#mythologists

[j-august]

Trevize smiled. "I'm getting a glimpse of how you mythologists work, Janov. You build a beautiful superstructure, but it may be standing on air."

Isaac Asimov, Foundation and Earth

[maidenvault]

I'm convinced the writers were so caught up in the symbolic storytelling they were doing with CX-2 that they didn't really think about the ways that portraying him as the dark reflection of one of the Batch would seem to telegraph that it's Tech, who's always been kind of a foil for Crosshair as well.

For instance, the choice to show or not show a character's face is often very meaningful in this show - Crosshair wears his helmet most of the time as an Imperial, while Cody takes his off when he's trying to get Governor Ames to listen to and trust him. So I understand the choice to never show the faces of the particular CX clones who represent what the Batch would be if they were nothing but soldiers and totally stripped of their humanity. But because we did see the faces of other CX clones and they were just clones, of course it made it seem like they were hiding something.

It's just crazy because I talked about the CX clones as "shadow selves" after that two-parter, obviously a lot of us partly caught onto this, but I never thought that'd be all these guys are. Marie-Claire Gould always does great analysis of the symbolism in TBB on the What the Force podcast, and when she discussed those episodes she went a lot deeper into this idea and kind of blew my mind pointing out the ways CX-2 is meaningfully paralleled with Crosshair even though the similarities to Tech are there, too. I just never expected we'd literally see the Batch fight four of them clearly designed to look like evil versions of themselves. I'm not sure how coherently the Batch facing the CX clones at the end really contributes to their characterization this season and it feels like a lot to unpack when it was just...not what we were expecting.

[many-gay-magpies]

finished reading the odyssey for my greek mythology class. yall were not lying odysseus and penelope are kind of goals

[monkberries]

Has any of the original research she mentioned traveling to Europe for come up yet? Coming into the podcast I thought there might be some new information but then she mentioned she was a predctive mythologst and I thought hmm. By the time she got to her thesis the whole thing became too much for me

not really, we're still in the self-justification phase of the thing i feel. though i found this paragraph interesting in her research methodology rabbit hole:

"For example, there’s a quote in the next episode from Fifty Years Adrift, a book co-authored by Derek Taylor and George Harrison. That book is publicly available in that it’s a published book. But it’s out of print and used copies of it cost upwards of $2000, and that’s not in my research budget. But if you’re willing to, as I did, get on a plane and travel to London and apply for a Reader’s Pass at the British Library and request the book from their rare book collection and put on a pair of white gloves and sit at a table in the Rare Book Room while stern British librarians frown at you to make sure you’re not getting peanut butter all over the pages, and take handwritten notes because each photo of each page requires individual permission from those stern librarians, then you, too, can access that book."

First of all, she lives in Maine; you can access Fifty Years Adrift at the Olin Library at Wesleyan University in fucking Connecticut. If for whatever reason you only want it through public library access, they have it at the New York Public Library. This took exactly two seconds to search on worldcat. Second, you almost never use white gloves when touching rare books because it decreases your dexterity and increases the likelihood of damaging the book. Third, librarians don't have time to sit on the clock and watch you to make sure you're not getting peanut butter on the pages; they outright ban food in their reading rooms already. So like. idk, DID she do this research? Questionable, so far! And if so, what on earth was she accessing? Who knows! Guess we'll find out!

[thisbelongsto-nohbodys]

[Teen!Hilda is at the kitchen table complaining about a career survey paper from school while Johanna and Kaisa have tea.]

Teen!Hilda: I just don’t see how they expect us to know what we want to do for the rest of our lives, isn’t that the point of living? Besides I couldn’t see myself with a boring desk job or something, that’s no life for an adventurer.

Kaisa: You could become a mythologist.

Johanna & Hilda: A what?

Kaisa: Mythologists study and record myths and folklore and legends from all over the world and compile it into books for future generations to read and learn from the past.

Hilda: So I can still adventure and get paid to do it…legally?! I wouldn’t get in trouble?!

Kaisa: Yep. You’d have to write a few books and dissertations tho’.

Hilda: I can do that if it means freedom. It’d kinda be weird to see one of my books at your library though I’d imagine, huh?

Kaisa: Not at all. In fact I look forward to the day when a customer comes in and is all “excuse me but do you have a book on mythology” and I can say “Why yes, many but may I recommend this one. It was written by my step-daughter.” “Oh, that’s impressive, I bet your proud of her” “Yes, very proud to be blessed with the best step-daughter in the world”. Y’know, typical librarian things.

Hilda: That’s very sweet Kaisa but… please don’t say that was you proposing to mum in a roundabout way.

Kaisa after realizing what she’d said: What??! No, I mean, ummmm, uhhhhh ///////

Johanna: It’s okay dear, don’t worry. You can have another chance to properly propose at a better moment. That is if I don’t propose first *wink*

Kaisa heavily blushing: T-thank you……I love you.

Hilda getting up from her chair: Well I’m going to go see what I need to do to become a mythologist. So I’ll leave you two to make your proposal plans or whatever.

[Hilda dashes out leaving a blushing Johanna and Kaisa who can’t look at at each other from embarrassment]

[dingodad]

If you had to name your school of analysis on homestuck, what would you name it? For example, contrasting your analysis versus a Classpectis. What would we refer to yours as?

i have humorously referred to myself as mmmmaloesque before. i don't know if that name is super descriptive of my approach but manifestation theory i think is still pretty foundational to the way i approach the text even if i'm not a devout.

i don't want to call classpecters 'literalists' and myself a 'figurativist' because it's a little meanspirited to insinuate classpecters don't understand symbolism. their way of thinking about symbolism is just a lot more rigid than mine is. now that i think of it i guess a name kind of already exists for my way of looking at homestuck in "hyperflexible mythology"? a 'hyperflexibile mythologist' in the sense that I see homestuck's symbols as hyperflexible but also in the sense that my work revolves around treating homestuck's storytelling as 'mythological' rather than 'real'

[mercurialskiies]

i also want to share more OG content, but idk if that means rebranding my tumblr or making a new one all together

a new one is just a hassle, though, but i fear people forgetting who i am if i rebrand the tumblr 🤔

writing hard

yes that includes the marketing and the outreach bc what the heck

[nicholasandriani]

Japanese Myths in Dungeons & Dragons

D&D is if anything a playground for brewing cocktails of legendary stories. Stories steeped in a broth of human experiences that penetrate the greater depths of our psyches. I don’t know about you, but that’s half the incentive — to try on new ways of being, seeing, and moving through the world. I’ve long had an interest in researching the East Asian aspects of D&D and took a moment during…

[themuseumofwitchcraftandpaganism]

Paganism in music - Greek Mythologist

Greek Mythologist is an American band, led by Jeff Ilgenfritz (he/him). He plays in the folk genre. Their YouTube bio explains why they focus on the Greek Gods:

"Ilgenfritz felt compelled to tell the stories of the gods and goddesses as a means to honor the Greek pagans who didn't kowtow to homogeneous world religions."

Kowtow- to act in a totally subservient manner

Homogeneous- of the same or a similar kind or nature

[finelythreadedsky]

i still havent forgiven my public school education for making us sit through a joseph campbell hero with a thousand faces powerpoint presentation in english class at least once every two years

[mythgirlimagines]

ultimate mythologist Mondo Owada?

my brain is so fried as i'm writing this. not even bc of this and working on reqs but bc i have very long days now and it's almost a friday

Mythology was the single most interesting topic Mondo had ever encountered. As a child, he ate up mythology books of all different cultures like it was the easiest thing in the world.

He took great care to document all of the variations of myths he’d read about, and where each one was written down, in order to try tracing where the variations came from.

Especially for literature classes, he was the one to go to. There were a lot of different mythological allusions, especially to Greek and Roman mythology, in classic literature.

Even newer literature used those allusions, whether the author knew them or not. And he was able to identify allusions to other cultures’ mythologies as well.

He was kind of a nerd when it came to mythology, but he was confident and cool enough that he never cared if that was how people saw him. He was a bit intimidating, too, so that kind of helped.

[pixie-skull]

Thank you for fellow Unicorn mythology fan!

[maxknightley]

shit, sorry, I'll delete that post right away. I didn't know he was a mythologist at all, let alone that he was infamous for positing a "universal" narrative structure that reduces a variety of works and storytelling traditions to variations on a single Jungian theme regardless of whether their actual contents line up with his thesis. I only knew about his work with Canned Soups.

[many-gay-magpies]

okay question for the mythology people. is there a single good film or tv adaptation of the iliad out there

[theeditorandnarratorcollaborate]

BookTuber Tuesday - Mythweaving today with Sophie Strand

[kaijynx]

this honestly kinda reminds me of a oc I have,,, he's not a mythologit, but they are a cryptozoologist, don't think he would use this, tho

MYTHOLOGIST OCCUDEN．   ➷

pt: mythologist occuden(link). end pt.

DEFINITION ⠀✦⠀ a flag for when one is a mythologist occuden.

pt: definition, a flag for when one is a mythologist occuden(link). end pt.

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