refuses to leave u
and then u enter ur place and he sits on the couch with u and hes like im here to listen if u want
and taehyungs such a sweetie and even tho u havnt known him for long, hes become one of ur closest friends and so u spill and tell him wat happened at ur family bbq and u tell him that uk ur fat and unattractive to which he immediately stops u and is like stop no
and he tells u ur beautiful regardless of ur weight and he tells u that honestly he personally thinks its wonderful that u enjoy food and as a baker himself nothing makes him happier than seeing someone enjoy food (especially wen its his) and he tells u that theres someone out there for u becuz ur wonderful and amazing and any guy wud be lucky to hav u as a partner and then he pinches ur cheek and says besides uk how adorable u look? ur cheeks are so cute and he grabs both ur cheeks and pinches
and ur heart is so fond and warm and ur so grateful for having someone like tae in ur life and ur cheeks are red (both from wat tae said and his pinches lool) and u playfully grab his hands and try to pull them off whine at him to stop
and so i can imagine u guy contining to get closer and ur crush on him develops and tae continues to bake things always trying new things and feeding them to u first
and as time passes u like him more and more and the rest of the guys at the bakery smirk at u and tae cuz they know wats going on ;) and they try to convince tae behind the scenes to finally ask u out and tae gets red in the face and stutters and they do the same to u and u turn rlly red and ur like wat? tae wudnt like me tho, to which the other boys groan at cuz like woman how can u be blind to taes constant flirting?
and then he finally does ask u out at one point and ur so fucking happy and u think its a dream
and he helps u gain confidence always murmuring sweet things into ur ears and ughhhlsbfalusid its so cuteeewbuebwujd;
and so yea lmao god this turned out more as a mini scenario than a prompt lmao, well anyone can rewrite this!!! add their own twists to it or watever just remmeber to add credits if u do haha!
well i hope u enjoyed!! byeeee <3 <3
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Fruits Basket, SE02, Ep17 (part2)
Now that the romance direction is canon, let’s deal with the dark foreshadowing. This ep is loaded with hints towards the direction kyo & yuki are moving at concerning their future & personal trauma. Off course tohru is involved since her story is linked to kyo, but nothing is shown much regarding the direction of her own personal trauma.
As usual the treatment of tohru’s personal issues within the story is less impressive than the boys or rather less artistically expressed. I’m sure more spotlight will be shown on her later in the coming eps, but looks like tohru is indeed the foolish traveler (giving more than taking/ important for what she gives more that who she is) even on how she’s handled by the writer/anime story-wise, so far.
-Foreshadowing scene #1 ( the confession going wrong):
As I’ve stated previously, kyo’s “ why are you dreaming of dating a guy like me” is more towards tohru & himself than the nameless girl. Ep,9 has brilliantly established the realistic reasons & the logical justification of his mentality, emotions & decisions. The writer made sure to lock all doors in front of kyo to cleverly introduce a compelling dilemma & intriguing future climax. Kyoko’s “I won’t forgive you” is the key that locked the door for forgiveness. There is no way kyo will confess his love to tohru. She reaches out to him this ep (she’ll confess to him later). The realistic & logical cruelty of kyo rejecting the nameless girl will be paralleled later but harsher. However, I can’t figure out how the writer will open any of the closed doors?!!!! how there’s hope in the future for them?!!!
Possible scenarios are as follows:( I know I made the conversations simple & silly but that is for reasons of space & discussion)
1-Possible Scenarios (A): [Tohru: I love you. Kyo: Me too, but I think I’ve hurt your mom & she said “I won’t forgive you”. Tohru: there’s no way my mom will ever say that. you must’ve misheard/imagined it. Kyo: really?! Ok. wow! I was in pain for nuthin. let’s marry then!]. Result:it is a possible outcome. I hope not. It would seem very anti-climatic & ruins all the efforts the writer did to create climax & drama. More importantly it would’ve rendered kyo’s dilemma & trauma simple & superficial. Guilt is coupled with extreme self-loath & it’s serious issue. Furuba has always taken mental issues seriously. so, I suppose the writer will respect that in the final eps. Plus kyoko’s harsh words as mere imagination is meh~ development.
2-Possible Scenarios (B): [Tohru: OMG! you monster! you’ve watched me grieve all this time!! mom is my world! I hate you! I can’t forgive you. then more drama happens such as..i duno.. tohru leave the sohma, kyo hurt himself, but first goes to burn the sohma’s estate as they’re the reason they’re all traumatized. Perhaps killing Akito unintentionally in the way]. Result: too dark!!! it scares me!! I mean furuba is capable of that, but there’s always hope...It’ll send a message that guilt & self-loath issues can’t be faced/dealt with/healed & furuba seems focused on healing, hence tohru’s very own existence & character.
3-Possible Scenarios (C): [Tohru: What mom said is tragic! but I forgive you. Kyo immediately forgives himself too. they kiss/or they part ways]. Result: that’s also too simple & unrealistic! if hearing one word of forgiveness can help/heal kyo. then he would’ve been healed by kazuma long time ago. The writer has established that mental & emotional issues run way deep than simple words can heal. She even made kyo say“ it’s not like she healed the ugly feelings within me” That’s part of the reason why kyoru is epic as OTP cuz the writer debunked popular romantic tropes of one saving the other for romance to sparkle & pain to go away. I find it so hard & unbelievable that kyo would forgive himself so easily if tohru forgives him. It doesn’t make sense. This isn’t part of the magical fantasy curse lore. It’s realistic depiction of trauma that has roots in the tender age of 4.
so how?! where’s the hope? where’s the open door? I think knowing tohru’s true trauma will help paint clearer, more hopeful picture or darker one? I duno. But There’s also the theme of accepting help & standing up by yourself. Yuki is doing it, I’m sure kyo & tohru will do it too. You gotta decide to heal, you gotta stop giving up on yourself. This is the hardest part: Being kind on one’s self. None of the trio (yuki/tohru/kyo) is kind on themselves, but yuki is getting there first . This ep showed him accepting kakeru & allowing himself to live! The other two will do the same (I hope), but I can’t figure out how! & I love it & hate it at the same time. XD
Foreshadowing scene #2 (I won’t forgive you Yuki-style):
yuki has his own plot-line & most possibly will have his his own climax that involves his own story. But yuki’s scene with kakeru contained darker foreshadowing with dark music, depicting kyo in dark background. I gotta say his line “I won’t forgive him” is the reason I viewed the nameless girl confession scene as foreshadowing! There is a theme of “forgiveness or lack of” with kyo which is obvious since his trauma revolves around guilt. Yuki will be involved for tohru’s sake. but how?..oh man.. I hope kyo doesn’t transform into his true form somehow with yuki! The climax should be as humanely as possible. no fantasy beings, plz.
-The trios growth, so far:
I was happy seeing the new/real yuki sneaks through the princely mask in front of tohru’s & co. Not only did he complain abt kakeru openly but his body language wasn’t princely at all & he acted his age!! openly smiling, laughing & getting teased! Part of the reasons yuki’s character growth is more obvious than kyo/tohru is that ,unlike them, yuki’s true self was never out in the open. He wears a heavy mask to conceal his inferiority complex while inside he’s just like a child trying to discover who he really is while fearing ppl will hate the real him. Accepting help, & being content with who he is & forgiving himself/forgiving others is the path Yuki is walking in. Still not completely there but he’ll reach it.
Kyo (while having other issues) was always true to himself. While he’s becoming chill, calmer & more at ease with himself generally, he’s the same with yuki, hana. Arisa & his two dumb buddies: Speaking his mind & acting his age for the most part. The difference is kyo’s changed behavior & growth towards tohru exclusively as he has issues with accepting forgiveness & forgiving himself. he’s always believing he’s harmful/bad/monster/not worthy. So kyo’s growth has to be with his exclusive ppl: HIMSELF, Kazuma, tohru & perhaps yuki, too! The two of them are way more civil & tolerant with each other now. Able to hold regular convos regarding daily life in shigure’s living room with tohru & even shigure. They are accepting each other & they are BOTH aware of it whether they hate it or not.
Tohru is in the middle between the two, she wears mask like yuki but her mask is true to her kind loving personality, she’s honest with others like kyo but not honest abt herself/issues at all. She harbors low self-esteem & inferiority complex & deep feelings of abandonment. (her issues are yet to be explicitly explored/I’m just guessing/digging/trying to form an opinion abt her)Most of the things I say abt her real self is my wishful thinking & me building castles from the little foundation/personal scenes abt her.
That was a rich ep! I love trying to guess stories’ direction as it’s exciting to be right & more exciting to be wrong! (depends on how wrong tho XD)
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god. work is killing me. fuck capitalism.
as much as i love the 40 minute episodes and think it’s a better format for the show, i can’t help but be a little relieved that we’re going back to the 21 minute format; just for my personal mental health.
whut, did shivaay just abandon anika’s ass in the jungle? OMG DID A LAKKAD BAGGA GET HIM??????!?!!!!!! 😧😧😧
oh. there he is.
waaah, bina google maps raasta dhoond liya? maan gaye billuji aapki paaar ki nazar ko!
fuck rudra, i hope bhavya’s actually abandoned him. i wish a lakkad bagga would have gotten HIS entitled ass. 😒😒😒
btw i loveeeeeee how bhavya’s glasses survived the parachute jump. bas amazing only. 😌😌😌
i hope that’s dirty ditch water that she convinces him is soup and makes him drink.
BHAVYA WHY ARE YOU SO NICE MY GOD HADH HAI
ok i literally don’t care about their ghar ghar ka khel and bhavya being so good to him when he doesn’t deserve it is pissing me off so fwding.
like, every morning these ppl are like PATA NAHI SHIVAAY NE HUMEIN EK SAATH KYUN BULAAYA HAI. at this point, just stop being surprised. or stop fucking showing up????
ugh shivaay in this black suit from ep 1 just…. doesssss something to me man. i don’t want to feeeel, but he makes meeeeeee. this is my absolute favt. billu outfitttt. 😍😍😍😍
good to see he still hates pinky’s guts. 😆😆😆
LMAO SHIVAAY JUST STRAIGHT UP CALLING THEM OUT FOR FUCKING HIM OVER
… no mention of bhavya. apparently we don’t care if she survived. she’s not in the inner circle yet.
can’t get over how tiny shivaay looks in this shot, yet how he’s bullying the older generation into giving up the secret.
what “bohut dino se”??? your family and this godforsaken house has been AJEEB since time immemorial. 🙄🙄🙄
LMAO BRO SOMEONE OR THE OTHER KEEPS GETTING ATTACKED IN YOUR HOUSE EVERY DAY, WHAT’S AJEEB ABOUT THAT? a day where everyone makes it through safely is what should be ajeeb in this house at this point.
OH HO SHIVAAY DON’T GIVE UP ANIKA’S TATTLING LIKE THAT. LIKE YOUR MOM DOESN’T HATE HER ENOUGH ALREADY. 😣😣😣
i love fucking ENTITLED he thinks he is to the “truth”. lol if only life worked like that.
ok don’t emotionally blackmail him buddhelog.
…. so you’re just gonna walk away like that??? cool, i guess. 😕😕😕
pffffffffft. YOU SHOULD LIVE IN PERPETUAL SHAK OF YOUR FAM AFTER WHAT YOUR OWN DAMN MOM DID TO YOU.
HAHAHAHAHA “SHIVAAY BOHUT SENSIBLE HAI” HAHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME MAN I THINK WE ARE COZ SENSIBLE IS THE LAST THING HE IS
ok everyone’s getting awfully defensive about their involvement.
so even tej is all about shivaay being the “neev” of this fam now? we’ve just given up on our own sons doing anything of consequence, have we?
shakti, you don’t knowwwww shivaay at all. AT ALL. i’m more of a dad to shivaay than you are. 😒😒😒
WHAT THE FUCK RAAZ MAN I HATE THIS SHITTY PLOT SO MUCH Y’ALL ARE SO SHADY
woooooooop shukla’s up!
not even a question to shukla like “oh, you’re out of the coma? how you feeling? let me come to the hospital to see you so you don’t have to trouble yourself!”
OBLIGATORY TRIP TO THE MAIDAAN OF ALL HORRIBLE OBEROI EVENTS
why the f is shivaay wearing sunglasses at what looks like fucking 7 pm
GOD THIS SHUKLA ACTOR ANNOYS ME SO MUCH. JUST HIS FACE MAKES ME WANNA BEAT HIM UP.
what the fuck sense does this make, why would they want tapes proving their innocence destroyed????
betting you that it was abhay’s overly satyavaaadi dad who did it. 🙄🙄🙄
tfw you find out that your fam aren’t cold blooded murderers/arsonists. a momentous time in every couple’s life! 😊😊😊
god shivaay you’re such a fucking idiot i swear. one random person told you that your fam are murderers and you believed him. now this other random person said they’re not and you believed HIM. like fucking have one independent thought in your front seat waala dimaag, please! 😣😣😣
GOD I HATE THIS PLOT AND THIS WRITING AND EVERYTHING SO MUCH I DON’T CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE SHOW ME MY BABIES DILPREEEEEEEEET AND GAURIIIIIII
lmaooooooo and abhay’s life continues to suck. 😂😂😂
other than the genetic lottery that dealt him that face and THAT bod. 😍😍😍
howwww the fuck did this shop waala dude even know this guy is an oberoi/lives there???
lmao delivery for “MR. OBEROI”????? there’s 6 of them here!!!!! you gotta be a little more specific, my man.
why can’t dadi open the package on her own?
ohhhhhhh boy dadi’s in the mood to watch a movieeeeeeeeee.
lmao dadi just realised she has a life outside of this chutiyaapa and fucked right off.
ok you ppl are hella rich. there’s absolutely no need for you to fight over this ONE tv like a middle class fam from the 90s. 😒😒😒
TANYA MY GOD HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF ABHAY’S APPROVAL FOR FUCKS SAKE GIRL, GET A HOBBY OR SOME SHIT 😩😩😩
gosh i feel so bad for tanya, being stuck in this house with these maniacs, for a guy who doesn’t even give a fuck about her. she needs to leave his ass already. girl however hot he is, and HOTTTTTTTTT he is, it isn’t worth this shit.
ok pinky, kitna makhan lagaaogi toast pe???? cholesterol ka bhi toh kuch khayal rakho. 😬😬😬
abhay’s hereeeeeeeeeee. looking hotttt af.
the tape lives to see another dayy!
ok honestly, pinky/jhanvi, what the fuck do you even do all day??? dadi gives you ONE thing to do and you can’t even do that? it’s not like you guys are focused on… oh idk, YOUR KIDS or anything.
OMFG I TRULY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS PLOT WHY IS THIS STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GOING ONNNNNNN CAN WE MOVE ON TO ANYYYYYYYYTHING ELSE. ANYTHING?!?!?! LIKE, LET’S DELVE INTO KHANNA’S PERSONAL LIFE. LET’S GO INTO TANYA’S BACKSTORY. LET’S GO TO ALL THE FUCKING WAY TO AMERICA AND CHECK UP ON FUCKING PRINKU, I AM LITERALLY MORE INTERESTED IN HER THAN WHAT’S GOING ON HERE RIGHT NOW. FUCKING FWDING. I’VE HAD ENOUGH. 😤😤😤😤
okaaaaay i see some fakeass happy family shit as i’m fwding.
ugh rudra is back too.
btw, i love how shivaay’s priority was this nonsense raaz, over, oh idk, IF RUDRA SURVIVED JUMPING OUT THE PLANE.
ugh ok i don’t care anymore. fwding.
om’s outtta disguise? okaaaaay. 🤔🤔🤔
YEAH THAT WOULD INVOLVE TELLING HER THAT YOU’RE OMKARA SINGH OBEROI. 😒😒😒
OUFF NOT THE TIME TO PLAY VICTIM YOU LITTLE SHIT
god he looks sooooo hottttt todayyyyyy though *strokes the screen lovingly* 😍😍😍
awwww, he’s cryinggggg. baby nooooooo. 😥😥😥
actually baby yes. cry a little. you deserve it for how much you made my girl cry. 😠😠😠
ugh godddddd i don’t care about you shitty oberois, where’s my girl gauri?
metaaa announcement about show being half hour now.
pfffffft, pataakhon ki awaaz se darrte hai yeh phatuus.
shivaay’s motto is apparently “patakha jalao mat, pataakha bano.”
sounds more like anika’s motto to me but ok whatever.
waise this whole episode is hella boring and making me want to die a little. laaaaaaaaaast 40 min episode and awaiiii ki bakchodi mein time waste.
anika has some traumatic diwali babyhood memories?
daaaaaang, those some rudeass orphanage ppl.
snorttttttttttt taaaana about the much delayed ‘i love you’.
MY GOD YOU FUCKERS ARE SO IMMATURE
finaaaaaalllllly. gauriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. my gauriiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. what a sight for sore eyessssssssss.. 💖💖💖💖
gauri switched teams from shankarji to devi maiyya?
oufffff gauri yaaaaaaaaaar. such contrived situation to go to OM again.
ok devi maiyya, that’s a hella vague answer. this could go either way???
but gauri seems to be adept at interpreting, so good for her i guess.
abhayyyy looking hot af in whiiiiiiite.
i’m soooooooo sure now that abhay’s dad was the one who fucked everything up.
tanya’s here. to show love to abhay. and get yelled at in return. COZ SHE NEVER LEARNS. 😣😣😣
wow, tanya. you’re awfully blackmail-y for a sanskaari, mandir-going type no? 😕😕😕
aaaaaaand abhay’s a POS. as usual. who is surprised? not me.
tanya whyyyyyyyyyyy are you with this asssholeeeee????? my girllllll you deserve soooooo much better!
and omkara’s running away from his issues. as always.
um did gauri get dressed in the dark???? why is she wearing THOSE bottoms with that kurta/dupatta?
lmaoooo omg tanya giving example of shivika as sachcha pyaar to light a real fire under abhay’s ass. that got his attention!
YES TANYA LEAVE HIS ASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
omg this is the besttttttttttt thing to happen in this episodeeeeee I AM SO HAPPY FOR MY GIRLLLLLLLLLL 😭😭😭😭😭
YAS TANYAAAAAAAAA, NOW GO MEET UP WITH RAGINI AND BE FABULOUSLY GAY WITH HER SOMEWHERE FAR FAR AWAY FROM THESE FUCKED UP OBEROIS 👭🏽👭🏽👭🏽
wow, gauri’s already in oberoi mansion and sneaking around!???
whaaaaaaaaat, how does abhay even know gauri????
oh no, what fakeass chitthi is this now??? 😟😟😟
ABHAY THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM MAN, YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW GAURI OR ANIKA, THEY’RE NOT OBEROIS, WHY ARE YOU EVEN INVOLVING THEM IN THIS 😡😡😡😡
godddddddddd fuck you abhay.
why is bhavya still in oberoi mansion???
ugh we’re back to this fuckery.
they need to make up their mind with what direction they’re going with rudra’s character. either he’s mature revenge monster, or cute baby obro. he can’t be BOTH. it’s giving me whiplash from how multiple-identity he’s coming off as.
ugh nonsense ruvya romance. fwdinggggggggggggg.
oh gauriiiii. my babyyyyy. *holds her forever*
abhay you should fuck right off to whatever fucking hellhole you crawled out of.
oh wow, he’s taking my advice. good. bye bye you hottttt demon. 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽
wifey maaaaaaaaad about lack of i love you.
hubs has managed to make chand bracelet more YELLOW. got it dipped in 24k gold?
damn, shivaay does really look suuuuuuuuper related to abhay in this scene. more than he does to omRu!
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