me, before realizing what was going on and starting the diagnosis process: goddammit! I got distracted again. what's wrong with me!! and why I'm not understanding shit?! the argument is simple. why is everything confusing?
me, after the realization: adhd, behave! we need to hear this. I know this dude is boring, the argument is boring, but we need to make an effort. autism... I know, I know. they're confusing and not following a logical narrative pattern. we'll ask ALL the questions after.
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I really am not sure if the Duffers are planning on making Byler canon right now. I've seen their Master Class lessons and they explicitly state that Mike's arc is about 'falling in love with El and concluding his arc'. Makes me think they really use Mike as a 'nerd fantasy self-insert' character, after all: The nerdy guy finds this special girl with superpowers and ends up with her aka the old 'sexy born yesterday' trope. I would like to think that's not the case and they'll conclude this Mike/El/Will dynamic in a better way but seeing their Master Class... I really do think Mike's character is just about that self-insert trope after all and the Duffers play into it.
Now it changes my perspective quite a bit because not only do we have a self-insert trope but they've also been planning Will to be gay and in love with Mike since S1... which plays right into the ''sad gay guy in love with his straight best friend'' trope. I used to like ST for not falling into tropes like this and hoped that they would actually do something better with them, but maybe we're just giving the Duffers too much credit after all.
I guess you can tag this as ''byler doubt'' but I really would want to hear your opinion on this.
NGL, I don't really pay attention to outside material, lmao. I don't care about what the Duffers say. I care about their show, like, what's actually in it. Since just because the Duffers are saying one thing doesn't mean that's what they're straightforwardly showing in the material. And if they think that to be the case, then they really are fools and don't know what they're writing at all :p it's still a point toward my favor since it just means I understand their narratives better than they do.
Most of my analysis is based on what the series' text has given us. And what it has given us is that Mike and El are at conflicting points in their narratives. Mike is at "superhero El" while El's S4 narrative is explicitly about not being that. And in S4, El did not say "I love you" back. Mike tells her ILY like nine times and neither she nor the show acknowledges that she was actually happy about it. Does she ever smile after hearing him say this? Does she even win against Henry? The burning Hawkins says no.
So, let's say that MiIeven is indeed the endgame ship with everything else still true. What could Mike do to get El to say she loves him back? Or what could El do to believe his ILY? El's narrative would have to disregard everything she has ever worked for learning about herself -- that she is a friend, she is a daughter, she is a sister, she is loved for something that isn't reliant on what she can do for others -- if the show is content with her staying with Mike "I'm in love with my superhero girlfriend who can fly and move mountains" Wheeler. The show would have to rescind basically everything they built her narrative to be.
If Mike has to prove himself again in S5 to earn El's ILY, he has to prove to El that he doesn't just see her as a superhero. Big ask considering that's what his entire arc in S4 was about. Big ask considering the final season is El needing -- not wanting -- to save the world again. The narrative has virtually prevented Mike from seeing her as anything but a superhero.
So now it's back to El again. So should we expect S5 El to learn that actually, being a superhero is great! Being taken away from her mom, being abused and experimented on in a lab for years so she could fight the commies and supernatural baddies that the lab itself actually inadvertently created was GOOD actually! because it means she became a superhero? just for Mike?
Like, at this point in the story, it's actually HARDER to commit to MiIeven as a natural conclusion of both their arcs than it is to make Byler endgame. El's narrative doesn't have to change if Byler is endgame. The audience knows Will is in love with Mike; the audience knows Mike loves Will (whether as a best friend or something else entirely). The only thing the show needs to do is to get Mike to understand his love has a romantic component. Like he doesn't have to change the way he perceives Will as a person at all the way he does for El, and Will literally has to do nothing. He's said his piece.
Sorry this has become So Long lmao. It was actually something I wanted to write about somewhat so thank you for the opportunity! and the ask ^o^
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the thing about tailored ada. ads* for me is i don't think ive ever had an ad successfully tailored for me. not like "oh ive never been swayed by advertisements 😁" but ive never had ads that are like. relevant to things i want or need. and it's quite scary to see when people used to be like I was discussing buying a Dehumidifier with my Mother and then I got nonstop ads for Dehumidifiers! like that's scary. For you.
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life would be a lot harder if there was the constant threat of giant eagles carrying us away
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I always think it’s funny that almost every couple in a photo I see of gay men from the 80’s and 90’s has at least one mustached dude. Like, I don’t know if it was popular among queer men or just men period durning that time, but it’s the one style I always identify with gay men.
Me, seeing a man with a thick mustache in his 30s: Getting a lot of ‘gay dad’ vibes here.
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Blush, Heartbeat and smile please.
Blush : What do you do when you have a crush on someone?
I hang around them a lot. I listen attentively (though not always obviously). I do get a bit chattier, but the emphasis is the listening (and "a bit chattier" is very relative 😅- mostly). More comfortable making eye contact (though again, that's very relative).
Heartbeat : What fictional character do you love?
I mean, look, I love all the Trek characters, even the ones I don't like that much. 😂
Smile : What do you find attractive?
I do usually try to give a different answer or elaborate when I've gotten the same prompt previously... but I've got nothing this time.
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Ritual ended in a 911 call. Goodnight.
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